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    jjmandl
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    Posted: Feb. 3, 2010 - 3:11 PM ET #176

    Quote Originally Posted by 808pickyboy:

    Alright guys, This is what I got so far as an overview of these two teams and the opinions of the past weekend.

    1) First of all we all have to give credit to the Saints defense, backers or not, in helping in creating those 5 TO's. Farve and A.P. by all means did not intend to give those TO'S away willingly. They were created by presure to the QB, great tackles, and sub-concious mental error caused by the defense. This goes both ways. As an example for the TO by Regie Bush, he was scared of getting hit hard cause he pereferably saw the defense coming to hit him and was unable to secure the ball on the punt return. He put his head down and forgot he had to catch. As far as AD, those were great hits on the ball and good stripping by others. Farve got hit hard all day, I think about 18-20 times and after the first few, it was noticeable that he was hurting. It is human nature to be scared no matter how physically or mentally tough you are.

    2) Yes the Saints only won by 3 points and as a Saints fan, I will agree that they got lucky to have gotten that INT in the fourth quarter intead of being down by a FG with only 19 seconds left. One thing I do see as the differense between the 2 winning teams as why their performance was so is that Colts were playing the #1 defense, yes, but a non-rested defense. Jets have been banging it out every week since week 5 I believe. The Vikings on the other hand, although not ranked #1 in defense but still respectable, had a bye week and time to rest. The Saints defense held a team which is capable of scoring in the 40's to just 28 points. The Vikings as well got lucky as I saw many times Saints had the chance of opening up the game by just simply recovering the fumbles instead of trying to pick it up and running. Both QB's as experienced as they were, was throwing balls into coverage that makes you say" What The F@#$".

    3) J.Shockey, who is a huge part of the Saints offense, was not a big factor in this game because of the limited playing time due to his knee injury. He will be in against the Colts and healthy enough to make a statement.

    As far as head to head in the Super Bowl, At this time, I am leaning towards NO Saints SU win, due to the fact that they have a well balanced team right now. They keep their Running Backs fresh from constant substitution. NE Patriots(Great Passing Team) had a good chance to beat the Colts but one thing that is obviously different from the Patriots is that the Saints is not        "1 DIMENSIONAL" as far as offense. Colts is more of a passing team than a running team, and the Saints "D" has recently proven with proper time to prepare against one team, they get the job done. This game could go both ways but I do think , unbiasly, that the Saints have more arsenal on offense and as a fresh and healthy unit, their defense could be the #4 ranked "D" from early in the season. They create turnovers. Manning is a great QB but Farve is one of the greatest. Saints has had more success ATS and SU against the Colts than the Vikings.

    Just my thoughts for right now. Early lean on the Saints SU win and I do see the OVER as a big possibility.

    ALOHA 808PICKYBOY

     

     

    Get out of town!!!  You like the Saints to win straight up!?!?  What a crazy monumental surprise!!  

    Wow your research really gave you a solid and unbiased opinion on the game, huh? 

    ~ if only there was an ignore user feature my forum would only be 4 pages instead of 8.  Please stop posting every hour of the day, go to the beach or go for a hike or something dude.   

    ~ IrishEyez i love the money line point you make. 

    But i think the spread for this game should be 6 or higher, the fact that NO is sort of america's darling has kept the spread where it is IMO.  Its like a cowboys game, the spread is always a point or two off.  Therefore i think the Colts are a good bet, stealing a couple points off the spread from the Saints bandwagoners. 

     

    Peyton probably will not get hit 1/4 of the times that Favre got hit so that factor will weigh heavily.  If Favre doesn't get hit 1000 times last week I think the Vikings with that game.

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by 808pickyboy:

    Alright guys, This is what I got so far as an overview of these two teams and the opinions of the past weekend.

    1) First of all we all have to give credit to the Saints defense, backers or not, in helping in creating those 5 TO's. Farve and A.P. by all means did not intend to give those TO'S away willingly. They were created by presure to the QB, great tackles, and sub-concious mental error caused by the defense. This goes both ways. As an example for the TO by Regie Bush, he was scared of getting hit hard cause he pereferably saw the defense coming to hit him and was unable to secure the ball on the punt return. He put his head down and forgot he had to catch. As far as AD, those were great hits on the ball and good stripping by others. Farve got hit hard all day, I think about 18-20 times and after the first few, it was noticeable that he was hurting. It is human nature to be scared no matter how physically or mentally tough you are.

    2) Yes the Saints only won by 3 points and as a Saints fan, I will agree that they got lucky to have gotten that INT in the fourth quarter intead of being down by a FG with only 19 seconds left. One thing I do see as the differense between the 2 winning teams as why their performance was so is that Colts were playing the #1 defense, yes, but a non-rested defense. Jets have been banging it out every week since week 5 I believe. The Vikings on the other hand, although not ranked #1 in defense but still respectable, had a bye week and time to rest. The Saints defense held a team which is capable of scoring in the 40's to just 28 points. The Vikings as well got lucky as I saw many times Saints had the chance of opening up the game by just simply recovering the fumbles instead of trying to pick it up and running. Both QB's as experienced as they were, was throwing balls into coverage that makes you say" What The F@#$".

    3) J.Shockey, who is a huge part of the Saints offense, was not a big factor in this game because of the limited playing time due to his knee injury. He will be in against the Colts and healthy enough to make a statement.

    As far as head to head in the Super Bowl, At this time, I am leaning towards NO Saints SU win, due to the fact that they have a well balanced team right now. They keep their Running Backs fresh from constant substitution. NE Patriots(Great Passing Team) had a good chance to beat the Colts but one thing that is obviously different from the Patriots is that the Saints is not        "1 DIMENSIONAL" as far as offense. Colts is more of a passing team than a running team, and the Saints "D" has recently proven with proper time to prepare against one team, they get the job done. This game could go both ways but I do think , unbiasly, that the Saints have more arsenal on offense and as a fresh and healthy unit, their defense could be the #4 ranked "D" from early in the season. They create turnovers. Manning is a great QB but Farve is one of the greatest. Saints has had more success ATS and SU against the Colts than the Vikings.

    Just my thoughts for right now. Early lean on the Saints SU win and I do see the OVER as a big possibility.

    ALOHA 808PICKYBOY

     

     

    Get out of town!!!  You like the Saints to win straight up!?!?  What a crazy monumental surprise!!  

    Wow your research really gave you a solid and unbiased opinion on the game, huh? 

    ~ if only there was an ignore user feature my forum would only be 4 pages instead of 8.  Please stop posting every hour of the day, go to the beach or go for a hike or something dude.   

    ~ IrishEyez i love the money line point you make. 

    But i think the spread for this game should be 6 or higher, the fact that NO is sort of america's darling has kept the spread where it is IMO.  Its like a cowboys game, the spread is always a point or two off.  Therefore i think the Colts are a good bet, stealing a couple points off the spread from the Saints bandwagoners. 

     

    Peyton probably will not get hit 1/4 of the times that Favre got hit so that factor will weigh heavily.  If Favre doesn't get hit 1000 times last week I think the Vikings with that game.

     

     
    Boylan45
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    Posted: Feb. 3, 2010 - 7:39 PM ET #177

    • Really like a tease here with Saints +10.5 and over 50.5 lock!  
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    • Really like a tease here with Saints +10.5 and over 50.5 lock!  
     
    SEC_CHEF
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    Posted: Feb. 3, 2010 - 7:43 PM ET #178

    Like every saints fan is on here proclaiming a straight up victory...I know you guys want it, and feel like "its supposed to happen" bc of katrina or the past teams or so you guys can run around butchering the English Language yelling "Who Dat"

    Probably one of the stupidest chants, cheers, slogans, or what ever the hell it is that i have ever heard...its right up there with  that stupid dancing tree for Stanford.

    Manning...Peyton Manning.


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    Like every saints fan is on here proclaiming a straight up victory...I know you guys want it, and feel like "its supposed to happen" bc of katrina or the past teams or so you guys can run around butchering the English Language yelling "Who Dat"

    Probably one of the stupidest chants, cheers, slogans, or what ever the hell it is that i have ever heard...its right up there with  that stupid dancing tree for Stanford.

    Manning...Peyton Manning.


     
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    Posted: Feb. 3, 2010 - 8:28 PM ET #179

    Quote Originally Posted by Boylan45:

    • Really like a tease here with Saints +10.5 and over 50.5 lock!  

    I love the avatar since I'm an Eagles fan........but the books are fans of the tease.......worst bet in all of sports......you have to win two outcomes to win even money.......and if you lose you pay around 20% juice.........take the two team parlay......if you lose it's even money on the lose and if you win it's two and a half times your money......it's a no brainer........both outcomes in an in-game parlay NEVER are both outcomes within the tease amount.......and if they are.......great, you played two outcomes to win even money when you could have just picked the outcome or U/O and won the same amount with half the juice at risk........GL though.....I'm just passing on my bookie buds information to everyone........they love to book the teases!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boylan45:

    • Really like a tease here with Saints +10.5 and over 50.5 lock!  

    I love the avatar since I'm an Eagles fan........but the books are fans of the tease.......worst bet in all of sports......you have to win two outcomes to win even money.......and if you lose you pay around 20% juice.........take the two team parlay......if you lose it's even money on the lose and if you win it's two and a half times your money......it's a no brainer........both outcomes in an in-game parlay NEVER are both outcomes within the tease amount.......and if they are.......great, you played two outcomes to win even money when you could have just picked the outcome or U/O and won the same amount with half the juice at risk........GL though.....I'm just passing on my bookie buds information to everyone........they love to book the teases!!!

     
    zo3bi
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    Posted: Feb. 3, 2010 - 8:42 PM ET #180

    alright bro.. manning will win his second and drew brees comes back next year for the win. i dont think manning will take it easy. drew breez is right on the money when he throws and the colts know that look for the colts to blits , and cover every single reciever deep down the field.. there will be no chance for the cool brees to throw deep.. colts will study the tampa, and carolina games and get something from there. this is a team that learns. don't think for a sec that the colts didnt know that the saints wont be a top contender for the superball and they didnt practise for them earlier during the year. take my word colts win this matchup
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    alright bro.. manning will win his second and drew brees comes back next year for the win. i dont think manning will take it easy. drew breez is right on the money when he throws and the colts know that look for the colts to blits , and cover every single reciever deep down the field.. there will be no chance for the cool brees to throw deep.. colts will study the tampa, and carolina games and get something from there. this is a team that learns. don't think for a sec that the colts didnt know that the saints wont be a top contender for the superball and they didnt practise for them earlier during the year. take my word colts win this matchup
     
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    Posted: Feb. 3, 2010 - 8:48 PM ET #181

    Quote Originally Posted by Irisheyez:

    I love the avatar since I'm an Eagles fan........but the books are fans of the tease.......worst bet in all of sports......you have to win two outcomes to win even money.......and if you lose you pay around 20% juice.........take the two team parlay......if you lose it's even money on the lose and if you win it's two and a half times your money......it's a no brainer........both outcomes in an in-game parlay NEVER are both outcomes within the tease amount.......and if they are.......great, you played two outcomes to win even money when you could have just picked the outcome or U/O and won the same amount with half the juice at risk........GL though.....I'm just passing on my bookie buds information to everyone........they love to book the teases!!!



    Mr Eyez...my, SBG just suddenly wen to -4.5 and FINALLY dropped the ML -210...I think i am going to still sit on the sidelines and watch this play out a bit more...

    This could really turn sweet

    chef
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    Quote Originally Posted by Irisheyez:

    I love the avatar since I'm an Eagles fan........but the books are fans of the tease.......worst bet in all of sports......you have to win two outcomes to win even money.......and if you lose you pay around 20% juice.........take the two team parlay......if you lose it's even money on the lose and if you win it's two and a half times your money......it's a no brainer........both outcomes in an in-game parlay NEVER are both outcomes within the tease amount.......and if they are.......great, you played two outcomes to win even money when you could have just picked the outcome or U/O and won the same amount with half the juice at risk........GL though.....I'm just passing on my bookie buds information to everyone........they love to book the teases!!!



    Mr Eyez...my, SBG just suddenly wen to -4.5 and FINALLY dropped the ML -210...I think i am going to still sit on the sidelines and watch this play out a bit more...

    This could really turn sweet

    chef
     
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    Posted: Feb. 3, 2010 - 8:55 PM ET #182

    What do you like better
     
    Indy     +10.5
    or
    Saints   +21.5
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    What do you like better
     
    Indy     +10.5
    or
    Saints   +21.5
     
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    Posted: Feb. 3, 2010 - 9:52 PM ET #183

    Just read this trend on another website

    super bowl underdogs with a qb who posted a qb rating of over 100 are 0-8 su and ats and only average 14.1 pts in the big game

    also........

    Teams playing in their first Super Bowl against an experienced club are 5-2-1 ATS in their L8

    The team that averages more points per game offensively headed into the Super Bowl is just 1-8-1 ATS (10%) over the last decade.

    The team with the better turnover differential heading into the Super Bowl is 0-6 ATS (0%) over the L6 years.

     

     

     

     

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    Just read this trend on another website

    super bowl underdogs with a qb who posted a qb rating of over 100 are 0-8 su and ats and only average 14.1 pts in the big game

    also........

    Teams playing in their first Super Bowl against an experienced club are 5-2-1 ATS in their L8

    The team that averages more points per game offensively headed into the Super Bowl is just 1-8-1 ATS (10%) over the last decade.

    The team with the better turnover differential heading into the Super Bowl is 0-6 ATS (0%) over the L6 years.

     

     

     

     

     
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    Posted: Feb. 3, 2010 - 9:55 PM ET #184

    Quote Originally Posted by rekamyenoM:

    What do you like better
     
    Indy     +10.5
    or
    Saints   +21.5

    I would take Saints +21.5. Thats as close to a, well lets just say it is a good bet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rekamyenoM:

    What do you like better
     
    Indy     +10.5
    or
    Saints   +21.5

    I would take Saints +21.5. Thats as close to a, well lets just say it is a good bet.

     
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    Posted: Feb. 4, 2010 - 1:42 PM ET #185

    Love N.O. To win this straight up. Look what New England did to the Colts when they got to Manning. They had that game won. N.O. Had Favre on his back 16 times. Expect the same in this one.

    SAINTS WIN AND COVER

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    Love N.O. To win this straight up. Look what New England did to the Colts when they got to Manning. They had that game won. N.O. Had Favre on his back 16 times. Expect the same in this one.

    SAINTS WIN AND COVER

     
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    Posted: Feb. 4, 2010 - 2:34 PM ET #186

    Quote Originally Posted by SEC_CHEF:



    Mr Eyez...my, SBG just suddenly wen to -4.5 and FINALLY dropped the ML -210...I think i am going to still sit on the sidelines and watch this play out a bit more...

    This could really turn sweet

    chef

    I'm with you on that my friend.  I have a G on the Colts already when it jumped to 5.5.......looks like I left at least a point on the table when it came back down to 4.5.  I don't think it will matter in the end though.  I still like the Colts to win by 10-14 points. 

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    Quote Originally Posted by SEC_CHEF:



    Mr Eyez...my, SBG just suddenly wen to -4.5 and FINALLY dropped the ML -210...I think i am going to still sit on the sidelines and watch this play out a bit more...

    This could really turn sweet

    chef

    I'm with you on that my friend.  I have a G on the Colts already when it jumped to 5.5.......looks like I left at least a point on the table when it came back down to 4.5.  I don't think it will matter in the end though.  I still like the Colts to win by 10-14 points. 

     
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    I still really like the under.......that is a very high number.  If one of these teams struggles for a half, you would think it has to hit.  If they both play lights out, it certainly could go over.......but I suggest playing the odds.  1st time team in the big game.  Both teams are dome teams playing in open air and there is the possiblility of rain.  N.O. only had 77 yards of total offense in the second half of the Minny game..........the odds suggest playing the under 8 TD total here to me.  56.5 is a huge number for the SB. 
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    I still really like the under.......that is a very high number.  If one of these teams struggles for a half, you would think it has to hit.  If they both play lights out, it certainly could go over.......but I suggest playing the odds.  1st time team in the big game.  Both teams are dome teams playing in open air and there is the possiblility of rain.  N.O. only had 77 yards of total offense in the second half of the Minny game..........the odds suggest playing the under 8 TD total here to me.  56.5 is a huge number for the SB. 
     
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    Posted: Feb. 4, 2010 - 5:58 PM ET #188

    Saints +5.5, Under 56.5
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    Saints +5.5, Under 56.5
     
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      No matter how this Super Bowl ends up, this has got to be one of the best season of Football in the NFL. This season was filled with great plays by all positions, offense and defense and the best show has yet to come. For the two final teams in this "Battle Royal", lots of their rankings do no justice of what these two can really do on both sides of the ball when they are in full force. I guess the reason why it is the best season for me is that I get to watch my team after all these years from "BROWN BAGS TO STARDOM", play in the biggest sports event in the United States. Those bags are now going to be used only to recycle in the stands and hopefully fill it up with cash from winning tickets. Since I have had the best year so far, I figure "why not go out with a bang." Watching my team from start to finish is worth any outcome of this bet. Good Luck to all and hopefully your brown bags are filled with cash not trash.

                FINAL PLAYS IN THE 2009-2010 NFL SEASON
           (As always only three bets no matter what combination)
     
    1)  STRAIGHT UP side bet with ColtPower

    808PickyBoy          Saints
    Coltpower               Colts

    100 Goes to the winner (Good Luck CP)

    2)  Saints WIN SU ( 2 DIMES ) 

    3)  Saints SU + OVER 56.5  ( 2 DIMES ) 

    FINAL PREDICTION OF GAME

    SAINTS   42      7 / 14 / 14 / 7 

      ( includes 1 TD by Defense from a TO and a kick return by R. Bush for another TD )

    COLTS    33      7 / 7 / 7 / 10  

     Includes a special team fumble recovery at the end of the 3rd quarter after scoring TD to get with in 14 points. What seems to be another great comeback by the Colts with 17 unanswered points, the Saints once again recovers a TO and drives the ball down field with authority and puts the final blow on the Colts hopes of winning the Super Bowl.   

                                    You never know.   

                     808ALLDAYINDAWHODATNATION

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      No matter how this Super Bowl ends up, this has got to be one of the best season of Football in the NFL. This season was filled with great plays by all positions, offense and defense and the best show has yet to come. For the two final teams in this "Battle Royal", lots of their rankings do no justice of what these two can really do on both sides of the ball when they are in full force. I guess the reason why it is the best season for me is that I get to watch my team after all these years from "BROWN BAGS TO STARDOM", play in the biggest sports event in the United States. Those bags are now going to be used only to recycle in the stands and hopefully fill it up with cash from winning tickets. Since I have had the best year so far, I figure "why not go out with a bang." Watching my team from start to finish is worth any outcome of this bet. Good Luck to all and hopefully your brown bags are filled with cash not trash.

                FINAL PLAYS IN THE 2009-2010 NFL SEASON
           (As always only three bets no matter what combination)
     
    1)  STRAIGHT UP side bet with ColtPower

    808PickyBoy          Saints
    Coltpower               Colts

    100 Goes to the winner (Good Luck CP)

    2)  Saints WIN SU ( 2 DIMES ) 

    3)  Saints SU + OVER 56.5  ( 2 DIMES ) 

    FINAL PREDICTION OF GAME

    SAINTS   42      7 / 14 / 14 / 7 

      ( includes 1 TD by Defense from a TO and a kick return by R. Bush for another TD )

    COLTS    33      7 / 7 / 7 / 10  

     Includes a special team fumble recovery at the end of the 3rd quarter after scoring TD to get with in 14 points. What seems to be another great comeback by the Colts with 17 unanswered points, the Saints once again recovers a TO and drives the ball down field with authority and puts the final blow on the Colts hopes of winning the Super Bowl.   

                                    You never know.   

                     808ALLDAYINDAWHODATNATION

     
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    Posted: Feb. 5, 2010 - 10:29 AM ET #190

    My pick is
    Colts 30   Saints 20
    Good Luck everyone hope you all have a good day watching the game and The Who during half time show.  Enjoy the commercials and I hope you all at least remember some of the game by monday morning.
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    My pick is
    Colts 30   Saints 20
    Good Luck everyone hope you all have a good day watching the game and The Who during half time show.  Enjoy the commercials and I hope you all at least remember some of the game by monday morning.
     
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    Posted: Feb. 5, 2010 - 11:21 AM ET #191

    Tease the Colts and the Saints.  Tease the over and the under.  Vegas is usually pretty good with the number, besides I have a feeling the Saints cover, too much money on the Colts with the points here.
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    Tease the Colts and the Saints.  Tease the over and the under.  Vegas is usually pretty good with the number, besides I have a feeling the Saints cover, too much money on the Colts with the points here.
     
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    Posted: Feb. 5, 2010 - 11:36 AM ET #192

    I like the Colts giving the 4.5 even 5.5. The weather will be good, Manning  will be playing with determnation just as in his previous Super Bowl and the game against New England that year. That's why I think he will score early and often and will not let up. I am thinking 35+ maybe over 40. The Colts defense will stop and slow Brees and the Saints often enough to allow Manning to operate. The Saints won't be as successful at stripping the ball as in the Vikings game. The Ravens are noted for stripping the ball and it did not work against the Colts. I think you might see a few roughing the QB calls against the Saints, thus slowing them down - again favoring Manning.

    Predicting Colts 37 - 24 or 28.  Looks like the over also.

    Good luck to all.

    "That's why they call it gambling."

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    I like the Colts giving the 4.5 even 5.5. The weather will be good, Manning  will be playing with determnation just as in his previous Super Bowl and the game against New England that year. That's why I think he will score early and often and will not let up. I am thinking 35+ maybe over 40. The Colts defense will stop and slow Brees and the Saints often enough to allow Manning to operate. The Saints won't be as successful at stripping the ball as in the Vikings game. The Ravens are noted for stripping the ball and it did not work against the Colts. I think you might see a few roughing the QB calls against the Saints, thus slowing them down - again favoring Manning.

    Predicting Colts 37 - 24 or 28.  Looks like the over also.

    Good luck to all.

    "That's why they call it gambling."

     
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    Posted: Feb. 5, 2010 - 11:45 AM ET #193

    just locked in an "alternative spread" bet....

     

    Saints +21.5   -800

     

    hopefully the Saints don't get blown out!

     

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    just locked in an "alternative spread" bet....

     

    Saints +21.5   -800

     

    hopefully the Saints don't get blown out!

     

     
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    Posted: Feb. 5, 2010 - 12:14 PM ET #194




          Anybody got an over under on breakabookie - Pickyboy posts ?


                                                lol
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          Anybody got an over under on breakabookie - Pickyboy posts ?


                                                lol
     
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    Posted: Feb. 5, 2010 - 1:06 PM ET #195

    Soup Bowl thoughts to consider...

    - More effective saints can run the ball,less effective Indy's pass rush will be.
    - Colts speed defense tends to dominate run oriented teams such as Ravens n' Jets.
    - Balanced pass/run team as Saints,Pats n' Bolts have traditionally given Colts problems.
    - Colts safeties have had luxury of dealing with inferior passing attacks throughout playoffs n' majority of season.
    - Same can't be said for Saints.
    - Major weakness for Colts = Special teams from where sole modification made from last year was change of punter. lol
    Unless punts are flying out of bounds,Colts could be in a shit of trouble.
    - Make no mistake,Reggie Bush is in the zone and in last year of his contract $$$ ( Man has Supe MVP with $$ heart )
    - Chances are pretty good Bush can be game breaker player,if not Sharper, logically Manning or Brees.
    - Colts have distinct edge with multiple receiving options, especially with Shockey reduced to 65 % efficiency.
    - However,would take Pierre Thomas n' Reggie Bush anyday over Colts backfield,as Adai could be  non factor being straight type of runner,needing holes in the middle to be successful.

    In a Previous post ,mentioned how Colts have been hand ridden,facing weak offensive teams during season and especially during playoff stretch run,winning easily vs.unbalanced offensive teams.As a result of this,Colts could be caught off guard,facing one of the league's top QB n'  top scoring machine.
    With Colts riding high as cool 6 point favorites ,entire burden of success rides on Manning's shoulders and it's quite conceivable that Saints have mental and conditioning advantage over Indy,
    being a hungrier team + having faced higher calibrated offenses with success,led by notable QB's as Favre,Warner,Eli,Brady and Romo to name a few.
    Have Little doubts Saints defense/ offense WILL bounce back after sub par performance from Saints -Vikings fiasco, as Saints TEND to kick ass following a bye week.
    - Turn over battle will naturally be Key to success and unless it rains,it's highly unlikely to see repeat turnover performance from Vikes / saints game.
    Peyton's foresight n' game smarts will diffuse Saints blitz schemes by going to quick counts n' no huddle offense,that WILL keep Saints D off balanced.However Manning has ABSOLUTELY 
    no need to force the issue,whereabouts Brees may have to,
    even though Saints should stick to a balanced,conservative game plan to win this one without turnovers standing in the way.
    CAN'T see both teams airing it out via slugfest fashion,
    hence believe total to remain under.

    Back later...
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    Soup Bowl thoughts to consider...

    - More effective saints can run the ball,less effective Indy's pass rush will be.
    - Colts speed defense tends to dominate run oriented teams such as Ravens n' Jets.
    - Balanced pass/run team as Saints,Pats n' Bolts have traditionally given Colts problems.
    - Colts safeties have had luxury of dealing with inferior passing attacks throughout playoffs n' majority of season.
    - Same can't be said for Saints.
    - Major weakness for Colts = Special teams from where sole modification made from last year was change of punter. lol
    Unless punts are flying out of bounds,Colts could be in a shit of trouble.
    - Make no mistake,Reggie Bush is in the zone and in last year of his contract $$$ ( Man has Supe MVP with $$ heart )
    - Chances are pretty good Bush can be game breaker player,if not Sharper, logically Manning or Brees.
    - Colts have distinct edge with multiple receiving options, especially with Shockey reduced to 65 % efficiency.
    - However,would take Pierre Thomas n' Reggie Bush anyday over Colts backfield,as Adai could be  non factor being straight type of runner,needing holes in the middle to be successful.

    In a Previous post ,mentioned how Colts have been hand ridden,facing weak offensive teams during season and especially during playoff stretch run,winning easily vs.unbalanced offensive teams.As a result of this,Colts could be caught off guard,facing one of the league's top QB n'  top scoring machine.
    With Colts riding high as cool 6 point favorites ,entire burden of success rides on Manning's shoulders and it's quite conceivable that Saints have mental and conditioning advantage over Indy,
    being a hungrier team + having faced higher calibrated offenses with success,led by notable QB's as Favre,Warner,Eli,Brady and Romo to name a few.
    Have Little doubts Saints defense/ offense WILL bounce back after sub par performance from Saints -Vikings fiasco, as Saints TEND to kick ass following a bye week.
    - Turn over battle will naturally be Key to success and unless it rains,it's highly unlikely to see repeat turnover performance from Vikes / saints game.
    Peyton's foresight n' game smarts will diffuse Saints blitz schemes by going to quick counts n' no huddle offense,that WILL keep Saints D off balanced.However Manning has ABSOLUTELY 
    no need to force the issue,whereabouts Brees may have to,
    even though Saints should stick to a balanced,conservative game plan to win this one without turnovers standing in the way.
    CAN'T see both teams airing it out via slugfest fashion,
    hence believe total to remain under.

    Back later...
     
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    Posted: Feb. 5, 2010 - 1:35 PM ET #196

    What does this line say" pound the colts"

    Therefore  Saints ML

    and over 56

    Pay me my

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    What does this line say" pound the colts"

    Therefore  Saints ML

    and over 56

    Pay me my

     
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    Posted: Feb. 5, 2010 - 1:59 PM ET #197

     Leaning towards the Saints ML +170.  good value there.  also liking the over 790 total net yards offense on the prop side.
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     Leaning towards the Saints ML +170.  good value there.  also liking the over 790 total net yards offense on the prop side.
     
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    Posted: Feb. 5, 2010 - 2:34 PM ET #198

    much info here,good and not so good to down right funny.my suggestion would be if you're on the colts,get 'em now before the line moves up.come game day it will probably be in the 6/7.5 range.also liking the under,everyone expecting to see the ball being aired out every other play,thus expecting a high scoring affair,i don't see that happening myself,waiting till sunday to see if we have an upward move on the over(should happen w/ all the action leaning that way)but,have already made my major plays at the 4.5/56.5 numbers!on sunday might have to put in another set depending where the final over number is.i'm in agreement with irish(i believe it was you)that there is nobody better at reading defenses and adjusting the offense/play at the line than manning,which should give indy some advantage when they have the ball.with all this said i'm going INDY/UNDER PARLAY,TEASER.N.O./UNDER TEASER and INDY minus the pts.luck to all.
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    much info here,good and not so good to down right funny.my suggestion would be if you're on the colts,get 'em now before the line moves up.come game day it will probably be in the 6/7.5 range.also liking the under,everyone expecting to see the ball being aired out every other play,thus expecting a high scoring affair,i don't see that happening myself,waiting till sunday to see if we have an upward move on the over(should happen w/ all the action leaning that way)but,have already made my major plays at the 4.5/56.5 numbers!on sunday might have to put in another set depending where the final over number is.i'm in agreement with irish(i believe it was you)that there is nobody better at reading defenses and adjusting the offense/play at the line than manning,which should give indy some advantage when they have the ball.with all this said i'm going INDY/UNDER PARLAY,TEASER.N.O./UNDER TEASER and INDY minus the pts.luck to all.
     
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    Posted: Feb. 5, 2010 - 2:40 PM ET #199

    X Factors :

    - Conservative / Balanced game plan = Limited turnovers
    - When Pierre Thomas gets + 11 carries, Saints are 11 - 0
    - Supe Dog has covered 6 of last 8

    X Mojo factor :

    With monetary,political n' global changes on sharp increase,
    Past trends have become of lesser value,paving way for first timers
    Any doubts,ask Obama.
    This + other obscure factors makes the time and place quite favorable for a Saints Maiden Bowl victory, on it's 44 th anniversary of existence,since Rozelle made the public statement in 66.

    Super Bowl 44....

    Hummm...

    Coincidence or Destiny ?


     SAINTS 27 COLTS 24

        


     Game ML + 1 st quarter SAINT lead parlay.

     UNDER 56.5

     SAINTS + 5.5

     SAINTS + 11.5 UNDER 62.5 teaser.

     Jerry Jones to get another nose job.

     Pete Townsend to smash his guitar at the half.



                               Best of Luck to All

                                          

                               Time to play ball  !

                         Last 12 coin tosses,winner of toss has lost last 9 times.

                               NFC has won last 11 tosses  

                                              

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    X Factors :

    - Conservative / Balanced game plan = Limited turnovers
    - When Pierre Thomas gets + 11 carries, Saints are 11 - 0
    - Supe Dog has covered 6 of last 8

    X Mojo factor :

    With monetary,political n' global changes on sharp increase,
    Past trends have become of lesser value,paving way for first timers
    Any doubts,ask Obama.
    This + other obscure factors makes the time and place quite favorable for a Saints Maiden Bowl victory, on it's 44 th anniversary of existence,since Rozelle made the public statement in 66.

    Super Bowl 44....

    Hummm...

    Coincidence or Destiny ?


     SAINTS 27 COLTS 24

        


     Game ML + 1 st quarter SAINT lead parlay.

     UNDER 56.5

     SAINTS + 5.5

     SAINTS + 11.5 UNDER 62.5 teaser.

     Jerry Jones to get another nose job.

     Pete Townsend to smash his guitar at the half.



                               Best of Luck to All

                                          

                               Time to play ball  !

                         Last 12 coin tosses,winner of toss has lost last 9 times.

                               NFC has won last 11 tosses  

                                              

     
     
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    Posted: Feb. 5, 2010 - 4:04 PM ET #200

    ...for the record I am 7-3 on post season picks for the teams while 1-3 on over/unders

     

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    ...for the record I am 7-3 on post season picks for the teams while 1-3 on over/unders

     

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