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    Philadelphia at Chicago (09/28/2008)

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    Mr_Covers
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    Posted: Sep. 23, 2008 - 1:15 AM ET #1

    Away:  Philadelphia [3-0 ATS]
    Home:  Chicago [1-1-1 ATS]

    Game Time: 8:15 PM
    Stadium: Soldier Field

    Recent Meetings:
    N/A

    Team Leaders:

    Philadelphia:
    Passing: Donovan McNabb (838)
    Rushing: Brian Westbrook (161)
    Receiving: DeSean Jackson (256)

    Chicago:
    Passing: Kyle Orton (567)
    Rushing: Matt Forte (304)
    Receiving: Brandon Lloyd (216)

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    Away:  Philadelphia [3-0 ATS]
    Home:  Chicago [1-1-1 ATS]

    Game Time: 8:15 PM
    Stadium: Soldier Field

    Recent Meetings:
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    Team Leaders:

    Philadelphia:
    Passing: Donovan McNabb (838)
    Rushing: Brian Westbrook (161)
    Receiving: DeSean Jackson (256)

    Chicago:
    Passing: Kyle Orton (567)
    Rushing: Matt Forte (304)
    Receiving: Brandon Lloyd (216)

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    tonktime
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    Posted: Sep. 23, 2008 - 10:23 AM ET #2

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    Posted: Sep. 24, 2008 - 3:55 PM ET #3

    Vegas is thinking how to put the line on this game to get some chicago action. Because its gonna be PHILLY in a BLOWOUT. BLOWOUT!
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    Vegas is thinking how to put the line on this game to get some chicago action. Because its gonna be PHILLY in a BLOWOUT. BLOWOUT!
     
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    Posted: Sep. 24, 2008 - 7:21 PM ET #4

    this should be an old fashioned ass whoopin' - Eagles by at least 17
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    this should be an old fashioned ass whoopin' - Eagles by at least 17
     
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    Posted: Sep. 24, 2008 - 11:55 PM ET #5

    3? Thats a scary line...I dont know about this one
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    3? Thats a scary line...I dont know about this one
     
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    Posted: Sep. 25, 2008 - 12:02 AM ET #6

    Sorry fellas dont think this is the best spot for a phily all in.  They just finished two tough games.  One draining and one bang out drag out tough game.  The best thing phily got going for them is that monster of a punter that bailed them out v Pitt.  Anyone who watched that game with their bankroll on the line since Denver blew it know what im talking bout!!!!  

    Im going to be looking for the Bears D to be all over the place and the Westbrook look alike Forte to put it all out there.  I know for a fact Orton will not throw the game away like he did v TB.
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    Sorry fellas dont think this is the best spot for a phily all in.  They just finished two tough games.  One draining and one bang out drag out tough game.  The best thing phily got going for them is that monster of a punter that bailed them out v Pitt.  Anyone who watched that game with their bankroll on the line since Denver blew it know what im talking bout!!!!  

    Im going to be looking for the Bears D to be all over the place and the Westbrook look alike Forte to put it all out there.  I know for a fact Orton will not throw the game away like he did v TB.
     
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    Posted: Sep. 25, 2008 - 11:49 AM ET #7

    Forte better be on his game, because the Eagles secondary and Jim Johnsons's pass rush be shutting down the weak pass game that the bears bring to the table
     
    Birds by 7
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    Forte better be on his game, because the Eagles secondary and Jim Johnsons's pass rush be shutting down the weak pass game that the bears bring to the table
     
    Birds by 7
     
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    Posted: Sep. 25, 2008 - 12:01 PM ET #8

    VERY CONFUSED as to why this spread is not -7.5 or -8?? I can only assume it's because both Donovan and Westbrook are mildly injured. It's almost a sure thing that Donovan will be back in time for the game but neither practiced yesterday. Not worried about Westbrook as Buckhalter will fill that role just fine. If Donovan practices today and feels fine, LAY IN BIG to this one.
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    VERY CONFUSED as to why this spread is not -7.5 or -8?? I can only assume it's because both Donovan and Westbrook are mildly injured. It's almost a sure thing that Donovan will be back in time for the game but neither practiced yesterday. Not worried about Westbrook as Buckhalter will fill that role just fine. If Donovan practices today and feels fine, LAY IN BIG to this one.
     
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    Posted: Sep. 25, 2008 - 3:41 PM ET #9

    Fuck it, Bears moneyline for just a little. Got a weird feeling about the eagles offense this week not being able to score at all. And you know how those bears can be. Fumbles, interceptions, special teams...this week its all going to go their way. And thats why vegas made the line so low...they got all the money on the eagles and they're gonna clean up on primetime football. Bears ML
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    Fuck it, Bears moneyline for just a little. Got a weird feeling about the eagles offense this week not being able to score at all. And you know how those bears can be. Fumbles, interceptions, special teams...this week its all going to go their way. And thats why vegas made the line so low...they got all the money on the eagles and they're gonna clean up on primetime football. Bears ML
     
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    Posted: Sep. 25, 2008 - 4:07 PM ET #10

    Eagles big in this game. The Eagles D should get back to the blitzing ways and pressure K. Orton all day!
    The only question I have is how good will B. Westbrook feel by game time and will he play. If he doesn't I think C. Buckhalter will fill in nicely. 
     
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    Eagles big in this game. The Eagles D should get back to the blitzing ways and pressure K. Orton all day!
    The only question I have is how good will B. Westbrook feel by game time and will he play. If he doesn't I think C. Buckhalter will fill in nicely. 
     
     
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    Posted: Sep. 25, 2008 - 6:28 PM ET #11

    A sucker punch happens when a person is looking one way and gets clobbered with a punch he never saw coming.
     
    One look at the moneyline for this game tells me all that I need to know. A 3 point favorite in football should have a moneyline of -155, and the dog should have a moneyline of +135. Okay. The Eagles are favored by 3, but the moneyline is -170 for Philly and +150 for the Bears. The Eagles are overvalued 15 cents on the dollar, and therefore not a good play. Combine that with the public numbers of 96% on the Philly side and 88% for Philly on the moneyline, and the sucker punch is in full effect. In this game the books will clean up getting false favorite money with the soft "3" AND inflated moneyline paydays.
     
    Chicago Bears +3.5 (buying the hook)
    Chicago Bears moneyline +150 or more
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    A sucker punch happens when a person is looking one way and gets clobbered with a punch he never saw coming.
     
    One look at the moneyline for this game tells me all that I need to know. A 3 point favorite in football should have a moneyline of -155, and the dog should have a moneyline of +135. Okay. The Eagles are favored by 3, but the moneyline is -170 for Philly and +150 for the Bears. The Eagles are overvalued 15 cents on the dollar, and therefore not a good play. Combine that with the public numbers of 96% on the Philly side and 88% for Philly on the moneyline, and the sucker punch is in full effect. In this game the books will clean up getting false favorite money with the soft "3" AND inflated moneyline paydays.
     
    Chicago Bears +3.5 (buying the hook)
    Chicago Bears moneyline +150 or more
     
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    Posted: Sep. 25, 2008 - 9:04 PM ET #12

    Quote Originally Posted by MikeMagz:

    3? Thats a scary line...I dont know about this one


    Yeah, scary - the line should be more like 13 - are ya kidding me?? This is the pick of the week!! Eagles roll, and at least I'll be able to watch the game.......
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    Quote Originally Posted by MikeMagz:

    3? Thats a scary line...I dont know about this one


    Yeah, scary - the line should be more like 13 - are ya kidding me?? This is the pick of the week!! Eagles roll, and at least I'll be able to watch the game.......
     
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    Posted: Sep. 25, 2008 - 10:33 PM ET #13

    eagles 'd' will shut down the bears...#1 vs. run this year. handled willie parker, marion barber, and steven jackson. kyle orton will be laying on his back, unable to complete passes.  on 'o' mcnabb always puts on a show for his hometown. also, last week the bucs put up 67 (!?!) passes vs. the bears....weren't sacked once.
    EAGLES 27  BEARS   10
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    eagles 'd' will shut down the bears...#1 vs. run this year. handled willie parker, marion barber, and steven jackson. kyle orton will be laying on his back, unable to complete passes.  on 'o' mcnabb always puts on a show for his hometown. also, last week the bucs put up 67 (!?!) passes vs. the bears....weren't sacked once.
    EAGLES 27  BEARS   10
     
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    Posted: Sep. 25, 2008 - 10:52 PM ET #14

    Eagles 31 Bears 13
     
    Eagles roll...
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    Eagles 31 Bears 13
     
    Eagles roll...
     
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    Posted: Sep. 26, 2008 - 3:25 AM ET #15

    Eagles
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    Eagles
     
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    Posted: Sep. 26, 2008 - 1:38 PM ET #16

    Bears all the way. Mcnabb will be rusty after not practicing all week. The Bears threw for over 400 yards vs. a  good Bucs D. Home field advantage.

    Bears D is very good again and without Westbrook Mcnabb is going to have to shoulder the load.

    Bears are a good Teaser play.
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    Bears all the way. Mcnabb will be rusty after not practicing all week. The Bears threw for over 400 yards vs. a  good Bucs D. Home field advantage.

    Bears D is very good again and without Westbrook Mcnabb is going to have to shoulder the load.

    Bears are a good Teaser play.
     
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    Posted: Sep. 26, 2008 - 1:43 PM ET #17

    Correction that was the Bucs who threw for 400, but my pick stands.
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    Correction that was the Bucs who threw for 400, but my pick stands.
     
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    Posted: Sep. 26, 2008 - 3:43 PM ET #18

    EAGLES ROLL!!!   Westbrook is playing..... they will be able to stop the Bears Run... put the ball in Ortons hands... I don't think this will even be close 
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    EAGLES ROLL!!!   Westbrook is playing..... they will be able to stop the Bears Run... put the ball in Ortons hands... I don't think this will even be close 
     
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    Posted: Sep. 26, 2008 - 4:24 PM ET #19

    Birds by a touchdown...easy.
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    Birds by a touchdown...easy.
     
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    Posted: Sep. 26, 2008 - 6:34 PM ET #20

    Quote Originally Posted by Doctor-effin-J:

    eagles 'd' will shut down the bears...#1 vs. run this year. handled willie parker, marion barber, and steven jackson. kyle orton will be laying on his back, unable to complete passes.  on 'o' mcnabb always puts on a show for his hometown. also, last week the bucs put up 67 (!?!) passes vs. the bears....weren't sacked once.
    EAGLES 27  BEARS   10

    exactly... the eagles are better in just about all facets than the bucs... better blitzers, at LEAST as good in the backfield (giving ronde a LOT of credit), and way better at run stuffing, which is the bear's best gameplan.  McNabb is way better than griese, westbrook is a more dynamic talent than anyone on the bucs and their underrated receiving core is solid too.  Add to all that, I believe the bears beat the eagles last year and I guarantee they are hungry for payback.  Bears are a defensive based team up against a superior defense.  I think the line was so low because of the potential injuries of mcnabb and westbrook, but they're both probable or in... also that late line had to be because they knew where public money was going and didn't want it there.

    Eagles -3

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doctor-effin-J:

    eagles 'd' will shut down the bears...#1 vs. run this year. handled willie parker, marion barber, and steven jackson. kyle orton will be laying on his back, unable to complete passes.  on 'o' mcnabb always puts on a show for his hometown. also, last week the bucs put up 67 (!?!) passes vs. the bears....weren't sacked once.
    EAGLES 27  BEARS   10

    exactly... the eagles are better in just about all facets than the bucs... better blitzers, at LEAST as good in the backfield (giving ronde a LOT of credit), and way better at run stuffing, which is the bear's best gameplan.  McNabb is way better than griese, westbrook is a more dynamic talent than anyone on the bucs and their underrated receiving core is solid too.  Add to all that, I believe the bears beat the eagles last year and I guarantee they are hungry for payback.  Bears are a defensive based team up against a superior defense.  I think the line was so low because of the potential injuries of mcnabb and westbrook, but they're both probable or in... also that late line had to be because they knew where public money was going and didn't want it there.

    Eagles -3

     
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    Posted: Sep. 26, 2008 - 8:38 PM ET #21

    id take the eagles -10 if the line was that high.
    fuck, id take the eagles -17 if the line was that high and if they played without westbrook and mcnabb
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    id take the eagles -10 if the line was that high.
    fuck, id take the eagles -17 if the line was that high and if they played without westbrook and mcnabb
     
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    Posted: Sep. 26, 2008 - 10:51 PM ET #22

    keep bettin the Eagles people. Its too funny. EVERYONE and their mothers are bettin the eagles and look at the line...3! It should have gone up at least a half of a point by now.

    Vegas cleans up, along with myself and the other smart crowd.

    Dont look at the stats, dont look at the records, or the trends, or whos playing and whos not. Everything aside, take the Bears. They'll own this game.
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    keep bettin the Eagles people. Its too funny. EVERYONE and their mothers are bettin the eagles and look at the line...3! It should have gone up at least a half of a point by now.

    Vegas cleans up, along with myself and the other smart crowd.

    Dont look at the stats, dont look at the records, or the trends, or whos playing and whos not. Everything aside, take the Bears. They'll own this game.
     
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    Posted: Sep. 26, 2008 - 11:24 PM ET #23

    PHI -3

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    PHI -3

     
    DiscoD69
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    Posted: Sep. 27, 2008 - 1:44 AM ET #24

    Quote Originally Posted by Watch:

    A sucker punch happens when a person is looking one way and gets clobbered with a punch he never saw coming.
     
    One look at the moneyline for this game tells me all that I need to know. A 3 point favorite in football should have a moneyline of -155, and the dog should have a moneyline of +135. Okay. The Eagles are favored by 3, but the moneyline is -170 for Philly and +150 for the Bears. The Eagles are overvalued 15 cents on the dollar, and therefore not a good play. Combine that with the public numbers of 96% on the Philly side and 88% for Philly on the moneyline, and the sucker punch is in full effect. In this game the books will clean up getting false favorite money with the soft "3" AND inflated moneyline paydays.
     
    Chicago Bears +3.5 (buying the hook)
    Chicago Bears moneyline +150 or more

    I understand exactly what you're saying but the juice is because of how hard Philly got hit out of the gate. There is much more Philly action but moving the line to 3.5 means a huge middle opportunity to anyone who got it below a FG. I think it's Philly action more than anything.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Watch:

    A sucker punch happens when a person is looking one way and gets clobbered with a punch he never saw coming.
     
    One look at the moneyline for this game tells me all that I need to know. A 3 point favorite in football should have a moneyline of -155, and the dog should have a moneyline of +135. Okay. The Eagles are favored by 3, but the moneyline is -170 for Philly and +150 for the Bears. The Eagles are overvalued 15 cents on the dollar, and therefore not a good play. Combine that with the public numbers of 96% on the Philly side and 88% for Philly on the moneyline, and the sucker punch is in full effect. In this game the books will clean up getting false favorite money with the soft "3" AND inflated moneyline paydays.
     
    Chicago Bears +3.5 (buying the hook)
    Chicago Bears moneyline +150 or more

    I understand exactly what you're saying but the juice is because of how hard Philly got hit out of the gate. There is much more Philly action but moving the line to 3.5 means a huge middle opportunity to anyone who got it below a FG. I think it's Philly action more than anything.

     
     
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    Posted: Sep. 27, 2008 - 1:50 AM ET #25

    Quote Originally Posted by MikeMagz:

    keep bettin the Eagles people. Its too funny. EVERYONE and their mothers are bettin the eagles and look at the line...3! It should have gone up at least a half of a point by now.

    Vegas cleans up, along with myself and the other smart crowd.

    Dont look at the stats, dont look at the records, or the trends, or whos playing and whos not. Everything aside, take the Bears. They'll own this game.



    No, the line hasn't gone up because MikeMagz and other people like him are living in this dreamworld where the Bears can put points on the board. Did you see what Philly's defense did last week to the Steelers? And Big Ben can at least throw the ball! Or the prior week to everybody's Superbowl bound Cowboys (of which the Cowboys didn't win - Philly Lost)? Everybody knows the formula - shut down the Bears running game, and it's like taking the bullets out of a gun - you're just left with a useless empty shell that won't hurt anybody. Eagles win - BIG........
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    Quote Originally Posted by MikeMagz:

    keep bettin the Eagles people. Its too funny. EVERYONE and their mothers are bettin the eagles and look at the line...3! It should have gone up at least a half of a point by now.

    Vegas cleans up, along with myself and the other smart crowd.

    Dont look at the stats, dont look at the records, or the trends, or whos playing and whos not. Everything aside, take the Bears. They'll own this game.



    No, the line hasn't gone up because MikeMagz and other people like him are living in this dreamworld where the Bears can put points on the board. Did you see what Philly's defense did last week to the Steelers? And Big Ben can at least throw the ball! Or the prior week to everybody's Superbowl bound Cowboys (of which the Cowboys didn't win - Philly Lost)? Everybody knows the formula - shut down the Bears running game, and it's like taking the bullets out of a gun - you're just left with a useless empty shell that won't hurt anybody. Eagles win - BIG........
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