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Changing my Under pick to Over,, Ohio St + Over..
Gl all, hope u guys close out the college bowl game with a win ..
 
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Quote Originally Posted by CAPPEJO2929:

BE CAREFUL riding the OSU Train.
 
If you review this past seasons results for both teams you will swing from OSU to the Gators.
 
Ask yourself the following question?
 
If OSU was in the SEC or ACC would they be 12-0?
 
Who would win OSU or LSU?
 
Besides Texas and Michigan who are the toughest teams OSU played this year?  Penn State, Iowa, Cincy...
 
Ohio State beat Penn State by the score of 28-6.  Sounds like a blow-out against a team with a pretty good defense.  However, Ohio State scored 14 points in the last two minutes of the game by interceptions.  Take those away and you have a final score of 14-6 OSU.  The running back for Penn State, Hunt, ran for 135 yards.
 
Ohio State beat Iowa 38-17 - Tate threw 3 picks.
 
By halftime the OSU/Cincy score was 13-7.
 
Florida Wins: Arkansas, Florida State, South Carolina, Georgia, LSU
 
OSU Wins: Michigan, Penn St., Iowa, Texas, Cincy, Mich. St.
 
Florida getting 7 points is a Christmas present arriving a few weeks late.  Take the points to the bank.
 
Good Luck All....
 
No disrespect intended here, Cappejo, but this is the same old SoS argument that is getting a little worn out after three weeks worth of bowl games.  I realize that comparing conferences is unavoidable when there are so many teams that the two in this game have no common opponents.  But it just doesn't shed all that much light.  Remember how everyone was all over the Pac-10 teams at the beginning of the bowl season, and how it felt to see Oregon get their yucky new green hornet helmets handed to them?
 
I did ask myself your question -- If OSU was in the SEC or ACC would they be 12-0?
And my answer is no, they would not be 12-0.
 
But the important fact here is that is the WRONG question to ask!
 
OSU would not be 12-0, not because the SEC or ACC is so great, but because they are built to win the big ten, and that is what they are familiar with.  Switching conferences is not for the faint of heart.
 
The other way to say this is if Fla was in the Big Ten +1, would they be 12-1?  No.  And they wouldn't be 11-1 either (since there is no championship game in the B10.)  For the same reasons stated above.
 
You would think that Penn State and Wisconsin proved this theory wrong, but alas, no.   This game is not conference vs. conference -- it is team vs. team.  Player vs. player.  Coach vs. coach.   And OSU is built to win.  They may be susceptible to a trap game like any other, but they are not a "tight" football team, and this is no trap game.  Was Ohio State tight on the road vs. Texas on Sept. 9th?  They were a three point underdog in that game, and won by 17.
 
Other points I do not see people mentioning:
 
Tressel is great at preparing teams to win.   Yes, he has won one national championship games for the Buckeyes.  But he also won FOUR national championships at Division 1-AA Youngstown State.
 
ATS Record for 2006:  Ohio State 9-3, Florida 4-8.  Are we forgetting the obvious signs here?
 
 
 
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Posted: #128
Quote Originally Posted by MauiWarrior:

"Who...ARE...the warriors?"...."WARriors...come OUT to Plaeeeeayyyy." The Warriors, 1979. 
 
Who is thegr8-1?
 
Come on man, make your pick.
 
Maui,,,, That's an awesome movie, total classic..     Anyway's, for the game tonight, I am liking the dog for now but not to say that couldn't change by gametime. I am looking forward to this game and will have computer (in game) and cerveza in hand for this royal battle. If I had to choose an over/under, it would be the over.. Both offenses are high powered and can score in the blink of an eye. Not to say they don't have good defenses, but imo, in the national title game, the offense wins the games. Good luck ya'll!!!
 
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Posted: #129
BD, You laying off this one of ALL games this season. Come on Danstyk pull him back in for us one more time!  Still can't decide what the Hell to do with this one Maui Warrior, ClJim? 
 
 
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Posted: #130
simple here you bet:
 
Gators= 
 
Buckeyes=
 
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OK HERE'S MY 2 CENTS: FLA. IS FAST SO IS OH ST.  DON'T LIKE THE 2 QTR BACK SYSTEM FLA USES. KICKER FOR FLA? THEY HAVE ONE? BLACKJACK'S ANALYSIS ABOVE IS GREAT.  TOO MUCH NOT TO REALLY PLAY FLA IN THIS. UNLESS YOU GUYS HAVE SOMETHING MORE COMPELLING MY GUT SAYS FLA BREAKS THE CURSE COVERS......
 
TEASER FOR 7 ON FLA AND PUSHING THE OVER DOWN
SEE WHAT HAPPENS 1ST HALF  14-3 ON SECOND HALVES. OHIO PISSED ON MY FIRE LAST NIGHT!
GLA
 
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Ahh Abe, alas I cannot.  Only the BigDaddy himself can tell the BigDaddy what to do.   But maybe I scared him off by warning him against the Ohio St. first half play.  To that I will add that after I posted that point I immediately started thinking otherwise.  So BD if I skeered you off of that, pay no mind -- you go with what you think is right.      I do not study the first half plays like you do.  But I will actually be very surprised if OSU comes out flat.
 
So Abe -- what do YOU think?   All input is welcome here.  I don't have all the answers and neither does anyone else.  
 
 
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I LIKE THAT NYG420!  IS IT GONNA BE A WHOOP ASS PARTY? I THINK FLA WILL HANG...
 
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Here is one more point I want to throw out there.  Full disclosure time -- I am recycling this from the LSU-Notre Dame thread.  And I was on the wrong side there, picking ND.  (But the thread proves how conflicted I was over that one, begging for people to blame prior to the game.)   I used this same theory for Brady Quinn, and it backfired.  But it SHOULD work better for Troy Smith, since he won the frikkin' Heisman!
 
"Elite Bowl Game Player in Final Game of Senior Season."  Troy Smith qualifies for this situation.  When an elite offensive player -- not just a star, but a spotlight player that moves his team to a new level -- plays in their final spotlight game, special things can happen and they usually come up big.  Here are some examples from this year:
 
Colt Brennan - Hawaii (not a Sr. but last game probably)
John Beck - BYU
Zabransky - Boise St
 
Less obvious examples could also include:
Drew Tate - Iowa (injuries hurt his team from finishing higher)
Tony Hunt -- Penn State RB will play on Sundays, ran for 158 yds v. Tenn
John Stocco - Wisc QB was player of the game
 
Examples from past bowls:
Vince Young - Texas
Ben Roethlisberger - Miami OH
Philip Rivers - NC State
Eli Manning - Miss
Timmy Chang - Hawaii
Dan Orlovsky - UConn
Alex Smith - Utah
Carson Palmer - USC
 
When was the last time the Heisman race was over so early in the year?  Look for Troy Smith to put a nice finish on a very strong college career.
 
 
 
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Posted: #135
DANSTYK AND THE REGULARS, YOU HAVE MADE THIS SEASON A HELL OF ALOT OF FUN. SORRY TO SEE COLLEGE BALL COME TO AN END.. DO YOU GUYS BET B-BALL AND OR WHERE ELSE CAN I FIND YOU AFTER TONIGHT'S GAME?  I KNOW YOU'RE NOT WATCHING RERUNS !
 
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GLAD I DIDN'T HIT THE ENTER THE BET BUTTON BEFORE I READ THAT.  TOO COMPELLING NOT GO WITH DA BUCS... MY HANDS ARE SWEATEN ALREADY AND MY BLOOD PRESSURE JUST WENT UP..I QUESS THIS IS WHY WE DO THIS TO OURSELVES!  THIS IS GOING TO BE ONE HELL OF A  GAME!  THANKS DANSTYK!
 
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Last question?  Buying points, teaser, or what? I buy points and or tease this one.  I agree with you or who ever said that the sharps will be pushing the line around soon...
 
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Good luck Abe... hope this doesn't mean you'll be after my head if the Gators should bite!    You just never know with college football.  While I do feel the Bucs are the right choice, I am just trying to add to the conversation, not bring everyone over to one side.
 
It has been a fun season.  I do not bet b-ball, so it is a bit of a withdrawal for me to get back into "real life" until next season.
 
I cannot resist pasting in here one more quote from the covers article:
 
“Right now I am saying the 20-yard line is the area where we will be satisfied with kicking the ball,” Meyer told reporters recently regarding when he’s comfortable sending Hetland in for a field-goal try.
 
I just cannot put my $ on a dog that can't take FG points if a drive stalls between the 20 and 40 yd lines.
 
Good luck everyone... 
 
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Posted: #139
Buckeyes backers, place your bet now it is  7 at the moment , line is predicting to move upward..7.5 to 8 pts is the prediction by game time..
 
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Not where I bet.  Yesterday it went to 7, then back up to 7.5.  Today it went from -7.5 at -110 to -7.5 at -115.
I don't think it's moving too much more... at least according to this article, if it can be believed:
 
 
 
 
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Posted: #141
How amazing is the proverbial House?!?

Pinny has FLA+11.5 @ -173, on one of their alternative pointspreads for 2nites game.
But,........you can go in and buy 3 full points, moving the line to FLA+10, and pay -188 for your troubles?!?

S like this is why I love to give some freebie goodies away on Covers.com from time2time. Anything to hurt the scumbag house.

GLA!
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Florida is a pretty boring team to watch, but they seem to find ways to win most of the time.  Meanwhile, it's not safe to bet against Jim Tressel.  He's good when it come to bowl games.
 
Florida is pretty good but then Confucious said "Buckeyes".  Damn it!!!  If Confucious bet on the Buckeyes, I would have to too.
 
For all that think Ohio St. win over Michigan is weak due to the fact that Mich lost to USC, I do not think it's justified to think that way.  Michigan beat a very good Wisconsin team.  And this game is not OSU vs USC.  I think USC would beat Florida easily too.  Meanwhile, we shouldn't underestimate that OSU win over Penn St.  Penn defense is great as you have seen in their bowl game.  Well, OSU defense is even better.
 
OSU does not only win games, Jim Tressel loves to cover the spread.  It will not be a 3-point OSU win (if OSU comes out a winner).  OSU will either lose the game straight up or win and cover the spread.  Right now, I'm leaning toward covering the spread.
 
OSU 30 - UF 13
 
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Danstyk:  What happened with Reggie Bush and Matt Leinhart in 2006?
 
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Tough call,
 
Florida had one of the hardest schedules, faced 10 bowl teams and lost at Auburn because of special teams breakdowns, a late fumble and a fumble by Leak. This team is talented enough to win. Will they show up?? I think so.  
 
OSU didn't play Wisconsin, got Texas before McCoy warmed up and struggled until late against JoePa's boys, they got too much credit for wins over Iowa and Minnesota. Michigan showed that the Buckeyes can be beat.  If Florida plays to their ability and with the "no respect dog" chip to knock off their shoulders this could be a great game!
 
Because of the ease of most of OSU's wins are we assuming the BCS championship is theirs (insert Denny Green rant here) the pressure is on OSU to perform. Is OSU that good? The stats say yes. But will they cover??? Not so sure.
 
leaning on Florida + points will watch the line closer to game time.
 
Good luck 
 
 
 
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Abewins:  I am already on Fla. at +7.5.  That's it.  The dice are rolling.
 
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Quote Originally Posted by MauiWarrior:

Danstyk:  What happened with Reggie Bush and Matt Leinhart in 2006?
 
Maui, I'll bite on that one.  We all know they lost to TX.  But if you are referring to my above post about elite players in their final game, you'll see that Vince Young was one of those players I listed as an example.  Between V Young and M Leinart, one of them had to lose. 
 
Also, I could ask you, What happened with Reggie Bush and Matt Leinhart in 2005?
Answer: USC 55, Oklahoma 19.  
 
Good luck with your bets... I can tell from your posts you've had some good winners this year.
 
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All Florida betters have to remember is a terrible FSU team got a game tying kick off return called back for stepping out of bounds by an inch or we might be watching Michigan vs OSU II.  I watched both teams all year and Florida has never really showed me anything to lean towards them.  OSU has had a target on their back all year they are  their opponents biggest game on their schedule and they haven't blinked yet and doubt they will tonight. Florida can't run the ball they can't Kick what is it 4/15 in FGs Leak has never played to his reputation coming in. The long lay off worries me slightly but think it will be overshadowed by Tressel's superb ability to prepare his teams. Florida's defense is their strong suit but Ohio State is just a lethal offensive team I can't see their spread offense being held down in this spot. Of course can turn into a Michigan Game with the turnover Factor but odds are it wont Troy Smith has thrown only 5 interceptions 30 TDS its probably a lot more likely to see Florida giving up the turnovers Leak 13 interceptions 22 TD passes.

This is an easy play at -7  OHIO STATE baby
 
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Posted: #148
Danstyk, what happened in 2003?
2005 Texas (13-0)
2004 Southern California (13-0)
2003 Louisiana State (13-1)
Southern California (12-1)
Statistics are funny things.
 
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Danstyk,
 
  It's sounds like I am taunting.  I am not.  I resptect your posts very much.
 
 
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Posted: #150
i dont understand why osu def is not getting any talk here.  it seems as though everyone thinks osu has off but no def.  you have a butkus finalist in the aniamal loaranitis a thorpe finalist in smith but hes not there best corner jenkins is.  you might as well say front 8 but there starting front four are outstanding and they continually sub there backups who would start on any other ncaaf team.  the only bad game they had (no not IN TEXAS) was mich. who regardless of what they say osu and mich gameplan all year for each other.
bottom line folks osu is better on both sides of the ball and will win comfortably here!!!!
GO BUCKS!!!!
osu-7 =
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