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    vanzack
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    Posted: Jun. 25, 2014 - 8:53 AM ET #876

    Quote Originally Posted by TheSource2Win:

    Hey Van... Respect.

    So are you thinking Tina and Nigeria will Draw?  I understand the angle of how both advance but I fear that Tina may want to show a bit more headed into the knockout stage, especially after Brazil's performance yesterday.  I dunno... I fear a 2-0 or 3-1 game. 

    I am thinking that Argentina has not shown very much ability to break down team wanting to play defense against them - and I do see Nigeria taking a very defensive posture today.  I also think that Argentina's weakness is clearly their defense on counterattack (just look at what Iran did to them with really only one man dedicated to attack), and Nigeria have the speed and skill to create chances and finish.

    I do not "think" this will be a draw....  I do think Argentina is rightly favored - but the price I can get on a +1 is too good....  And especially today you can get +1 and +1.5....  Even better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheSource2Win:

    Hey Van... Respect.

    So are you thinking Tina and Nigeria will Draw?  I understand the angle of how both advance but I fear that Tina may want to show a bit more headed into the knockout stage, especially after Brazil's performance yesterday.  I dunno... I fear a 2-0 or 3-1 game. 

    I am thinking that Argentina has not shown very much ability to break down team wanting to play defense against them - and I do see Nigeria taking a very defensive posture today.  I also think that Argentina's weakness is clearly their defense on counterattack (just look at what Iran did to them with really only one man dedicated to attack), and Nigeria have the speed and skill to create chances and finish.

    I do not "think" this will be a draw....  I do think Argentina is rightly favored - but the price I can get on a +1 is too good....  And especially today you can get +1 and +1.5....  Even better.

     
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    Posted: Jun. 25, 2014 - 8:57 AM ET #877

    Quote Originally Posted by yestoeverything:

    Initially I thought CIV were robbed, but this replay clearly shows the defender using his knee to catch the leg of the Greek forward. It was a proper call.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XnxO-rtj25E

    I don't want to lump all African teams together - but it is really hard to ignore their defensive lapses.  They are different than most other countries in that they play well for 88 of the 90 minutes, but for 2 minutes of every game they make inexplicable errors or just go to sleep and it causes them to lose.

    There is no way that should happen.  But if you look at why Cameroon, IC, Ghana, and potentially Nigeria will be going home - it is because you can point at some defensive errors that were against the run of play that cause them results.

    I just don't understand why or why it cant be fixed....

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    Quote Originally Posted by yestoeverything:

    Initially I thought CIV were robbed, but this replay clearly shows the defender using his knee to catch the leg of the Greek forward. It was a proper call.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XnxO-rtj25E

    I don't want to lump all African teams together - but it is really hard to ignore their defensive lapses.  They are different than most other countries in that they play well for 88 of the 90 minutes, but for 2 minutes of every game they make inexplicable errors or just go to sleep and it causes them to lose.

    There is no way that should happen.  But if you look at why Cameroon, IC, Ghana, and potentially Nigeria will be going home - it is because you can point at some defensive errors that were against the run of play that cause them results.

    I just don't understand why or why it cant be fixed....

     
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    Posted: Jun. 25, 2014 - 9:09 AM ET #878

    Quote Originally Posted by Kurshka:

    Missed that Ranger. Train what are you talking about? 

    You can play the draw and it does not have to go under. But even though I think your a troll I bet a few bucks on the draw.
    Most likely draws in this match are 0-0 & 1-1......I seriously doubt there is 2 goals both ways.

    Fyi, I had Uraguay ML yesterday.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kurshka:

    Missed that Ranger. Train what are you talking about? 

    You can play the draw and it does not have to go under. But even though I think your a troll I bet a few bucks on the draw.
    Most likely draws in this match are 0-0 & 1-1......I seriously doubt there is 2 goals both ways.

    Fyi, I had Uraguay ML yesterday.
     
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    Posted: Jun. 25, 2014 - 9:26 AM ET #879

    Quote Originally Posted by yestoeverything:

    The draw between US and Germany looks good. Both teams advance. The opposing coaches have a mentor/protege relationship.

    A wink, a nod, and a mutual agreement to live to fight another day.
    no wink or nod required here - everyone knows what will happen , it's a 0-0 boring tie with Ghana screaming foul play - Brazil / chile should be fun , roll la roja
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    Quote Originally Posted by yestoeverything:

    The draw between US and Germany looks good. Both teams advance. The opposing coaches have a mentor/protege relationship.

    A wink, a nod, and a mutual agreement to live to fight another day.
    no wink or nod required here - everyone knows what will happen , it's a 0-0 boring tie with Ghana screaming foul play - Brazil / chile should be fun , roll la roja
     
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    Posted: Jun. 25, 2014 - 9:53 AM ET #880

    Quote Originally Posted by micalf:

    He will not be suspended from playing for liverpool, he will face a penalty of a maximum of 24 games which will only effect his international eligibility.


    You can't be seriously saying there won't be repercussions of this latest biting incident at Liverpool. They are duty bound to act! Watch.
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    Quote Originally Posted by micalf:

    He will not be suspended from playing for liverpool, he will face a penalty of a maximum of 24 games which will only effect his international eligibility.


    You can't be seriously saying there won't be repercussions of this latest biting incident at Liverpool. They are duty bound to act! Watch.
     
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    Posted: Jun. 25, 2014 - 9:54 AM ET #881

    I apologise for jumping the gun yestoeverything, vasilli is correct that FIFA do have the authority to make it a global ban, but it is a very rare and correct me if im wrong but i dont ever actually remember a ban incurred in a international match carrying over to club football.
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    I apologise for jumping the gun yestoeverything, vasilli is correct that FIFA do have the authority to make it a global ban, but it is a very rare and correct me if im wrong but i dont ever actually remember a ban incurred in a international match carrying over to club football.
     
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    Posted: Jun. 25, 2014 - 9:57 AM ET #882

    Quote Originally Posted by Learnersrealm:



    You can't be seriously saying there won't be repercussions of this latest biting incident at Liverpool. They are duty bound to act! Watch.

    We are talking about FIFA suspending him here not about liverpool taking action.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Learnersrealm:



    You can't be seriously saying there won't be repercussions of this latest biting incident at Liverpool. They are duty bound to act! Watch.

    We are talking about FIFA suspending him here not about liverpool taking action.
     
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    Posted: Jun. 25, 2014 - 10:22 AM ET #883

    Liverpool are holding a press conference today. Of course they will take action. It's absurd to think otherwise.
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    Liverpool are holding a press conference today. Of course they will take action. It's absurd to think otherwise.
     
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    Posted: Jun. 25, 2014 - 10:25 AM ET #884

    lol whatever man, i never said they wouldnt take action, i am saying that i find it unfair for "FIFA" to ban him from playing for Liverpool, im not going to continue to flood van's thread with this nonsense.
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    lol whatever man, i never said they wouldnt take action, i am saying that i find it unfair for "FIFA" to ban him from playing for Liverpool, im not going to continue to flood van's thread with this nonsense.
     
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    Posted: Jun. 25, 2014 - 10:30 AM ET #885

    The repercussions of Suarez's actions will not be limited to International football duty. That you can be certain.
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    The repercussions of Suarez's actions will not be limited to International football duty. That you can be certain.
     
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    Posted: Jun. 25, 2014 - 1:01 PM ET #886

    Messi is sensational.
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    Messi is sensational.
     
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    Posted: Jun. 25, 2014 - 1:36 PM ET #887

    This is Vanzack's thread.  Argue about biting somewhere else.
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    This is Vanzack's thread.  Argue about biting somewhere else.
     
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    Posted: Jun. 25, 2014 - 1:56 PM ET #888

    Good start - hopefully most here picked up a half win with Nigeria as the line was +1 and +1.5 before gametime....

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    Good start - hopefully most here picked up a half win with Nigeria as the line was +1 and +1.5 before gametime....

     
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    Posted: Jun. 25, 2014 - 1:56 PM ET #889

    Great pick on the Iran Over. 
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    Great pick on the Iran Over. 
     
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    Posted: Jun. 25, 2014 - 3:27 PM ET #890

    Quote Originally Posted by TRAIN69:

    Most likely draws in this match are 0-0 & 1-1......I seriously doubt there is 2 goals both ways.

    Fyi, I had Uraguay ML yesterday.


    Glad you hit and GL for the rest of the games. 
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    Quote Originally Posted by TRAIN69:

    Most likely draws in this match are 0-0 & 1-1......I seriously doubt there is 2 goals both ways.

    Fyi, I had Uraguay ML yesterday.


    Glad you hit and GL for the rest of the games. 
     
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    Posted: Jun. 25, 2014 - 7:53 PM ET #891

    Game Bets:

    16.5 - 18 

    29.94 units up, 31.34 units down

     

    Brazil / Croatia – Under 2.5 goals -115 (1.5 units) - LOSS

    Mexico / Cameroon – Cameroon PK and +.5 -101 (1 unit) - LOSS

    Spain / Netherlands – Spain to win -112 (2 units) - LOSS

    Chile / Australia – Chile to win -215 (1 unit), Chile -1 -116 (1 unit) - WIN

    Greece / Columbia – Greece +.5 +105 (1.5 units) - LOSS

    Costa Rica / Uruguay – Under 2 and 2.5 -105 (1 unit) - LOSS

    Italy / England – Italy PK -114 (1 unit) - WIN

    Ivory Coast / Japan – Over 2 -125 (2 units) - WIN

    Ecuador / Switzerland – Switzerland to win +155 (1.5 units) - WIN

    France / Honduras - No bet

    Argentina / Bosnia - over 2.5 -115 (1 unit) - WIN

    Germany / Portugal - Under 2.5 -115 (1 unit) - LOSS

    Iran / Nigeria - No Bet

    Ghana / USA - over 2 and 2.5 +100 (1 unit) - WIN

    Belgium / Algeria - Under 2.5 +100 (1 unit) - LOSS

    Brazil / Mexico - Brazil -1.5 +100 (3 units) - LOSS

    Russia / S Korea - Russia to win +125 (2 units) - LOSS

    Australia / Netherlands - Australia +1.5 and +2 +100 (1 unit) - WIN

    Spain / Chile - No Bet

    Croatia / Cameroon - Croatia -160 (1.5 units) - WIN

    Colombia / Ivory Coast - Ivory Coast PK and +.5 +107 (2 units) - LOSS
    England / Uruguay - Uruguay PK and +.5 +103 (2 units) - WIN
    Greece / Japan - Greece PK and +.5 +103 (1.5 units) - HALF WIN

    Italy / Costa Rica - Italy -1 -110 (2 units) Italy to win -190 (1 unit) - LOSS
    France / Switzerland - France to win -130 (1.5 units) - WIN
    Ecuador / Honduras - Honduras +.5 and +1 +105 (1 unit) - HALF LOSS
    Argentina / Iran - NO BET
    Ghana / Germany - Germany -1.5 -105 (2.5 units) - LOSS
    Bosnia / Nigeria - Under 2.5 -112 (1.5 units) - WIN

    Belgium / Russia - Belgium to win -103 (3 units) - WIN
    Algeria / S Korea - Algeria PK and +.5 -110 (2 units) - WIN
    Portugal / USA - USA +.5 and +1 (1 unit) - WIN

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    Game Bets:

    16.5 - 18 

    29.94 units up, 31.34 units down

     

    Brazil / Croatia – Under 2.5 goals -115 (1.5 units) - LOSS

    Mexico / Cameroon – Cameroon PK and +.5 -101 (1 unit) - LOSS

    Spain / Netherlands – Spain to win -112 (2 units) - LOSS

    Chile / Australia – Chile to win -215 (1 unit), Chile -1 -116 (1 unit) - WIN

    Greece / Columbia – Greece +.5 +105 (1.5 units) - LOSS

    Costa Rica / Uruguay – Under 2 and 2.5 -105 (1 unit) - LOSS

    Italy / England – Italy PK -114 (1 unit) - WIN

    Ivory Coast / Japan – Over 2 -125 (2 units) - WIN

    Ecuador / Switzerland – Switzerland to win +155 (1.5 units) - WIN

    France / Honduras - No bet

    Argentina / Bosnia - over 2.5 -115 (1 unit) - WIN

    Germany / Portugal - Under 2.5 -115 (1 unit) - LOSS

    Iran / Nigeria - No Bet

    Ghana / USA - over 2 and 2.5 +100 (1 unit) - WIN

    Belgium / Algeria - Under 2.5 +100 (1 unit) - LOSS

    Brazil / Mexico - Brazil -1.5 +100 (3 units) - LOSS

    Russia / S Korea - Russia to win +125 (2 units) - LOSS

    Australia / Netherlands - Australia +1.5 and +2 +100 (1 unit) - WIN

    Spain / Chile - No Bet

    Croatia / Cameroon - Croatia -160 (1.5 units) - WIN

    Colombia / Ivory Coast - Ivory Coast PK and +.5 +107 (2 units) - LOSS
    England / Uruguay - Uruguay PK and +.5 +103 (2 units) - WIN
    Greece / Japan - Greece PK and +.5 +103 (1.5 units) - HALF WIN

    Italy / Costa Rica - Italy -1 -110 (2 units) Italy to win -190 (1 unit) - LOSS
    France / Switzerland - France to win -130 (1.5 units) - WIN
    Ecuador / Honduras - Honduras +.5 and +1 +105 (1 unit) - HALF LOSS
    Argentina / Iran - NO BET
    Ghana / Germany - Germany -1.5 -105 (2.5 units) - LOSS
    Bosnia / Nigeria - Under 2.5 -112 (1.5 units) - WIN

    Belgium / Russia - Belgium to win -103 (3 units) - WIN
    Algeria / S Korea - Algeria PK and +.5 -110 (2 units) - WIN
    Portugal / USA - USA +.5 and +1 (1 unit) - WIN

     
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    Posted: Jun. 25, 2014 - 7:54 PM ET #892

    Australia / Spain - Australia +.5 +215 (.5 unit) - LOSS
    Chile / Netherlands - Chile to win +180 (1 unit) - LOSS

    Brazil / Cameroon - NO BET

    Croatia / Mexico - Croatia to win +170 (1 unit) - LOSS
    England / Costa Rica - England to win -114 (2.5 units) - LOSS
    Uruguay / Italy - Under 2.5 -120 (2 units) - WIN
    Ivory Coast / Greece - over 2.5 +111 (1.5 units) - WIN
    Colombia / Japan - NO BET
    Argentina / Nigeria - Nigeria +1 +112 (1.5 units) - PUSH
    Iran / Bosnia - over 2.5 +106 (2.5 units) - WIN
    Switzerland / Honduras - under 2.5 and 3 -101 (1 unit) - HALF LOSS
    France / Ecuador - France -.5 and -1 -114 (1.5 units) - LOSS

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    Australia / Spain - Australia +.5 +215 (.5 unit) - LOSS
    Chile / Netherlands - Chile to win +180 (1 unit) - LOSS

    Brazil / Cameroon - NO BET

    Croatia / Mexico - Croatia to win +170 (1 unit) - LOSS
    England / Costa Rica - England to win -114 (2.5 units) - LOSS
    Uruguay / Italy - Under 2.5 -120 (2 units) - WIN
    Ivory Coast / Greece - over 2.5 +111 (1.5 units) - WIN
    Colombia / Japan - NO BET
    Argentina / Nigeria - Nigeria +1 +112 (1.5 units) - PUSH
    Iran / Bosnia - over 2.5 +106 (2.5 units) - WIN
    Switzerland / Honduras - under 2.5 and 3 -101 (1 unit) - HALF LOSS
    France / Ecuador - France -.5 and -1 -114 (1.5 units) - LOSS

     
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    Thursdays games...

    USA / Germany - USA +1 -105 (3 units)
    Ghana / Portugal - Ghana +.5 -120 (2 units)
    Belgium / S Korea - Belgium to win -142 (2 units)
    Russia / Algeria - Russia to win +108 (2.5 units)

    Hopefully I will have time to do write-ups soon....

     

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    Thursdays games...

    USA / Germany - USA +1 -105 (3 units)
    Ghana / Portugal - Ghana +.5 -120 (2 units)
    Belgium / S Korea - Belgium to win -142 (2 units)
    Russia / Algeria - Russia to win +108 (2.5 units)

    Hopefully I will have time to do write-ups soon....

     

     
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    Posted: Jun. 25, 2014 - 8:12 PM ET #894

    vanzack, doesn't Germany -1 at 2.0 look more appealing than USA +1? I see usa getting wrecked here as it seems both parties want to impress and not display a low draw.

     Also isnt there more value in a Algeria PK at 2.7 than Russia. I see Russia as the underdog here and not the favorite.
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    vanzack, doesn't Germany -1 at 2.0 look more appealing than USA +1? I see usa getting wrecked here as it seems both parties want to impress and not display a low draw.

     Also isnt there more value in a Algeria PK at 2.7 than Russia. I see Russia as the underdog here and not the favorite.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by lambo4bkfast:

    vanzack, doesn't Germany -1 at 2.0 look more appealing than USA +1? I see usa getting wrecked here as it seems both parties want to impress and not display a low draw.

     Also isnt there more value in a Algeria PK at 2.7 than Russia. I see Russia as the underdog here and not the favorite.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lambo4bkfast:

    vanzack, doesn't Germany -1 at 2.0 look more appealing than USA +1? I see usa getting wrecked here as it seems both parties want to impress and not display a low draw.

     Also isnt there more value in a Algeria PK at 2.7 than Russia. I see Russia as the underdog here and not the favorite.

     
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    USA / Germany - USA +1 -105 (3 units) - Count me as a believer.  Yes, I believe that we will win (over and over and over).  This game couldn't be more interesting - and couldn't be more important.  The possibilities are endless with this one - so I am going to use a little bit of Occams Razor and go with what I feel is the most likely scenario.

    Germany will once again crowd the middle of the field, play a false 9 (no real striker), and use a lot of short passing to build play.  They will have a huge advantage in possession - and I think the US should give them this.

    The weakness for Germany - if there is one - is the defense and specifically Howedes, Mertesacker, and Lahm.  Lahm is playing as their holding midfielder - but has been really bad on the ball giving away 2 goals by careless passes.  Mertesacker and Howedes are particularly non-mobile - and can be beaten by quick counterattacks.  So I believe that JK will have something in store that we saw Ghana do effectively against Germany - and that is pressure very high up the pitch.  As opposed to how we played against Ghana where we allowed possession and we allowed them to easily enter the US zone - I think we will see a very high press.  This is high risk / high reward - but it forces the weakest part of the German side to beat you out of their zone.

    This tactic requires a lot of stamina, determination, and running - something that the US squad might not want to hear after playing 2 extremely tough games in extremely tough conditions.  But it is the way to hold Germany and possibly beat them - and it will take a full team effort by the US - including subs - to do it.  They are going to press high, and if that is beaten, have to get back to cover.  Can guys like Beckerman, Jones, Beasley, Dempsey, and maybe Wondolowski pull this off in their 30's?  It will be tough for sure.

    I haven't seen that Germany can be a quick attack team.  They like the slow build.  So if the US can force them in to quick decisions - and counterattack with speed - that is playing in to their weakness.  The US will be in their best position when they are in front of the German front line - in other words - if the US holds possession for long enough for the German defense to settle back it is too late.  I wouldn't be surprised to see the same lineup we saw against Portugal.  The key is - when the US gets the ball - look to attack right away even if there are better options in the build up.

    I do think that if the game is tied going on 60 mins....  Both teams will become much more defensive - and not necessarily because they want a draw - but more because the risk / reward of going forward on attack becomes higher risk and lower reward as the game goes on.  So the key for the US is running their fools off for about 60 minutes, and then making sure they don't let off too much from there and leave with the draw.  Predicted final score Germany 1 USA 1

    Ghana / Portugal - Ghana +.5 -120 (2 units) - I see this as a pretty even game, and I don't understand this line at all.  Ghana is going to give Portugal all kinds of problems if they play the same tactics as they did against Germany - the high press will cause Portugal to make decisions before they want to make them and getting Ronaldo the ball up top might be difficult.  Once again - Ghana should emulate the US tactics against Portugal and attack in and behind Ronaldo in to the weaker side of the midfield where they should see plenty of space.  If Portugal get down, I can just see them packing it up - it has been a very emotional tournament for them - and seeing their reaction after equalizing in the last minute against the US said it all to me.  No celebration - no sense of accomplishment - I have to wonder where their heads are coming in to this game.  I just see this as a coinflip game - give me the half goal.  Predicted final score Ghana 2 Portugal 2

    Belgium / S Korea - Belgium to win -142 (2 units) - The reason Belgium had such a hard time against Algeria and Russia is because they packed back and played defense.  I see absolutely no reason S Korea will do anything on defense in this one (even if they could).  It is what we have seen in all games in the 3rd round involving teams that are out of it - they go out and attack and usually this is very bad news for them (Honduras, Japan, Australia, Cameroon).  Belgium should cut this team up - remember that big things were expected of this team and they are getting a lot of heat for not performing - so their motivation is still there along with avoiding the Germans in the next round.  Belgium cuts through S Korea with ease.  Predicted final score Belgium 3 S Korea 1

    Russia / Algeria - Russia to win +108 (2.5 units) - This is basically a play in game - Russia wins and they go through and if Algeria wins or draws they go through.  Of all teams in this tournament - Algeria might have shown the biggest tactical difference between their first and second games.  Against Belgium, Algeria packed back and defended - and really only lost because they got sucked out on attack and got hit on a quick counter.  Against S Korea, they pressed high and blitzed a totally outmanned Korean side playing with 5 different players and a totally different mentality.  So what will see from them in this one?

    I think they will once again take a defensive posture and look for the draw, or to hit Russia on the counterattack.  This will allow Russia to sit forward and dictate tempo - and build the attack - something they really struggled with in their first two games.  Russia has been extremely inefficient - and in soccer terms that is a team I don't like to bet on - scoring only one goal over two games where they had multiple chances.  The key here is converting - and I just see them having double the chances on goal than Algeria in this one - and the scoring drought ends.  Predicted final score Russia 2 Algeria 1

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    USA / Germany - USA +1 -105 (3 units) - Count me as a believer.  Yes, I believe that we will win (over and over and over).  This game couldn't be more interesting - and couldn't be more important.  The possibilities are endless with this one - so I am going to use a little bit of Occams Razor and go with what I feel is the most likely scenario.

    Germany will once again crowd the middle of the field, play a false 9 (no real striker), and use a lot of short passing to build play.  They will have a huge advantage in possession - and I think the US should give them this.

    The weakness for Germany - if there is one - is the defense and specifically Howedes, Mertesacker, and Lahm.  Lahm is playing as their holding midfielder - but has been really bad on the ball giving away 2 goals by careless passes.  Mertesacker and Howedes are particularly non-mobile - and can be beaten by quick counterattacks.  So I believe that JK will have something in store that we saw Ghana do effectively against Germany - and that is pressure very high up the pitch.  As opposed to how we played against Ghana where we allowed possession and we allowed them to easily enter the US zone - I think we will see a very high press.  This is high risk / high reward - but it forces the weakest part of the German side to beat you out of their zone.

    This tactic requires a lot of stamina, determination, and running - something that the US squad might not want to hear after playing 2 extremely tough games in extremely tough conditions.  But it is the way to hold Germany and possibly beat them - and it will take a full team effort by the US - including subs - to do it.  They are going to press high, and if that is beaten, have to get back to cover.  Can guys like Beckerman, Jones, Beasley, Dempsey, and maybe Wondolowski pull this off in their 30's?  It will be tough for sure.

    I haven't seen that Germany can be a quick attack team.  They like the slow build.  So if the US can force them in to quick decisions - and counterattack with speed - that is playing in to their weakness.  The US will be in their best position when they are in front of the German front line - in other words - if the US holds possession for long enough for the German defense to settle back it is too late.  I wouldn't be surprised to see the same lineup we saw against Portugal.  The key is - when the US gets the ball - look to attack right away even if there are better options in the build up.

    I do think that if the game is tied going on 60 mins....  Both teams will become much more defensive - and not necessarily because they want a draw - but more because the risk / reward of going forward on attack becomes higher risk and lower reward as the game goes on.  So the key for the US is running their fools off for about 60 minutes, and then making sure they don't let off too much from there and leave with the draw.  Predicted final score Germany 1 USA 1

    Ghana / Portugal - Ghana +.5 -120 (2 units) - I see this as a pretty even game, and I don't understand this line at all.  Ghana is going to give Portugal all kinds of problems if they play the same tactics as they did against Germany - the high press will cause Portugal to make decisions before they want to make them and getting Ronaldo the ball up top might be difficult.  Once again - Ghana should emulate the US tactics against Portugal and attack in and behind Ronaldo in to the weaker side of the midfield where they should see plenty of space.  If Portugal get down, I can just see them packing it up - it has been a very emotional tournament for them - and seeing their reaction after equalizing in the last minute against the US said it all to me.  No celebration - no sense of accomplishment - I have to wonder where their heads are coming in to this game.  I just see this as a coinflip game - give me the half goal.  Predicted final score Ghana 2 Portugal 2

    Belgium / S Korea - Belgium to win -142 (2 units) - The reason Belgium had such a hard time against Algeria and Russia is because they packed back and played defense.  I see absolutely no reason S Korea will do anything on defense in this one (even if they could).  It is what we have seen in all games in the 3rd round involving teams that are out of it - they go out and attack and usually this is very bad news for them (Honduras, Japan, Australia, Cameroon).  Belgium should cut this team up - remember that big things were expected of this team and they are getting a lot of heat for not performing - so their motivation is still there along with avoiding the Germans in the next round.  Belgium cuts through S Korea with ease.  Predicted final score Belgium 3 S Korea 1

    Russia / Algeria - Russia to win +108 (2.5 units) - This is basically a play in game - Russia wins and they go through and if Algeria wins or draws they go through.  Of all teams in this tournament - Algeria might have shown the biggest tactical difference between their first and second games.  Against Belgium, Algeria packed back and defended - and really only lost because they got sucked out on attack and got hit on a quick counter.  Against S Korea, they pressed high and blitzed a totally outmanned Korean side playing with 5 different players and a totally different mentality.  So what will see from them in this one?

    I think they will once again take a defensive posture and look for the draw, or to hit Russia on the counterattack.  This will allow Russia to sit forward and dictate tempo - and build the attack - something they really struggled with in their first two games.  Russia has been extremely inefficient - and in soccer terms that is a team I don't like to bet on - scoring only one goal over two games where they had multiple chances.  The key here is converting - and I just see them having double the chances on goal than Algeria in this one - and the scoring drought ends.  Predicted final score Russia 2 Algeria 1

     
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    Lambo just my 2 cents. I think both Germany and the USA would be happy as heck with a draw, no injuries and no cards. I don't see much offense in this game.

    Van what do feel about the Under. 
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    Lambo just my 2 cents. I think both Germany and the USA would be happy as heck with a draw, no injuries and no cards. I don't see much offense in this game.

    Van what do feel about the Under. 
     
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    Posted: Jun. 25, 2014 - 8:39 PM ET #898

    Quote Originally Posted by vanzack:

    Good start - hopefully most here picked up a half win with Nigeria as the line was +1 and +1.5 before gametime....



    Yes indeed, Vanzack.
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    Quote Originally Posted by vanzack:

    Good start - hopefully most here picked up a half win with Nigeria as the line was +1 and +1.5 before gametime....



    Yes indeed, Vanzack.
    Spot On. 
     
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    Posted: Jun. 25, 2014 - 8:44 PM ET #899

    Also feel S Korea is the weakest team in this Tourny. Sure like the Belgium play.
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    Also feel S Korea is the weakest team in this Tourny. Sure like the Belgium play.
     
     
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    Russia / Algeria - Russia to win +108 (2.5 units) - This is basically a play in game - Russia wins and they go through and if Algeria wins or draws they go through.


    How can that be? If USA/Germany draw they both advance.
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    Russia / Algeria - Russia to win +108 (2.5 units) - This is basically a play in game - Russia wins and they go through and if Algeria wins or draws they go through.


    How can that be? If USA/Germany draw they both advance.
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