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Matt3174

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Posted: Jan. 4, 2014 - 7:13 PM ET #76

You can't bring up that Ok St. game, if you are any kind of gambler you know Ok St. was the right play and that was a bad beat. Yes, I am pissed about that game hahaha. But it really was just a bad beat.
Just like if Indy comes back, Damn it

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emchu

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Posted: Jan. 4, 2014 - 7:48 PM ET #77

Shochuman where art thou?! :)

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brokenleg

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Posted: Jan. 4, 2014 - 7:59 PM ET #78

Quote Originally Posted by wangichu:

So much to quibble about on this forum, but since you decided to start crap with me I'll go here.

I don't know where (if) you do your research, but the Eagles have a better offense than the saints 6.6 yards per play to 6.3 ypp for the saints, or 2nd only to Denver against the saints at 5th per football outsiders. So maybe you should look into that stuff before you bet on conjecture.

Sure the saints have the experience edge but don't underestimate how smart kelly is. experience is the only real edge for payton. and brees s certainly better than foles (not statistically, but I get it), but the eagles have a ridiculous edge in the run game wth the number 1 rushing offense vs the saints 20th rush defense, conversely the saints bring the 19th ranked rush offense against the 12th best rush defense of philly (actually surprised it's that low, noone has been running on philly). (all per Football Outsiders)

Further while the saints pass defense is 6th they just lost their safety vaccaro and are forced to play roman harper who has been terrble.

Again I don't know where you got your numbers, but the eagles are the 25th pass offense, UP from the 32nd that they were 8 games ago and if you understand defensive schemes, you would know that they switched from a 4-3 to a 3-4 this year and these kinds of changes take actual games to improve and has begun rounding into form only recently, hence the improvement, so I think you are selling them short assuming that ranking is accurate and here's why...

FO lists the eagles as the 3rd best team in football (behind broncos and seahawks) weighted for recent play. More specifically though, teams that beat the saints on the road include the jets and panthers, both who have excellent fronts and highly vulnerable secondaries. Key element, they apply QB pressure (and forced turnovers). All phlly has done during the andy reid era is draft pass rushers and they are starting to get this scheme and have been very solid recently. Meanwhile, the saints just benched their starting left tackle for a rookie as they have had O line problems. Expect brees to be under pressure all day and with philly continuing to protect the ball at an elite rate, and create a lot of turnovers, one turnover could be massive.

this non home filed advantage for philly is stupid too imo. They came into the year on a bad streak, but won their last 4 home games, so if you want to overlook the improvement of a team adjusting to new schemes and a first year coach and a better QB (foles over vick), go ahead and blindly bet the public team. I'm a fan of making money and with the line moving to philly -3, apparently, sharp bettors are with me.

EAGLES -2.5 (booked on Thursday) LARGE

What are you smoking....

The Birds have played sick teams. Brees will have fried chicken tonight...

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Quote Originally Posted by wangichu:

So much to quibble about on this forum, but since you decided to start crap with me I'll go here.

I don't know where (if) you do your research, but the Eagles have a better offense than the saints 6.6 yards per play to 6.3 ypp for the saints, or 2nd only to Denver against the saints at 5th per football outsiders. So maybe you should look into that stuff before you bet on conjecture.

Sure the saints have the experience edge but don't underestimate how smart kelly is. experience is the only real edge for payton. and brees s certainly better than foles (not statistically, but I get it), but the eagles have a ridiculous edge in the run game wth the number 1 rushing offense vs the saints 20th rush defense, conversely the saints bring the 19th ranked rush offense against the 12th best rush defense of philly (actually surprised it's that low, noone has been running on philly). (all per Football Outsiders)

Further while the saints pass defense is 6th they just lost their safety vaccaro and are forced to play roman harper who has been terrble.

Again I don't know where you got your numbers, but the eagles are the 25th pass offense, UP from the 32nd that they were 8 games ago and if you understand defensive schemes, you would know that they switched from a 4-3 to a 3-4 this year and these kinds of changes take actual games to improve and has begun rounding into form only recently, hence the improvement, so I think you are selling them short assuming that ranking is accurate and here's why...

FO lists the eagles as the 3rd best team in football (behind broncos and seahawks) weighted for recent play. More specifically though, teams that beat the saints on the road include the jets and panthers, both who have excellent fronts and highly vulnerable secondaries. Key element, they apply QB pressure (and forced turnovers). All phlly has done during the andy reid era is draft pass rushers and they are starting to get this scheme and have been very solid recently. Meanwhile, the saints just benched their starting left tackle for a rookie as they have had O line problems. Expect brees to be under pressure all day and with philly continuing to protect the ball at an elite rate, and create a lot of turnovers, one turnover could be massive.

this non home filed advantage for philly is stupid too imo. They came into the year on a bad streak, but won their last 4 home games, so if you want to overlook the improvement of a team adjusting to new schemes and a first year coach and a better QB (foles over vick), go ahead and blindly bet the public team. I'm a fan of making money and with the line moving to philly -3, apparently, sharp bettors are with me.

EAGLES -2.5 (booked on Thursday) LARGE

What are you smoking....

The Birds have played sick teams. Brees will have fried chicken tonight...

MRDONTHOOKME

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Posted: Jan. 4, 2014 - 8:07 PM ET #79

TAKE THE UNDER VEGAS WOULD LOVE FOR IT TO COME IN AND SO WOULD I !!!!!!

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Telefrog

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Posted: Jan. 4, 2014 - 8:19 PM ET #80

[Quote: Originally Posted by EAGLESNATION8]

Foles did not look panicked at all in that game he was under severe pressure the entire time and did everything he had to in a won or go home game. Did you even watch bozo?

Not trying to be offensive sir, but no one with any intelligence takes you serious because of your handle. You are obviously a homer and some of us could care less about being a fan-we are on here to make money. just saying…

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Telefrog

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Posted: Jan. 4, 2014 - 8:22 PM ET #81

btw….the Quad knows what he's talking about. I've been on here since 2004 and I've seen many come and go and he gives great insight and leaves "my team" bullshit at home. He liked the Colts today and so did I. He likes the Saints and I like that too. I think the Saints win fairly easy if there is such a thing these days:)

GLA!

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SausageTitz

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Posted: Jan. 4, 2014 - 9:07 PM ET #82

As much as a F.uckead as I am....I feel for Y'all UNDER backers...Git ur money back tomorrow and take San Fran

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SausageTitz

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Posts: 840

Posted: Jan. 4, 2014 - 9:10 PM ET #83

Excuse me.......I meant I feel sorry for u OVER backers, sry I'm drunk

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brokenleg

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Posted: Jan. 4, 2014 - 9:55 PM ET #84

Most disgusting game... Payton/Brees are bunch of crooks!!

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TheQuadYeah

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Posts: 1827

Posted: Jan. 4, 2014 - 11:28 PM ET #85

Quote Originally Posted by Telefrog:

btw….the Quad knows what he's talking about. I've been on here since 2004 and I've seen many come and go and he gives great insight and leaves "my team" bullshit at home. He liked the Colts today and so did I. He likes the Saints and I like that too. I think the Saints win fairly easy if there is such a thing these days:)

GLA!

- I don't know Telefrog personally, but he sounds like an extremely smart, well educated, good looking man.......

TW DWN........

TW T G!!!!!!

See Y'all Mañana!!!!!!!!!!

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