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yea... there is only 1 NFL game this week i know i will not lose, and it's this one... people betting on TB in this one are going to quickly learn that this is not last year... don't bet against the Saints...
 
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Quote Originally Posted by Coloneljim:

Tampa Bay - 23             New Orleans - 20
Buccaneers +3.5       over 42.5
Visitor in this series seems to be the play.

i'm 100% convinced that Coloneljim is a bookie... i've been watching his posts for ages... his predictions are always ultra-conservative, with them ending up right around the spread and total 95% of the time... and wrong easily 70-75% of the time...

and yet he keeps on posting with no lack of confidence...

i don't look at all threads... only the ones i am betting on or considering, so i don't see all of his picks... but i know the games i play he's almost always on the other side... and therefore he is almost always losing...

nobody should be on the Buccs in this one...

 
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Quote Originally Posted by shepherd:

the NFC power structure is as follows this year:

 

1) Giants (don't even start... if you watched them last night you know this is the best team in the NFC... still!)

2) NO Saints... easily the 2nd best QB in the NFC (maybe 1st?)... more offensive talent than any team in the NFL... and some great defensive additions...

3) Minnesota... best offensive line in the NFL... best defensive line in the NFL... best RB in the NFL... if Jackson can be middle of the road, they win the division running away...

4) Philly... with a healthy McNabb they are a very dangerous team... he will need his top 2 WRs to get healthy, and if they do, expect Jackson to be very Welker-like coming out of the slot for Donovan...

5) Dallas... man... trust me... this team is going to disappoint this year... they will be a wildcard at best...

 

 

i will get a lot of heat for this list... but not if you come back at the end of the year... this is the way it is...

Cmon Shep,

Dallas is easily the class of the NFC, NO may be a close second, Philly, Minn, NY Giants

We have the same 5 but nowhere near the same order, it will be interesting to see how it plays out

 
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The New Orleans Saints are historically one of the worst starting teams in the history of the NFL.  I believe they are 3-14 in Week 1 games since 1990.  3-14.  The Bucs come in with one of the steadiest QB's in the league, and one of the more consistent teams overall.  You know exactly what you are going to get out of them each and every week.  The Saints had a great offseason beefing up their defense, and adding another weapon with Jeremy Shockey.  They should be able to win the NFC South, but as far as being the class of the NFC, they still have to prove themselves come playoff season. 

I think this line is set exactly right, and whoever wins it, it's going to be by a half point I'm sure.  Tampa was able to win both games against the Saints last year for one reason and one reason alone...TURNOVERS.  They forced 3 fumbles in both games vs. New Orleans last season, and just seem to be able to get to them physically.  It's been a rough week for the Saints dealing with Gustav and practicing in Indianapolis, and there will undoubtedly be some fatigue early on in this one.  For that reason and that reason only, I'm rolling with the....

TAMPA BAY BUCCANEERS  +2   1ST HALF
 
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Quote Originally Posted by shepherd:

the NFC power structure is as follows this year:

 

1) Giants (don't even start... if you watched them last night you know this is the best team in the NFC... still!)

2) NO Saints... easily the 2nd best QB in the NFC (maybe 1st?)... more offensive talent than any team in the NFL... and some great defensive additions...

3) Minnesota... best offensive line in the NFL... best defensive line in the NFL... best RB in the NFL... if Jackson can be middle of the road, they win the division running away...

4) Philly... with a healthy McNabb they are a very dangerous team... he will need his top 2 WRs to get healthy, and if they do, expect Jackson to be very Welker-like coming out of the slot for Donovan...

5) Dallas... man... trust me... this team is going to disappoint this year... they will be a wildcard at best...

I was at the Giant/Redskin game and if thats the best team in the NFC, the NFC sucks. Wash dropped at least 3 INTs. Giants scored a TD on the opening drive when the stadium was going nuts and that was it. Skins O-Line couldn't handle Tuck, but their line isn't very good. Giants will be lucky to make the playoffs, IMO.

 

i will get a lot of heat for this list... but not if you come back at the end of the year... this is the way it is...

 
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Quote Originally Posted by GoG:

i'm 100% convinced that Coloneljim is a bookie... i've been watching his posts for ages... his predictions are always ultra-conservative, with them ending up right around the spread and total 95% of the time... and wrong easily 70-75% of the time...

and yet he keeps on posting with no lack of confidence...

i don't look at all threads... only the ones i am betting on or considering, so i don't see all of his picks... but i know the games i play he's almost always on the other side... and therefore he is almost always losing...

nobody should be on the Buccs in this one...

I totally agree with you GoG, , I can recall his threads from last season too, anyone banking on him is

 
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TB is notorious for winning ugly games or losing by 3.  Their D and running game hang in tough and pull it out at the end.  I don't see tamba bay getting blown out.  This will be field position game and I'll gladly take 3 points for the road warriors.
 
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saints ml
 
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bucs have been an every other team since around the time the gruden era began.  Last year was an on year.  This year, they should be back to struggling.  They barely seem like they even have the pieces to win in the first place.  NO will be much improvecd and look like they did at the end of last year.  Seems too easy, but the Buc players here make me feel comfortable with the line movement.
 
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All that history crab about Saints have this and have that.. This a new year!!!! SAINTS!!!  Cover 2 does give the Saints hell.. But I promise wit Drew throwing the ball an avg of 35 times a game.. he'll see the light
 
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Bucs all the way here drew throw 2 or 3 ints today
 
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Quote Originally Posted by Blkshrt:

Cmon Shep,

Dallas is easily the class of the NFC, NO may be a close second, Philly, Minn, NY Giants

We have the same 5 but nowhere near the same order, it will be interesting to see how it plays out

i would readily concede that the top 5 are all very close.. can see anyone of them winning the NFC and getting to the SB... and Dallas may end being the 2nd best team... i only put them at 5 because of what i expect from the other teams... NO and Philly will be very hungry this year... i expect Philly or NY to win the NFC east...

like i said, maybe Dallas lives up to expectations...

regardless, the Giants are at the top... the defense looks good enough, and they have without a doubt the best QB in the NFC... i am not even remotely willing to listen to any argument... i'm not a huge Giants fan, but i know what i see... Eli has moved himself up right behind Peyton and Brady as the best QBs in the league... and we all know the important of QB play... combine that with a nasty defense, and you've got something...

i'll buy into Romo when he comes through down the stretch...

 
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NO HT and for the game..
 
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Shepherd-

I don't agree with you in Eli is a great QB.  If you take away Plaxico Burress and Eli is nothing.  If anything, I'm starting to rank Plaxico Burress up there as best WR in the NFC East and possibly the whole league.  Plaxico is that good, and he isn't getting the same recognition that Moss and Owens is getting. 

 
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OVER
 
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Tampa Bay +3

Over 42.5

Good Luck Everyone!
 
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im going with the bucs here
 
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no -3
 
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much back and forth here, going saints/over 6pt teaser!!!!
 
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Quote Originally Posted by shepherd:

the NFC power structure is as follows this year:

 

1) Giants (don't even start... if you watched them last night you know this is the best team in the NFC... still!)

2) NO Saints... easily the 2nd best QB in the NFC (maybe 1st?)... more offensive talent than any team in the NFL... and some great defensive additions...

3) Minnesota... best offensive line in the NFL... best defensive line in the NFL... best RB in the NFL... if Jackson can be middle of the road, they win the division running away...

4) Philly... with a healthy McNabb they are a very dangerous team... he will need his top 2 WRs to get healthy, and if they do, expect Jackson to be very Welker-like coming out of the slot for Donovan...

5) Dallas... man... trust me... this team is going to disappoint this year... they will be a wildcard at best...

 

 

i will get a lot of heat for this list... but not if you come back at the end of the year... this is the way it is...

 

For a smart ass you sure don't know much about football!! 

 
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SAINTS -3
 
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Saints -4 apparently everybody is on my Saints.  I layed the chalk, got a bunch of friends there and they say it is already rocking.  Who dat!
 
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Layed the Chalk -4 for my Saints.  I have friends thereand they say it is rocking.  Who dat go saints!
 
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two guys that TB can NOT control... Marques Colston and Sedrick Ellis... NO will win this one...
 
 
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