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    New England at Seattle (02/01/2015)

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    Posted: Jan. 26, 2015 - 1:51 PM ET #176

    my 2 cents I am no way a professional gambler, I like to bet and make money while I watch the games, last week I bet a 4 team parlay early in the week something I don't like to do but the lines were Seattle -7  & 46 1/2  and N.E -6 1/2  &  53 1/2 thinking the Seattle line would move up I put my parlay in early. I bet $115.00 4 team parlay, then I bought the lines down I took Seattle -4 bought down 3 1/2 points and over 44 bought down 2 1/2  then I took N.E -4 bought down 2 1/2 and 51 for the total bought down 2 1/2   doing this made me a winner, even thought I gave up big money since the parlay would have paid $1700.00 and change if I kept the original odds (AND IT WOULD HAVE LOST) as you all no. I ended up winning $676.00 plus my $115.00 back. I told you my story for one reason don't be happy with the lines Vegas sets or your off shore betting service, you figure out what's going to take place in the game to the best of your abilities and move the line to were you like them, now I no your payout will come down but a win is a win if you must just double your original action, like this game the super bowl hey I am 57 years old I started playing football at the age of 10 sandlot high school then some collage. went to the camps the whole nine yards so I go deep into the teams playing starting with were else in the trenches offence and defense. it shock me that Seattle could not get to A.Rodgers with just there 4 man rush G.Bay controlled the line of scrimmage for most of the game and I think N.E line is better then G.Bays and since we are not playing in Seattle with no  12th man is a big plus for Brady and the boys. Seattle I think must blitz to get to Brady which will open up the 5-10 yard under pass to Edelman.  N.E offensive line go's about 315 lb's  across the board advantage N.G  Before I go any further right now my line with my off shore book is N.Eng -1 1/2 and 47 1/2  I am taking that $676.00 and betting a 2 team parlay,  right now if I took Seattle +1 1/2 and over 47 1/2  for $676.00 the pay off is $1757.00 plus my $676.00 back now that's some sweet action, but I will be buying points. Look I like Seattle and I like the over but the game scares me one of the reasons I mentioned above but I expect this to be a close game no matter who wins so points I think will come in play, so my bet go's as follows Seattle +4 buying up 2 1/2 points and the over to 44 1/2 buying down 3  So now my $676.00 only pays out $873.50 plus my $676.00 back it's a big swing but ya no I started out with $115.00 to cash out $1549.50  that's fine with me the key here Don't be greedy. I made a lot of money betting R.Wilson from his days at N.C State to Wis and now the NFL he is the really deal. So I am backing him no matter what.  Best of luck to everyone break down the game and go with your brain not your heart, this super bowl is going to be one for the books.
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    my 2 cents I am no way a professional gambler, I like to bet and make money while I watch the games, last week I bet a 4 team parlay early in the week something I don't like to do but the lines were Seattle -7  & 46 1/2  and N.E -6 1/2  &  53 1/2 thinking the Seattle line would move up I put my parlay in early. I bet $115.00 4 team parlay, then I bought the lines down I took Seattle -4 bought down 3 1/2 points and over 44 bought down 2 1/2  then I took N.E -4 bought down 2 1/2 and 51 for the total bought down 2 1/2   doing this made me a winner, even thought I gave up big money since the parlay would have paid $1700.00 and change if I kept the original odds (AND IT WOULD HAVE LOST) as you all no. I ended up winning $676.00 plus my $115.00 back. I told you my story for one reason don't be happy with the lines Vegas sets or your off shore betting service, you figure out what's going to take place in the game to the best of your abilities and move the line to were you like them, now I no your payout will come down but a win is a win if you must just double your original action, like this game the super bowl hey I am 57 years old I started playing football at the age of 10 sandlot high school then some collage. went to the camps the whole nine yards so I go deep into the teams playing starting with were else in the trenches offence and defense. it shock me that Seattle could not get to A.Rodgers with just there 4 man rush G.Bay controlled the line of scrimmage for most of the game and I think N.E line is better then G.Bays and since we are not playing in Seattle with no  12th man is a big plus for Brady and the boys. Seattle I think must blitz to get to Brady which will open up the 5-10 yard under pass to Edelman.  N.E offensive line go's about 315 lb's  across the board advantage N.G  Before I go any further right now my line with my off shore book is N.Eng -1 1/2 and 47 1/2  I am taking that $676.00 and betting a 2 team parlay,  right now if I took Seattle +1 1/2 and over 47 1/2  for $676.00 the pay off is $1757.00 plus my $676.00 back now that's some sweet action, but I will be buying points. Look I like Seattle and I like the over but the game scares me one of the reasons I mentioned above but I expect this to be a close game no matter who wins so points I think will come in play, so my bet go's as follows Seattle +4 buying up 2 1/2 points and the over to 44 1/2 buying down 3  So now my $676.00 only pays out $873.50 plus my $676.00 back it's a big swing but ya no I started out with $115.00 to cash out $1549.50  that's fine with me the key here Don't be greedy. I made a lot of money betting R.Wilson from his days at N.C State to Wis and now the NFL he is the really deal. So I am backing him no matter what.  Best of luck to everyone break down the game and go with your brain not your heart, this super bowl is going to be one for the books.
     
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    Posted: Jan. 26, 2015 - 3:13 PM ET #177

    Read the regular papers for the best analysis.  The New York times had an excellent piece last year.  Seattle was initially the favored team by +3 when the line was released last year on Sunday night; Monday morning it flipped.  The initial line before it moves is who Vegas thinks is the better team and this year Seattle was initially favored -1 on sunday night.  Deflate gate will be a factor in rattling NE's cage and it's worth reviewing the GB-SEA.  In martial arts, given two contenders of equal ability, the fighter in the best physical condition will win.  Watch the 4th qtr and OT against GB who was arguably the better team with best performance.  However, Seattle is in better physical shape when it comes to endurance.  Put simply, the Seahawks gassed them out!  This was the secret weapon of the Miami Heat in the Lebron James era: they would kick in the "turbo" 4th quarter and demolish their opoonents.  I would like to see Brady end his career on a high note however, bet against Seattle at your own peril.  ;-)
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    Read the regular papers for the best analysis.  The New York times had an excellent piece last year.  Seattle was initially the favored team by +3 when the line was released last year on Sunday night; Monday morning it flipped.  The initial line before it moves is who Vegas thinks is the better team and this year Seattle was initially favored -1 on sunday night.  Deflate gate will be a factor in rattling NE's cage and it's worth reviewing the GB-SEA.  In martial arts, given two contenders of equal ability, the fighter in the best physical condition will win.  Watch the 4th qtr and OT against GB who was arguably the better team with best performance.  However, Seattle is in better physical shape when it comes to endurance.  Put simply, the Seahawks gassed them out!  This was the secret weapon of the Miami Heat in the Lebron James era: they would kick in the "turbo" 4th quarter and demolish their opoonents.  I would like to see Brady end his career on a high note however, bet against Seattle at your own peril.  ;-)
     
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    Posted: Jan. 26, 2015 - 3:14 PM ET #178

    Correction to above:  Seattle was initially the favored team by -3 when the line was released last year on Sunday night;
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    Correction to above:  Seattle was initially the favored team by -3 when the line was released last year on Sunday night;
     
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    Posted: Jan. 26, 2015 - 3:36 PM ET #179

    I will go with NE because I just can't stand that guy Richard Sharman and punk behind Thomas III (cry baby) and little short sh*t QB and cocky as Marshawn Lynch (Piece of sh*t mode)...
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    I will go with NE because I just can't stand that guy Richard Sharman and punk behind Thomas III (cry baby) and little short sh*t QB and cocky as Marshawn Lynch (Piece of sh*t mode)...
     
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    Posted: Jan. 26, 2015 - 3:54 PM ET #180

    Quote Originally Posted by Fac:

    I will go with NE because I just can't stand that guy Richard Sharman and punk behind Thomas III (cry baby) and little short sh*t QB and cocky as Marshawn Lynch (Piece of sh*t mode)...

    Sound betting strategy....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fac:

    I will go with NE because I just can't stand that guy Richard Sharman and punk behind Thomas III (cry baby) and little short sh*t QB and cocky as Marshawn Lynch (Piece of sh*t mode)...

    Sound betting strategy....
     
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    Posted: Jan. 26, 2015 - 4:11 PM ET #181

    It will all come down to tight end play and who has the better running game. Who can stop the run better and who will cover the tight end better.
    Sip on that plus money honey!
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    It will all come down to tight end play and who has the better running game. Who can stop the run better and who will cover the tight end better.
     
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    Posted: Jan. 26, 2015 - 5:04 PM ET #182

    Quote Originally Posted by BRM:

    The best qb ever. Lol. Name a signature Brady play in a Championship game or Superbowl that doesn't involve the fumble against the raiders or his kicker.

    You cant.

    Montana, Bradshaw, Aikman, Eli. Just to name a few. You can add Wilson to that list. The td throw in OT and the throw to beat the 9ers last year. The two point conversion. He has more highlights now than Brady did winning three bowls.

    He's a great qb. But the best ever. That's silly. The ultimate game manager has lost two bowls as a double digit favorite since he stopped being a game manager. One he scored 14 points with he #1 offense of all time at that time. Did last year not teach any of you a lesson. Take the defense and the #1 running game. Just like Brady had when he won three bowls.

    This game. Edelman will not be a factor. To beat the seahawks you have to throw deep and be able to throw outside the numbers. Edelman will be taken out the game. Brady throws high to Edelman early this week and he might be in the hospital when this thing is over.


    Seattle couldn't bring Cameron into the box against Gb. They will against the pats because they don't have a deep threat.

    Seattle easily. This reminds me of the last time the 49ers faced a defense that hits hard. Against sf in Ne. The 49ers destroyed the pats.

    I expect more of the same. all BRADY does is Eat SLEEP CONQUER REPEAT.EAT SLEEP CONQUER REPEAT
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    Quote Originally Posted by BRM:

    The best qb ever. Lol. Name a signature Brady play in a Championship game or Superbowl that doesn't involve the fumble against the raiders or his kicker.

    You cant.

    Montana, Bradshaw, Aikman, Eli. Just to name a few. You can add Wilson to that list. The td throw in OT and the throw to beat the 9ers last year. The two point conversion. He has more highlights now than Brady did winning three bowls.

    He's a great qb. But the best ever. That's silly. The ultimate game manager has lost two bowls as a double digit favorite since he stopped being a game manager. One he scored 14 points with he #1 offense of all time at that time. Did last year not teach any of you a lesson. Take the defense and the #1 running game. Just like Brady had when he won three bowls.

    This game. Edelman will not be a factor. To beat the seahawks you have to throw deep and be able to throw outside the numbers. Edelman will be taken out the game. Brady throws high to Edelman early this week and he might be in the hospital when this thing is over.


    Seattle couldn't bring Cameron into the box against Gb. They will against the pats because they don't have a deep threat.

    Seattle easily. This reminds me of the last time the 49ers faced a defense that hits hard. Against sf in Ne. The 49ers destroyed the pats.

    I expect more of the same. all BRADY does is Eat SLEEP CONQUER REPEAT.EAT SLEEP CONQUER REPEAT
     
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    Posted: Jan. 26, 2015 - 5:13 PM ET #183

    Quote Originally Posted by BRM:

    The best qb ever. Lol. Name a signature Brady play in a Championship game or Superbowl that doesn't involve the fumble against the raiders or his kicker.

    You cant.

    Montana, Bradshaw, Aikman, Eli. Just to name a few. You can add Wilson to that list. The td throw in OT and the throw to beat the 9ers last year. The two point conversion. He has more highlights now than Brady did winning three bowls.

    He's a great qb. But the best ever. That's silly. The ultimate game manager has lost two bowls as a double digit favorite since he stopped being a game manager. One he scored 14 points with he #1 offense of all time at that time. Did last year not teach any of you a lesson. Take the defense and the #1 running game. Just like Brady had when he won three bowls.

    This game. Edelman will not be a factor. To beat the seahawks you have to throw deep and be able to throw outside the numbers. Edelman will be taken out the game. Brady throws high to Edelman early this week and he might be in the hospital when this thing is over.


    Seattle couldn't bring Cameron into the box against Gb. They will against the pats because they don't have a deep threat.

    Seattle easily. This reminds me of the last time the 49ers faced a defense that hits hard. Against sf in Ne. The 49ers destroyed the pats.

    I expect more of the same. All Brady does EAT SLEEP COQUER REPEAT.EAT  SLEEP CONQUER REPEAT.NEW ENGLAND in a route
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    Quote Originally Posted by BRM:

    The best qb ever. Lol. Name a signature Brady play in a Championship game or Superbowl that doesn't involve the fumble against the raiders or his kicker.

    You cant.

    Montana, Bradshaw, Aikman, Eli. Just to name a few. You can add Wilson to that list. The td throw in OT and the throw to beat the 9ers last year. The two point conversion. He has more highlights now than Brady did winning three bowls.

    He's a great qb. But the best ever. That's silly. The ultimate game manager has lost two bowls as a double digit favorite since he stopped being a game manager. One he scored 14 points with he #1 offense of all time at that time. Did last year not teach any of you a lesson. Take the defense and the #1 running game. Just like Brady had when he won three bowls.

    This game. Edelman will not be a factor. To beat the seahawks you have to throw deep and be able to throw outside the numbers. Edelman will be taken out the game. Brady throws high to Edelman early this week and he might be in the hospital when this thing is over.


    Seattle couldn't bring Cameron into the box against Gb. They will against the pats because they don't have a deep threat.

    Seattle easily. This reminds me of the last time the 49ers faced a defense that hits hard. Against sf in Ne. The 49ers destroyed the pats.

    I expect more of the same. All Brady does EAT SLEEP COQUER REPEAT.EAT  SLEEP CONQUER REPEAT.NEW ENGLAND in a route
     
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    Posted: Jan. 26, 2015 - 5:21 PM ET #184

    Quote Originally Posted by GunShard:

    Defense wins championships.
      BRADY wins chapionships NE in a route
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    Quote Originally Posted by GunShard:

    Defense wins championships.
      BRADY wins chapionships NE in a route
     
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    Posted: Jan. 26, 2015 - 6:12 PM ET #185

          Seahawks by 10 - 12 points...................

                        COMFORTABLY !!

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          Seahawks by 10 - 12 points...................

                        COMFORTABLY !!

     
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    Posted: Jan. 26, 2015 - 7:12 PM ET #186

    Quote Originally Posted by morgan102:

    Newbie cappers?You're sounding like one!Seattle s lucky they are in the superbowl!The Pats are gonna watch that tape on how the The Packers kept Wilson in a vonal, hell I watched tape.They cut off his normal excapes lanes, and kept his little as- in the pocket ,and for the most part of the game,until they start playing not to lose.Man,you Hawk backers must be your out of your minds, if you think Coach B and his coaching staff  is not gonna look at that blueprint tape the Packers provided for,do not know how to handcap games,and in reality is a NEWBIE!!!

    I'm not accustom to throwing cheap shots or starting a "flame war" , Bro. However, as I recall, you "use to" have all those  RSI red  stars next to your name. What happened Bro- fell on hard  times?  My advice is others should start fading you, until you start producing again. Wouldn't want you giving others a "bum steer"! Anyway, Bro, I hold no grudges (and either should you) GL, but bet lightly-  I wouldn't want to see you getting burnt.

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    Newbie cappers?You're sounding like one!Seattle s lucky they are in the superbowl!The Pats are gonna watch that tape on how the The Packers kept Wilson in a vonal, hell I watched tape.They cut off his normal excapes lanes, and kept his little as- in the pocket ,and for the most part of the game,until they start playing not to lose.Man,you Hawk backers must be your out of your minds, if you think Coach B and his coaching staff  is not gonna look at that blueprint tape the Packers provided for,do not know how to handcap games,and in reality is a NEWBIE!!!

    I'm not accustom to throwing cheap shots or starting a "flame war" , Bro. However, as I recall, you "use to" have all those  RSI red  stars next to your name. What happened Bro- fell on hard  times?  My advice is others should start fading you, until you start producing again. Wouldn't want you giving others a "bum steer"! Anyway, Bro, I hold no grudges (and either should you) GL, but bet lightly-  I wouldn't want to see you getting burnt.

     
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    Posted: Jan. 26, 2015 - 7:44 PM ET #187

    Quote Originally Posted by vue21849:

    I'm not accustom to throwing cheap shots or starting a "flame war" , Bro. However, as I recall, you "use to" have all those  RSI red  stars next to your name. What happened Bro- fell on hard  times?  My advice is others should start fading you, until you start producing again. Wouldn't want you giving others a "bum steer"! Anyway, Bro, I hold no grudges (and either should you) GL, but bet lightly-  I wouldn't want to see you getting burnt.

    You us that red star comment on everyone that disagrees with you. Including myself. And Seattle by 10-12 points is wack-O. 
    Pats by 3 and you heard it here from me !
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    I'm not accustom to throwing cheap shots or starting a "flame war" , Bro. However, as I recall, you "use to" have all those  RSI red  stars next to your name. What happened Bro- fell on hard  times?  My advice is others should start fading you, until you start producing again. Wouldn't want you giving others a "bum steer"! Anyway, Bro, I hold no grudges (and either should you) GL, but bet lightly-  I wouldn't want to see you getting burnt.

    You us that red star comment on everyone that disagrees with you. Including myself. And Seattle by 10-12 points is wack-O. 
    Pats by 3 and you heard it here from me !
     
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    Posted: Jan. 26, 2015 - 7:49 PM ET #188

    Watch out for Luke Willson. He'll be making some big plays..
    Sip on that plus money honey!
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    Watch out for Luke Willson. He'll be making some big plays..
     
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    Posted: Jan. 26, 2015 - 8:10 PM ET #189

    Quote Originally Posted by highoctane3:

    bill and tom punish the seahawks for all the acusations against them
    WOW U take stupid to a whole new level. U r the type of guy.If  they caught Bill Belicheat on video raping a nun U and Bill would say it was consensual sex.
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    bill and tom punish the seahawks for all the acusations against them
    WOW U take stupid to a whole new level. U r the type of guy.If  they caught Bill Belicheat on video raping a nun U and Bill would say it was consensual sex.
     
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    Posted: Jan. 26, 2015 - 8:28 PM ET #190

    Quote Originally Posted by UHQB:

    You us that red star comment on everyone that disagrees with you. Including myself. And Seattle by 10-12 points is wack-O. 
    Pats by 3 and you heard it here from me !

    Hey- I didn't establish Covers capping standards- they did! If you're somewhat good they give you red stars- so so and you get no color, and if you're sucky ,you get black stars. It's their ball, game, and court-not mine.

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    You us that red star comment on everyone that disagrees with you. Including myself. And Seattle by 10-12 points is wack-O. 
    Pats by 3 and you heard it here from me !

    Hey- I didn't establish Covers capping standards- they did! If you're somewhat good they give you red stars- so so and you get no color, and if you're sucky ,you get black stars. It's their ball, game, and court-not mine.

     
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    Posted: Jan. 26, 2015 - 9:52 PM ET #191

    Quote Originally Posted by vue21849:

    OVER      48

    "...Call it what you like - but the game boils down to defense, ball control, and a more consistent ground game."......hmm, can defense and ground game carry the OVR 48?  good luck Friend!!!
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    OVER      48

    "...Call it what you like - but the game boils down to defense, ball control, and a more consistent ground game."......hmm, can defense and ground game carry the OVR 48?  good luck Friend!!!
     
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    Posted: Jan. 26, 2015 - 11:02 PM ET #192

    SEATTLE SEAHAWKS -1
    it was -3 nfc 
    now Patriots beat a Colts team that beat a Marv Lewis team.?.?.
    Colts beat a Broncos team that fired the coach for it.
    Seattle is clearly the better team.
    Sorry Patriot fans
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    SEATTLE SEAHAWKS -1
    it was -3 nfc 
    now Patriots beat a Colts team that beat a Marv Lewis team.?.?.
    Colts beat a Broncos team that fired the coach for it.
    Seattle is clearly the better team.
    Sorry Patriot fans
     
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    Posted: Jan. 26, 2015 - 11:03 PM ET #193

    Yes ban Carlito
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    Posted: Jan. 26, 2015 - 11:18 PM ET #194

    Quote Originally Posted by toan17:

    "...Call it what you like - but the game boils down to defense, ball control, and a more consistent ground game."......hmm, can defense and ground game carry the OVR 48?  good luck Friend!!!

    Very good point you bring up.  However, there are "two" teams combining to make up the total. I seriously doubt that Tom Brady will be stifled, and subsequently he will contribute to the scoring . For the Seahawks to win, they will have to severely limit Brady's onfield playing time. As is their playing style, that is accomplished by ball control (clock management) a ground game, and short manageable passes to move the chains. Couple their efforts on offense with one of the league's best secondary (both capable of supporting against the rush as well as limiting long strikes down field). Still , when Brady is  given ample time, he will do some damage. There is no "absolute" defense invented that can completely shut down the likes of a Brady,Manning, or Rogers.

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    "...Call it what you like - but the game boils down to defense, ball control, and a more consistent ground game."......hmm, can defense and ground game carry the OVR 48?  good luck Friend!!!

    Very good point you bring up.  However, there are "two" teams combining to make up the total. I seriously doubt that Tom Brady will be stifled, and subsequently he will contribute to the scoring . For the Seahawks to win, they will have to severely limit Brady's onfield playing time. As is their playing style, that is accomplished by ball control (clock management) a ground game, and short manageable passes to move the chains. Couple their efforts on offense with one of the league's best secondary (both capable of supporting against the rush as well as limiting long strikes down field). Still , when Brady is  given ample time, he will do some damage. There is no "absolute" defense invented that can completely shut down the likes of a Brady,Manning, or Rogers.

     
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    Posted: Jan. 26, 2015 - 11:51 PM ET #195

    NE 1st H PK
    1st H U24
    NE Gm PK
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    1st H U24
    NE Gm PK
     
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    Posted: Jan. 27, 2015 - 1:06 AM ET #196

    Denver had the best offense in all of football last Superbowl.

    That went real well.

    Seattle -7. big payout on the sold points.

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    Denver had the best offense in all of football last Superbowl.

    That went real well.

    Seattle -7. big payout on the sold points.

     
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    Posted: Jan. 27, 2015 - 1:42 AM ET #197

    Quote Originally Posted by vue21849:

          Seahawks by 10 - 12 points...................

                        COMFORTABLY !!

    lol...yea...like u wd really LAY 10pnts here...cut it out!!
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          Seahawks by 10 - 12 points...................

                        COMFORTABLY !!

    lol...yea...like u wd really LAY 10pnts here...cut it out!!
     
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    Posted: Jan. 27, 2015 - 1:43 AM ET #198

    Quote Originally Posted by searchwarrant:

    Denver had the best offense in all of football last Superbowl.

    That went real well.

    Seattle -7. big payout on the sold points.

    ok...so I'll expect 2 read ur excuse come Monday mr. Chip$
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    Denver had the best offense in all of football last Superbowl.

    That went real well.

    Seattle -7. big payout on the sold points.

    ok...so I'll expect 2 read ur excuse come Monday mr. Chip$
     
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    Posted: Jan. 27, 2015 - 1:46 AM ET #199

    Quote Originally Posted by Digitalkarma:

    Watch out for Luke Willson. He'll be making some big plays..
    Luke Wilson the ACTOR??
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    Watch out for Luke Willson. He'll be making some big plays..
    Luke Wilson the ACTOR??
     
     
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    Posted: Jan. 27, 2015 - 1:48 AM ET #200

    Quote Originally Posted by Radiators:

    Yes ban Carlito
    lmao... Ban Deez lil sissy boy..
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    Yes ban Carlito
    lmao... Ban Deez lil sissy boy..
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