you still did not refute my point at all, his bad results only came when returning from injury. just not sure how you can say this was a bad year on HCs for him when once he got healthy he was dominant. if anything I consider it a breathrough year on HC for him. and I thnk he could beat Murray on a HC, but on grass he lost 0-3. I disgaree grass is his best surface as of this moment. He is a force on HCs. to me this year he took a leap.
and of course it will be close. both guys are huge servers and bad returners. I laid the juice based on who is more clutch, homefield adnvantage and the belief that Sam will be superior in rallies. and at the parlay prices I have him now at better than even money, so I feel good about that value.
I dont often play fave moneylines alone anymore.
Well the numbers clearly show he's at his best on grass, and it was very evident watching him play that that was the case...but okay, I'll play your game. He had one good tournament on the hard stuff. One. He struggled greatly before that, then he struggled again after that.
One tournament. An impressive tournament. But one tournament.
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Quote Originally Posted by BurningPlanet26:
you still did not refute my point at all, his bad results only came when returning from injury. just not sure how you can say this was a bad year on HCs for him when once he got healthy he was dominant. if anything I consider it a breathrough year on HC for him. and I thnk he could beat Murray on a HC, but on grass he lost 0-3. I disgaree grass is his best surface as of this moment. He is a force on HCs. to me this year he took a leap.
and of course it will be close. both guys are huge servers and bad returners. I laid the juice based on who is more clutch, homefield adnvantage and the belief that Sam will be superior in rallies. and at the parlay prices I have him now at better than even money, so I feel good about that value.
I dont often play fave moneylines alone anymore.
Well the numbers clearly show he's at his best on grass, and it was very evident watching him play that that was the case...but okay, I'll play your game. He had one good tournament on the hard stuff. One. He struggled greatly before that, then he struggled again after that.
One tournament. An impressive tournament. But one tournament.
Not one, two, and in a row. he had two great tournaments on hard, a semi where he went three sets vs Roddick then a tournament he won right after. these were the only two tournaments he played healthy on hard this year.
so how could you say he had questionable results on hard this year? the two tournaments he played healthy in he was dominant. fact.
maybe a small sample size but you have no basis to plant the seed in people's mind that he did mediocre on hard courts this year. once healthy he did very well.
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Not one, two, and in a row. he had two great tournaments on hard, a semi where he went three sets vs Roddick then a tournament he won right after. these were the only two tournaments he played healthy on hard this year.
so how could you say he had questionable results on hard this year? the two tournaments he played healthy in he was dominant. fact.
maybe a small sample size but you have no basis to plant the seed in people's mind that he did mediocre on hard courts this year. once healthy he did very well.
you are acting as if we should count his return from injury form as something that will count towards tonight's results and that is BS to me. I was wildly impressed by him on hard courts those two tournaments and he had good competition.
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you are acting as if we should count his return from injury form as something that will count towards tonight's results and that is BS to me. I was wildly impressed by him on hard courts those two tournaments and he had good competition.
Not one, two, and in a row. he had two great tournaments on hard, a semi where he went three sets vs Roddick then a tournament he won right after. these were the only two tournaments he played healthy on hard this year.
so how could you say he had questionable results on hard this year? the two tournaments he played healthy in he was dominant. fact.
maybe a small sample size but you have no basis to plant the seed in people's mind that he did mediocre on hard courts this year. once healthy he did very well.
No he wasn't, he beat Taylor Dent and Mike Russell in the first one that makes you believe he was dominant. Sorry, those aren't big wins by any stretch of the imagination.
And you can't ignore what he did on hard court after that, it's not like those were his last two tournaments, he lost in the second round against Isner his next time on hard court then he followed it up with a first round loss against Chardy. How in the world is that dominant when healthy?
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Quote Originally Posted by BurningPlanet26:
Not one, two, and in a row. he had two great tournaments on hard, a semi where he went three sets vs Roddick then a tournament he won right after. these were the only two tournaments he played healthy on hard this year.
so how could you say he had questionable results on hard this year? the two tournaments he played healthy in he was dominant. fact.
maybe a small sample size but you have no basis to plant the seed in people's mind that he did mediocre on hard courts this year. once healthy he did very well.
No he wasn't, he beat Taylor Dent and Mike Russell in the first one that makes you believe he was dominant. Sorry, those aren't big wins by any stretch of the imagination.
And you can't ignore what he did on hard court after that, it's not like those were his last two tournaments, he lost in the second round against Isner his next time on hard court then he followed it up with a first round loss against Chardy. How in the world is that dominant when healthy?
he is not a good returner and neither is Anderson. it is not even two games in, a bit early.
BP you have been on covers long enough to know people on here expect blowouts on all bets. They want a 6-0 6-0 tennis match. They want 10 runs in the 1st inning in baseball etc. If a guy is broken his first game and they bet him, there is panic.
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Quote Originally Posted by BurningPlanet26:
he is not a good returner and neither is Anderson. it is not even two games in, a bit early.
BP you have been on covers long enough to know people on here expect blowouts on all bets. They want a 6-0 6-0 tennis match. They want 10 runs in the 1st inning in baseball etc. If a guy is broken his first game and they bet him, there is panic.
No he wasn't, he beat Taylor Dent and Mike Russell in the first one that makes you believe he was dominant. Sorry, those aren't big wins by any stretch of the imagination.
And you can't ignore what he did on hard court after that, it's not like those were his last two tournaments, he lost in the second round against Isner his next time on hard court then he followed it up with a first round loss against Chardy. How in the world is that dominant when healthy?
the Isner loss means little as Isner is an awesome hard court player. sorry i didnt know Chardy and he played on hard, thought that one was clay! guess you got me then. but i still think even with that chardy match taken into account that is basically one bad loss all year on hard courts when healthy, and chardy is explosive as hell and a wildcard anyway. losing to Isner and Roddick is absolutely nothing to be ashamed of, they are two classes above Anderson IMO.
anderson still loses this because he is less clutch.
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Quote Originally Posted by Fairweatherfan:
No he wasn't, he beat Taylor Dent and Mike Russell in the first one that makes you believe he was dominant. Sorry, those aren't big wins by any stretch of the imagination.
And you can't ignore what he did on hard court after that, it's not like those were his last two tournaments, he lost in the second round against Isner his next time on hard court then he followed it up with a first round loss against Chardy. How in the world is that dominant when healthy?
the Isner loss means little as Isner is an awesome hard court player. sorry i didnt know Chardy and he played on hard, thought that one was clay! guess you got me then. but i still think even with that chardy match taken into account that is basically one bad loss all year on hard courts when healthy, and chardy is explosive as hell and a wildcard anyway. losing to Isner and Roddick is absolutely nothing to be ashamed of, they are two classes above Anderson IMO.
anderson still loses this because he is less clutch.
if Anderson could not beat dead tired Isner how can he beat Querrey who also has a big serve and is three times better in rallies? I bet on that match and Anderson was disgusting, giving up breaks as total gifts out of nowhere to lose the first and third sets.
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if Anderson could not beat dead tired Isner how can he beat Querrey who also has a big serve and is three times better in rallies? I bet on that match and Anderson was disgusting, giving up breaks as total gifts out of nowhere to lose the first and third sets.
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