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created a topic Need to win 1 BIG bet in Las Vegas Hi I will be in Vegas jan 3-6. I plan to place 1 bet for 20 grand. I have friends with me so we can each bet 5 grand for they total. This is serious. Bet a game .?.... Which one. Please help View Post \| View Thread	onetimer	6	December 29, 2012 View Post \| View Thread
created a topic Betting 100k,sat on 1 game. What is best play ,. No text in College Football View Post \| View Thread	onetimer	53	October 25, 2012 View Post \| View Thread
created a topic This looks too simple in College Football This seems too easy. I want to bet 4 games @ 100 each. Instead I take the 4 games and randomly play two 2 team parlays for $100 each for a total $200 risk Now let's look at possible outcomes 4-0 betting each game . risked 400 made 364 parlay risked 200 made 510 3-1 betting each game risked 400 made 160 parlay risked 200 made 160 2-2 betting each game risked 400 lost 18 parlay risk 200 Possible win 160 possible lose 200 1-3 betting each game risk 400 lose 209 parlay risk 200 lose 200 0-4 betting each game risk lose 400 lose 400 parlay risk 200 lose 200 In 4 of the 5 possible outomes , I do much better with the parlay. AM I MISSING SOMETHING?????? View Post \| View Thread	onetimer	2	October 03, 2010 View Post \| View Thread
created a topic my Only play of the year. GEORGIA FOR 25k . nt in College Football View Post \| View Thread	onetimer	12	September 29, 2010 View Post \| View Thread
created a topic Trying to win $10,000 in Gaming Industry - US Need some advice from all you veterans. I am going to Vegas first week in april. I need $10,000 to start a new business. I have 2 grand and want to either leave there with my 10 K or lose the 2 K. I will be there for a week and plan on having a good time regardless. I know this is a longshot, but any advice on what my gameplan should be??? View Post \| View Thread	onetimer	3	March 03, 2010 View Post \| View Thread
replied to 2.5 run line in vegas in MLB Betting anywhere in vegas? View Post \| View Thread	onetimer	9	May 07, 2009 View Post \| View Thread
created a topic 2.5 run line in vegas in MLB Betting does anyone know a book on the strip in vegas that offers 2.5 run lines in baseball? View Post \| View Thread	onetimer	9	May 05, 2009 View Post \| View Thread
replied to Betting Stratgegy. Is it this easy in College Basketball Quote Originally Posted by FreakyFresh: It's not worth it guys, unless you are extremely good at capping, in like the 99th percentile. Why do you think the books offer it? It's not because it's suppose to go unknown as a secret for you to make money off of, it is for people to get suckered. The payout to break even on average would be 3-1 for a two team parlay (granted you cap t 50%). As you add additional games to parlays, 3 teams e.g. then the payout should be (the previous odds *2 + 1) so it should be 7-1 for a 3 team parlay. For a 4 team parlay it should be 15-1, and etc. What you will notice is that as you go up, the payout odds from the books start to get further and further away from what they should be giving them a huge house advantage. If any of you have a question about whether you should parlay, I have created a spreadsheets that calculates expected returns and all that. Just give a holler at what you want. But even before that I should say just don't do it in the first place. Freaky Fresh, Your own data which is great work by the way proves that if you hit 54% of your picks, the 2 team parlay is the way to go. I mean come on, if you can't hit 54% of your picks, then WHY in the hell are we wasting our time llosing money. I dont't believe the outrageous claims of 70% or better, but come on, 54 % Better damn be doable or we are screwed.. Can you post that parlay data you were speaking or just send it to me... View Post \| View Thread	onetimer	39	January 30, 2009 View Post \| View Thread
replied to Is it this easy in NBA Betting Quote Originally Posted by blaccsteel: Is this correct math Now you take each the expected % of each outcome and multiply it by it's return so and add them up for an average return on a bet.. Straight Betting 4-0 .... 6.25% * $400 3-0 .... 25% * $160 2-2 .... 37.5% * -$18 1-3 .... 25% * -$209 0-4 .... 6.25% * -$400 Add them up for an average return and you have -$21.25 which divided by the 400 you laid down on them your return on average is -5.31% of your bet Now Parlay Style 4-0 .... 6.25% * $510 3-1 .... 25% * $160 2-2 .... 12.5% * $160 2-2 .... 25% * -$200 1-3 .... 25% * -$200 0-4 .... 6.25% * -$200 Your average return here is -$20.63, which is less than the average return on the straight bet.. but you only laid 200 bucks down so the average return is a monterous -10.3% of your bet ... almost twice greater than a straight bet View Post \| View Thread	onetimer	9	January 28, 2009 View Post \| View Thread
replied to Betting Stratgegy. Is it this easy in College Basketball Quote Originally Posted by robb2859: THE ONLY PEOPLE DUDE WHO LIKE PARLAYS ARE THE GUY U SQUARE UP WITH EVERY WEEK, TRUST ME, BEEN DOING THIS 30 PLUS YRS i RESPECT THAT, THAT Iis why I am asking ,where is the fallacy in this. I assume thsi is the WRONG way to bet, but why it it. View Post \| View Thread	onetimer	39	January 28, 2009 View Post \| View Thread
replied to Betting Stratgegy. Is it this easy in College Basketball Quote Originally Posted by robb2859: 1st off laying 120 to win 280 on a 2 team parlay, if u split the 2 games u LOSE 120!!, IF U BET BOTH GAMES STRAIGHT UP AND SPLIY U LOSE 10 BUCKS!! Read it closer. tHIS IS TAKING 4 TEAMS YOU REALLY LIKE AND RANDOMLEY PLACING 2 OF THEM IN ONE PARLAY AND TWO IN ANOTHER. YOUR RISK IS 200 ON A PAR AND 400 BETTING THEM STRAIGHT View Post \| View Thread	onetimer	39	January 28, 2009 View Post \| View Thread
replied to Is it this easy in NBA Betting seriously guys. does this make sense? Quote Originally Posted by onetimer: This seems too easy. I want to bet 4 games @ 100 each. Instead I randomly play 2 Par 2's Now let's look at possible outcomes 4-0 betting each game . risked 400 made 364 parlay risked 200 made 510 3-1 betting each game risked 400 made 160 parlay risked 200 made 160 2-2 betting each game risked 400 lost 18 parlay risk 200 Possible win 160 possible lose 200 1-3 betting each game risk 400 lose 209 parlay risk 200 lose 200 0-4 betting each game risk lose 400 lose 400 parlay risk 200 lose 200 In 4 of the 5 possible outomes , I do much better with the parlay. AM I MISSING SOMETHING?????? View Post \| View Thread	onetimer	9	January 28, 2009 View Post \| View Thread
replied to Betting Stratgegy. Is it this easy in College Basketball Quote Originally Posted by robb2859: are u missing something?? yea, keep betting parlays and u will be missing ur money!!! serioulsy. look at the examples and tell me WHY it is wrong to be them that way View Post \| View Thread	onetimer	39	January 27, 2009 View Post \| View Thread
replied to Betting Stratgegy. Is it this easy in College Basketball Quote Originally Posted by hey4: what about the 4 teams doing a round robin parlay and lowering the wager if half? can you explain that for a dummy View Post \| View Thread	onetimer	39	January 27, 2009 View Post \| View Thread
replied to Betting Stratgegy. Is it this easy in College Basketball Quote Originally Posted by hey4: if you go 2-2 how could you win 160 or lose 200? if you happen to have the 2 winners together in a parlay you win 260 but lose 100 for a 160 profit. if the two winners are in seperate parlays you lose 200 View Post \| View Thread	onetimer	39	January 27, 2009 View Post \| View Thread
created a topic Is it this easy in NBA Betting This seems too easy. I want to bet 4 games @ 100 each. Instead I randomly play 2 Par 2's Now let's look at possible outcomes 4-0 betting each game . risked 400 made 364 parlay risked 200 made 510 3-1 betting each game risked 400 made 160 parlay risked 200 made 160 2-2 betting each game risked 400 lost 18 parlay risk 200 Possible win 160 possible lose 200 1-3 betting each game risk 400 lose 209 parlay risk 200 lose 200 0-4 betting each game risk lose 400 lose 400 parlay risk 200 lose 200 In 4 of the 5 possible outomes , I do much better with the parlay. AM I MISSING SOMETHING?????? View Post \| View Thread	onetimer	9	January 27, 2009 View Post \| View Thread
created a topic Betting Stratgegy. Is it this easy in College Basketball This seems too easy. I want to bet 4 games @ 100 each. Instead I randomly play 2 Par 2's Now let's look at possible outcomes 4-0 betting each game . risked 400 made 364 parlay risked 200 made 510 3-1 betting each game risked 400 made 160 parlay risked 200 made 160 2-2 betting each game risked 400 lost 18 parlay risk 200 Possible win 160 possible lose 200 1-3 betting each game risk 400 lose 209 parlay risk 200 lose 200 0-4 betting each game risk lose 400 lose 400 parlay risk 200 lose 200 In 4 of the 5 possible outomes , I do much better with the parlay. AM I MISSING SOMETHING?????? View Post \| View Thread	onetimer	39	January 27, 2009 View Post \| View Thread
created a topic Logans payouts in College Football the website for Logans sportsbook says payouts take 4-8 WEEKS to be delivered. UNbelievable. What book give the fatest service on payouts View Post \| View Thread	onetimer	3	January 04, 2009 View Post \| View Thread
replied to Here is the ONETIMER play for this week in College Football c Quote Originally Posted by onetimer: The ONETIMER play for this week is the ALABAMA CRIMSON TIDE -5 vs. Tennessee Good Luck to all congrats to all who played the Crimson Tide. IF you played the ONETIMER way, you had a winning weekend. View Post \| View Thread	onetimer	5	October 26, 2008 View Post \| View Thread
created a topic Here is the ONETIMER play for this week in College Football The ONETIMER play for this week is the ALABAMA CRIMSON TIDE -5 vs. Tennessee Good Luck to all View Post \| View Thread	onetimer	5	October 25, 2008 View Post \| View Thread

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created a topic Need to win 1 BIG bet in Las Vegas Hi I will be in Vegas jan 3-6. I plan to place 1 bet for 20 grand. I have friends with me so we can each bet 5 grand for they total. This is serious. Bet a game .?.... Which one. Please help View Post \| View Thread	onetimer	6	December 29, 2012 View Post \| View Thread
created a topic Betting 100k,sat on 1 game. What is best play ,. No text in College Football View Post \| View Thread	onetimer	53	October 25, 2012 View Post \| View Thread
created a topic This looks too simple in College Football This seems too easy. I want to bet 4 games @ 100 each. Instead I take the 4 games and randomly play two 2 team parlays for $100 each for a total $200 risk Now let's look at possible outcomes 4-0 betting each game . risked 400 made 364 parlay risked 200 made 510 3-1 betting each game risked 400 made 160 parlay risked 200 made 160 2-2 betting each game risked 400 lost 18 parlay risk 200 Possible win 160 possible lose 200 1-3 betting each game risk 400 lose 209 parlay risk 200 lose 200 0-4 betting each game risk lose 400 lose 400 parlay risk 200 lose 200 In 4 of the 5 possible outomes , I do much better with the parlay. AM I MISSING SOMETHING?????? View Post \| View Thread	onetimer	2	October 03, 2010 View Post \| View Thread
created a topic my Only play of the year. GEORGIA FOR 25k . nt in College Football View Post \| View Thread	onetimer	12	September 29, 2010 View Post \| View Thread
created a topic Trying to win $10,000 in Gaming Industry - US Need some advice from all you veterans. I am going to Vegas first week in april. I need $10,000 to start a new business. I have 2 grand and want to either leave there with my 10 K or lose the 2 K. I will be there for a week and plan on having a good time regardless. I know this is a longshot, but any advice on what my gameplan should be??? View Post \| View Thread	onetimer	3	March 03, 2010 View Post \| View Thread
replied to 2.5 run line in vegas in MLB Betting anywhere in vegas? View Post \| View Thread	onetimer	9	May 07, 2009 View Post \| View Thread
created a topic 2.5 run line in vegas in MLB Betting does anyone know a book on the strip in vegas that offers 2.5 run lines in baseball? View Post \| View Thread	onetimer	9	May 05, 2009 View Post \| View Thread
replied to Betting Stratgegy. Is it this easy in College Basketball Quote Originally Posted by FreakyFresh: It's not worth it guys, unless you are extremely good at capping, in like the 99th percentile. Why do you think the books offer it? It's not because it's suppose to go unknown as a secret for you to make money off of, it is for people to get suckered. The payout to break even on average would be 3-1 for a two team parlay (granted you cap t 50%). As you add additional games to parlays, 3 teams e.g. then the payout should be (the previous odds *2 + 1) so it should be 7-1 for a 3 team parlay. For a 4 team parlay it should be 15-1, and etc. What you will notice is that as you go up, the payout odds from the books start to get further and further away from what they should be giving them a huge house advantage. If any of you have a question about whether you should parlay, I have created a spreadsheets that calculates expected returns and all that. Just give a holler at what you want. But even before that I should say just don't do it in the first place. Freaky Fresh, Your own data which is great work by the way proves that if you hit 54% of your picks, the 2 team parlay is the way to go. I mean come on, if you can't hit 54% of your picks, then WHY in the hell are we wasting our time llosing money. I dont't believe the outrageous claims of 70% or better, but come on, 54 % Better damn be doable or we are screwed.. Can you post that parlay data you were speaking or just send it to me... View Post \| View Thread	onetimer	39	January 30, 2009 View Post \| View Thread
replied to Is it this easy in NBA Betting Quote Originally Posted by blaccsteel: Is this correct math Now you take each the expected % of each outcome and multiply it by it's return so and add them up for an average return on a bet.. Straight Betting 4-0 .... 6.25% * $400 3-0 .... 25% * $160 2-2 .... 37.5% * -$18 1-3 .... 25% * -$209 0-4 .... 6.25% * -$400 Add them up for an average return and you have -$21.25 which divided by the 400 you laid down on them your return on average is -5.31% of your bet Now Parlay Style 4-0 .... 6.25% * $510 3-1 .... 25% * $160 2-2 .... 12.5% * $160 2-2 .... 25% * -$200 1-3 .... 25% * -$200 0-4 .... 6.25% * -$200 Your average return here is -$20.63, which is less than the average return on the straight bet.. but you only laid 200 bucks down so the average return is a monterous -10.3% of your bet ... almost twice greater than a straight bet View Post \| View Thread	onetimer	9	January 28, 2009 View Post \| View Thread
replied to Betting Stratgegy. Is it this easy in College Basketball Quote Originally Posted by robb2859: THE ONLY PEOPLE DUDE WHO LIKE PARLAYS ARE THE GUY U SQUARE UP WITH EVERY WEEK, TRUST ME, BEEN DOING THIS 30 PLUS YRS i RESPECT THAT, THAT Iis why I am asking ,where is the fallacy in this. I assume thsi is the WRONG way to bet, but why it it. View Post \| View Thread	onetimer	39	January 28, 2009 View Post \| View Thread
replied to Betting Stratgegy. Is it this easy in College Basketball Quote Originally Posted by robb2859: 1st off laying 120 to win 280 on a 2 team parlay, if u split the 2 games u LOSE 120!!, IF U BET BOTH GAMES STRAIGHT UP AND SPLIY U LOSE 10 BUCKS!! Read it closer. tHIS IS TAKING 4 TEAMS YOU REALLY LIKE AND RANDOMLEY PLACING 2 OF THEM IN ONE PARLAY AND TWO IN ANOTHER. YOUR RISK IS 200 ON A PAR AND 400 BETTING THEM STRAIGHT View Post \| View Thread	onetimer	39	January 28, 2009 View Post \| View Thread
replied to Is it this easy in NBA Betting seriously guys. does this make sense? Quote Originally Posted by onetimer: This seems too easy. I want to bet 4 games @ 100 each. Instead I randomly play 2 Par 2's Now let's look at possible outcomes 4-0 betting each game . risked 400 made 364 parlay risked 200 made 510 3-1 betting each game risked 400 made 160 parlay risked 200 made 160 2-2 betting each game risked 400 lost 18 parlay risk 200 Possible win 160 possible lose 200 1-3 betting each game risk 400 lose 209 parlay risk 200 lose 200 0-4 betting each game risk lose 400 lose 400 parlay risk 200 lose 200 In 4 of the 5 possible outomes , I do much better with the parlay. AM I MISSING SOMETHING?????? View Post \| View Thread	onetimer	9	January 28, 2009 View Post \| View Thread
replied to Betting Stratgegy. Is it this easy in College Basketball Quote Originally Posted by robb2859: are u missing something?? yea, keep betting parlays and u will be missing ur money!!! serioulsy. look at the examples and tell me WHY it is wrong to be them that way View Post \| View Thread	onetimer	39	January 27, 2009 View Post \| View Thread
replied to Betting Stratgegy. Is it this easy in College Basketball Quote Originally Posted by hey4: what about the 4 teams doing a round robin parlay and lowering the wager if half? can you explain that for a dummy View Post \| View Thread	onetimer	39	January 27, 2009 View Post \| View Thread
replied to Betting Stratgegy. Is it this easy in College Basketball Quote Originally Posted by hey4: if you go 2-2 how could you win 160 or lose 200? if you happen to have the 2 winners together in a parlay you win 260 but lose 100 for a 160 profit. if the two winners are in seperate parlays you lose 200 View Post \| View Thread	onetimer	39	January 27, 2009 View Post \| View Thread
created a topic Is it this easy in NBA Betting This seems too easy. I want to bet 4 games @ 100 each. Instead I randomly play 2 Par 2's Now let's look at possible outcomes 4-0 betting each game . risked 400 made 364 parlay risked 200 made 510 3-1 betting each game risked 400 made 160 parlay risked 200 made 160 2-2 betting each game risked 400 lost 18 parlay risk 200 Possible win 160 possible lose 200 1-3 betting each game risk 400 lose 209 parlay risk 200 lose 200 0-4 betting each game risk lose 400 lose 400 parlay risk 200 lose 200 In 4 of the 5 possible outomes , I do much better with the parlay. AM I MISSING SOMETHING?????? View Post \| View Thread	onetimer	9	January 27, 2009 View Post \| View Thread
created a topic Betting Stratgegy. Is it this easy in College Basketball This seems too easy. I want to bet 4 games @ 100 each. Instead I randomly play 2 Par 2's Now let's look at possible outcomes 4-0 betting each game . risked 400 made 364 parlay risked 200 made 510 3-1 betting each game risked 400 made 160 parlay risked 200 made 160 2-2 betting each game risked 400 lost 18 parlay risk 200 Possible win 160 possible lose 200 1-3 betting each game risk 400 lose 209 parlay risk 200 lose 200 0-4 betting each game risk lose 400 lose 400 parlay risk 200 lose 200 In 4 of the 5 possible outomes , I do much better with the parlay. AM I MISSING SOMETHING?????? View Post \| View Thread	onetimer	39	January 27, 2009 View Post \| View Thread
created a topic Logans payouts in College Football the website for Logans sportsbook says payouts take 4-8 WEEKS to be delivered. UNbelievable. What book give the fatest service on payouts View Post \| View Thread	onetimer	3	January 04, 2009 View Post \| View Thread
replied to Here is the ONETIMER play for this week in College Football c Quote Originally Posted by onetimer: The ONETIMER play for this week is the ALABAMA CRIMSON TIDE -5 vs. Tennessee Good Luck to all congrats to all who played the Crimson Tide. IF you played the ONETIMER way, you had a winning weekend. View Post \| View Thread	onetimer	5	October 26, 2008 View Post \| View Thread
created a topic Here is the ONETIMER play for this week in College Football The ONETIMER play for this week is the ALABAMA CRIMSON TIDE -5 vs. Tennessee Good Luck to all View Post \| View Thread	onetimer	5	October 25, 2008 View Post \| View Thread

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