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    Detroit at Chicago (10/22/2012)

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    Posted: Oct. 16, 2012 - 1:54 AM ET #1

    Away:  Detroit [1-4 ATS]
    Home:  Chicago [4-1 ATS]

    Game Time: 8:30 PM
    Stadium: Soldier Field

    Recent Meetings:
    N/A

    Team Leaders:

    Detroit:
    Passing: Matthew Stafford (1493)
    Rushing: Mikel Leshoure (196)
    Receiving: Calvin Johnson (558)

    Chicago:
    Passing: Jay Cutler (1209)
    Rushing: Matt Forte (270)
    Receiving: Brandon Marshall (496)

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    Away:  Detroit [1-4 ATS]
    Home:  Chicago [4-1 ATS]

    Game Time: 8:30 PM
    Stadium: Soldier Field

    Recent Meetings:
    N/A

    Team Leaders:

    Detroit:
    Passing: Matthew Stafford (1493)
    Rushing: Mikel Leshoure (196)
    Receiving: Calvin Johnson (558)

    Chicago:
    Passing: Jay Cutler (1209)
    Rushing: Matt Forte (270)
    Receiving: Brandon Marshall (496)

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    Posted: Oct. 16, 2012 - 11:22 AM ET #2

    The -5 is a gift. Take it now before it goes up.
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    The -5 is a gift. Take it now before it goes up.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 16, 2012 - 7:57 PM ET #3

    I think this depends on which QBs show up.  Good Stafford vs Good Cutler could be a close game.  But if one or both of the bizarro versions of those guys show up it is going to be a wipe out.  This game is untouchable!
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    I think this depends on which QBs show up.  Good Stafford vs Good Cutler could be a close game.  But if one or both of the bizarro versions of those guys show up it is going to be a wipe out.  This game is untouchable!
     
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    Posted: Oct. 16, 2012 - 11:03 PM ET #4

    I like Chicago here. I think Chicago will be able to score on Detroit and Detroit will have a harder time scoring against Chicago. Chicago has a nice defense. 

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    I like Chicago here. I think Chicago will be able to score on Detroit and Detroit will have a harder time scoring against Chicago. Chicago has a nice defense. 

     
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    Posted: Oct. 17, 2012 - 1:04 AM ET #5

    I've been riding the chicago wave and I have friends that are die hards for the bears.  With all the chicago vibes I've been surrounded with, it's obvious that Cutler is in a groove and the bears are firing on all pistons.  There is no lions D and the Bears D will shut down the air.  The only questionable players will be Forte who had the tender ankle(Bears are coming off a bye week though) and Hester who hasn't been able to wow the crowd on special teams(his recieving has shined though and his special teams play hasn't been needed).  Bears and over is a solid parlay to pound, in my opinion...
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    I've been riding the chicago wave and I have friends that are die hards for the bears.  With all the chicago vibes I've been surrounded with, it's obvious that Cutler is in a groove and the bears are firing on all pistons.  There is no lions D and the Bears D will shut down the air.  The only questionable players will be Forte who had the tender ankle(Bears are coming off a bye week though) and Hester who hasn't been able to wow the crowd on special teams(his recieving has shined though and his special teams play hasn't been needed).  Bears and over is a solid parlay to pound, in my opinion...
     
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    Posted: Oct. 17, 2012 - 4:52 AM ET #6

    Early lean on the Lions
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    Early lean on the Lions
     
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    Posted: Oct. 17, 2012 - 6:19 AM ET #7

    Bears. Hester breaks one finally on special teams. Heard it here first
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    Bears. Hester breaks one finally on special teams. Heard it here first
     
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    Posted: Oct. 17, 2012 - 2:36 PM ET #8

    This is a very interesting matchup.  Believe it or not, these two teams are somewhat mirror images of each other when you break down their passing games.  Gunslinger mentality quarterbacks in Stafford and Cutler, and they will force it to their big play wideouts: Calvin Johnson and Brandon Marshall, irrespective of double and even triple teams.  In my opinion, thats probably what's preventing these quarterbacks from taking the next "leap" in their career into becoming elite quarterbacks.  An elite quarterback spreads the ball around and keeps opponents guessing (i.e Rodgers, Brady, and the Manning brothers).

    Now for my analysis...The last time these teams played, the Bears were home and sporting a 5-3 record, while Detroit was 6-2, but they were all looking up to the undefeated Green Bay Packers (my,my,my how things have changed).  In that game, which was a 37-13 blowout by the Bears, Matt Stafford had one of the worst games of his career, throwing 2 pick-6's and throwing another 2 INTS on top of that (4 INTs total).  The Lions also unexplainably punted the ball to Devin Hester who returned it for an 82 yard TD. 

    The Bears are coming back from a bye week in which they have no doubt, enjoyed themselves after winning 3 consecutive games (home vs St Louis, @ Dallas, and @ Jacksonville).  The Bears won these games by an average of 24 points each!!  I guess it helps when your defense has 9 interceptions over that time period and returns 5 of them for touchdowns!!  I don't think I have ever seen a team have 5 pick-6's over the course of 3 weeks.  I feel bad for the oddsmakers that have to make a line for this one. You have to make the Bears a substantial favorite based on their performance the last 3 weeks prior to their bye.  

    Here's the way I see it...The Bears couldn't have asked for a bye week at a worse time.  I think this is a classic example of a bad bye week (if there is such a thing).  The team is healthy, playing their best possible football, firing on all cylinders, and then they have to take the "cooler" week off. 

    Meanwhile, Detroit came off the bye last week after losing 3 straight, and finally put together a solid game against the Eagles.  That is a classic example of a good bye week.  Not to mention, they also got a little healthier by getting Louis Delmas back.  Who would've thought that the Detroit defense would go into Philly and actually put together a solid performance.  Delmas came through with a key interception, and they held L. Mccoy to 22 yards rushing on 14 carries!  Yes, they did have one blown coverage assignment allowing Maclin to have a 70-yard TD, but their defense was really impressive with the exception of that one miscue.   

    I think Stafford will learn from his mistakes he made against the Tampa 2 last time he was in the windy city, and I think the Lions will continue their momentum from last week.  While the Bears, on the other hand, will be just getting back to game speed after their mandatory week off.  Also worth noting, the Bears have not had one close game this year (a game decided by 1 score or less). 

    wk1: win vs IND 41-21, wk 2: lost at GB 10-23, wk 3: win vs STL 23-6, wk 4: win at DAL 34-16, wk 5; win at JAX 41-3.  

    Meanwhile, the Detroit Lions have won or lost every game this year by one score or less (isn't that ironic). 

    My final conclusion is that the Bears will have their first really competitive game this year.  I don't want to call the Bear's previous wins luck, because they are an experienced, fundamentally sound team.  I just think the momentum from Detroit's road win at Philly will carry over to Soldier field on Monday night (not to mention a win here could get the Lions back to .500).

    My final prediction: Lions win 23-21 on a last minute Jason Hansen field goal. 

    good luck everyone

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    This is a very interesting matchup.  Believe it or not, these two teams are somewhat mirror images of each other when you break down their passing games.  Gunslinger mentality quarterbacks in Stafford and Cutler, and they will force it to their big play wideouts: Calvin Johnson and Brandon Marshall, irrespective of double and even triple teams.  In my opinion, thats probably what's preventing these quarterbacks from taking the next "leap" in their career into becoming elite quarterbacks.  An elite quarterback spreads the ball around and keeps opponents guessing (i.e Rodgers, Brady, and the Manning brothers).

    Now for my analysis...The last time these teams played, the Bears were home and sporting a 5-3 record, while Detroit was 6-2, but they were all looking up to the undefeated Green Bay Packers (my,my,my how things have changed).  In that game, which was a 37-13 blowout by the Bears, Matt Stafford had one of the worst games of his career, throwing 2 pick-6's and throwing another 2 INTS on top of that (4 INTs total).  The Lions also unexplainably punted the ball to Devin Hester who returned it for an 82 yard TD. 

    The Bears are coming back from a bye week in which they have no doubt, enjoyed themselves after winning 3 consecutive games (home vs St Louis, @ Dallas, and @ Jacksonville).  The Bears won these games by an average of 24 points each!!  I guess it helps when your defense has 9 interceptions over that time period and returns 5 of them for touchdowns!!  I don't think I have ever seen a team have 5 pick-6's over the course of 3 weeks.  I feel bad for the oddsmakers that have to make a line for this one. You have to make the Bears a substantial favorite based on their performance the last 3 weeks prior to their bye.  

    Here's the way I see it...The Bears couldn't have asked for a bye week at a worse time.  I think this is a classic example of a bad bye week (if there is such a thing).  The team is healthy, playing their best possible football, firing on all cylinders, and then they have to take the "cooler" week off. 

    Meanwhile, Detroit came off the bye last week after losing 3 straight, and finally put together a solid game against the Eagles.  That is a classic example of a good bye week.  Not to mention, they also got a little healthier by getting Louis Delmas back.  Who would've thought that the Detroit defense would go into Philly and actually put together a solid performance.  Delmas came through with a key interception, and they held L. Mccoy to 22 yards rushing on 14 carries!  Yes, they did have one blown coverage assignment allowing Maclin to have a 70-yard TD, but their defense was really impressive with the exception of that one miscue.   

    I think Stafford will learn from his mistakes he made against the Tampa 2 last time he was in the windy city, and I think the Lions will continue their momentum from last week.  While the Bears, on the other hand, will be just getting back to game speed after their mandatory week off.  Also worth noting, the Bears have not had one close game this year (a game decided by 1 score or less). 

    wk1: win vs IND 41-21, wk 2: lost at GB 10-23, wk 3: win vs STL 23-6, wk 4: win at DAL 34-16, wk 5; win at JAX 41-3.  

    Meanwhile, the Detroit Lions have won or lost every game this year by one score or less (isn't that ironic). 

    My final conclusion is that the Bears will have their first really competitive game this year.  I don't want to call the Bear's previous wins luck, because they are an experienced, fundamentally sound team.  I just think the momentum from Detroit's road win at Philly will carry over to Soldier field on Monday night (not to mention a win here could get the Lions back to .500).

    My final prediction: Lions win 23-21 on a last minute Jason Hansen field goal. 

    good luck everyone

     
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    Posted: Oct. 17, 2012 - 6:26 PM ET #9

       Lions are about to get crushed this time!

    CHICAGO - 6

     

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       Lions are about to get crushed this time!

    CHICAGO - 6

     

     
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    Posted: Oct. 18, 2012 - 11:16 AM ET #10

    When Bears lead @ half-time = under Lovie they're 51-10.
    When Bears up in 4th Quarter 86% winner (Defense gets turnovers),
     and Det always down by 4th Quarter (because Det has always had a bad 2ndary).
    Bears play well against Det at home
    Bears overplay and ham it up on MNF
    Det will kick it to Hester then have to wear it
    Worry is Webb can lose the game Vs. Fairly &/or Suh
    ...certain packages Bears bring in 2 linemen (if Marshall - Cutler clicking)
    Bears cover



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    When Bears lead @ half-time = under Lovie they're 51-10.
    When Bears up in 4th Quarter 86% winner (Defense gets turnovers),
     and Det always down by 4th Quarter (because Det has always had a bad 2ndary).
    Bears play well against Det at home
    Bears overplay and ham it up on MNF
    Det will kick it to Hester then have to wear it
    Worry is Webb can lose the game Vs. Fairly &/or Suh
    ...certain packages Bears bring in 2 linemen (if Marshall - Cutler clicking)
    Bears cover



     
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    Posted: Oct. 18, 2012 - 11:41 AM ET #11

    I'll just go with law of averages...Detroit has to put a beat on someone soon..this looks like the week to do so.I'll take any points over 3 all day long with this game.
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    I'll just go with law of averages...Detroit has to put a beat on someone soon..this looks like the week to do so.I'll take any points over 3 all day long with this game.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 20, 2012 - 6:18 PM ET #12

    I dont like it that two of Chicagos reciever core  are out and questionable.  JEffreys out and Hester questionable with a quad injury.


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    I dont like it that two of Chicagos reciever core  are out and questionable.  JEffreys out and Hester questionable with a quad injury.


     
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    Posted: Oct. 20, 2012 - 7:32 PM ET #13

    Chicago

    YTD: 28-21-1 (57.14%)

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    Chicago

    YTD: 28-21-1 (57.14%)

     
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    Hmmm...my very first post on Covers!!! I am a die-hard Bears fan and season ticket holder as well. It's hard for me not to look at Bears games and see a blowout everytime, but I need to then pinch myself and come back to reality...hahaha!!! However, I do think this is going to be the sort of "coming out" game for Cutler and the high octane offense this year, that so many of us expected. I know some of you probably think I am nuts, because Alshon is out, but I really think Earl Bennett is going to put up some decent numbers Monday night as well as Hester. Marshall will of course get his fair share of balls as well, probably around the 15 catches and 2 TD mark. I think between Forte and Bush, the ground game will be firing on all cylinders too. Now for my first prediction on this site...boy do I hope it's good...lol. 

    DA BEARS!!!

    34 - 27
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    Hmmm...my very first post on Covers!!! I am a die-hard Bears fan and season ticket holder as well. It's hard for me not to look at Bears games and see a blowout everytime, but I need to then pinch myself and come back to reality...hahaha!!! However, I do think this is going to be the sort of "coming out" game for Cutler and the high octane offense this year, that so many of us expected. I know some of you probably think I am nuts, because Alshon is out, but I really think Earl Bennett is going to put up some decent numbers Monday night as well as Hester. Marshall will of course get his fair share of balls as well, probably around the 15 catches and 2 TD mark. I think between Forte and Bush, the ground game will be firing on all cylinders too. Now for my first prediction on this site...boy do I hope it's good...lol. 

    DA BEARS!!!

    34 - 27
     
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    Posted: Oct. 21, 2012 - 12:27 AM ET #15

    Chi 4-1 ATS, Det 1-4 ATS ... Ironic that Chicago is playing Monday during the debate. Chi-1st half, Det-Game
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    Chi 4-1 ATS, Det 1-4 ATS ... Ironic that Chicago is playing Monday during the debate. Chi-1st half, Det-Game
     
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    Posted: Oct. 21, 2012 - 9:34 AM ET #16

    Bears need to shut down down just 1 dangerous guy,and thats "MEGATRON". this guy is a game breaker indeed.

    Always tough to pick teams coming off a bye but,i like the home dog here to cover-6.5

    daaaaaaa bearz
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    Bears need to shut down down just 1 dangerous guy,and thats "MEGATRON". this guy is a game breaker indeed.

    Always tough to pick teams coming off a bye but,i like the home dog here to cover-6.5

    daaaaaaa bearz
     
    lookingtowin
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    Posted: Oct. 21, 2012 - 9:35 AM ET #17

    First of all i am writing this as a true homer Lions fan.   The Lions went into Philly last week not much more of a pleasant place to play than playing in Chicago with their season totally on the line lose that game you are 1-4 and just about out of any chance to win the division.  Once again this week they can continue to save their season with a win lose and once again its about over.  This will be a knockem down drag em out game.  The Lions will at least cover the -6.5 with a huge chance of winning this game.  They didn't go into Philly and win a tough one last week to come to Chicago in a huge divisional game to lay an egg.  So  i am going with the Lions +6.5 and Lions M/L.  GLA
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    First of all i am writing this as a true homer Lions fan.   The Lions went into Philly last week not much more of a pleasant place to play than playing in Chicago with their season totally on the line lose that game you are 1-4 and just about out of any chance to win the division.  Once again this week they can continue to save their season with a win lose and once again its about over.  This will be a knockem down drag em out game.  The Lions will at least cover the -6.5 with a huge chance of winning this game.  They didn't go into Philly and win a tough one last week to come to Chicago in a huge divisional game to lay an egg.  So  i am going with the Lions +6.5 and Lions M/L.  GLA
     
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    Posted: Oct. 21, 2012 - 11:51 AM ET #18

    The Bears are for real - while the Lions are not. As long as Cutler doesn't have a hissy fit on the sidelines and then throw a bunch into triple coverage, this game won't even be close.......

    Bears -6

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    The Bears are for real - while the Lions are not. As long as Cutler doesn't have a hissy fit on the sidelines and then throw a bunch into triple coverage, this game won't even be close.......

    Bears -6

     
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    Posted: Oct. 21, 2012 - 3:55 PM ET #19

    detroit  23

     

    bearscubs 231

     

     

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    detroit  23

     

    bearscubs 231

     

     

     
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    Posted: Oct. 21, 2012 - 3:57 PM ET #20

    Quote Originally Posted by jo14014:

    detroit  23

     

    bearscubs 231>>>>>>>>>>>><<<<<<<<<<<<<<21pts.

     

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by jo14014:

    detroit  23

     

    bearscubs 231>>>>>>>>>>>><<<<<<<<<<<<<<21pts.

     

     

     
    rarafromphilly
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    Posted: Oct. 21, 2012 - 8:21 PM ET #21

    imma try lions+3.5+122@heritage.
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    imma try lions+3.5+122@heritage.
     
    DraMMA
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    Posted: Oct. 21, 2012 - 9:23 PM ET #22

    Lions D gonna get after Cutler! Lions +6.5
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    Lions D gonna get after Cutler! Lions +6.5
     
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    Posted: Oct. 21, 2012 - 9:39 PM ET #23

    Bought the line up to +7.5 I don't see Detroit losing by more then -7 on Monday night GL 
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    Bought the line up to +7.5 I don't see Detroit losing by more then -7 on Monday night GL 
     
    SIMADMAN
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    Posted: Oct. 22, 2012 - 12:14 AM ET #24

    Bears own Detroit especially in Chicago & Lovie has a great record on Monday night. Only thing going for Detroit is they need this game really bad. However, teams off the bye week the last 2 weeks are 6-1 soon to be 7-1.

    Bears 37-Dwtroit 27.

    Bears & Over gl all!!!

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    Bears own Detroit especially in Chicago & Lovie has a great record on Monday night. Only thing going for Detroit is they need this game really bad. However, teams off the bye week the last 2 weeks are 6-1 soon to be 7-1.

    Bears 37-Dwtroit 27.

    Bears & Over gl all!!!

     
     
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    Posted: Oct. 22, 2012 - 12:41 AM ET #25

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