DEN will win, nobody takes them seriously, the public is pounding the PATs; Denver's head coach was the offensive Coord. for NE, Denver has the momentum, Vegas would love more bets on the PAts, while NE may be the better team i like the Broncos in this spot.
sooo you're saying the Pats are the more talented team, and we all know that no team in the league prepares like Belichik and the Pats especially against McDaniels and the Broncos, so what kind of drugs are you smoking to say you like the Broncos in this spot?
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Quote Originally Posted by ewillie169:
DEN will win, nobody takes them seriously, the public is pounding the PATs; Denver's head coach was the offensive Coord. for NE, Denver has the momentum, Vegas would love more bets on the PAts, while NE may be the better team i like the Broncos in this spot.
sooo you're saying the Pats are the more talented team, and we all know that no team in the league prepares like Belichik and the Pats especially against McDaniels and the Broncos, so what kind of drugs are you smoking to say you like the Broncos in this spot?
.... NE D has been nothing short of impressive and the O is starting to click.
Can I ask where you guys get your offense and defense rankings? I usually look at CBSSports.com but the data I'm looking at, maybe I'm interpreting incorrectly?
There, I'm reading it to show the Pats as ranked 29th against the Pass, 28th against the Rush and 29th Total. Is this incorrect?
If that info is correct, that actually would be quite a bit short of impressive, don'tcha think?
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Quote Originally Posted by KeyserSoze23:
.... NE D has been nothing short of impressive and the O is starting to click.
Can I ask where you guys get your offense and defense rankings? I usually look at CBSSports.com but the data I'm looking at, maybe I'm interpreting incorrectly?
There, I'm reading it to show the Pats as ranked 29th against the Pass, 28th against the Rush and 29th Total. Is this incorrect?
If that info is correct, that actually would be quite a bit short of impressive, don'tcha think?
oh and guys zoro picked washington against caroline and he picked st louis against the viks and picked denver against the pats looooooooool this guy wants to burn his money
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oh and guys zoro picked washington against caroline and he picked st louis against the viks and picked denver against the pats looooooooool this guy wants to burn his money
At first I was thinking NE, then I realized Denver has played 2 good teams and 2 bad teams. Dallas isnt as bad as everyone makes them out to be and Cinci is returning to old form again but Denver would have lost at least one game by now if they were so bad.
This game will definetely be won by coaching, and while many people believe that Belichick is the better coach, they are right. However, in this particular game Josh McDaniels knows all of the Pats offensive problems and he will look to exploit them with his unpenetrable defense. He also knows exactly what the offense likes to do and knows exactly what players are capable of what.
The Pats have had problems against bad Denver teams from before, going 2-5 ATS the last 7 meetings. If they couldnt cover against those teams they will definetely have a lot of trouble with this much improved Broncos team.
17-10 Broncos, Im playing Denver and the Under
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At first I was thinking NE, then I realized Denver has played 2 good teams and 2 bad teams. Dallas isnt as bad as everyone makes them out to be and Cinci is returning to old form again but Denver would have lost at least one game by now if they were so bad.
This game will definetely be won by coaching, and while many people believe that Belichick is the better coach, they are right. However, in this particular game Josh McDaniels knows all of the Pats offensive problems and he will look to exploit them with his unpenetrable defense. He also knows exactly what the offense likes to do and knows exactly what players are capable of what.
The Pats have had problems against bad Denver teams from before, going 2-5 ATS the last 7 meetings. If they couldnt cover against those teams they will definetely have a lot of trouble with this much improved Broncos team.
as i recall the last time these teams met it was in denver and brady was out for the season... guess what the score was 42-7 for new england lol this pick is too easy the champs are back.. so what if denver are not beaten.. they should have never made it with cinci. they got the luckiest touchdown in the world and cinci did not have time to recover
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as i recall the last time these teams met it was in denver and brady was out for the season... guess what the score was 42-7 for new england lol this pick is too easy the champs are back.. so what if denver are not beaten.. they should have never made it with cinci. they got the luckiest touchdown in the world and cinci did not have time to recover
I am all over NE here. Denver should not have beat the Cowboys or the Bengals. Dallas didn't exploit the middle of Denvers defense once last week this is a big advantage for Welker. Champ can cover but Moss is a different animal than Hurd from Dallas... I'll take the Pats, Good Luck
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I am all over NE here. Denver should not have beat the Cowboys or the Bengals. Dallas didn't exploit the middle of Denvers defense once last week this is a big advantage for Welker. Champ can cover but Moss is a different animal than Hurd from Dallas... I'll take the Pats, Good Luck
I am feeling under. Both coaches know the others play book in a sense, so the Ds on both sides should be able to hold the other offense in check. Denver has a pretty decent pass D so NE isn't going to start throwing unless their run game is shut down or they are behind by a TD or more (unlikely). NE LBs don't look all that great so Moreno should be able to gain some yards to eat clock. Den isn't going to try to win this game with Ortons arm unless they have to.
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Quote Originally Posted by dude1618:
not too much under love here huh?
I am feeling under. Both coaches know the others play book in a sense, so the Ds on both sides should be able to hold the other offense in check. Denver has a pretty decent pass D so NE isn't going to start throwing unless their run game is shut down or they are behind by a TD or more (unlikely). NE LBs don't look all that great so Moreno should be able to gain some yards to eat clock. Den isn't going to try to win this game with Ortons arm unless they have to.
colts and pats. take whatever the line is. should be colts -4 pats -4
oh yeah pats can play in snow too
ok, lets not try to give out false information. it was snowing friday night but stop saturday morning and will stay cold but no snow throughout sunday mostlike. i know b/c i lived here. lets be honest, no one expect denver to be undefeated til now. its funny that every week i hear people say that denver is going to lose, they beaten no body, they are a fake, etc. after they win the game, people bashed how bad their opponent played but not how good the denver is as a team. all in all, denver exceeded my expectation this year but i think N.E will be too much for them. NE -3 would be my pick.
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Quote Originally Posted by king1234:
it is snowing.
2 for sure games this week
colts and pats. take whatever the line is. should be colts -4 pats -4
oh yeah pats can play in snow too
ok, lets not try to give out false information. it was snowing friday night but stop saturday morning and will stay cold but no snow throughout sunday mostlike. i know b/c i lived here. lets be honest, no one expect denver to be undefeated til now. its funny that every week i hear people say that denver is going to lose, they beaten no body, they are a fake, etc. after they win the game, people bashed how bad their opponent played but not how good the denver is as a team. all in all, denver exceeded my expectation this year but i think N.E will be too much for them. NE -3 would be my pick.
Towing the same line Mon-E, however see more points on the board...Rag dolls are searching for their prickly bunny..However one must not forget the debacle caused by their now new-model player Marsh-all and nor must one forgett the many muppets that carrier pigeoned those thoughts across to us all.. good times are for JJ...Let`s see how fragile these scenarios can be.....BOL Hermano.... PATS-3
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Towing the same line Mon-E, however see more points on the board...Rag dolls are searching for their prickly bunny..However one must not forget the debacle caused by their now new-model player Marsh-all and nor must one forgett the many muppets that carrier pigeoned those thoughts across to us all.. good times are for JJ...Let`s see how fragile these scenarios can be.....BOL Hermano.... PATS-3
Is no news that for me QB Tom Brady will be one day in the Pro Football
Hall of Fame as one of the best Quarterbacks in the history of the NFL.
He his improving is game week after week and therefore, I expect him to
play better than in his last game against the Ravens. New England (3-1)
has one of the best offenses in the league, playing much better than
expect in this season start and with the return of WR Wes Welker,
Brady will have again more quality options to pass the ball. If in the
early season, the biggest issue with these Patriots was their defense
and how they would behave against their opponents' offenses, now we can
say that is thanks to their D that the Pats have already 3 wins under
their belt. It is a young defensive unit, and they are improving their
game week after week.
Denver (4-0) hasn't lost a game yet on this season and the reason
for that is their great defense. The Broncos D is playing very well,
causing a lot of pressure on the opponents' quarterbacks and they are
getting a lot of sacks too, 15 already. Their QB Kyle Orton has been
doing a nice season so far, but frankly I think he still has a long road ahead to become a good quarterback. Orton has
5 TD and 0 INTS, but he can be very thankful to his great quality WRs,
which are doing excellent catches despite the bad throws delivered by
Orton, with several low balls like I saw in his last game against the
Dallas Cowboys. If it weren't his WRs getting all those balls with
outstanding
catches and we would see incomplete after incomplete passes.
New England is playing much better now, specially on the Offense
and with the return of Wes Welker, the Patriots
will have a broad range of tools to keep the Broncos D busy, and when
Brady
has that kind of options at his disposal, he plays much better, and
this is for me the main factor for a fourth winner of the Pats this
season, the first for the small favorite on the road, delivering the
Broncos their first loss, and consequently both teams will finish the
Week 5 with a 4-1 record. Take the Patriots to win by 1 or more
touchdowns.
Pick : New England Patriots -3 -110/1,91 5Dimes
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New England Patriots @ Denver Broncos
Is no news that for me QB Tom Brady will be one day in the Pro Football
Hall of Fame as one of the best Quarterbacks in the history of the NFL.
He his improving is game week after week and therefore, I expect him to
play better than in his last game against the Ravens. New England (3-1)
has one of the best offenses in the league, playing much better than
expect in this season start and with the return of WR Wes Welker,
Brady will have again more quality options to pass the ball. If in the
early season, the biggest issue with these Patriots was their defense
and how they would behave against their opponents' offenses, now we can
say that is thanks to their D that the Pats have already 3 wins under
their belt. It is a young defensive unit, and they are improving their
game week after week.
Denver (4-0) hasn't lost a game yet on this season and the reason
for that is their great defense. The Broncos D is playing very well,
causing a lot of pressure on the opponents' quarterbacks and they are
getting a lot of sacks too, 15 already. Their QB Kyle Orton has been
doing a nice season so far, but frankly I think he still has a long road ahead to become a good quarterback. Orton has
5 TD and 0 INTS, but he can be very thankful to his great quality WRs,
which are doing excellent catches despite the bad throws delivered by
Orton, with several low balls like I saw in his last game against the
Dallas Cowboys. If it weren't his WRs getting all those balls with
outstanding
catches and we would see incomplete after incomplete passes.
New England is playing much better now, specially on the Offense
and with the return of Wes Welker, the Patriots
will have a broad range of tools to keep the Broncos D busy, and when
Brady
has that kind of options at his disposal, he plays much better, and
this is for me the main factor for a fourth winner of the Pats this
season, the first for the small favorite on the road, delivering the
Broncos their first loss, and consequently both teams will finish the
Week 5 with a 4-1 record. Take the Patriots to win by 1 or more
touchdowns.
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