I took it for a test run at Golf Town the other day I hqave to say I wasn't all that impressed. I had a hard time hitting the sweet spot and it had a poor quality grip for such a good looking club.
I didn't get a chance to change any of the settings but wasn't that interested in buyinbg it without a bigger wrap around grip first.
Seemed like a really well built club with a nice looking fit and finish though. I am in the market for a new driver and was wondering what anyone else thinks.
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I took it for a test run at Golf Town the other day I hqave to say I wasn't all that impressed. I had a hard time hitting the sweet spot and it had a poor quality grip for such a good looking club.
I didn't get a chance to change any of the settings but wasn't that interested in buyinbg it without a bigger wrap around grip first.
Seemed like a really well built club with a nice looking fit and finish though. I am in the market for a new driver and was wondering what anyone else thinks.
FROM YOUR POST INFO, YOU SHOULD ALSO TRY THE BURNER SUPERFAST 2.0 LARGER 460CC CLUBHEAD FOR MORE FORGIVENESS AND YOU CAN CUSTOM ORDER A LARGER GRIP AT NO CHARGE
FEEL FREE TO PM ME FOR MORE INFO & A MUCH BETTER PRICE THAN WHAT IS OUT THERE
Thank you that is a very kind offer. I will certainly try the new burner out. I had an old copper colored bubble shaft burner and an Orlimar Trimetal as my last two drivers, the Orlimar was a great club but the shaft went on it last year.
What driver do you currently use ?
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Quote Originally Posted by QMICH:
FROM YOUR POST INFO, YOU SHOULD ALSO TRY THE BURNER SUPERFAST 2.0 LARGER 460CC CLUBHEAD FOR MORE FORGIVENESS AND YOU CAN CUSTOM ORDER A LARGER GRIP AT NO CHARGE
FEEL FREE TO PM ME FOR MORE INFO & A MUCH BETTER PRICE THAN WHAT IS OUT THERE
Thank you that is a very kind offer. I will certainly try the new burner out. I had an old copper colored bubble shaft burner and an Orlimar Trimetal as my last two drivers, the Orlimar was a great club but the shaft went on it last year.
I wish we could all go back to the 70's and get my hands back on my light brown Tony Pena persimmon head driver. Loved the way it looked, the way it was perfectly square to the ball and how much easier it was to hit a draw. I miss my Wilson original 8802 putter as well, which someone stole right out of my bag. And while I am playing with my time machine.....I want my metal spikes back too! Played better and I miss the sound on concrete.
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I wish we could all go back to the 70's and get my hands back on my light brown Tony Pena persimmon head driver. Loved the way it looked, the way it was perfectly square to the ball and how much easier it was to hit a draw. I miss my Wilson original 8802 putter as well, which someone stole right out of my bag. And while I am playing with my time machine.....I want my metal spikes back too! Played better and I miss the sound on concrete.
WOW, THOSE ARE SOME OLD SCHOOL METAL WOODS FOR SURE OG! THE ORLIMAR GOLF COMPANY IS OWNED BY A DRIVING RANGE UP HERE IN MI.
I CURRENTLY HAVE A FEW, LAST YEARS TAYLORMADE R9 460 W/FUBUKI 73 STIFF SHAFT, LAST YEARS CALLAWAY FT-9 W/ALDILA VS PROTO 80 STIFF SHAFT, THE NEW TITLEIST 910D2 W/AXIVCORE TOUR BLACK STIFF SHAFT & I HAVE THE NEW R11 COMING IN THE SAME FUBUKI 73 STIFF SHAFT.
I PERSONALLY PREFER A LITTLE HEAVIER & STIFF SHAFT TO MATCH MY SWING SPEED AND KEEP MY TRAJECTORY WHERE I LIKE IT, BUT UNLIKE THE OLD DAYS(2005 & EARLIER), THE MAJOR MANUFACTURERS NOW USE SOME AWESOME STOCK SHAFTS IN THEIR NEW MODELS!
Good to know I also like a stiff to extra stiff shaft. Ill talk to you after I try a few more out.
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Quote Originally Posted by QMICH:
WOW, THOSE ARE SOME OLD SCHOOL METAL WOODS FOR SURE OG! THE ORLIMAR GOLF COMPANY IS OWNED BY A DRIVING RANGE UP HERE IN MI.
I CURRENTLY HAVE A FEW, LAST YEARS TAYLORMADE R9 460 W/FUBUKI 73 STIFF SHAFT, LAST YEARS CALLAWAY FT-9 W/ALDILA VS PROTO 80 STIFF SHAFT, THE NEW TITLEIST 910D2 W/AXIVCORE TOUR BLACK STIFF SHAFT & I HAVE THE NEW R11 COMING IN THE SAME FUBUKI 73 STIFF SHAFT.
I PERSONALLY PREFER A LITTLE HEAVIER & STIFF SHAFT TO MATCH MY SWING SPEED AND KEEP MY TRAJECTORY WHERE I LIKE IT, BUT UNLIKE THE OLD DAYS(2005 & EARLIER), THE MAJOR MANUFACTURERS NOW USE SOME AWESOME STOCK SHAFTS IN THEIR NEW MODELS!
Good to know I also like a stiff to extra stiff shaft. Ill talk to you after I try a few more out.
Hooey! The driver is amazing in performance and as UGLY as sin!
You need a shaft balanced can't get it with a stock shaft to your swing needs and characteristics,swing speed,launch angle,spin rate off the clubface, low kick, mid kick etc and strongsided also in my opinion It;s like buying a Ferrari with goodyear tires.Once you know what you need OK go find it and buy it.To hit the taylormade without changing the settings is like buying a Porsche and only driving it in straight line or not accelerating. Tough way to give it a proper test. Golf clubs follow the same general category as that rock and roll song by Bonnie Rait with the line "it aint the meat its the motion" but in this case I respectfully disagree with your opinion I feel the direct opposite the meat here is impressive(but butt ugly) the mechanism is amazing, the weakpoint from my perspective in my test was the lack of the shaft I would have liked to have had in it. Try em all why not. Good luck with you search
QMICH when I decide what i need I'll call you first,fair enough
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Hooey! The driver is amazing in performance and as UGLY as sin!
You need a shaft balanced can't get it with a stock shaft to your swing needs and characteristics,swing speed,launch angle,spin rate off the clubface, low kick, mid kick etc and strongsided also in my opinion It;s like buying a Ferrari with goodyear tires.Once you know what you need OK go find it and buy it.To hit the taylormade without changing the settings is like buying a Porsche and only driving it in straight line or not accelerating. Tough way to give it a proper test. Golf clubs follow the same general category as that rock and roll song by Bonnie Rait with the line "it aint the meat its the motion" but in this case I respectfully disagree with your opinion I feel the direct opposite the meat here is impressive(but butt ugly) the mechanism is amazing, the weakpoint from my perspective in my test was the lack of the shaft I would have liked to have had in it. Try em all why not. Good luck with you search
QMICH when I decide what i need I'll call you first,fair enough
^^^ Yeah I can see what your saying but I don't need to spend all day calibrating it, it's not like I am going for my tour card or anything.
Well why don't you fly me down to Florida and I will test them out for a few rounds, we are at a balmy -30 here in Alberta, it is a little hard to test a golf club or a Porsche.
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^^^ Yeah I can see what your saying but I don't need to spend all day calibrating it, it's not like I am going for my tour card or anything.
Well why don't you fly me down to Florida and I will test them out for a few rounds, we are at a balmy -30 here in Alberta, it is a little hard to test a golf club or a Porsche.
I have played TaylorMade my whole live...Just got the Burner Superfast last year and although it took some time to get the shaft, lie and all that right I love it. Will probably try the R11 quite a bit, but not looking to buy anything
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I have played TaylorMade my whole live...Just got the Burner Superfast last year and although it took some time to get the shaft, lie and all that right I love it. Will probably try the R11 quite a bit, but not looking to buy anything
I have played TaylorMade my whole live...Just got the Burner Superfast last year and although it took some time to get the shaft, lie and all that right I love it. Will probably try the R11 quite a bit, but not looking to buy anything
Yeah I got some R7 Irons right now they are pretty solid I can shoot the shorter clubs 7 and under like a sniper.
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Quote Originally Posted by CMJohnson1:
I have played TaylorMade my whole live...Just got the Burner Superfast last year and although it took some time to get the shaft, lie and all that right I love it. Will probably try the R11 quite a bit, but not looking to buy anything
Yeah I got some R7 Irons right now they are pretty solid I can shoot the shorter clubs 7 and under like a sniper.
We love Canadians down here bro, come on down 72 and sunny everyday ha ha not quite true in my zone. I work 40hrs a week in an office too but I don't miss the north any cept my red sox. If you every get down drop me a line.I could use some more looneys
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We love Canadians down here bro, come on down 72 and sunny everyday ha ha not quite true in my zone. I work 40hrs a week in an office too but I don't miss the north any cept my red sox. If you every get down drop me a line.I could use some more looneys
Hooey! The driver is amazing in performance and as UGLY as sin!
You need a shaft balanced can't get it with a stock shaft to your swing needs and characteristics,swing speed,launch angle,spin rate off the clubface, low kick, mid kick etc and strongsided also in my opinion It;s like buying a Ferrari with goodyear tires.Once you know what you need OK go find it and buy it.To hit the taylormade without changing the settings is like buying a Porsche and only driving it in straight line or not accelerating. Tough way to give it a proper test. Golf clubs follow the same general category as that rock and roll song by Bonnie Rait with the line "it aint the meat its the motion" but in this case I respectfully disagree with your opinion I feel the direct opposite the meat here is impressive(but butt ugly) the mechanism is amazing, the weakpoint from my perspective in my test was the lack of the shaft I would have liked to have had in it. Try em all why not. Good luck with you search
QMICH when I decide what i need I'll call you first,fair enough
Definitely can tell you are an old timer. But definitely correct. Especially with the shaft stuff. They may be using "Name" brand shafts in stock clubs but they are not the same high performance shafts that guys on tv use. The club companies are basically buying naming rights. For instance Titleist used to use a Fujikura Speeder in there woods but if you noticed it always said something like designed for titleist. Those are not the "Real" Speeders. Nothing better than getting a head that l u like the look and feels good and then going to a good clubmaker, not golfsmith or PGA Superstore, and getting fit for the right shaft.
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Quote Originally Posted by Bluefin:
Hooey! The driver is amazing in performance and as UGLY as sin!
You need a shaft balanced can't get it with a stock shaft to your swing needs and characteristics,swing speed,launch angle,spin rate off the clubface, low kick, mid kick etc and strongsided also in my opinion It;s like buying a Ferrari with goodyear tires.Once you know what you need OK go find it and buy it.To hit the taylormade without changing the settings is like buying a Porsche and only driving it in straight line or not accelerating. Tough way to give it a proper test. Golf clubs follow the same general category as that rock and roll song by Bonnie Rait with the line "it aint the meat its the motion" but in this case I respectfully disagree with your opinion I feel the direct opposite the meat here is impressive(but butt ugly) the mechanism is amazing, the weakpoint from my perspective in my test was the lack of the shaft I would have liked to have had in it. Try em all why not. Good luck with you search
QMICH when I decide what i need I'll call you first,fair enough
Definitely can tell you are an old timer. But definitely correct. Especially with the shaft stuff. They may be using "Name" brand shafts in stock clubs but they are not the same high performance shafts that guys on tv use. The club companies are basically buying naming rights. For instance Titleist used to use a Fujikura Speeder in there woods but if you noticed it always said something like designed for titleist. Those are not the "Real" Speeders. Nothing better than getting a head that l u like the look and feels good and then going to a good clubmaker, not golfsmith or PGA Superstore, and getting fit for the right shaft.
Definitely can tell you are an old timer. But definitely correct. Especially with the shaft stuff. They may be using "Name" brand shafts in stock clubs but they are not the same high performance shafts that guys on tv use. The club companies are basically buying naming rights. For instance Titleist used to use a Fujikura Speeder in there woods but if you noticed it always said something like designed for titleist. Those are not the "Real" Speeders. Nothing better than getting a head that l u like the look and feels good and then going to a good clubmaker, not golfsmith or PGA Superstore, and getting fit for the right shaft.
yes the "made for" Titleist's are not the "real" shafts they are still based off the real shaft profile but are usually just softer, higher torque, higher launch which is probably better for most mid-high caps with slower swing speeds who still want to use "what the guys on tour play". The Taylormade TP shafts however are the real shafts just painted with TM graphics. getting fit for a shaft outside on a trackman, where you can see the ball flight, will be much better option than a simulator inside.
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Quote Originally Posted by NoWorries21:
Definitely can tell you are an old timer. But definitely correct. Especially with the shaft stuff. They may be using "Name" brand shafts in stock clubs but they are not the same high performance shafts that guys on tv use. The club companies are basically buying naming rights. For instance Titleist used to use a Fujikura Speeder in there woods but if you noticed it always said something like designed for titleist. Those are not the "Real" Speeders. Nothing better than getting a head that l u like the look and feels good and then going to a good clubmaker, not golfsmith or PGA Superstore, and getting fit for the right shaft.
yes the "made for" Titleist's are not the "real" shafts they are still based off the real shaft profile but are usually just softer, higher torque, higher launch which is probably better for most mid-high caps with slower swing speeds who still want to use "what the guys on tour play". The Taylormade TP shafts however are the real shafts just painted with TM graphics. getting fit for a shaft outside on a trackman, where you can see the ball flight, will be much better option than a simulator inside.
yes the "made for" Titleist's are not the "real" shafts they are still based off the real shaft profile but are usually just softer, higher torque, higher launch which is probably better for most mid-high caps with slower swing speeds who still want to use "what the guys on tour play". The Taylormade TP shafts however are the real shafts just painted with TM graphics. getting fit for a shaft outside on a trackman, where you can see the ball flight, will be much better option than a simulator inside.
Trackmans are no doubt the best. All of the UST Shaft testing I do is on a trackman. But a good clubmaker can get really close. The only thing I disagree with is the made for shafts being close. All the things u mentioned maked the shaft a completely different profile. And as far as Taylor Made you are kinda wrong. The guys on tour all look like they are playing the same thing that you buy in stores but actually they are different shafts just a Taylor made paint job. I guess that is kinda what you are saying but the shafts that arent stock Taylormade but have Taylor Made paint are not offered in stores.
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Quote Originally Posted by Danchuk:
yes the "made for" Titleist's are not the "real" shafts they are still based off the real shaft profile but are usually just softer, higher torque, higher launch which is probably better for most mid-high caps with slower swing speeds who still want to use "what the guys on tour play". The Taylormade TP shafts however are the real shafts just painted with TM graphics. getting fit for a shaft outside on a trackman, where you can see the ball flight, will be much better option than a simulator inside.
Trackmans are no doubt the best. All of the UST Shaft testing I do is on a trackman. But a good clubmaker can get really close. The only thing I disagree with is the made for shafts being close. All the things u mentioned maked the shaft a completely different profile. And as far as Taylor Made you are kinda wrong. The guys on tour all look like they are playing the same thing that you buy in stores but actually they are different shafts just a Taylor made paint job. I guess that is kinda what you are saying but the shafts that arent stock Taylormade but have Taylor Made paint are not offered in stores.
Trackmans are no doubt the best. All of the UST Shaft testing I do is on a trackman. But a good clubmaker can get really close. The only thing I disagree with is the made for shafts being close. All the things u mentioned maked the shaft a completely different profile. And as far as Taylor Made you are kinda wrong. The guys on tour all look like they are playing the same thing that you buy in stores but actually they are different shafts just a Taylor made paint job. I guess that is kinda what you are saying but the shafts that arent stock Taylormade but have Taylor Made paint are not offered in stores.
maybe i didnt state it right. the made for shafts are still produced with the original aftermarket shaft base or profile but are slightly tweaked as per OEM request hence the designed for. I was talking about the Taylormade "TP" shafts, the ones that come with the TP models, and yes they are offered in stores just as a custom option.
Trackmans are no doubt the best. All of the UST Shaft testing I do is on a trackman. But a good clubmaker can get really close. The only thing I disagree with is the made for shafts being close. All the things u mentioned maked the shaft a completely different profile. And as far as Taylor Made you are kinda wrong. The guys on tour all look like they are playing the same thing that you buy in stores but actually they are different shafts just a Taylor made paint job. I guess that is kinda what you are saying but the shafts that arent stock Taylormade but have Taylor Made paint are not offered in stores.
maybe i didnt state it right. the made for shafts are still produced with the original aftermarket shaft base or profile but are slightly tweaked as per OEM request hence the designed for. I was talking about the Taylormade "TP" shafts, the ones that come with the TP models, and yes they are offered in stores just as a custom option.
One of my very good friends is in R&D at UST. The made for shafts are not woven the same. Have different flex profiles. Have a lot more torque. Basically it turns a$300 shaft into a $30 shaft.
We had a discussion in here before about how clever the Talor Made paint job was. The general public thought they were what u saw in stores but actually were all different shafts with TP Paint
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One of my very good friends is in R&D at UST. The made for shafts are not woven the same. Have different flex profiles. Have a lot more torque. Basically it turns a$300 shaft into a $30 shaft.
We had a discussion in here before about how clever the Talor Made paint job was. The general public thought they were what u saw in stores but actually were all different shafts with TP Paint
The only thing I am trying to say about the Taylormade shafts is the TP shafts are the same as the aftermarket versions. the Matrix HD6 TP, the Mitsubishi Fubuki TP, and any shaft that has (TP) beside the name in the above Taylormade custom shafts link are the real shafts not the made for versions like Titleist's. that includes the Aldila RIP which is stock for the SuperDeep TP, the Fujikura Motore F1 stock in SuperTri TP, and Fujikura Blur stock in R11 TP.
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The only thing I am trying to say about the Taylormade shafts is the TP shafts are the same as the aftermarket versions. the Matrix HD6 TP, the Mitsubishi Fubuki TP, and any shaft that has (TP) beside the name in the above Taylormade custom shafts link are the real shafts not the made for versions like Titleist's. that includes the Aldila RIP which is stock for the SuperDeep TP, the Fujikura Motore F1 stock in SuperTri TP, and Fujikura Blur stock in R11 TP.
I REALLY ENJOY READING GOLF PRODUCT BLOGS LIKE THIS.
IT SEEMS THAT MOST ADVANCED TO PROFESSIONAL PLAYERS HAVE A GOOD GRASP ON WHAT SHAFTS FIT & PERFORM THE BEST FOR THEIR GAME. BUT WHAT SOME OF THOSE BETTER PLAYERS TEND TO FORGET IS THAT TORQUE AS WELL AS A LOWER FLEX POINT ARE NORMALLY THE AVERAGE GOLFERS BEST FRIENDS
TRACKMANS ARE GREAT, BUT SOMEONE THAT KNOWS EXACTLY WHAT THEY ARE DOING CAN PERFORM A PROPER CLUB FITTING WITH A BELL SWINGSPEED ANALYZER, A DEFLECTION BOARD, SOME CONTACT TAPE & A GOOD EDUCATED EYE
The shfts that I have played are in my driver for the last 6 or 7 years have all been similar. The odd combination of low torque and and a low kick point. This allows me to hit a low lofted driver and really make sure my impact position is on the way up.
The problem with Trackmans is they measure spin not necessarily back spin
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Quote Originally Posted by QMICH:
I REALLY ENJOY READING GOLF PRODUCT BLOGS LIKE THIS.
IT SEEMS THAT MOST ADVANCED TO PROFESSIONAL PLAYERS HAVE A GOOD GRASP ON WHAT SHAFTS FIT & PERFORM THE BEST FOR THEIR GAME. BUT WHAT SOME OF THOSE BETTER PLAYERS TEND TO FORGET IS THAT TORQUE AS WELL AS A LOWER FLEX POINT ARE NORMALLY THE AVERAGE GOLFERS BEST FRIENDS
TRACKMANS ARE GREAT, BUT SOMEONE THAT KNOWS EXACTLY WHAT THEY ARE DOING CAN PERFORM A PROPER CLUB FITTING WITH A BELL SWINGSPEED ANALYZER, A DEFLECTION BOARD, SOME CONTACT TAPE & A GOOD EDUCATED EYE
The shfts that I have played are in my driver for the last 6 or 7 years have all been similar. The odd combination of low torque and and a low kick point. This allows me to hit a low lofted driver and really make sure my impact position is on the way up.
The problem with Trackmans is they measure spin not necessarily back spin
I play the UST Attas, (70x) The Orange and white one u see on tv (I know Cink plays it) I played the red Accra forever but Mamiya started making their stuff in Canada an its gone down hill in hurry
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I play the UST Attas, (70x) The Orange and white one u see on tv (I know Cink plays it) I played the red Accra forever but Mamiya started making their stuff in Canada an its gone down hill in hurry
I REALLY ENJOY READING GOLF PRODUCT BLOGS LIKE THIS.
IT SEEMS THAT MOST ADVANCED TO PROFESSIONAL PLAYERS HAVE A GOOD GRASP ON WHAT SHAFTS FIT & PERFORM THE BEST FOR THEIR GAME. BUT WHAT SOME OF THOSE BETTER PLAYERS TEND TO FORGET IS THAT TORQUE AS WELL AS A LOWER FLEX POINT ARE NORMALLY THE AVERAGE GOLFERS BEST FRIENDS
TRACKMANS ARE GREAT, BUT SOMEONE THAT KNOWS EXACTLY WHAT THEY ARE DOING CAN PERFORM A PROPER CLUB FITTING WITH A BELL SWINGSPEED ANALYZER, A DEFLECTION BOARD, SOME CONTACT TAPE & A GOOD EDUCATED EYE
And they call me old timer
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Quote Originally Posted by QMICH:
I REALLY ENJOY READING GOLF PRODUCT BLOGS LIKE THIS.
IT SEEMS THAT MOST ADVANCED TO PROFESSIONAL PLAYERS HAVE A GOOD GRASP ON WHAT SHAFTS FIT & PERFORM THE BEST FOR THEIR GAME. BUT WHAT SOME OF THOSE BETTER PLAYERS TEND TO FORGET IS THAT TORQUE AS WELL AS A LOWER FLEX POINT ARE NORMALLY THE AVERAGE GOLFERS BEST FRIENDS
TRACKMANS ARE GREAT, BUT SOMEONE THAT KNOWS EXACTLY WHAT THEY ARE DOING CAN PERFORM A PROPER CLUB FITTING WITH A BELL SWINGSPEED ANALYZER, A DEFLECTION BOARD, SOME CONTACT TAPE & A GOOD EDUCATED EYE
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