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Turbovtk

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Posted: May. 14, 2013 - 1:28 AM ET #12351

Quote Originally Posted by antonis85:

its like the players are taking orders through hidden headphones like this: hey kevin miss this free throw. hey kevin make this one. hey mark miss this free throw so that there is a 2 point lead not a 3. hey mark make sure you leave the lane open so durant can just drive right in and lay it up. hey derek turn it over on the inbound. hey mark make them both now and kevin finish off your pathetic overtime brick performance by missing the uncontested layup at the end. we didnt do all this work for nothing now kevin. dont worry your time will come. just like lbj said when he lost against dallas ''the man upstairs knows when my time will come''. that same man upstairs i am sure will return all the favors you have done for him kevin in time.

This game should have been over before OT by 4- if what you said above was intercepted and buzzzzzzzzzzzed so it could not be understood.

Dont forget the message to the Refs-

So much Drama- but it worked in my favor for the most part- could have used one less basked or 5 less for other things- All in all can't complain to get what I got on a fix getting unfixed.

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Posted: May. 14, 2013 - 1:33 AM ET #12352

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antonis85

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Posted: May. 14, 2013 - 1:38 AM ET #12353

yes it worked out for you turbo i am glad. what message are you referring to?

Quote Originally Posted by Turbovtk:

This game should have been over before OT by 4- if what you said above was intercepted and buzzzzzzzzzzzed so it could not be understood.

Dont forget the message to the Refs-

So much Drama- but it worked in my favor for the most part- could have used one less basked or 5 less for other things- All in all can't complain to get what I got on a fix getting unfixed.

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ridibets

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Posted: May. 14, 2013 - 8:39 AM ET #12354

alright so right on queue, 0-2-1 monday.

ill just say it right now and format and explain later.

SA - GS

i will be taking over 49-50 1Q. im thinking that will be the line when it comes out.

also will most probably be on GS+7 and ( o98 1half or GS +1.5 1Q)

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Turbovtk

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Posted: May. 14, 2013 - 9:03 AM ET #12355

Quote Originally Posted by ridibets:

alright so right on queue, 0-2-1 monday.

ill just say it right now and format and explain later.

SA - GS

i will be taking over 49-50 1Q. im thinking that will be the line when it comes out.

also will most probably be on GS+7 and ( o98 1half or GS +1.5 1Q)

we must look at similar things when analyzing games- Leaning the same way on most things- Still on the fence on the total for half and game- I had both wrong last time but that included a 6 min no point stretch from GS. I was able to hedge with an under in OT live as you may have read but the trend has been to go under total and adjust live (except for game 1 which went over by a couple of buckets)

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Turbovtk

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Posted: May. 14, 2013 - 9:06 AM ET #12356

Quote Originally Posted by antonis85:

QUOTEyes it worked out for you turbo i am glad. what message are you referring to?

I was just trying to also point out what you were saying about the game being scripted.

I will add that the refs tried hard very hard to get OKC to win late- That out of bound play was pure drama and bs jackson was practically holding the ball when he went out of bounds.

and someone on the off season please get rid of that kevin durant rule of swinging the arms and getting a foul that its either off foul or no call.

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Turbovtk

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Posted: May. 14, 2013 - 9:08 AM ET #12357

Quote Originally Posted by baseonstat:

no comprendo

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Turbovtk

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Posted: May. 14, 2013 - 12:11 PM ET #12358

Quote Originally Posted by Turbovtk:

I am rolling with the Heat here because I they are the better team, they have more depth and at some point the Bulls will give up. Is today the day, I hope so, once again the refs will have whistle wound up to call the fouls, they may even have back up whistles in their pockets in case people go to see a basketball game and an UFC bout breaks out. The Heat won the last game without really cooperation from James (yes late but not a big day) and wade went from being Batman to being Robin to now being ball boy- He still has it I think however they are using him as a distraction to open up other players. I think this game should have a few more 3s fall for the Heat-

The Grizz are the better team as the teams stand- OKC is relying on trying to outscore memphis and not defending- Memphis has only gotten in trouble in this series when they try to run with the Thunder, they need to play like what they are Bears tough and Physical a Bear will never out run puma like animal- I think that if they saw the film they will see that when they slowed it down played D and looked for Gasol and Zebo in the paint they were in total control, turnovers and fast break points almost did them in the last game. If they stick to this game plan they win, if they decide to have a track meet they will lose.

As for the Under, with the exception of Game 2 and meaningless 5 pts at the end of the game the games have not really threaten the over. I would take under if a slow start hedge on a 10-15 basis or more, on a fast start that gets this to print 197-200 live I will double down on the Under play.

I do think the OKC game could be a close game so there is also a Teaser. I would post them here but don't know that people are doing teasers or parlays more of straight picks.

Game on what what!!!

Things worked out for the most part last night. I think the Bulls as expected have waved the white flag, thrown in the towel. It was just a matter of time before a bench less team gave up because of all the minutes the players have been forced to play. They had no legs no spark even Nate was quiet. Now the line in MIA is as high as other games- I don't know if Bulls try to make one last push early then head away to their vacation homes and regroup next year. That being said the Heat do not like the Bulls so they would not hesitate to pound them. I am not touching this line for now, maybe on a 3 team teaser but that may be about it. Time to start looking at Knicks and Pacers, either team matches well with Heat but I don't see how they can beat a team that is healthy and in sync.

As for the Grizz game I think the better team won, late in the season OKC even with Westbrook showed they have issues closing the tight games. This was first spotted when they lost at Home to Nuggets, then lost a close one to the Grizz in Memphis, then Wolves, Knicks, Bucks same deal all on the tail end of the season. I think this has more to do with coaching, play calling and clock management than talent. That being said I am on Grizz again if they win fine, if they lose series should end the following game after a loss. Only 8 Teams have comeback from 3-1 in NBA- in NHL it is 20- it almost became 21 last night if not for the miracle comeback by the Bruins.

Today leaning GS for same reason as the other games, young team more hunger, and while it may be warranted I don't know that Spurs deserve all the juice they get on their lines. Sure there is a lot of talent and alot of rings and accolades in that team but that is in the past, if experience won everytime the Super Bowl should have been won by someone other than the Raven. I think youth plays a big part. I think that is what drives GS- again the key for them is they have to shoot 50% or better from the floor and get the offensive board, keep bogut out of foul trouble and have curry and thompson drop some 3s get ahead then learn to manage the end of the game- that is the one thing that youth lacks is ability to close.

Interesting trend so far as far as I can recall all the OT games in the playoffs in NBA have gone the way of the home team.

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Quote Originally Posted by Turbovtk:

I am rolling with the Heat here because I they are the better team, they have more depth and at some point the Bulls will give up. Is today the day, I hope so, once again the refs will have whistle wound up to call the fouls, they may even have back up whistles in their pockets in case people go to see a basketball game and an UFC bout breaks out. The Heat won the last game without really cooperation from James (yes late but not a big day) and wade went from being Batman to being Robin to now being ball boy- He still has it I think however they are using him as a distraction to open up other players. I think this game should have a few more 3s fall for the Heat-

The Grizz are the better team as the teams stand- OKC is relying on trying to outscore memphis and not defending- Memphis has only gotten in trouble in this series when they try to run with the Thunder, they need to play like what they are Bears tough and Physical a Bear will never out run puma like animal- I think that if they saw the film they will see that when they slowed it down played D and looked for Gasol and Zebo in the paint they were in total control, turnovers and fast break points almost did them in the last game. If they stick to this game plan they win, if they decide to have a track meet they will lose.

As for the Under, with the exception of Game 2 and meaningless 5 pts at the end of the game the games have not really threaten the over. I would take under if a slow start hedge on a 10-15 basis or more, on a fast start that gets this to print 197-200 live I will double down on the Under play.

I do think the OKC game could be a close game so there is also a Teaser. I would post them here but don't know that people are doing teasers or parlays more of straight picks.

Game on what what!!!

Things worked out for the most part last night. I think the Bulls as expected have waved the white flag, thrown in the towel. It was just a matter of time before a bench less team gave up because of all the minutes the players have been forced to play. They had no legs no spark even Nate was quiet. Now the line in MIA is as high as other games- I don't know if Bulls try to make one last push early then head away to their vacation homes and regroup next year. That being said the Heat do not like the Bulls so they would not hesitate to pound them. I am not touching this line for now, maybe on a 3 team teaser but that may be about it. Time to start looking at Knicks and Pacers, either team matches well with Heat but I don't see how they can beat a team that is healthy and in sync.

As for the Grizz game I think the better team won, late in the season OKC even with Westbrook showed they have issues closing the tight games. This was first spotted when they lost at Home to Nuggets, then lost a close one to the Grizz in Memphis, then Wolves, Knicks, Bucks same deal all on the tail end of the season. I think this has more to do with coaching, play calling and clock management than talent. That being said I am on Grizz again if they win fine, if they lose series should end the following game after a loss. Only 8 Teams have comeback from 3-1 in NBA- in NHL it is 20- it almost became 21 last night if not for the miracle comeback by the Bruins.

Today leaning GS for same reason as the other games, young team more hunger, and while it may be warranted I don't know that Spurs deserve all the juice they get on their lines. Sure there is a lot of talent and alot of rings and accolades in that team but that is in the past, if experience won everytime the Super Bowl should have been won by someone other than the Raven. I think youth plays a big part. I think that is what drives GS- again the key for them is they have to shoot 50% or better from the floor and get the offensive board, keep bogut out of foul trouble and have curry and thompson drop some 3s get ahead then learn to manage the end of the game- that is the one thing that youth lacks is ability to close.

Interesting trend so far as far as I can recall all the OT games in the playoffs in NBA have gone the way of the home team.

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Posted: May. 14, 2013 - 1:34 PM ET #12359

yikes, if you look at the refs assigned they are heavy on the home fav between 5-9.5pts.

got me thinking about GS+7 right now.

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Turbovtk

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Posted: May. 14, 2013 - 1:40 PM ET #12360

Quote Originally Posted by ridibets:

yikes, if you look at the refs assigned they are heavy on the home fav between 5-9.5pts.

got me thinking about GS+7 right now.

I think yesterday the refs had an agenda and somehow it backfired- GS is not a team that prides on D or hacking people so it may not be an issue but not sure- i don't do ref scouting - need to learn how to look for this stuff.

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Posted: May. 14, 2013 - 3:24 PM ET #12361

GS plays good defense. The problem is the samething could happen and refs can get GS bigs in foul trouble again. If that happens two games in a row then you know something fishy is happening.

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Turbovtk

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Posted: May. 14, 2013 - 3:40 PM ET #12362

Quote Originally Posted by ridibets:

GS plays good defense. The problem is the samething could happen and refs can get GS bigs in foul trouble again. If that happens two games in a row then you know something fishy is happening.

Yup lots of phantom fouls on bogut last time.

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Posted: May. 14, 2013 - 3:48 PM ET #12363

Quote Originally Posted by Turbovtk:

We were on opp. sides everywhere today Mavin- I had Bruins and Caps together and separate and also had the 1.5 lines on both dogs together. Was going to go Over Bruins total and Under Caps but stood away from totals too much drama.

I really thought that Bruins game was lost and for all intents and purposes it was, but glad for the win.

Ha ha ha

Yesterday for me was one of those almost days in betting, only supporting or trading.

In Binaries I went 1-1 but had 2-0 in the hat and right after the expity time also would have gone 2-0 but I ;ll take that split as I seldom split but that is OK.

In Hockey I wanted the series between my Leafs and one my best friend's Rangers. Well, we almost had it and already were ready to make flight arrangements to attend the whole series together both with our team's jerseys on and then you know what happened - his Rangers went through and my useless floor math Leafs managed to squander the lead, the game and the series in 1.5 minutes (2 goals) and in another 5 the third one.

In NBA I was right on with the Thunder who did exactly what were they supposed to do with precision to be desired by rocket scientist and managed to squander a lead, then the game and finally the cover. What can I say - at least you can partially have your tail up

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Turbovtk

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Posted: May. 14, 2013 - 4:32 PM ET #12364

Quote Originally Posted by SportsMavin:

Ha ha ha

Yesterday for me was one of those almost days in betting, only supporting or trading.

In Binaries I went 1-1 but had 2-0 in the hat and right after the expity time also would have gone 2-0 but I ;ll take that split as I seldom split but that is OK.

In Hockey I wanted the series between my Leafs and one my best friend's Rangers. Well, we almost had it and already were ready to make flight arrangements to attend the whole series together both with our team's jerseys on and then you know what happened - his Rangers went through and my useless floor math Leafs managed to squander the lead, the game and the series in 1.5 minutes (2 goals) and in another 5 the third one.

In NBA I was right on with the Thunder who did exactly what were they supposed to do with precision to be desired by rocket scientist and managed to squander a lead, then the game and finally the cover. What can I say - at least you can partially have your tail up

That sucked that you had plans that were ruined, I however am all about the money but I understand what you are saying.

As for the Thunder doing exactly what you said you are right, however this was my analysis...

"The Grizz are the better team as the teams stand- OKC is relying on trying to outscore memphis and not defending- Memphis has only gotten in trouble in this series when they try to run with the Thunder, they need to play like what they are Bears tough and Physical a Bear will never out run puma like animal- I think that if they saw the film they will see that when they slowed it down played D and looked for Gasol and Zebo in the paint they were in total control, turnovers and fast break points almost did them in the last game. If they stick to this game plan they win, if they decide to have a track meet they will lose."

The Grizz did just what I told them not to do which is to try and run with the Thunder. Then they did what they should be doing which is slow the game down and play Defense. If they would have not tried to run buck wild at the start this would not have been pretty for the Thunder. Similar thing is what the Spurs are exp. with the Warriors, as long as the Warriors keep running and Spurs keep trying to run they will not advance, and I am counting on that.

I am on the Grizz next game most likely- and I hope they learn to stick to their guns, an orthopedic surgeon does not go ahead and perform brain surgery- people have to stick to what they do best to succeed in life. Same goes for sports, when was the last time you saw Howard, Cabrera, McGuire, Rodriguez bunt more than once-