Personally, I like anyone who makes others money and asks for nothing. I agree Jeff that there are those who wish to call you out and create havoc anyway they can. I have read through the thread and for so many to be uneducated in money management, the system itself or "what do we play next", is just really tiring. READ!
On the other hand, the supporters appreciate your ideas and management principles that have earned them some jack. I have seen many from different sites, give up and leave due to the bashing for no reason other than they have proven successful even if it is for a short time.
And the there are the low lifes (touts, tout wannabees, etc. that just wish to crash the party, yet have one excuse after the other of why folks should not invest in this crazy scheme, because they are habitual losers themselves and have very little else going on in their lives which can also reveal a jealousy.
I suggest to not answer these folks in any manner that mean to demesn you or create distractions. Conserve your energy for what you do best. I have not made one cent on your system, but I endorse you making the effort to create a system and as with any system, the full implementation of money management. It is the money management that will sink those who do not apply it consistently. Best of Luck in both systems you bring to the fore front.
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Personally, I like anyone who makes others money and asks for nothing. I agree Jeff that there are those who wish to call you out and create havoc anyway they can. I have read through the thread and for so many to be uneducated in money management, the system itself or "what do we play next", is just really tiring. READ!
On the other hand, the supporters appreciate your ideas and management principles that have earned them some jack. I have seen many from different sites, give up and leave due to the bashing for no reason other than they have proven successful even if it is for a short time.
And the there are the low lifes (touts, tout wannabees, etc. that just wish to crash the party, yet have one excuse after the other of why folks should not invest in this crazy scheme, because they are habitual losers themselves and have very little else going on in their lives which can also reveal a jealousy.
I suggest to not answer these folks in any manner that mean to demesn you or create distractions. Conserve your energy for what you do best. I have not made one cent on your system, but I endorse you making the effort to create a system and as with any system, the full implementation of money management. It is the money management that will sink those who do not apply it consistently. Best of Luck in both systems you bring to the fore front.
@ Awright22 - These are tracking plays only. Also, notice there is no (C) games listed... which today's game was. I'm sure JTH will address this at some time but how are you coming up with your conclusion ?
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Quote Originally Posted by JEFFTHEHAT:
Tracking plays:
4/10
CWS (A) winner
BOS (A) moves to (B) on 4/11
4/11
BOS (B)
BAL (A)
CIN +1.5 (A)
KC (A)
OAK +1.5 (A)
WAS+1.5 (A)
CHC +1.5 (A)
MIL (A)
COL +1.5 (A)
Tracking only!!!!!
@ Awright22 - These are tracking plays only. Also, notice there is no (C) games listed... which today's game was. I'm sure JTH will address this at some time but how are you coming up with your conclusion ?
If I was risking 20 grand to win 100 given the fact that I was 99% to win, I too would win everytime I came back to brag about it.
OP is a douche and a scum. They all come in here with a "system" that eventually inevitably crash. Most of their devoted followers lose the most before quitting. The "system" fools themselves (like Hat) usually end up taking out loans and sucking c0ck to make up for losses because their ego is too big to quit.
Your brain must be the size of the 0 in m0rtgageguy. You also may have a severe small c0ck complex. Get a Harley. They make lots of noise
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Quote Originally Posted by m0rtgageguy:
If I was risking 20 grand to win 100 given the fact that I was 99% to win, I too would win everytime I came back to brag about it.
OP is a douche and a scum. They all come in here with a "system" that eventually inevitably crash. Most of their devoted followers lose the most before quitting. The "system" fools themselves (like Hat) usually end up taking out loans and sucking c0ck to make up for losses because their ego is too big to quit.
Your brain must be the size of the 0 in m0rtgageguy. You also may have a severe small c0ck complex. Get a Harley. They make lots of noise
I know that the CUBS +1.5 is the play tomorrow but I'm going to bet against THE HAT on this one. I like Wainwright -1.5 at home even money. I like the results so far, but this game should lead to a (b) bet. Best of luck. Thanks again Jeff.
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I know that the CUBS +1.5 is the play tomorrow but I'm going to bet against THE HAT on this one. I like Wainwright -1.5 at home even money. I like the results so far, but this game should lead to a (b) bet. Best of luck. Thanks again Jeff.
I had the same question. It's the Rotation of Team number assigned by sports books. It's a recycled series of numbers books use to track sporting events.
That's why it's absurd. It's not based on any sound principles a wildcard factor if you will. Remarkable results so far.
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Quote Originally Posted by seepaulyoung:
What is ROT?
I had the same question. It's the Rotation of Team number assigned by sports books. It's a recycled series of numbers books use to track sporting events.
That's why it's absurd. It's not based on any sound principles a wildcard factor if you will. Remarkable results so far.
It is a system that is undefeated in 5 years . What more do you need to know ? Because it is possible for it to eventually lose once is reason enough to stay away ? Ok .
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It is a system that is undefeated in 5 years . What more do you need to know ? Because it is possible for it to eventually lose once is reason enough to stay away ? Ok .
I LOVE THE PREMISE OF THIS SYSTEM ! Been watching and using it for the past week ! HATS OFF TO YOU JEFF THE HAT !
And its quite obvious the shills that been coming in here bashing it don't want people using it. No one is Forcing you to bet people, Tail it and just shut up ! Use your own Discretion
Kudos Jeff
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I LOVE THE PREMISE OF THIS SYSTEM ! Been watching and using it for the past week ! HATS OFF TO YOU JEFF THE HAT !
And its quite obvious the shills that been coming in here bashing it don't want people using it. No one is Forcing you to bet people, Tail it and just shut up ! Use your own Discretion
I LOVE THE PREMISE OF THIS SYSTEM ! Been watching and using it for the past week ! HATS OFF TO YOU JEFF THE HAT !
And its quite obvious the shills that been coming in here bashing it don't want people using it. No one is Forcing you to bet people, Tail it and just shut up ! Use your own Discretion
Kudos Jeff
What is the system exactly? I tried going to earlier posts but it isn't clear
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Quote Originally Posted by KingStreet99:
I LOVE THE PREMISE OF THIS SYSTEM ! Been watching and using it for the past week ! HATS OFF TO YOU JEFF THE HAT !
And its quite obvious the shills that been coming in here bashing it don't want people using it. No one is Forcing you to bet people, Tail it and just shut up ! Use your own Discretion
Kudos Jeff
What is the system exactly? I tried going to earlier posts but it isn't clear
It's hard not to comment with so many flighty critics. First, yes I know about the Martingale system, but what makes this a bit different is that is based on following the first rotation underdog. I agree that perhaps any rotation number chased could produce positive results, but only true facts and figures could disapprove the choice of the first rotation number. I also think there may be something to a previous posters comment of the first rotation being one where gamblers are chomping at the bit and typically choose the favorite. It makes sense that regular money could be made on degenerates wanting early action and typically going with the favorite. On top of this, Hat has kept records that can easily be back checked for accuracy of these results. I agree that any chase system can be risky and I have seen the super informative numbers calculated stipulating the price of a full chase run up to the E game, but as the facts and figures have shown, rarely, if at all, does a chase go to the E game. Knowing this, and how at least this year has gone, rarely if at all, do games go to the E game. With this being known, people can generally build large accounts to support the E game when necessary! So far, for all nah sayers, the money earned just from A games, could support one through the process to the E game without serious risk or worry. This is important in considering the worst case scenario. It is easy to calculate the numbers as if every run went to the E game and to protest the system's worthiness, theorizing a so called F game. The problem is that this system is working now and while one may compute the odds of it lasting, it is working and in my calculations, anyone that would quit at the E game would still come out as a winner at this point. I agree that chases will eventually fail, but considering that this has been back tested five years, and has been stellar his year, one can choose to point out the inevitable failure, or cash in on the current, and last five year success! I do not typically subscribe to conspiracy theories, but it does seem very suspicious that most of the harsh critiscms are coming from NEW subscribers. It makes me wonder?! Most importantly, NO ONE is making you bet on any of these games or buy into the system. Please, get the trick out of this thread unless you have something intelligent to say that challenges the claims of this system! What makes most of your ignorant comments invalid is that you do not seem to address all aspects of the success of this system. If you are trying to save newbies from the Martingale system, it would would benefit you to do so intellectually with facts and with a complete understanding of the success of this adjusted system that has thus far proven itself. Otherwise, u discredit yourself to educated followers such as my self that is starting to become suspicious of covers. Bottom line, it has been working, no one is forcing your hand, and if you don't have something constructive to say intellectually, please, bug off!
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It's hard not to comment with so many flighty critics. First, yes I know about the Martingale system, but what makes this a bit different is that is based on following the first rotation underdog. I agree that perhaps any rotation number chased could produce positive results, but only true facts and figures could disapprove the choice of the first rotation number. I also think there may be something to a previous posters comment of the first rotation being one where gamblers are chomping at the bit and typically choose the favorite. It makes sense that regular money could be made on degenerates wanting early action and typically going with the favorite. On top of this, Hat has kept records that can easily be back checked for accuracy of these results. I agree that any chase system can be risky and I have seen the super informative numbers calculated stipulating the price of a full chase run up to the E game, but as the facts and figures have shown, rarely, if at all, does a chase go to the E game. Knowing this, and how at least this year has gone, rarely if at all, do games go to the E game. With this being known, people can generally build large accounts to support the E game when necessary! So far, for all nah sayers, the money earned just from A games, could support one through the process to the E game without serious risk or worry. This is important in considering the worst case scenario. It is easy to calculate the numbers as if every run went to the E game and to protest the system's worthiness, theorizing a so called F game. The problem is that this system is working now and while one may compute the odds of it lasting, it is working and in my calculations, anyone that would quit at the E game would still come out as a winner at this point. I agree that chases will eventually fail, but considering that this has been back tested five years, and has been stellar his year, one can choose to point out the inevitable failure, or cash in on the current, and last five year success! I do not typically subscribe to conspiracy theories, but it does seem very suspicious that most of the harsh critiscms are coming from NEW subscribers. It makes me wonder?! Most importantly, NO ONE is making you bet on any of these games or buy into the system. Please, get the trick out of this thread unless you have something intelligent to say that challenges the claims of this system! What makes most of your ignorant comments invalid is that you do not seem to address all aspects of the success of this system. If you are trying to save newbies from the Martingale system, it would would benefit you to do so intellectually with facts and with a complete understanding of the success of this adjusted system that has thus far proven itself. Otherwise, u discredit yourself to educated followers such as my self that is starting to become suspicious of covers. Bottom line, it has been working, no one is forcing your hand, and if you don't have something constructive to say intellectually, please, bug off!
Covers, if you ate involved in discrediting posters, shame on you. All you have done is lesson the chance that I purchase plays from your so called experts. Dirty deeds leave room for suspicion, I have more faith in you and your experts.
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Covers, if you ate involved in discrediting posters, shame on you. All you have done is lesson the chance that I purchase plays from your so called experts. Dirty deeds leave room for suspicion, I have more faith in you and your experts.
If I was risking 20 grand to win 100 given the fact that I was 99% to win, I too would win everytime I came back to brag about it.
OP is a douche and a scum. They all come in here with a "system" that eventually inevitably crash. Most of their devoted followers lose the most before quitting. The "system" fools themselves (like Hat) usually end up taking out loans and sucking c0ck to make up for losses because their ego is too big to quit.
You my friend need to either grow up, or investigate facts before you make yourself look sadly ignorant! Shame on you for not investigating facts before speaking. You must be embarrassed at this point. Please review the record before you embarrass yourself further.
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Quote Originally Posted by m0rtgageguy:
If I was risking 20 grand to win 100 given the fact that I was 99% to win, I too would win everytime I came back to brag about it.
OP is a douche and a scum. They all come in here with a "system" that eventually inevitably crash. Most of their devoted followers lose the most before quitting. The "system" fools themselves (like Hat) usually end up taking out loans and sucking c0ck to make up for losses because their ego is too big to quit.
You my friend need to either grow up, or investigate facts before you make yourself look sadly ignorant! Shame on you for not investigating facts before speaking. You must be embarrassed at this point. Please review the record before you embarrass yourself further.
I must add that most of the fights I have been in, guys that talked the most, were the most afraid. Trust Clint Eastwood with this. As his movies have shown, and life truly is, those that boast, are in fact most afraid and inconfident. Poor you, I wish I could talk to you before you embarrass yourself, I am sure u are a decent fellow.
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I must add that most of the fights I have been in, guys that talked the most, were the most afraid. Trust Clint Eastwood with this. As his movies have shown, and life truly is, those that boast, are in fact most afraid and inconfident. Poor you, I wish I could talk to you before you embarrass yourself, I am sure u are a decent fellow.
if every play was -220 odds for +1.5 you would need $16,069.15 to chase those odds thru play E to win a hundred $ profit every series chase
a) $220 / to win $100 L 220 + 100 = 320.00 move dec 2 to the left [3.20 * 220] (for play B) = 704 vvv
b) 704 / to win 100 L 704 + 100 = " " " "
c) 1,768.80 / 100 L
d) 4,111.36 / 100 L
e) 9,264.99 / 100 ?
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$16,069.15
if you look to profit just 10 dollars a series chase you would need $1,606.92 bank roll to play through 'E' in the strategy & a lot is at risk. playing these straight up without a chase could give you less anxiety
best of luck hat and others looking to profit. the very best!
I was wondering how long it would take for someone to point this out! And although -220 might be on the high end it is fair to assume -180 to -200 range but regardless it's still a huge bankroll you need available to make this work and 99% of the people don't have a bankroll large enough to make it 3 games let alone 5 or 6 and even if their bankroll is large enough their book's max wager amount will cap them before they can make it a full series chase making impossible to ever survive this system! So, again, Jeff isn't as smart as he thinks he is and his "system" presents way too much risk for the reward. Jeff and others are quick to defend but those who are tailing blindly need to know all the facts before they get hurt really bad and trust me it's going to happen! And where will Jeff be and how will he answer his "sheep" when he loses 3 in a row and nobody can make the 4th chase bet because they don't have the resources or their book has a max wager amount that won't let them make it? I'm sure Jeff will pretend that he made the 4th wager and try to convince you that he has the bankroll or the "local" that allows him to do it! I'm not bashing Jeff I'm just helping to educate the innocent people who are tailing him blindly thinking they won't lose because Jeff boasts an "absurd" rate of winning! Well the fact is any "chase" will win 100% of the time if you chase long enough!
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Quote Originally Posted by KEV_BO:
if every play was -220 odds for +1.5 you would need $16,069.15 to chase those odds thru play E to win a hundred $ profit every series chase
a) $220 / to win $100 L 220 + 100 = 320.00 move dec 2 to the left [3.20 * 220] (for play B) = 704 vvv
b) 704 / to win 100 L 704 + 100 = " " " "
c) 1,768.80 / 100 L
d) 4,111.36 / 100 L
e) 9,264.99 / 100 ?
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------------------------------
$16,069.15
if you look to profit just 10 dollars a series chase you would need $1,606.92 bank roll to play through 'E' in the strategy & a lot is at risk. playing these straight up without a chase could give you less anxiety
best of luck hat and others looking to profit. the very best!
I was wondering how long it would take for someone to point this out! And although -220 might be on the high end it is fair to assume -180 to -200 range but regardless it's still a huge bankroll you need available to make this work and 99% of the people don't have a bankroll large enough to make it 3 games let alone 5 or 6 and even if their bankroll is large enough their book's max wager amount will cap them before they can make it a full series chase making impossible to ever survive this system! So, again, Jeff isn't as smart as he thinks he is and his "system" presents way too much risk for the reward. Jeff and others are quick to defend but those who are tailing blindly need to know all the facts before they get hurt really bad and trust me it's going to happen! And where will Jeff be and how will he answer his "sheep" when he loses 3 in a row and nobody can make the 4th chase bet because they don't have the resources or their book has a max wager amount that won't let them make it? I'm sure Jeff will pretend that he made the 4th wager and try to convince you that he has the bankroll or the "local" that allows him to do it! I'm not bashing Jeff I'm just helping to educate the innocent people who are tailing him blindly thinking they won't lose because Jeff boasts an "absurd" rate of winning! Well the fact is any "chase" will win 100% of the time if you chase long enough!
Why would he need to answer if someone loses 3 in a row ? You can't win them all and ONCE AGAIN , NO ONE IS HOLDING A GUN TO YOUR HEAD TO BET? If Someone ain't Saavy enough to do their own research and make an informed bet regardless of a system or not, Then you deserve to keep Donating your money to Las Vegas.
No one can convince me to make a bet but me ! Your 5 post before your last post shows us your a shill trying to convince people not to consider using or following this system / thread for your Unknown mysterious reasons... You either roll with it or you don't.
It's that Simple People.......... Ignoring anyone trying to convince you otherwise !
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Why would he need to answer if someone loses 3 in a row ? You can't win them all and ONCE AGAIN , NO ONE IS HOLDING A GUN TO YOUR HEAD TO BET? If Someone ain't Saavy enough to do their own research and make an informed bet regardless of a system or not, Then you deserve to keep Donating your money to Las Vegas.
No one can convince me to make a bet but me ! Your 5 post before your last post shows us your a shill trying to convince people not to consider using or following this system / thread for your Unknown mysterious reasons... You either roll with it or you don't.
It's that Simple People.......... Ignoring anyone trying to convince you otherwise !
Why would he need to answer if someone loses 3 in a row ? You can't win them all and ONCE AGAIN , NO ONE IS HOLDING A GUN TO YOUR HEAD TO BET? If Someone ain't Saavy enough to do their own research and make an informed bet regardless of a system or not, Then you deserve to keep Donating your money to Las Vegas.
No one can convince me to make a bet but me ! Your 5 post before your last post shows us your a shill trying to convince people not to consider using or following this system / thread for your Unknown mysterious reasons... You either roll with it or you don't.
It's that Simple People.......... Ignoring anyone trying to convince you otherwise !
You are sadly mistaken. My posts are not to sway people from using this system or any system for that matter but rather to make sure people understand the risks associated so that when they are broke they at least understand why. And although your comment about "someone being savvy" well if you consider yourself "savvy" then you are smart enough to understand that MOST bettors ARE NOT savvy!
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Quote Originally Posted by KingStreet99:
Why would he need to answer if someone loses 3 in a row ? You can't win them all and ONCE AGAIN , NO ONE IS HOLDING A GUN TO YOUR HEAD TO BET? If Someone ain't Saavy enough to do their own research and make an informed bet regardless of a system or not, Then you deserve to keep Donating your money to Las Vegas.
No one can convince me to make a bet but me ! Your 5 post before your last post shows us your a shill trying to convince people not to consider using or following this system / thread for your Unknown mysterious reasons... You either roll with it or you don't.
It's that Simple People.......... Ignoring anyone trying to convince you otherwise !
You are sadly mistaken. My posts are not to sway people from using this system or any system for that matter but rather to make sure people understand the risks associated so that when they are broke they at least understand why. And although your comment about "someone being savvy" well if you consider yourself "savvy" then you are smart enough to understand that MOST bettors ARE NOT savvy!
You are sadly mistaken. My posts are not to sway people from using this system or any system for that matter but rather to make sure people understand the risks associated so that when they are broke they at least understand why. And although your comment about "someone being savvy" well if you consider yourself "savvy" then you are smart enough to understand that MOST bettors ARE NOT savvy!
No doubt most bettors are not Savvy, And people go broke because they don't understand money management, nor do they understand most people bet on impulses, emotions, bias and follow the crowd. When people bet on any given day, they should understand their goals for that day ? How much do they have to invest ? How much are you trying to make ? What sports to play ? Do i take the ML, RL, Spread or Total. There is too much $$$ on one side , should i bet opposite ?
No System is flawless. Any bet is 50/50
You and all the others i notice trying to discourage people from looking into A FREE SYSTEM, FREE ADVICE has me curious .
If your trying to stop people from going broke, Then tell them NOT TO BET ?
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Quote Originally Posted by bobmackey:
You are sadly mistaken. My posts are not to sway people from using this system or any system for that matter but rather to make sure people understand the risks associated so that when they are broke they at least understand why. And although your comment about "someone being savvy" well if you consider yourself "savvy" then you are smart enough to understand that MOST bettors ARE NOT savvy!
No doubt most bettors are not Savvy, And people go broke because they don't understand money management, nor do they understand most people bet on impulses, emotions, bias and follow the crowd. When people bet on any given day, they should understand their goals for that day ? How much do they have to invest ? How much are you trying to make ? What sports to play ? Do i take the ML, RL, Spread or Total. There is too much $$$ on one side , should i bet opposite ?
No System is flawless. Any bet is 50/50
You and all the others i notice trying to discourage people from looking into A FREE SYSTEM, FREE ADVICE has me curious .
If your trying to stop people from going broke, Then tell them NOT TO BET ?
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