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I will be betting....
 
DA BEARS Moneyline....
 
3 is a little to much to give to Brees and Company.... but I
am confident DA BEARS will take it at home....
 
leaning towards the OVER as well.... but with a slick ball you could see many dropped passes like the Giants-Eagles game.... so I'll be staying away from the total...
 
Saints draw play won't work against DA BEARS
 
this is my post from last nights game.... for some reason I am on fire right now.... I usually don't brag about my right picks.... but I would ride me for a short time if I were you....
these were my bets......
I took the Eagles....
Panthers... and the OVER
Bears ML.... (last minute victory)
Pitt.... (last minute victory)

the only game I lost last week was the JETS.... and that's what you get for betting with your own team on the road.....
I like the GMEN... but seriously my hands are so hot my keyboard is burning up....
 
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The over in this game is the play here
 
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Quote Originally Posted by Spytheweb:



Well dencol, didn't know there are many of us left around. I have been a fan since 1962. I grew up in Westfield, New Jersey, in another life. Some Dallas Cowbilly fan tried to tell me he was a fan longer than i been alive. Turns out i have been a fan longer than he's been alive. There's no Cowbilly fan on the planet who's been a fan longer than i been alive. I have seen alot of games, alot of history. Both of my sons are Giant fans too.




Hey Bro,,
I am with you, all the way back to Yankee Stadium and the Yale Bowl..I think I saw Cleveland kick our ass 63 - 0 or something like that...Anyway nothing better than the LT years...Bye the way he is on WFAN today between 2-5 pm with fat Mike Francessa.

On to this game..you gotta love the Cowgirls fighting amongst themselves...TrOuble is crying and splitting up the offense while Bum Phillips waits for the phone call from JJ...The more I think of it the more I love this game....Lets put the Cowgirls and their feetie pajama wearing fans to bed for the year....
GO BIG BLUE
 
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Quote Originally Posted by BreakaBookie:

I dunno... the people I know don't like the eagles and don't like the redskins.... they are in the same division... but they have this HATRED for the Cowboys.... nothing is sweeter to them than to end the Cowboys season... I would assume the same for the Giants team.... I mean last years playoff game was close.... I think this is a big game for the Gmen only because they eliminate one of the best teams in the NFC... they are already going to playoffs... plus if they win this game they can cruise


This is the biggest game of the year For BIG BLUE...When we stomp the Cowgirls and lock up home field it will be sweet..
 
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The wheels are coming off the wagon, now it's Newman.

"Players make the plays, they give up the plays, they take the blame for that," Newman said. "When coaches make mistakes around here, there's nothing said about it. They just go and try to diffuse it, and try to put that blame on somebody else, rather than owning up to it. I think that's one of the things that's hurting us as a team, players just not owning up to things that happened, as well as coaches."



Good teams win games, Great teams cover the spread!
 
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NY Giants +3
 
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Jacobs out...That hurts a lot...he is a bruiser and demolishes defenses by the end of the game...
Still dont like the Cowgirls but I dont love the over as much either...
 
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no plaxico, no jacobs...................dallas then
 
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How could U not take the G-Men with +3???
 
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I see T.O. is starting his bullshit again. And players are questioning if he broke off his pattern the wrong way on purpose on the 1st int. Romo threw. Cut his ass now. He ruined the 49ers and Eagles. Don't like him, never did...
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
That would be really really stupid to cut T.O.  Let's think about this logically.  Is Dallas losing because of TO?  no, forget that...hell no.  You've got Wade Phillips, Jerry Jones, Pacman Jones, Romo's injury, Newman's injury, Barber's injury....etc to blame before you even get to TO.  It's intersting that you mentioned the 49ers and Philly.  What did TO do so wrong there?   Let's look at the facts.  San Fran let go of TO back in what 03 and 04...and look at has happened since then.  San Fran replaced TO with Rashaun Woods ...a 1st round pick (31st overall) who isn't even in the league now!   wow, that worked out pretty good.  (yes, I know San Fran has horrible ownership and got rid of alot more players besides TO like Jeff Garcia...but Owens being replaced by a rookie?  really?).  and let's not even talk about Philly.  TO led Philly to their 1st SB in over 2 decades....and he got rewarded with a big FU very much when all he asked for was his market value.  Think about it.  What other enterainer do you know, musician, actor etc......does great and doesn't get paid in the top 10 in their field when they play like it?  That would be like NBC refusing to give Seinfield a raise after his show went from not even being in the top 20, to # 1 overalll....for years.  now TO is at Dallas.  It would be foolish and moronic to even think about getting rid of TO when all he does is make big plays. and guess what?  the Dallas Defensive players agree with him.  Yes, Dallas needs to cut some dead weight...but what about getting rid of   1) Roy Williams safety (this guy just isn't bad, but Dallas doesn't really need him now with Terrance Newman and Ken Hamlin, plus there appears to be bad blood there),  2) Pacman Jones (nuff said), and maybe 3) coach Wade Phillips.  If Dallas doesn't make the playoffs....or even the NFC title game it would be hard to keep this guy around.      yeah TO has been known for dropping balls, but a recent article in Sporting News had TO ranked as the # 6 best WR right now.  WTF?  Why would you get rid of that?  plus, have you ever heard of TO getting in trouble for breaking the law?    I haven't.  yeah, he's an asshole and there was that Suicide/or wasn't a suicide attempt, but give the man credit for not being a crackhead/attempted murderer like Michael Irvin.  Dallas fans know Romo and Owens are the backbone of the team and that TO isn't going anywhere any time soon as long as he can still catch the long ball.  and I haven't seen much evidence of TO not being an elite reciever.  Again...look at Philly and San Fran.  after 3 yrs neither PHilly or SF has replaced TO.   Sorry, but it just seems pretty downright silly to even think about getting rid of TO from Dallas.  Especially if you are a Dallas fan. 
 
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as far as distractions T.O is just as big of a distraction as Plax, the giants have been winning for a couple years now despite his antics. lets face it the giants are a better team even without jacobs, ward and bradshaw are just as capable and more explosive. not to mention tony romo is overrated and has yet to prove that he is a great quarter back, look for him to be pressured fumbling and throwing picks like usual. GMEN with the points!
 
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TO destroys the harmony of teams, SF and Phil.  No question he has talent but at what cost?  He is only one piece of the puzzle needed to win championships.  At last count he has none, and Dallas ain't making the playoffs, their schedule is brutal.  Giants the better team and Eli the better qb to me,  Romo has Jessica so who cares about play-offs. Play-offs, what play-offs!
 
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Give me two good reasons I should believe that NYG will lose 2 games in a row... I thought all along PHI should've been the number 2 team in the NFC east and now Reid finally started running the ball and surprise... PHI can beat anybody. I don't fault NYG at all for that loss. DAL overated, have been since Tony Romo came to DAL. N they have a lot of holes on that D. Romo will have 2 bad weeks in a row.
NYG +3      
 Dal + TO, Pacman, Phillips =
 
 
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Quote Originally Posted by dddevin69:

I see T.O. is starting his bullshit again. And players are questioning if he broke off his pattern the wrong way on purpose on the 1st int. Romo threw. Cut his ass now. He ruined the 49ers and Eagles. Don't like him, never did...
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
That would be really really stupid to cut T.O.  Let's think about this logically.  Is Dallas losing because of TO?  no, forget that...hell no.  You've got Wade Phillips, Jerry Jones, Pacman Jones, Romo's injury, Newman's injury, Barber's injury....etc to blame before you even get to TO.  It's intersting that you mentioned the 49ers and Philly.  What did TO do so wrong there?   Let's look at the facts.  San Fran let go of TO back in what 03 and 04...and look at has happened since then.  San Fran replaced TO with Rashaun Woods ...a 1st round pick (31st overall) who isn't even in the league now!   wow, that worked out pretty good.  (yes, I know San Fran has horrible ownership and got rid of alot more players besides TO like Jeff Garcia...but Owens being replaced by a rookie?  really?).  and let's not even talk about Philly.  TO led Philly to their 1st SB in over 2 decades....and he got rewarded with a big FU very much when all he asked for was his market value.  Think about it.  What other enterainer do you know, musician, actor etc......does great and doesn't get paid in the top 10 in their field when they play like it?  That would be like NBC refusing to give Seinfield a raise after his show went from not even being in the top 20, to # 1 overalll....for years.  now TO is at Dallas.  It would be foolish and moronic to even think about getting rid of TO when all he does is make big plays. and guess what?  the Dallas Defensive players agree with him.  Yes, Dallas needs to cut some dead weight...but what about getting rid of   1) Roy Williams safety (this guy just isn't bad, but Dallas doesn't really need him now with Terrance Newman and Ken Hamlin, plus there appears to be bad blood there),  2) Pacman Jones (nuff said), and maybe 3) coach Wade Phillips.  If Dallas doesn't make the playoffs....or even the NFC title game it would be hard to keep this guy around.      yeah TO has been known for dropping balls, but a recent article in Sporting News had TO ranked as the # 6 best WR right now.  WTF?  Why would you get rid of that?  plus, have you ever heard of TO getting in trouble for breaking the law?    I haven't.  yeah, he's an asshole and there was that Suicide/or wasn't a suicide attempt, but give the man credit for not being a crackhead/attempted murderer like Michael Irvin.  Dallas fans know Romo and Owens are the backbone of the team and that TO isn't going anywhere any time soon as long as he can still catch the long ball.  and I haven't seen much evidence of TO not being an elite reciever.  Again...look at Philly and San Fran.  after 3 yrs neither PHilly or SF has replaced TO.   Sorry, but it just seems pretty downright silly to even think about getting rid of TO from Dallas.  Especially if you are a Dallas fan. 




Forget that whole waste of time Bull...What has this moron won...Wherever this selfish SOB goes he wrecks the team.. When he signed with the Cowgirls id was the best thing that happened to the GIANTS since LT

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I live in Texas and I would just like to say that  Cowboys fans are literally the biggest homers in the world when it comes to their team.  Its so disgusting its fucking hilarious!!! I absolutely LOVE all the drama that is going on in Dallas right now. You know why? Because Jerry Jones fucking ASKED for it.  Look at all the egos/degenerates he's hired.  This guy is Al Davis sans the play calling. Giants + 3???? These guys only kick ass and they still get no respect.  Their players go down and they still execute.  I only think they lost to the eagles because of their own drama with Plax's dumbass. Dallas players are lacking so much in the heart department that if they go 3 and out on their first drive this game is OVER. Another thing I would like to point out to homer dallas fans making an arguement for their girls because of how the d played against the steelers. Really? against the NFL's 25th ranked offense? Did you notice how well the Steelers moved the ball once they started PASSING on them??? TO opened the floodgates...stick a fork in them. Gmen have enough motivation simply because their mosted hated rival is down and Tom Coughlin will have HIS boys show up with steel-toe boots. Thank you for the early x-mas gift TO!!! He's such a school girl!!!!!!


 
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Give me two good reasons I should believe that NYG will lose 2 games in a row... I thought all along PHI should've been the number 2 team in the NFC east and now Reid finally started running the ball and surprise... PHI can beat anybody. I don't fault NYG at all for that loss. DAL overated, have been since Tony Romo came to DAL. N they have a lot of holes on that D. Romo will have 2 bad weeks in a row.
NYG +3      
 Dal + TO, Pacman, Phillips =
 
 
 
 
Good question Matt.   Matt, I really do respect your opinion..especially on the OU v Florida thread.
 
 
1) It's in Dallas-  Dallas plays really good at home.  remember,  Dallas beat Tampa with Brad Johnson at qb.  Tampa is still being touted as a good Defensive team
 
 
2) Injuries to Giants players.  some are saying Giants need the Panthers game more than they need the Dallas game.
 
 
I'm not promising a Dallas win, I'm just saying I wouldn't be surprised.  I seriously woult not consider a Giants win a done deal by any means.  in fact, I expect Dallas to win 2 of their nxt 3 games to get a wildcard spot and would not be surprised at all if dallas wins 3 in a row. Think about it.  If Dallas beats NY tom.....why can't they beat the ravens with a rookie qb and the inconsistent eagles?  I'm thinking Dallas beats NY, then Balt, then loses a close one with Philly.  just my prediction
 
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Quote Originally Posted by Dirty_Dishes:

I live in Texas and I would just like to say that  Cowboys fans are literally the biggest homers in the world when it comes to their team.  Its so disgusting its fucking hilarious!!! I absolutely LOVE all the drama that is going on in Dallas right now. You know why? Because Jerry Jones fucking ASKED for it.  Look at all the egos/degenerates he's hired.  This guy is Al Davis sans the play calling. Giants + 3???? These guys only kick ass and they still get no respect.  Their players go down and they still execute.  I only think they lost to the eagles because of their own drama with Plax's dumbass. Dallas players are lacking so much in the heart department that if they go 3 and out on their first drive this game is OVER. Another thing I would like to point out to homer dallas fans making an arguement for their girls because of how the d played against the steelers. Really? against the NFL's 25th ranked offense? Did you notice how well the Steelers moved the ball once they started PASSING on them??? TO opened the floodgates...stick a fork in them. Gmen have enough motivation simply because their mosted hated rival is down and Tom Coughlin will have HIS boys show up with steel-toe boots. Thank you for the early x-mas gift TO!!! He's such a school girl!!!!!!


Could not have said it any better myself bro!  

 
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I am taking the gmen +10 in a two team teaser along with either New England or Pitt.  Any thoughts will be appreciated.  Yes I know teasers are garbage but really see a good chance of the Giants and Pitt winning the games straight up and getting a 10 point cushion looks very tempting.  I need someone to talk me out of this teaser, thanks in advance.
 
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Teasers are not garbage...if u dont feel strong either way tease it! That's what I did for the saints v bears game on thursday...I liked the bears and the over. Lots of different things scared me (drew brees against a banged up secondary) so i teased to get the saints +9 and over 39.5....I got this play at -110. This makes is basically like a flat play on either side with GREAT lines.  Two team teasers r $$$....at the end of the day you need good analysis and logic to win....all bets are sucker bets if you dont know what you are doing!!!
 
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dddevine69... There are other reasons why Dallas is not playing up to their potential this year, and it starts at the top. Jerk-off Jerry Jones creates a circus atmosphere with all the BS he tolerates. He will never get a good coach back in Dallas unless he agrees to stay away and let him coach. He thinks he built the Cowboys 90's teams when all he did was sign the paychecks and let Jimmy coach. Now he's like, just sign marque names so he can sell their jerseys. Why do you think Parcells left? T.O. is a cancer. He is an insecure egomaniac who will stab anyone in the back to get his way. Fuck him...
 
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One of the best things about the GIANTS putting an end to the Cowgirls season, is not how they will all bitch at each other or how JJ will fire the inept Bum Phillips, or how I win 2k on the game...Noooo..

The single most fun thing about the GIANTS win will be knowing that DD Deviant has lost his money.

 
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HOW bout THEM COWBOYS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
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The Giants road record speaks for itself, and anyone counting on less than a full effort are misguided.  The loss to the Iggles will have the G-Men focused and ready.
 
 
 
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Hey Devin. Injuries are a big concern for NYG, but truth is that you never want to lose confidence or momentum in professional sports. Or any sport for that matter. Also this is the same Tom Coughlin who played all his guys last year in an attempt to stop the Pats udefeated season and he thought it might be a good learning experience. Paid off pretty well. Why not go ahead and knock off your division opponent and try to keep them out of the playoffs all together? How about the bad blood you could generate from PHI and WAS if you do decide to just pack it in. Also my personal opinion is that Coughlin know's there is no way he can give his starters the week off and expect the team to just pick up like two losses never happened. And lastly NYG need 2 conf wins to lock up the NFC, if they lose to DAL and slip n lose 2 CAR, they'll both be 8-3(NFC) n find themselves having to play for first place the last game of the season. My guess there's more initiative to win this game as it's the first on the schedule. BOL

 
 
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I'm taking the Giants plus the points. I should be hit by lightning for such blasphomy. Giants always play hard, always play like they have something to prove. Almost a mirror image of the Cowboys before Jerry Jones got full of himself. Less talent but more will to win. The LT giants. And this is from a Cowboy fan thats been rooting for them since 1966...
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