Hey Phix, can you explain why you're taking DAAA raiders here? Raiders been balling out of their minds the last 3 weeks, should've won the Den game if it wasn't for the pick 6 by Carr. I think this is a good example of public buying into Oakland winning 2 straight and Pitt losing 2 in a row. I still think Pitt is the better team and also west coast team traveling to the east coast playing the early game has always given the west coast team issues. My lean is on Pitt, but what do i know.
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Quote Originally Posted by phixer:
NFL Week 9: PIT Steelers vs OAK Raiders
This is a 5 Units Play
OAK Raiders +4.5 -110 550$
Hey Phix, can you explain why you're taking DAAA raiders here? Raiders been balling out of their minds the last 3 weeks, should've won the Den game if it wasn't for the pick 6 by Carr. I think this is a good example of public buying into Oakland winning 2 straight and Pitt losing 2 in a row. I still think Pitt is the better team and also west coast team traveling to the east coast playing the early game has always given the west coast team issues. My lean is on Pitt, but what do i know.
When I first saw the 39.5, I was definitely thinking over. However, considering it's two heavy-run-based teams which means the clock will not stop ticking, along with the fact that both teams are somewhat decent, I decided to avoid this outcome all together.
If you don't mind me asking, what about this game makes you not only lean OVER, but confident enough to make one of your public picks?
Also, what exactly does "units play" mean? Is there a key or legend on here that defines common betting terminology?
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Quote Originally Posted by phixer:
NFL Week 9: MIN Vikings vs STL Rams Totals
This is a 5 Units Play
Over 39.5 -110 550$
When I first saw the 39.5, I was definitely thinking over. However, considering it's two heavy-run-based teams which means the clock will not stop ticking, along with the fact that both teams are somewhat decent, I decided to avoid this outcome all together.
If you don't mind me asking, what about this game makes you not only lean OVER, but confident enough to make one of your public picks?
Also, what exactly does "units play" mean? Is there a key or legend on here that defines common betting terminology?
Also, what exactly does "units play" mean? Is there a key or legend on here that defines common betting terminology?
I think "units play" means how much you bet. If one unit for you is $100, then a 5 units play at -110 means you bet $550 to win $500. What you deem as a unit to you depends on your bankroll, or how much you have at your disposal. I think the goal is to bet small enough so that you don't get too stressed if it doesn't win, and so that you have enough to handle a string of losses, in the worst case scenario.
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Quote Originally Posted by bigdripper:
Also, what exactly does "units play" mean? Is there a key or legend on here that defines common betting terminology?
I think "units play" means how much you bet. If one unit for you is $100, then a 5 units play at -110 means you bet $550 to win $500. What you deem as a unit to you depends on your bankroll, or how much you have at your disposal. I think the goal is to bet small enough so that you don't get too stressed if it doesn't win, and so that you have enough to handle a string of losses, in the worst case scenario.
Hey Phix, can you explain why you're taking DAAA raiders here? Raiders been balling out of their minds the last 3 weeks, should've won the Den game if it wasn't for the pick 6 by Carr. I think this is a good example of public buying into Oakland winning 2 straight and Pitt losing 2 in a row. I still think Pitt is the better team and also west coast team traveling to the east coast playing the early game has always given the west coast team issues. My lean is on Pitt, but what do i know.
i have no idea where you get your info about what is public on and if you do have the source to see the money and where you get that from, but i do have a pretty good idea your numbers are wrong. so is your assumption that if the raiders have been letting the other teams to cover - that will be a scenario here. and the third mistake you are making is assuming that +4.5 means that the steelers must lose. comprehending the stuff you're reading is a must thing to protect your money. so i suggest you study your stuff before backing it with money
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Quote Originally Posted by lenchoone:
Hey Phix, can you explain why you're taking DAAA raiders here? Raiders been balling out of their minds the last 3 weeks, should've won the Den game if it wasn't for the pick 6 by Carr. I think this is a good example of public buying into Oakland winning 2 straight and Pitt losing 2 in a row. I still think Pitt is the better team and also west coast team traveling to the east coast playing the early game has always given the west coast team issues. My lean is on Pitt, but what do i know.
i have no idea where you get your info about what is public on and if you do have the source to see the money and where you get that from, but i do have a pretty good idea your numbers are wrong. so is your assumption that if the raiders have been letting the other teams to cover - that will be a scenario here. and the third mistake you are making is assuming that +4.5 means that the steelers must lose. comprehending the stuff you're reading is a must thing to protect your money. so i suggest you study your stuff before backing it with money
I'm trying, thanks to beginners luck on a first time parlay card in week 3, but it's becoming increasingly frustrating each week. At this rate, I will have erased my week 3 gains by seasons end. I've only played parlay cards and consistently do pretty well, but being I'm not playing horseshoes, nailing 6 out of 8 is as fruitful as going 0-8.
I started small, only playing a couple $10 six team parlays. Looking at the $400 payout and the ease of picking games, I decided to increase the payout and switched to eight teamers. Having won in my first week, then going 5-5 on my early games in week 4, with only three locks left in the late games, I thought this was easy money and too good to be true. Enter Arizona and Green Bay who turned three locks into a 6-8 loss. Having won the week before and increasing the number of picks, I played a couple of extra tickets. After the early games I was already counting my newfound easy money. By the time the late games were through, even though I'd only lost $40 of house money, it really felt like I lost $1500 of my money. Since then I've come equally as close, but can't find that perfect combination.
This week I went back to the beginning and only took a couple of six teamers. Unfortunately, your UNDER came too late and I had already calculated OVER. The good news is, it happened last night and not on Sunday; so, I still have to go back and lose more! Fun! The better news is I've found this site!
just tail my picks instead of getting too high on yourself - parlays? better send money straight to vegas. once in a long while? may be. you seem totally green to betting and will have to lose few tens of thousands of dollars before understanding the concept -or simply tail me. don't be lazy and read all i wrote from 4 years ago till now. that will save lots of money and ego
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Quote Originally Posted by bigdripper:
I'm trying, thanks to beginners luck on a first time parlay card in week 3, but it's becoming increasingly frustrating each week. At this rate, I will have erased my week 3 gains by seasons end. I've only played parlay cards and consistently do pretty well, but being I'm not playing horseshoes, nailing 6 out of 8 is as fruitful as going 0-8.
I started small, only playing a couple $10 six team parlays. Looking at the $400 payout and the ease of picking games, I decided to increase the payout and switched to eight teamers. Having won in my first week, then going 5-5 on my early games in week 4, with only three locks left in the late games, I thought this was easy money and too good to be true. Enter Arizona and Green Bay who turned three locks into a 6-8 loss. Having won the week before and increasing the number of picks, I played a couple of extra tickets. After the early games I was already counting my newfound easy money. By the time the late games were through, even though I'd only lost $40 of house money, it really felt like I lost $1500 of my money. Since then I've come equally as close, but can't find that perfect combination.
This week I went back to the beginning and only took a couple of six teamers. Unfortunately, your UNDER came too late and I had already calculated OVER. The good news is, it happened last night and not on Sunday; so, I still have to go back and lose more! Fun! The better news is I've found this site!
just tail my picks instead of getting too high on yourself - parlays? better send money straight to vegas. once in a long while? may be. you seem totally green to betting and will have to lose few tens of thousands of dollars before understanding the concept -or simply tail me. don't be lazy and read all i wrote from 4 years ago till now. that will save lots of money and ego
I think "units play" means how much you bet. If one unit for you is $100, then a 5 units play at -110 means you bet $550 to win $500. What you deem as a unit to you depends on your bankroll, or how much you have at your disposal. I think the goal is to bet small enough so that you don't get too stressed if it doesn't win, and so that you have enough to handle a string of losses, in the worst case scenario.
Thanks, hohos. So, is 5 like a 5 on a scale of 1-10 in confidence level, or what would be the "max Units Play" I may see? Maybe what I'm asking is, if he felt he an an almost guaranteed lock, what Units Play might I expect that to be labeled as?
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Quote Originally Posted by hohos:
I think "units play" means how much you bet. If one unit for you is $100, then a 5 units play at -110 means you bet $550 to win $500. What you deem as a unit to you depends on your bankroll, or how much you have at your disposal. I think the goal is to bet small enough so that you don't get too stressed if it doesn't win, and so that you have enough to handle a string of losses, in the worst case scenario.
Thanks, hohos. So, is 5 like a 5 on a scale of 1-10 in confidence level, or what would be the "max Units Play" I may see? Maybe what I'm asking is, if he felt he an an almost guaranteed lock, what Units Play might I expect that to be labeled as?
just tail my picks instead of getting too high on yourself - parlays? better send money straight to vegas. once in a long while? may be. you seem totally green to betting and will have to lose few tens of thousands of dollars before understanding the concept -or simply tail me. don't be lazy and read all i wrote from 4 years ago till now. that will save lots of money and ego
Thanks, Phix. Tens of thousands, not likely. I'm definitely green to betting and definitely just dabbling in it. I figure the payout vs. putout on a parlay is a bit like a lottery, but one with a little better odds. I just had never bought into the Vegas rigging until I started watching multiple games a little more closely. What I've seen just since week 4 has had my eyebrows raised. I didn't even mention Seattle slamming the breaks on vs. San Fran that Thursday night after running all over them for the first 25 minutes. All of the sudden, what do you know, UNDER WINS! Or Philly having success running Mathews against Carolina, so what do they do? They stop giving him the ball. Definitely not what one would expect from "professionals" who play and coach the game for a living.
Being new to the site, I wasn't aware that past posts were retrievable. I will have to look and read up on your past writings.
As for tailing you, I will look to include some of your picks in my parlays, or at least use your picks to further confirm or debunk mine, it really depends on if I see them prior to playing my cards.
Thanks for the wisdom.
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Quote Originally Posted by phixer:
just tail my picks instead of getting too high on yourself - parlays? better send money straight to vegas. once in a long while? may be. you seem totally green to betting and will have to lose few tens of thousands of dollars before understanding the concept -or simply tail me. don't be lazy and read all i wrote from 4 years ago till now. that will save lots of money and ego
Thanks, Phix. Tens of thousands, not likely. I'm definitely green to betting and definitely just dabbling in it. I figure the payout vs. putout on a parlay is a bit like a lottery, but one with a little better odds. I just had never bought into the Vegas rigging until I started watching multiple games a little more closely. What I've seen just since week 4 has had my eyebrows raised. I didn't even mention Seattle slamming the breaks on vs. San Fran that Thursday night after running all over them for the first 25 minutes. All of the sudden, what do you know, UNDER WINS! Or Philly having success running Mathews against Carolina, so what do they do? They stop giving him the ball. Definitely not what one would expect from "professionals" who play and coach the game for a living.
Being new to the site, I wasn't aware that past posts were retrievable. I will have to look and read up on your past writings.
As for tailing you, I will look to include some of your picks in my parlays, or at least use your picks to further confirm or debunk mine, it really depends on if I see them prior to playing my cards.
Thanks for saying out loud what I have been increasingly thinking -- that these primetime games are seemingly "scripted" with crazy back door covers and sudden changes in momentum. It's best to follow the Phixer as he is not perfect, but is absolutely the best guide thru the Jungles of Betting.
Phixer,
Surely Cincy has their ATS losses coming as they are now 8-0-1 ATS. When is the right time to pounce. Already came prematurely the last two weeks, LOL.
(Let the jokes follow)!!
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BigDripper,
Thanks for saying out loud what I have been increasingly thinking -- that these primetime games are seemingly "scripted" with crazy back door covers and sudden changes in momentum. It's best to follow the Phixer as he is not perfect, but is absolutely the best guide thru the Jungles of Betting.
Phixer,
Surely Cincy has their ATS losses coming as they are now 8-0-1 ATS. When is the right time to pounce. Already came prematurely the last two weeks, LOL.
Tien2262 you are hands down the biggest troll ive seen...how bad is your life that you follow a winning guys thread and only make a comment when he has a loss?! the ultimate loser...enjoy your parents basement
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Quote Originally Posted by Tien2262:
Nice pick first half son
Tien2262 you are hands down the biggest troll ive seen...how bad is your life that you follow a winning guys thread and only make a comment when he has a loss?! the ultimate loser...enjoy your parents basement
Thanks, hohos. So, is 5 like a 5 on a scale of 1-10 in confidence level, or what would be the "max Units Play" I may see? Maybe what I'm asking is, if he felt he an an almost guaranteed lock, what Units Play might I expect that to be labeled as?
You can take a look at the Phixer's past posts, but I think most of the picks are 5 units, with some 10 unit and 3 unit plays in there as well. If I remember correctly, the 3 unit plays are the rarest.
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Quote Originally Posted by bigdripper:
Thanks, hohos. So, is 5 like a 5 on a scale of 1-10 in confidence level, or what would be the "max Units Play" I may see? Maybe what I'm asking is, if he felt he an an almost guaranteed lock, what Units Play might I expect that to be labeled as?
You can take a look at the Phixer's past posts, but I think most of the picks are 5 units, with some 10 unit and 3 unit plays in there as well. If I remember correctly, the 3 unit plays are the rarest.
Till the playoffs come - 3 units are just "don't want to be bored watching" picks, 5 units are regular picks and 10 units are "i think we have to cash in on our edge" picks. Once the playoffs will be here and the system plays will begin - there will be follow ups martingale style (which hopefully will not be needed) and some sequences may go up to 50 units as well. but only if those will be part of already accumulated through profits bankroll.
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Till the playoffs come - 3 units are just "don't want to be bored watching" picks, 5 units are regular picks and 10 units are "i think we have to cash in on our edge" picks. Once the playoffs will be here and the system plays will begin - there will be follow ups martingale style (which hopefully will not be needed) and some sequences may go up to 50 units as well. but only if those will be part of already accumulated through profits bankroll.
I dont like playing totals much, but dang I think that over 39.5 looks real solid.
like?
over the years of handicapping you learn one thing - if you're willing to learn - wherever there is more thrill and "liking", there is less chances of making money. most good winning bets are ones you suffer through. unders will always be the best bet in football as no one likes to watch a game and root for "no scoring". it is against our nature. and vegas knows it very well. so whenever we are presented with a chance to cash on over -that is a celebration for me
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Quote Originally Posted by bpickin:
I dont like playing totals much, but dang I think that over 39.5 looks real solid.
like?
over the years of handicapping you learn one thing - if you're willing to learn - wherever there is more thrill and "liking", there is less chances of making money. most good winning bets are ones you suffer through. unders will always be the best bet in football as no one likes to watch a game and root for "no scoring". it is against our nature. and vegas knows it very well. so whenever we are presented with a chance to cash on over -that is a celebration for me
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