This line for the game reminds me of how last year the Patriots were a covering machine until they started being assigned numbers that they couldn't possibly cover. Those backers that were stuffing their pockets soon lost it all back.
Seattle just has the Giants number for whatever reason. Yet in spite of that the Giants were made 7 point favorites and are playing without their best receiver (Plaxico). The Seahawks on the other hand have suddenly got healthy and receivers Engram and Branch are back in the fold along with right tackle Locklear. Holmgren has had time for them to work on their pass defense as well over the bye, but it won't be as urgent a matter with the Giants only having old ass receivers to throw to with Plaxico out.
Another issue that I see is that the line started out at 7.5 on most books including mine and dropped to 7 on some with 94% of the early returns on the Giants. The moneyline is off as well, with -330 for the Giants and +270 for the Seahawks, and it should be -360 and +280 respectively.
This is Seattle's second visit to the meadowlands, so they should have a better familiarity with the atmosphere.
I expect to be of the minority on this wager just the same as I was on the Cheifs last weekend. Sorry to say folks that I am going to take the points and add a hook for this game making my spread +7.5 and also playing the Seattle moneyline as well, as given the history of these teams they have a better chance of winning this game than the Giants do.
Seattle +7.5 (keeping the hook)
Seattle moneyline +270 or more depending upon public donations
This line for the game reminds me of how last year the Patriots were a covering machine until they started being assigned numbers that they couldn't possibly cover. Those backers that were stuffing their pockets soon lost it all back.
Seattle just has the Giants number for whatever reason. Yet in spite of that the Giants were made 7 point favorites and are playing without their best receiver (Plaxico). The Seahawks on the other hand have suddenly got healthy and receivers Engram and Branch are back in the fold along with right tackle Locklear. Holmgren has had time for them to work on their pass defense as well over the bye, but it won't be as urgent a matter with the Giants only having old ass receivers to throw to with Plaxico out.
Another issue that I see is that the line started out at 7.5 on most books including mine and dropped to 7 on some with 94% of the early returns on the Giants. The moneyline is off as well, with -330 for the Giants and +270 for the Seahawks, and it should be -360 and +280 respectively.
This is Seattle's second visit to the meadowlands, so they should have a better familiarity with the atmosphere.
I expect to be of the minority on this wager just the same as I was on the Cheifs last weekend. Sorry to say folks that I am going to take the points and add a hook for this game making my spread +7.5 and also playing the Seattle moneyline as well, as given the history of these teams they have a better chance of winning this game than the Giants do.
Seattle +7.5 (keeping the hook)
Seattle moneyline +270 or more depending upon public donations
The Giants have been flat at home for awhile now. This likely leads many to suspect that the Seahawks will cover.
However, Seattle often looks very flat when they go on the road. And they are still dealing with a good number of injuries. Or at least . . . I think they are.
These points just might push. My advice for those whom are compelled to play the points one way or the other is to purchase a hook (+/- .5 pts). GL
The Giants have been flat at home for awhile now. This likely leads many to suspect that the Seahawks will cover.
However, Seattle often looks very flat when they go on the road. And they are still dealing with a good number of injuries. Or at least . . . I think they are.
These points just might push. My advice for those whom are compelled to play the points one way or the other is to purchase a hook (+/- .5 pts). GL
I don't know how much a bye week helps or hurts a team that is undefeated going into it. I have a feeling the G-Men will come out a little flat today. They still should win it outright. Seattle might hold on for the cover.
New York - 24 Seattle - 19
Seahawks +7
I don't know how much a bye week helps or hurts a team that is undefeated going into it. I have a feeling the G-Men will come out a little flat today. They still should win it outright. Seattle might hold on for the cover.
Sounds like Both Engram and Branch will play, though Branch may be on a limited basis. Still won't be enough. Second time to the east coast, same results...
GIANTS
Sounds like Both Engram and Branch will play, though Branch may be on a limited basis. Still won't be enough. Second time to the east coast, same results...
over the past 2 seasons... Seattle is 1-4 ATS when playing on the East Coast in the morning... furthermore, they are 3-10 ATS when travelling 2 or more time zones from the West Coast...
basically, much like we have seen with Arizona, this team has a self-acknowledged hang-up when making a significant road trip...
um, and, oh yea... this highly overrated and beat up MASH unit of a team... is going into the den of the best team in football (albeit without Burress)...
Seattle is toast!
over the past 2 seasons... Seattle is 1-4 ATS when playing on the East Coast in the morning... furthermore, they are 3-10 ATS when travelling 2 or more time zones from the West Coast...
basically, much like we have seen with Arizona, this team has a self-acknowledged hang-up when making a significant road trip...
um, and, oh yea... this highly overrated and beat up MASH unit of a team... is going into the den of the best team in football (albeit without Burress)...
I like Seattle here. The NFL has become a league of "do the opposite" the last couple years. Like George Castanza said in Seinfeld......."Yes, I will do the opposite." His friend responding....."If everything you ever thought has been wrong, then opposite would have to be right!"
This game is a perfect example of that logic.....as was the KC game last week and Jets game. I'll take the points. Should be a good close game.
I like Seattle here. The NFL has become a league of "do the opposite" the last couple years. Like George Castanza said in Seinfeld......."Yes, I will do the opposite." His friend responding....."If everything you ever thought has been wrong, then opposite would have to be right!"
This game is a perfect example of that logic.....as was the KC game last week and Jets game. I'll take the points. Should be a good close game.
You aren't being forthcoming with Seattles ats record against the Giants. By my account they are 4-1-1 the last 6. That ain't got nothin' to do with the east coast or the weather or the birds in the sky, my friend. They just play them well, and the G-Men haven't beaten them by 7 as far back as my search engine can go (and that was way back to 1995) that I know for a fact. They have no business giving Seattle them kind of points. I am still going to get me a hook and play it at -7.5 though, just to get my wager off of that key number.
At any rate I have great appreciation for your capping skills and style, but it looks like we'll be on the opposite side of the fence on this one. I would wish you good luck but then that would be shortchanging my luck! How about this I wish you good health and wealth!
Now shephard,
You aren't being forthcoming with Seattles ats record against the Giants. By my account they are 4-1-1 the last 6. That ain't got nothin' to do with the east coast or the weather or the birds in the sky, my friend. They just play them well, and the G-Men haven't beaten them by 7 as far back as my search engine can go (and that was way back to 1995) that I know for a fact. They have no business giving Seattle them kind of points. I am still going to get me a hook and play it at -7.5 though, just to get my wager off of that key number.
At any rate I have great appreciation for your capping skills and style, but it looks like we'll be on the opposite side of the fence on this one. I would wish you good luck but then that would be shortchanging my luck! How about this I wish you good health and wealth!
the only the that scares me is Seattle really isn't very tough on the road....
with that being said I am going to take the points.... because if this game is as close as I think it will be, it will come down to whoever has the ball last....
Seattle +7
maybe a small small play on the ML
I know I origionally said Seattle ML
the only the that scares me is Seattle really isn't very tough on the road....
with that being said I am going to take the points.... because if this game is as close as I think it will be, it will come down to whoever has the ball last....
Watch... i don't think there is any need to enter their ATS record against the Giants into the equation... it does not change the fact that Seattle is disfunctional when it comes to playing ont he East Coast...
in fact, it is so bad that the Seattle players and coaches have talked candidly about it continuously going back 4 years... i have honestly never seen anything like that... where a team acknowledges that they have a serious problem winning those games... Arizona is the same way... it is a huge psychological barrier for Arizona, so much so that they stayed on the East Coast just to try something different... didn't work... 34-0 at halftime...
the Giants are the best team in football, and that makes this the least likely possibility for them to break that trend... they will not win this game... this is the pick of the week in the NFL...
Giants (-7)
Watch... i don't think there is any need to enter their ATS record against the Giants into the equation... it does not change the fact that Seattle is disfunctional when it comes to playing ont he East Coast...
in fact, it is so bad that the Seattle players and coaches have talked candidly about it continuously going back 4 years... i have honestly never seen anything like that... where a team acknowledges that they have a serious problem winning those games... Arizona is the same way... it is a huge psychological barrier for Arizona, so much so that they stayed on the East Coast just to try something different... didn't work... 34-0 at halftime...
the Giants are the best team in football, and that makes this the least likely possibility for them to break that trend... they will not win this game... this is the pick of the week in the NFL...
This line for the game reminds me of how last year the Patriots were a covering machine until they started being assigned numbers that they couldn't possibly cover. Those backers that were stuffing their pockets soon lost it all back.
Seattle just has the Giants number for whatever reason. Yet in spite of that the Giants were made 7 point favorites and are playing without their best receiver (Plaxico). The Seahawks on the other hand have suddenly got healthy and receivers Engram and Branch are back in the fold along with right tackle Locklear. Holmgren has had time for them to work on their pass defense as well over the bye, but it won't be as urgent a matter with the Giants only having old ass receivers to throw to with Plaxico out.
Another issue that I see is that the line started out at 7.5 on most books including mine and dropped to 7 on some with 94% of the early returns on the Giants. The moneyline is off as well, with -330 for the Giants and +270 for the Seahawks, and it should be -360 and +280 respectively.
This is Seattle's second visit to the meadowlands, so they should have a better familiarity with the atmosphere.
I expect to be of the minority on this wager just the same as I was on the Cheifs last weekend. Sorry to say folks that I am going to take the points and add a hook for this game making my spread +7.5 and also playing the Seattle moneyline as well, as given the history of these teams they have a better chance of winning this game than the Giants do.
Seattle +7.5 (keeping the hook)
Seattle moneyline +270 or more depending upon public donations
- I have some issues with your comments above. Seattle may have had the Giants number out in Seattle...not in NY where its a different world. One of the games seattle won was an overtime game where Jay Feely missed THREE field goals in the 4th Quarter and OT.
- NY Giants are 4-1 SU in their last 5 games when playing at home against Seattle
-The Seahawks did not play in the Meadowlands this year. They played at Buffalo which is about 7-8 hours away from the Meadowlands.
- Dominek Hixon will step in for Plaxico and have a breakout performance (that one isn't a fact, but my opinion - guy is nasty and will fit right in running the #1 WR routes)
Quote Originally Posted by Watch:
This line for the game reminds me of how last year the Patriots were a covering machine until they started being assigned numbers that they couldn't possibly cover. Those backers that were stuffing their pockets soon lost it all back.
Seattle just has the Giants number for whatever reason. Yet in spite of that the Giants were made 7 point favorites and are playing without their best receiver (Plaxico). The Seahawks on the other hand have suddenly got healthy and receivers Engram and Branch are back in the fold along with right tackle Locklear. Holmgren has had time for them to work on their pass defense as well over the bye, but it won't be as urgent a matter with the Giants only having old ass receivers to throw to with Plaxico out.
Another issue that I see is that the line started out at 7.5 on most books including mine and dropped to 7 on some with 94% of the early returns on the Giants. The moneyline is off as well, with -330 for the Giants and +270 for the Seahawks, and it should be -360 and +280 respectively.
This is Seattle's second visit to the meadowlands, so they should have a better familiarity with the atmosphere.
I expect to be of the minority on this wager just the same as I was on the Cheifs last weekend. Sorry to say folks that I am going to take the points and add a hook for this game making my spread +7.5 and also playing the Seattle moneyline as well, as given the history of these teams they have a better chance of winning this game than the Giants do.
Seattle +7.5 (keeping the hook)
Seattle moneyline +270 or more depending upon public donations
- I have some issues with your comments above. Seattle may have had the Giants number out in Seattle...not in NY where its a different world. One of the games seattle won was an overtime game where Jay Feely missed THREE field goals in the 4th Quarter and OT.
- NY Giants are 4-1 SU in their last 5 games when playing at home against Seattle
-The Seahawks did not play in the Meadowlands this year. They played at Buffalo which is about 7-8 hours away from the Meadowlands.
- Dominek Hixon will step in for Plaxico and have a breakout performance (that one isn't a fact, but my opinion - guy is nasty and will fit right in running the #1 WR routes)
- I have some issues with your comments above. Seattle may have had the Giants number out in Seattle...not in NY where its a different world. One of the games seattle won was an overtime game where Jay Feely missed THREE field goals in the 4th Quarter and OT.
- NY Giants are 4-1 SU in their last 5 games when playing at home against Seattle
-The Seahawks did not play in the Meadowlands this year. They played at Buffalo which is about 7-8 hours away from the Meadowlands.
- Dominek Hixon will step in for Plaxico and have a breakout performance (that one isn't a fact, but my opinion - guy is nasty and will fit right in running the #1 WR routes)
I have a feeling this is going to be a simliar matchup of the Giants vs. the extremely tough team The Bengals.... (note the sarcasm).... I would say that GMEN might pull it out at home, but I can't see them covering 7....
and not having plax is HUGE..... it just brings less focus to that side of the field, whether he gets his touches or not
Quote Originally Posted by jjmandl:
- I have some issues with your comments above. Seattle may have had the Giants number out in Seattle...not in NY where its a different world. One of the games seattle won was an overtime game where Jay Feely missed THREE field goals in the 4th Quarter and OT.
- NY Giants are 4-1 SU in their last 5 games when playing at home against Seattle
-The Seahawks did not play in the Meadowlands this year. They played at Buffalo which is about 7-8 hours away from the Meadowlands.
- Dominek Hixon will step in for Plaxico and have a breakout performance (that one isn't a fact, but my opinion - guy is nasty and will fit right in running the #1 WR routes)
I have a feeling this is going to be a simliar matchup of the Giants vs. the extremely tough team The Bengals.... (note the sarcasm).... I would say that GMEN might pull it out at home, but I can't see them covering 7....
and not having plax is HUGE..... it just brings less focus to that side of the field, whether he gets his touches or not
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