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    Best Chase System I Have Found (31-1 ytd)

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    Posted: Jun. 10, 2010 - 11:37 PM ET #101

    Updated Totals

    59-5

    +46.3 units

    Picked up 12.3 units the last 5 series and 7.25 in last weekends series plays...thats why this system is the best.....it affords you the chance to lose some series and not go bust.
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    Updated Totals

    59-5

    +46.3 units

    Picked up 12.3 units the last 5 series and 7.25 in last weekends series plays...thats why this system is the best.....it affords you the chance to lose some series and not go bust.
     
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    Posted: Jun. 11, 2010 - 9:18 AM ET #102

    i been folo your thread all this week, but only yesterday i miss the baltimore game. I coun't play on time. so mad. but thank you for the posted. I really like it hammer. Keep posting please.
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    i been folo your thread all this week, but only yesterday i miss the baltimore game. I coun't play on time. so mad. but thank you for the posted. I really like it hammer. Keep posting please.
     
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    Posted: Jun. 11, 2010 - 9:52 AM ET #103

    Hey WH, just wanted to let you know all of your work is greatly appreciated and I'm sure I'm not the only one who would love to see you keep posting.  I got on board late but have been with you the last 2 weeks.  Great work
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    Hey WH, just wanted to let you know all of your work is greatly appreciated and I'm sure I'm not the only one who would love to see you keep posting.  I got on board late but have been with you the last 2 weeks.  Great work
     
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    Posted: Jun. 11, 2010 - 12:36 PM ET #104

    Plays for series starting Friday June 11th
    Alright guys here we go, but not many games qualified as plays this go round.

    Baltimore (again) -115 x 1 unit
    Milwaukee +105 x 1 unit

    Wish I had more, but thats it.....lets just pick up another 2 units and hope for more next week....fade or follow...GL to everyone this weekend.


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    Plays for series starting Friday June 11th
    Alright guys here we go, but not many games qualified as plays this go round.

    Baltimore (again) -115 x 1 unit
    Milwaukee +105 x 1 unit

    Wish I had more, but thats it.....lets just pick up another 2 units and hope for more next week....fade or follow...GL to everyone this weekend.


     
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    Posted: Jun. 11, 2010 - 3:29 PM ET #105

    Hi WH,

    Discovered your thread about mid-May and have been following it since . . . also posted here in late May.

    Kudos on the successful Orioles pick over the Yanks yesterday.

    As noted in your latest post, there are not many that meet your criteria for the upcoming week-end series . . . think that that may have anything to do with it being Interleague play?

    Also see where you are only posting/taking home teams that meet your criteria . . . your series win percentage at 92% is very high and that is excellent.

    However, in order to get more plays, perhaps you could separate out the visiting teams that meet your criteria and also post them.

    That would accomplish at least 2 things:

    • More plays would be available
    • There would be a greater number of underdog postings, possibly resulting in a greater unit return.

    Even if the visitor series picks come in at a much lower win % (<92%), say 65%, that should still result in higher units won overall.

    WH, keep posting . . . you probably have a lot of readers who simply don't take the time to reply!

     

     

     

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    Hi WH,

    Discovered your thread about mid-May and have been following it since . . . also posted here in late May.

    Kudos on the successful Orioles pick over the Yanks yesterday.

    As noted in your latest post, there are not many that meet your criteria for the upcoming week-end series . . . think that that may have anything to do with it being Interleague play?

    Also see where you are only posting/taking home teams that meet your criteria . . . your series win percentage at 92% is very high and that is excellent.

    However, in order to get more plays, perhaps you could separate out the visiting teams that meet your criteria and also post them.

    That would accomplish at least 2 things:

    • More plays would be available
    • There would be a greater number of underdog postings, possibly resulting in a greater unit return.

    Even if the visitor series picks come in at a much lower win % (<92%), say 65%, that should still result in higher units won overall.

    WH, keep posting . . . you probably have a lot of readers who simply don't take the time to reply!

     

     

     

     
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    Posted: Jun. 11, 2010 - 4:04 PM ET #106

    Quote Originally Posted by CALIFORNIA1:

    Hi WH,

    Discovered your thread about mid-May and have been following it since . . . also posted here in late May.

    Kudos on the successful Orioles pick over the Yanks yesterday.

    As noted in your latest post, there are not many that meet your criteria for the upcoming week-end series . . . think that that may have anything to do with it being Interleague play?

    Also see where you are only posting/taking home teams that meet your criteria . . . your series win percentage at 92% is very high and that is excellent.

    However, in order to get more plays, perhaps you could separate out the visiting teams that meet your criteria and also post them.

    That would accomplish at least 2 things:

    • More plays would be available
    • There would be a greater number of underdog postings, possibly resulting in a greater unit return.

    Even if the visitor series picks come in at a much lower win % (<92%), say 65%, that should still result in higher units won overall.

    WH, keep posting . . . you probably have a lot of readers who simply don't take the time to reply!

     

     

     


    Interleague has nothing to do with it...that I can assure you.  These are all professional baseball teams.  The last round of IL play my numbers showed .........

    Houston winner vs TB
    Oakland winner vs SF
    LAA winner vs STL
    Mil winner vs Min

    I will start posting the road teams as well thats not a problem.  I will separate the totals for home and road teams.  The only problem with doing that is I will have to put a disclaimer with it saying play at your own risk. 
    When someone comes to the site for the first time and looks at the plays I want them to know I am not playing road teams.  I love road teams because of the value you get, but I dont want to drop 7 units getting greedy chasing $2 dogs......thanks for the words....any more questions let me know.......I am getting ready to post and try to explain why my systems works....I am probably not putting up my actual formula, but I know why this works so well, it will just take some time to try and simplify the explanation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CALIFORNIA1:

    Hi WH,

    Discovered your thread about mid-May and have been following it since . . . also posted here in late May.

    Kudos on the successful Orioles pick over the Yanks yesterday.

    As noted in your latest post, there are not many that meet your criteria for the upcoming week-end series . . . think that that may have anything to do with it being Interleague play?

    Also see where you are only posting/taking home teams that meet your criteria . . . your series win percentage at 92% is very high and that is excellent.

    However, in order to get more plays, perhaps you could separate out the visiting teams that meet your criteria and also post them.

    That would accomplish at least 2 things:

    • More plays would be available
    • There would be a greater number of underdog postings, possibly resulting in a greater unit return.

    Even if the visitor series picks come in at a much lower win % (<92%), say 65%, that should still result in higher units won overall.

    WH, keep posting . . . you probably have a lot of readers who simply don't take the time to reply!

     

     

     


    Interleague has nothing to do with it...that I can assure you.  These are all professional baseball teams.  The last round of IL play my numbers showed .........

    Houston winner vs TB
    Oakland winner vs SF
    LAA winner vs STL
    Mil winner vs Min

    I will start posting the road teams as well thats not a problem.  I will separate the totals for home and road teams.  The only problem with doing that is I will have to put a disclaimer with it saying play at your own risk. 
    When someone comes to the site for the first time and looks at the plays I want them to know I am not playing road teams.  I love road teams because of the value you get, but I dont want to drop 7 units getting greedy chasing $2 dogs......thanks for the words....any more questions let me know.......I am getting ready to post and try to explain why my systems works....I am probably not putting up my actual formula, but I know why this works so well, it will just take some time to try and simplify the explanation.
     
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    Posted: Jun. 11, 2010 - 4:58 PM ET #107

    Hi WH,

    Personally, I did not figure that IL play would have anything to do with your choices . . . but, since I had not researched it nor knew precisely the math underlying your chase system, I thought I would throw it out there for your response.

    "I am probably not putting up my actual formula"  . . . however, I would like to see it, if you would consider PMing me.

    In suggesting that you put up the roadies also, with their generally plus odds, my thought was to see how close that the units won would come to your stellar series home team returns.

    Also, a couple or so of years ago, I looked at teams by series wondering how often teams were swept . . . however, while sweeps do, of course, occur, I did not come to any conclusions that warranted betting on a lack of a series sweep . . . so when I ran across your thread, my interest was piqued!

     

     

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    Hi WH,

    Personally, I did not figure that IL play would have anything to do with your choices . . . but, since I had not researched it nor knew precisely the math underlying your chase system, I thought I would throw it out there for your response.

    "I am probably not putting up my actual formula"  . . . however, I would like to see it, if you would consider PMing me.

    In suggesting that you put up the roadies also, with their generally plus odds, my thought was to see how close that the units won would come to your stellar series home team returns.

    Also, a couple or so of years ago, I looked at teams by series wondering how often teams were swept . . . however, while sweeps do, of course, occur, I did not come to any conclusions that warranted betting on a lack of a series sweep . . . so when I ran across your thread, my interest was piqued!

     

     

     
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    Posted: Jun. 11, 2010 - 5:10 PM ET #108

    Road Teams for Series Starting Friday June 11th...play at your own risk...

    Washington +110.......I do like this play

    One home team that I am not playing in the first game due to the odds, but I may pick them up in game 2 or 3 if they lose game 1...it qualifies as a play, but I will not count it in my unit totals

    LA Dodgers -165

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    Road Teams for Series Starting Friday June 11th...play at your own risk...

    Washington +110.......I do like this play

    One home team that I am not playing in the first game due to the odds, but I may pick them up in game 2 or 3 if they lose game 1...it qualifies as a play, but I will not count it in my unit totals

    LA Dodgers -165

     
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    Posted: Jun. 11, 2010 - 5:24 PM ET #109

    Interestingly, from time-to-time, teams may just miss your odds cut off for a play . . . I use Matchbook, for usually 3-10 basis points better. 

    For example, at a $100 a game, reduced juice often translates into an extra half to a full game win, if betting about 10 games a day. 

    MB usually has the best and tightest odds around . . . at the moment, Dodgers are available for -161 or even -160, if a posted offer is taken.

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    Interestingly, from time-to-time, teams may just miss your odds cut off for a play . . . I use Matchbook, for usually 3-10 basis points better. 

    For example, at a $100 a game, reduced juice often translates into an extra half to a full game win, if betting about 10 games a day. 

    MB usually has the best and tightest odds around . . . at the moment, Dodgers are available for -161 or even -160, if a posted offer is taken.

     
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    Posted: Jun. 11, 2010 - 5:38 PM ET #110

    Quote Originally Posted by CALIFORNIA1:

    Interestingly, from time-to-time, teams may just miss your odds cut off for a play . . . I use Matchbook, for usually 3-10 basis points better. 

    For example, at a $100 a game, reduced juice often translates into an extra half to a full game win, if betting about 10 games a day. 

    MB usually has the best and tightest odds around . . . at the moment, Dodgers are available for -161 or even -160, if a posted offer is taken.


    Very good point....I have considered opening an account with MB and plan on doing so, but for posting purposes here I am just using WSEX because that is one of my current books

    I like the Dodgers to win one cause the numbers say they should but, -165 or even -160, is still to much for lay for me......now if they lose game 1 I would be more likely to lay it in game 2 because then we are down to a 2 game chase not 3....

    .....I much prefer Washington vs Cleveland and taking the odds, but that being said if Washington does not win 1 of the first 2 games Strasburg will be pitching (I think) in game 3 and they will be laying big odds with no value.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CALIFORNIA1:

    Interestingly, from time-to-time, teams may just miss your odds cut off for a play . . . I use Matchbook, for usually 3-10 basis points better. 

    For example, at a $100 a game, reduced juice often translates into an extra half to a full game win, if betting about 10 games a day. 

    MB usually has the best and tightest odds around . . . at the moment, Dodgers are available for -161 or even -160, if a posted offer is taken.


    Very good point....I have considered opening an account with MB and plan on doing so, but for posting purposes here I am just using WSEX because that is one of my current books

    I like the Dodgers to win one cause the numbers say they should but, -165 or even -160, is still to much for lay for me......now if they lose game 1 I would be more likely to lay it in game 2 because then we are down to a 2 game chase not 3....

    .....I much prefer Washington vs Cleveland and taking the odds, but that being said if Washington does not win 1 of the first 2 games Strasburg will be pitching (I think) in game 3 and they will be laying big odds with no value.
     
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    Posted: Jun. 12, 2010 - 12:03 PM ET #111

    Official Plays for Saturday June 12th
    Baltimore -110 x 2.15 units....

    .....how the hell is Baltimore favored in back to back games?  I am confident they will win 1 of the 3, but dam give me some odds...GL

    Unofficial Plays .....games that fit the system, but I don't play them.

    LA Dodgers -155 x 2.65 units   (big home favorite) I don't lay big odds
    Washington +120 x 2 units  (road team)

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    Official Plays for Saturday June 12th
    Baltimore -110 x 2.15 units....

    .....how the hell is Baltimore favored in back to back games?  I am confident they will win 1 of the 3, but dam give me some odds...GL

    Unofficial Plays .....games that fit the system, but I don't play them.

    LA Dodgers -155 x 2.65 units   (big home favorite) I don't lay big odds
    Washington +120 x 2 units  (road team)

     
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    Posted: Jun. 12, 2010 - 5:27 PM ET #112

    I don't get the line on the balt-nym game........geez....balt sucks and their favored in back to back games.....how?
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    I don't get the line on the balt-nym game........geez....balt sucks and their favored in back to back games.....how?
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by WaterHammer:

    I don't get the line on the balt-nym game........geez....balt sucks and their favored in back to back games.....how?

    they have the better pitcher on the mound.....Beltran and Castillo still out for mets........i quess....balt is still terrible though.

    continued success sir!
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    Quote Originally Posted by WaterHammer:

    I don't get the line on the balt-nym game........geez....balt sucks and their favored in back to back games.....how?

    they have the better pitcher on the mound.....Beltran and Castillo still out for mets........i quess....balt is still terrible though.

    continued success sir!
     
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    Posted: Jun. 13, 2010 - 9:30 AM ET #114

    I am amazed again at how the NYM are only -140 against Baltimore.........Pelfrey  7-1 vs Millwood 0-7.......I don't get it.....Baltimore favored in the first two games of the series blew my mind and now they are only getting +130 ....unreal
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    I am amazed again at how the NYM are only -140 against Baltimore.........Pelfrey  7-1 vs Millwood 0-7.......I don't get it.....Baltimore favored in the first two games of the series blew my mind and now they are only getting +130 ....unreal
     
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    Posted: Jun. 13, 2010 - 11:40 AM ET #115

    Plays for Sunday
    Baltimore +130 x 4.25 units
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    Baltimore +130 x 4.25 units
     
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    Posted: Jun. 13, 2010 - 11:52 AM ET #116

    Gl to you dude. Ballsy to stick with a chase involving the O's.

    It's sad to see how bad the O's have become over the years. I think it was all downhill after the Jeffrey Mayer interference on the homerun fiasco in New York years ago that triggered it all.

    Would be really interested to know your criteria for your system. I hope you lay it out someday.

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    Gl to you dude. Ballsy to stick with a chase involving the O's.

    It's sad to see how bad the O's have become over the years. I think it was all downhill after the Jeffrey Mayer interference on the homerun fiasco in New York years ago that triggered it all.

    Would be really interested to know your criteria for your system. I hope you lay it out someday.

     
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    Posted: Jun. 13, 2010 - 12:05 PM ET #117

    Oh, and definitely keep posting. I love the fact that your system in plus ML to low juice picks. That is key to absorbing losses. I am a dog lover, just never had a strategy to follow to make that work.

    Thanks for your time and effort.

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    Oh, and definitely keep posting. I love the fact that your system in plus ML to low juice picks. That is key to absorbing losses. I am a dog lover, just never had a strategy to follow to make that work.

    Thanks for your time and effort.

     
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    Posted: Jun. 13, 2010 - 6:21 PM ET #118

    The Orioles and Dodgers suck ass. Geeze man.
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    The Orioles and Dodgers suck ass. Geeze man.
     
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    Posted: Jun. 13, 2010 - 6:50 PM ET #119

    keep up the great work will have to look at this more in depth as i just found it bol to all
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    keep up the great work will have to look at this more in depth as i just found it bol to all
     
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    Posted: Jun. 14, 2010 - 1:48 PM ET #120

    Totals Update
    60-6
    +39.7 units

    Rough weekend......but thats the way it goes......be back in a couple of hours with plays.
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    60-6
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    Rough weekend......but thats the way it goes......be back in a couple of hours with plays.
     
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    Posted: Jun. 14, 2010 - 5:17 PM ET #121

    Plays for Monday June 14th

    San Diego -105 x 1 unit


    More tomorrow......lets get back some money...fade or follow ...GL
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    Plays for Monday June 14th

    San Diego -105 x 1 unit


    More tomorrow......lets get back some money...fade or follow ...GL
     
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    Posted: Jun. 14, 2010 - 5:36 PM ET #122

    , thank for the play waterhammer. BOL

     

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    , thank for the play waterhammer. BOL

     

     
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    Posted: Jun. 14, 2010 - 6:32 PM ET #123

    Thx for the work you put in bro.
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    Posted: Jun. 14, 2010 - 6:38 PM ET #124

    Quote Originally Posted by nolemonasses:

    The Orioles and Dodgers suck ass. Geeze man.


    I did not say play the Dodgers....yes, they fit the numbers, but not laying odds they were laying.....yes, Baltimore sucks, but if they fall as a play I will play them again as I am supposed to....I spent 3 years refining my calculations....... I am going to lose some series, every chase system does, but with  mine you will not go lose 15 or 20 units with a loss....the objective is to turn enough profit by the end of the season to warrant my time and effort.....baseball is a marathon....its about making small gains that add up to a big profit by the end..any series I post can lose, there are no locks....fade or follow ......GL

    PS....... for those interested in my formulas you can start by studying Bill James Pythagorean theorem of Baseball...its what I started with 3 years ago......I have done lots of tuning and tweaking to get to where it is now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nolemonasses:

    The Orioles and Dodgers suck ass. Geeze man.


    I did not say play the Dodgers....yes, they fit the numbers, but not laying odds they were laying.....yes, Baltimore sucks, but if they fall as a play I will play them again as I am supposed to....I spent 3 years refining my calculations....... I am going to lose some series, every chase system does, but with  mine you will not go lose 15 or 20 units with a loss....the objective is to turn enough profit by the end of the season to warrant my time and effort.....baseball is a marathon....its about making small gains that add up to a big profit by the end..any series I post can lose, there are no locks....fade or follow ......GL

    PS....... for those interested in my formulas you can start by studying Bill James Pythagorean theorem of Baseball...its what I started with 3 years ago......I have done lots of tuning and tweaking to get to where it is now.
     
     
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    Posted: Jun. 14, 2010 - 6:42 PM ET #125

    WH, I wasn't complaining or blaming you for the losses. Just pointing out how bad these teams played this weekend.

    GL this week.

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    WH, I wasn't complaining or blaming you for the losses. Just pointing out how bad these teams played this weekend.

    GL this week.

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