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I have been asking, baiting, YELLING at him all season to talk FOOTBALL! His response is you are not my customer, I OWE you nothing, I can not WIN typing up a storm on why I pick my games, yet in years past, this guy is one of the BEST in debating his picks, this year he choses NOT to do that because he CAN NOT argue on his pick selection at all. In one of the weeks, he was talking about pass rush is ONE of the KEY ingredients in his process to making picks, that week he took the Panthers who was trash on defense and a Broncos team who was smashing especially their pass rush, questioned him about it, was really into just picking his brain, yet all he was replying with was non sense, you are not a paying customer, I owe you nothing, I will not engage on why I pick shit teams. Another week he was typing up how when favs are winning he won't be having success, I notice he was sneaking in more than enough shares of favs, his response was even more insane, I zigged when I should have zagged. This was the weeks when he was posting PROCESS >>> RESULTS. I was super confuse process over results then how can one preach on process over results, questioned him those weeks then his whole tone changed for the worst. His Army got on me about where are my picks, he is the nicest guy around. Is he really? Dude was a clown when he just came on to covers, found success and became one of the worse vibes on covers! Around this time I am on X and found his account, man let tell you guys, when I saw the rumor he was working for the books like a bad influencers, it all started to click and make sense to me. Taking underdogs is one thing, but taking underdogs without any reason, without any players, taking them when there aren't any stats or trends or injuries supporting is CRAZY! I did not understand why he wouldn't talk FOOTBALL, after everything, I get it, how can he explain why he is taking these teams, because he can't! Bringing LOTS of money in on games the books can not find action with, and teams no one wants to take! Horrible! 4caster is a real site, I finally made the waitlist, while it might seem a little cheaper than most books, it is FAR from NO JUICE! and sadly the games he post the .25 or .75, those games are normally averaging around -113 or higher, factor that and the fact he does not post his record, big marketing gimmick if you ask me. He is a high volume player, the juice would eat up 20-30% of his profit if he is WINNING! Let alone when he is losing. I wasn't sure why I was send to covers jail 2 weeks ago, it really upset me, I been here for years, this is an open space, especially on an open gambling site with a forum. It should be fair game after my interaction and engagement with him I share what I have found out, save a lot of people that blindly follows him. Bad streaks is one thing, bad people doing bad things is a whole different topic. Do not ever blindly follow someone, one never know their true intentions and their motivation behind what they are doing. Happy Holidays.
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vanzack | 222 |
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Quote Originally Posted by BET2WIN4:
Quote Originally Posted by vanzack: Road favs in the NFL are 34-8 this season. I cannot win under these circumstances. Carry on. At some point we all just wish you can be honest! Not duck around some make believe non sense you always pad yourself with. Week 1- Falcons -3.25 1.5u was Fav that lost. -1.5 units Week 2- Dolphins -2.5 1.5u was Fav that lost. Cowboys -6 2u was a Fav that lost. Texans -6.5 1.5u was a Fav that lost. -5 units I can go on for all 16 weeks that you have lost more than you are admitting on favs, especially road favs. You just betting no one will waste their time calculating your numbers. This is not including the times you betting Favs and won. Of the -30 or whatever units you are down, more than you want to tell everyone is losing on Favs, factor that with the times you have won betting on favs, what you say just does not add up? You are having a horrible season because you can't win, stop blaming Road favs or Favs because you have been losing BETS on them all year! Just this week Eagles were Road Favs, in week #10 when you really ate it, 49ers were road favs, the Vikings were road favs, the commanders home favs all were your picks and LOST! 34-8 and just week 10 and this past week you have 3 of the 8 L's? Everyone goes through a streak, if you stay humble maybe you won't be the shit with all these flies around you. or You doing this on purpose like MRxKrazz keep saying, influencers are real, make lots of money on the all major platforms, you have a decent following, how much are you getting paid to post what you post? 80+ hour week, correct? Every week you pick and chose to avoid the mark key matchups, and roll with games that have 3rd string QB playing a team that no one want to watch. How do you use your last 7 years of winning to get any positive information and supportive trends betting those shitty teams with their start players out rolling with their 3rd string players? Perfect example HOW DID you find any thing that can support betting the RAIDERS? 3rd string QB on a losing streak on a team that SUCKS without their STAR Defensive Linemen Crosby? People here that are on you are on you for a reason. YOU aren't who you make up to be. Only reason I am even bothering with this is you are making people go BROKE with your non sense! If you care about these low IQ people like you do with Animal in the shelters, you should tell everyone the truth, either you did get bought out or you aren't who you type yourself up to be! Let everyone have a a Merry Xmas and Happy New Year! enough of 80+ hours a week, BTC is everything and losing is just a grind of sand on the beach. |
vanzack | 222 |
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@Cooler999 Listen one last time! I never said he is picking and choosing to lose on purpose, what I said is he has been paid by the BIG BOYs, basically sold his name on covers to draw in fish bets for the books. U take it how u want, but watch ur mouth when u want to talk shit |
vanzack | 78 |
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@ActionMagnet It’s not extended if it’s forever, I truly believe the rumor that he got paid handsomely to post picks to help the books. I caught him talking about one thing and doing another multiple times this season he even admitted himself. Who in their right mind would bet crappy teams over n over again. One do not go from god mode to bum mode over night, it not easy to be doing what he is doing, 60/40 or 40/60 is about average the way he is doing it, it’s sad he don’t hint off to his following about him being paid n him having to post those plays |
vanzack | 78 |
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Nothing new thoo! Same Geno since day one in the league, it’s not even the decision making, no pocket pressure awareness, low football IQ, super unathletic
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BayArea342 | 9 |
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At least free voice not getting swept this week @friendofBW This isn’t the same Van, he is posting for the books! As hard as it is to win it’s just as hard to lose the way he is |
vanzack | 78 |
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geNO win |
PUSSYGALORE333 | 67 |
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Geno is the most unathletic black QB I have ever seen, that’s 2 sack ending drives in a row. Long day for seabirds money tonight |
PUSSYGALORE333 | 67 |
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Besides the so call home field, nothing left with seabirds this game, sadly. |
Morrissey | 15 |
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@Michigan_D Trolls? But you use to add the word vig urself or do we have another vanzach |
Michigan_D | 24 |
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This game is over before I got my first drink |
PUSSYGALORE333 | 67 |
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@vanzach u is too much but do so with ur real account |
vanzach | 17 |
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L7 plays BOL |
Taipei-Tony | 8 |
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Packers are the better team but never plays well in Seattle |
ULLafayettekid | 7 |
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Still shocked no one came out with a my life savings on buffalo today |
FillyFlier16 | 10 |
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u need to get TT going to get ur mojo back
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Michigan_D | 24 |
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Bills were showing you everything you wanted to see so betting Lions 2nd half made no sense |
Blb | 20 |
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BornToDie | 8 |
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@Punkassmutha I am truly shocked there weren’t more Bills money today |
Punkassmutha | 7 |
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@Taipei-Tony Not around today? Lions another shaky pick? U didn’t really make that pick due to why not Lions did u? Would love to hear from u more in details. Even the Packers tonight seem to be the better play |
Taipei-Tony | 15 |
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