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Quote Originally Posted by bvent:

After some further research I like Carolina in this divisional match up game. Carolina got beat pretty badly when these two teams last played in October. A blocked punt returned for a TD was the start of a bad day for the Panthers. Jake Delhomme played a pretty poor game. There were many oppotunies for the Panthers to score but Delhomme either under threw his receivers or was throwing picks that gave Tampa good field position.
 
Needless to say the Panthers need this win and playing at home on Monday night should help. Jake Delhomme is 7-2 against the Buccaneers overall and 0-1 this year. I can't see them losing two games to the Bucs in the same year. In my opinion it's pretty hard for NFL teams to win 2 games against a division rival. I will buy the line down a half point but like Carolina to win here. The over has been hot on MNF and I think it gets back on track in this game after last weeks under.
 
Carolina -2.5
Over 38
 
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  Unfortuneately you are not getting -2.5 for Carolina unless you spend 1.4 for the VIG....people please do not come in here and make up your own lines...Use the covers line...It will be 3.5 by 5pm tonight..
 
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Quote Originally Posted by jeff-bob:

I believe that over 38.5 is the lock of the week.  If it stays under 40 for the total... I love it.  GL

Billy-bob I am pretty sure you just used the L word...
 
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Steve Smith time...Lets Rock
Panthers -2    1st half  6 units
Panthers -3    game 8 units
 
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6-0 at home.  Going to take a chance with the home team. 
Carolina -3 and Over 38 but much more on the panthers
 
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27-19 CAR
 
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Quote Originally Posted by trance:

6-0 at home.  Going to take a chance with the home team. 
Carolina -3 and Over 38 but much more on the panthers


 
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  Unfortuneately you are not getting -2.5 for Carolina unless you spend 1.4 for the VIG....people please do not come in here and make up your own lines...Use the covers line...It will be 3.5 by 5pm tonight..
my local has it at 2.5 so maybe he does have it who cares
 
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Carolina -3 for me tonight.   Starting center and left tackle for Carolina did not play in their first matchup at Tampa Bay.  They are back now in the lineup and will help make the difference at home.

GL all...  
 
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Play #1: Tampa + 3
Play #2 (small): Tampa ML +145
Play #3: 7-pt Teaser: Tampa +10 & Over 31.5
 
Tampa is the better team overall; playing better defense and have more continuity on offense. Garcia seems to make enough plays to move the chains and extends plays while Gruden continues to find ways to effectively run the ball. The defense is one of the best, inarguably, and will stuff the Panthers for most of the night. I expect 2-3 scoring drives from the Panthers while benefitting once or twice from favorable field position provided by their own stout defense. I just don't see the Panthers making enough plays to beat the Bucs; Kiffin will have his D ready - especially the secondary and will not let Steve Smith beat them.  Williams is the only other offensive weapon the Panthers have and if the Bucs can keep him and Smith in relative check, they should win this game. The Panthers win with smoke and mirrors; they shouldn't have won last week in GB and were very lucky to get out of Lambeau with the win.
 
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Some of my favorite posts:
1. A posted score with colorful writing and eye-catching fonts and no analysis
2. People criticizing the posts of others who have not read the post properly
3. Posting a play i.e. Panthers +3 with any variety of symbols i.e.
   or  or  etc., etc., etc and, once again, absolutely no analysis or reasoning
4. Posting things i.e pornographic poems which have absolutely nothing of merit to the topic at hand: sports handicapping resulting in making money
5. Foolish displays of hubris i.e. using the dreaded "L" word (yes, I am a little superstitious), going ballistic on other posters who have a differing opinion rather than calmly discussing the difference of opinion to give everyone a better understanding of the game(s) at hand
6. Posting for no other reason than to criticize other posters
 
Soak this in and apply in the future for a better collective effort designed to produce winning results.
 
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Posted: #36
Look....CAR can't move ball against TB
TB can't score = un 38.5
To close to call on a side.
Scores in the last 3 show this game should go over, don't believe it.
 
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99% of the in the know like CAR.
I see a knock dn, drag out, few pts scored.
What am I missing.
 
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 What kind of post is that? I'm criticizing it.
 
 
 
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Thanks for the insight timmy; I really feel like I have a better handle on the game now.
 
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carolina -3
 
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DIVISION GAME / 4TH RANKED D IT'LL BE A CLOSE ONE BUCS +3 $$$

 
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Division rivalries are aways tough to pick, gonna have to go with the Panthers tho at -3 GL. Fade me and win big
 
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Chargers - W
Jets - L
Pats - L
Steelers - W
 
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goinggone, I'm seeing the same you are,
When I looked at the last three my first reaction was to pull the trigger on the over, but I agree,  TB is going to stop themselves on offense and carolina on defense.
I could see it going under very easily,  however, I learned A while ago to never bet the under on a Mon night. 
statistical suicide (no value) 
 
im getting TB M/L @ +155 that is good value, 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Quote Originally Posted by goinggone:

99% of the in the know like CAR.
I see a knock dn, drag out, few pts scored.
What am I missing.

What your are missing is that tampa bay will not allow steve smith to make crazy 3 and 13 1st downs by huge plays.. Tampa bay is a bend dont break defense, Look at the last meeting between the two, it was a special team nightmare for pathers and the tampa bay offensive line dominated carolina which i plan to see tonight. warrick dun added with some playaction, along with a good defense.. ill take the 3 points and continue to beat my hometown     croookieee... shut down steve smith and delohme will dump short passes all night, maybe even hit the ground 3 or 4 times...

 
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These two teams' records are so 'dead even', that it's a lil' surprising that this line isn't a 'pick 'em'.  When we factor in the 'homefield advantage' compulsory 3 points; I reckon it basically is a coin-flip scenario.

Though the Panthers are undefeated at home, they've had a lot of close-calls and last-minute comebacks.  The Bucs injury list looks longer, but you know they're still going to come out and compete.  I think Tampa will eke out a victory. 

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Posted: #46
Quote Originally Posted by bvent:

After some further research I like Carolina in this divisional match up game. Carolina got beat pretty badly when these two teams last played in October. A blocked punt returned for a TD was the start of a bad day for the Panthers. Jake Delhomme played a pretty poor game. There were many oppotunies for the Panthers to score but Delhomme either under threw his receivers or was throwing picks that gave Tampa good field position.
 
Needless to say the Panthers need this win and playing at home on Monday night should help. Jake Delhomme is 7-2 against the Buccaneers overall and 0-1 this year. I can't see them losing two games to the Bucs in the same year. In my opinion it's pretty hard for NFL teams to win 2 games against a division rival. I will buy the line down a half point but like Carolina to win here. The over has been hot on MNF and I think it gets back on track in this game after last weeks under.
 
Carolina -2.5 (-130)
Over 38 (-120)
 
Good Luck!
 

Denocal, Fortunately I am getting -2.5....and the line isnt made up. Maybe you shouldn't tell someone what they bet. I fixed it okay..bro. I'm a new poster I apologize for breaking the rules. I bought a half point for both the line and total. Why should I should I use a line that I didn't bet it at?

 
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Posted: #47
Cats going to scatch the eyes of the Bucs. Payback is a BITCH!
 
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Posted: #48

Quote Originally Posted by dencol:



  Unfortuneately you are not getting -2.5 for Carolina unless you spend 1.4 for the VIG....people please do not come in here and make up your own lines...Use the covers line...It will be 3.5 by 5pm tonight..

 

 

Actually, I use two books...One has Carolina -3 -125, and will not let you buy to - 2.5 or +3.5 (or when on 3 or 7)

I have another book that will let you do whatever you want...So I have Carolina -2.5 -120 (10% for the Half Point)

So please, do not make up things that arent true like this line is not available...Good Luck

 

 

 
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Some of the smarter books wont allow you to buy it down on 3/7 but some do...
 
 
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Quote Originally Posted by rick3117:

goinggone, I'm seeing the same you are,
When I looked at the last three my first reaction was to pull the trigger on the over, but I agree,  TB is going to stop themselves on offense and carolina on defense.
I could see it going under very easily,  however, I learned A while ago to never bet the under on a Mon night. 
statistical suicide (no value)  Thanks for the input, hafta ponder awhile before I fire.
 
im getting TB M/L @ +155 that is good value, 
 
 
 
 
 
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