CAR/TRUCK/SUV/ OR MINIVAN?
I have had them all, but drive a car now.
1. whats the most you won on a middle?
2. why do you think people are dumb enough to bet a if bet if they can make more on a 2 teamer?
3. why do you think people think locals will pay you if you get em for 50 k (im talking % not all street guys, gotta guy who has had (4) 800 numbers since the 80s and pays like a rocket) ?
lets just skip right to my questions, thanks
bonus question * how much did you win or did you win on the 49ers vs chargers superbowl?
1. whats the most you won on a middle?
2. why do you think people are dumb enough to bet a if bet if they can make more on a 2 teamer?
3. why do you think people think locals will pay you if you get em for 50 k (im talking % not all street guys, gotta guy who has had (4) 800 numbers since the 80s and pays like a rocket) ?
lets just skip right to my questions, thanks
bonus question * how much did you win or did you win on the 49ers vs chargers superbowl?
Avoiding taxes is the only way to get in legal trouble gambling. Avoiding taxes can also bankrupt you.
That is the best advice I can give you.
Avoiding taxes is the only way to get in legal trouble gambling. Avoiding taxes can also bankrupt you.
That is the best advice I can give you.
Originally Posted by pucku27 AS MUCH AS YOU BET ARE YOU DEALING WITH RUNNERS AND DO YOU GET 10% BACK ON LOSING WEEKS.
I have different arrangements. My goal is to have as few money moves as humanly possible. There is risk and cost to every move. This is consistent with my requirement that I will only play at books that I feel that I can have considerable balances with, or only enter agreements with people I know I can trust. But who are we kidding with that statement? You can trust very few people in life - so there is a cost - and a cost to the risk. That cost has become so expensive for me that I am currently considering taking a hiatus.
In the old days, I would transfer money with impunity, in and out of my bank accounts, to books, between books - anywhere. I guess the intent of the UIGEA has effectively put a stranglehold on me - cut off the money and you cut off the gambling. The funny thing is that the rec gambler can still do his thing at a -110 book with WU or CC, but the people at least risk and in need of govt protection (the guys who do this for a living) are cut off at the nuts. Also notice which books are shutting down to the US? All of the low cost books (pinnacle, betfair, MB) dont want americans. But want to play the horses, lottery, or bet -110? No problem.
Sorry, got a little off track. I dont get rebates for losing. Shops that already offer discounted juice dont offer rebates. I did get no commission at MB for about 2 years, but that ended when they switched their commission structure about 2 years ago. No commission at MB was the nuts, I was making markets all over the place with such an upside. Unfortunately, in retrospect, I didnt take advantage of it enough.
Originally Posted by pucku27 AS MUCH AS YOU BET ARE YOU DEALING WITH RUNNERS AND DO YOU GET 10% BACK ON LOSING WEEKS.
I have different arrangements. My goal is to have as few money moves as humanly possible. There is risk and cost to every move. This is consistent with my requirement that I will only play at books that I feel that I can have considerable balances with, or only enter agreements with people I know I can trust. But who are we kidding with that statement? You can trust very few people in life - so there is a cost - and a cost to the risk. That cost has become so expensive for me that I am currently considering taking a hiatus.
In the old days, I would transfer money with impunity, in and out of my bank accounts, to books, between books - anywhere. I guess the intent of the UIGEA has effectively put a stranglehold on me - cut off the money and you cut off the gambling. The funny thing is that the rec gambler can still do his thing at a -110 book with WU or CC, but the people at least risk and in need of govt protection (the guys who do this for a living) are cut off at the nuts. Also notice which books are shutting down to the US? All of the low cost books (pinnacle, betfair, MB) dont want americans. But want to play the horses, lottery, or bet -110? No problem.
Sorry, got a little off track. I dont get rebates for losing. Shops that already offer discounted juice dont offer rebates. I did get no commission at MB for about 2 years, but that ended when they switched their commission structure about 2 years ago. No commission at MB was the nuts, I was making markets all over the place with such an upside. Unfortunately, in retrospect, I didnt take advantage of it enough.
You are one of the few absolutely consistent moronic douchebags at covers.
You are one of the few absolutely consistent moronic douchebags at covers.
1. whats the most you won on a middle?
Tough question because I often dont hold middles, I try to sell a bet at the line I bought so I have nothing for the game. But I have won a few middles, nothing really worth talking about though.
2. why do you think people are dumb enough to bet a if bet if they can make more on a 2 teamer?
Almost every wager has multiple ways to bet it. Same result needed, but depending upon how you bet it, different payout.
I used to be shocked at how many people at covers didnt care that they werent maximizing their payout, but now I have come to accept it. I have posted novels here about hedging, betting parlays differently, betting futures by rolling over rather than taking a shit odds - but nobody cares because 95% of gamblers just want the action. They dont care about squeezing pennies. I make my money by squeezing pennies - and since making money is my only goal - I look at these people the way a dog looks at a squeeky toy - with my head tilted.
3. why do you think people think locals will pay you if you get em for 50 k (im talking % not all street guys, gotta guy who has had (4) 800 numbers since the 80s and pays like a rocket) ?
In the end, most gamblers dont even care if they get paid. Now Im not saying they arent pissed, but winning 50k and not getting paid wont stop them - they will get pissed - then be back at it with someone else. It is proven over and over with offshore books. People insist on playing at shit books, even though 20 minutes of research would point everyone at the same handful of safe books. Why? Because they just want action. So it doesnt surprise me at all that people who win 50k would hope they get paid, but in the end would give half of it back to just keep gambling.
bonus question * how much did you win or did you win on the 49ers vs chargers superbowl?
If I remember that correctly, that game came down to a last minute score or non score that decided it - the spread was about 14 - and I lost with the chargers. Not sure of the amount I lost, but it wasnt really a big deal for me.
1. whats the most you won on a middle?
Tough question because I often dont hold middles, I try to sell a bet at the line I bought so I have nothing for the game. But I have won a few middles, nothing really worth talking about though.
2. why do you think people are dumb enough to bet a if bet if they can make more on a 2 teamer?
Almost every wager has multiple ways to bet it. Same result needed, but depending upon how you bet it, different payout.
I used to be shocked at how many people at covers didnt care that they werent maximizing their payout, but now I have come to accept it. I have posted novels here about hedging, betting parlays differently, betting futures by rolling over rather than taking a shit odds - but nobody cares because 95% of gamblers just want the action. They dont care about squeezing pennies. I make my money by squeezing pennies - and since making money is my only goal - I look at these people the way a dog looks at a squeeky toy - with my head tilted.
3. why do you think people think locals will pay you if you get em for 50 k (im talking % not all street guys, gotta guy who has had (4) 800 numbers since the 80s and pays like a rocket) ?
In the end, most gamblers dont even care if they get paid. Now Im not saying they arent pissed, but winning 50k and not getting paid wont stop them - they will get pissed - then be back at it with someone else. It is proven over and over with offshore books. People insist on playing at shit books, even though 20 minutes of research would point everyone at the same handful of safe books. Why? Because they just want action. So it doesnt surprise me at all that people who win 50k would hope they get paid, but in the end would give half of it back to just keep gambling.
bonus question * how much did you win or did you win on the 49ers vs chargers superbowl?
If I remember that correctly, that game came down to a last minute score or non score that decided it - the spread was about 14 - and I lost with the chargers. Not sure of the amount I lost, but it wasnt really a big deal for me.
Van ,
Do you own any Exotic Cars like a Ferarri , Lamborghini?
I went through a car phase, even argued cars here with poster BLING, but right now I couldnt give a shit. As mentioned above, I am on the waitlist for an electric.
Van ,
Do you own any Exotic Cars like a Ferarri , Lamborghini?
I went through a car phase, even argued cars here with poster BLING, but right now I couldnt give a shit. As mentioned above, I am on the waitlist for an electric.
Agreed. SA was a great poster.
Agreed. SA was a great poster.
I promise to get to this. I have a real hard time thinking of them off the top of my head. For instance, if I watch a gameshow that asks a question where you have to come up with the answer out of thin air (like jeopardy), I have a very hard time accessing that info. But give me a multiple choice, even if there are 100 choices, I do very well.
My problem with this question - along with the movie question above - is that I have trouble accessing the correct info. I want a little time to investigate this so that I give a proper answer. I will answer it before my ass totally burns on the hot seat.
I promise to get to this. I have a real hard time thinking of them off the top of my head. For instance, if I watch a gameshow that asks a question where you have to come up with the answer out of thin air (like jeopardy), I have a very hard time accessing that info. But give me a multiple choice, even if there are 100 choices, I do very well.
My problem with this question - along with the movie question above - is that I have trouble accessing the correct info. I want a little time to investigate this so that I give a proper answer. I will answer it before my ass totally burns on the hot seat.
Sorry kurshka - I will first ask you a question to your question:
Knowing how I gamble, and how I make it work, do you think I bet horses?
Answer:
The vig in horseracing is outrageous. That is rule #1 for me - DONT BET IN TO HIGH VIG LINES. Parimutuel lines are absurd house hold.
Horse racing is in the bingo, lottery, and roulette category for me - a never bet unless I am drunk, on a cruise ship, or a guest of D Wayne Lukas at Churchill Downs in May.
Sorry kurshka - I will first ask you a question to your question:
Knowing how I gamble, and how I make it work, do you think I bet horses?
Answer:
The vig in horseracing is outrageous. That is rule #1 for me - DONT BET IN TO HIGH VIG LINES. Parimutuel lines are absurd house hold.
Horse racing is in the bingo, lottery, and roulette category for me - a never bet unless I am drunk, on a cruise ship, or a guest of D Wayne Lukas at Churchill Downs in May.
I dont really. I am not connected like that. I am somewhat a new school solo flyer. But whatever works for you, keep at it. I just dont have the skill that you do, and your style would be unsustainable for me.
I would like to shoot the shit with you, I shoot the shit with a lot of guys I have met on covers through email etc - but you are not the type of person I think I would like. You seem unstable, and to be honest I am already suspicious of your motives of asking such a request - which is not a good thing. Maybe you should take a different approach with people you want to engage. For now, I will pass.
I dont really. I am not connected like that. I am somewhat a new school solo flyer. But whatever works for you, keep at it. I just dont have the skill that you do, and your style would be unsustainable for me.
I would like to shoot the shit with you, I shoot the shit with a lot of guys I have met on covers through email etc - but you are not the type of person I think I would like. You seem unstable, and to be honest I am already suspicious of your motives of asking such a request - which is not a good thing. Maybe you should take a different approach with people you want to engage. For now, I will pass.
Sorry kurshka - I will first ask you a question to your question:
Knowing how I gamble, and how I make it work, do you think I bet horses?
Answer:
The vig in horseracing is outrageous. That is rule #1 for me - DONT BET IN TO HIGH VIG LINES. Parimutuel lines are absurd house hold.
Horse racing is in the bingo, lottery, and roulette category for me - a never bet unless I am drunk, on a cruise ship, or a guest of D Wayne Lukas at Churchill Downs in May.
Fair enough
Sorry kurshka - I will first ask you a question to your question:
Knowing how I gamble, and how I make it work, do you think I bet horses?
Answer:
The vig in horseracing is outrageous. That is rule #1 for me - DONT BET IN TO HIGH VIG LINES. Parimutuel lines are absurd house hold.
Horse racing is in the bingo, lottery, and roulette category for me - a never bet unless I am drunk, on a cruise ship, or a guest of D Wayne Lukas at Churchill Downs in May.
Fair enough
Have heard of it, and have seen it. But not sure what info it offers that I can get elsewhere. Maybe you can fill me in?
Have heard of it, and have seen it. But not sure what info it offers that I can get elsewhere. Maybe you can fill me in?
I dont really. I am not connected like that. I am somewhat a new school solo flyer. But whatever works for you, keep at it. I just dont have the skill that you do, and your style would be unsustainable for me.
I would like to shoot the shit with you, I shoot the shit with a lot of guys I have met on covers through email etc - but you are not the type of person I think I would like. You seem unstable, and to be honest I am already suspicious of your motives of asking such a request - which is not a good thing. Maybe you should take a different approach with people you want to engage. For now, I will pass.
I dont really. I am not connected like that. I am somewhat a new school solo flyer. But whatever works for you, keep at it. I just dont have the skill that you do, and your style would be unsustainable for me.
I would like to shoot the shit with you, I shoot the shit with a lot of guys I have met on covers through email etc - but you are not the type of person I think I would like. You seem unstable, and to be honest I am already suspicious of your motives of asking such a request - which is not a good thing. Maybe you should take a different approach with people you want to engage. For now, I will pass.
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