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Posted: #851
Quote Originally Posted by BarstoolProphet:


Wow, I just knew it, WarEagle, you would come at me with a few degrees of smoke. Now he has combined his systems with jeffs systems a few car systems and some music systems, Or what ever in the hell you want to add to it.  every argument that I have made in here have  ONLY been about this system ,,,,,nothing more. Dont add crap to this.

And Like I said before these guys do not count losses, or even understand risk....here we have a guy not only not counting his losses,,,hell he has counted wins before they even happened. OMG
I can not make this sh7t up. lolDude I totally have like 4 chases open right now. But I have banked them already , no worries.

I am crying here, I am only talking about this system , the one Jeff was selling long before it even made it to the shelves. 

On this system only, it will not give you enough wins even with expected percentages,,,,it will only take 1 loss at this rate to destroy a bankroll. Do you want to take that chance?




I love it.  Every time you post, you show you lack of intelligence even more.

Why do you have to assume people are only playing Jeff's systems?  Why do you find it so difficult to believe that people play other chase systems?

You are blasting away at chase systems in general, whether it is Jeff's or not.  And it is because you obviously don't understand them.  I have even posted other chase systems that I play on the Systems and Strategies Forum.  But, I know you are not intelligent enough to do any research before you start spouting off your BS.

Who said anything about banking anything?  I just stated what I am currently up YTD and what I expect to make.  Does that mean that it is a guarantee?  Hell no, but it is a logical estimate based on years of both backtesting and actual results.  If I am playing a successful chase system , then I will continue to bet it.  As soon as a chase system loses 40 units, I abandon that system for the remainder of the season.  I started this season with 12 systems and have already abandoned 4 of them for various reasons.  And I am STILL up 148.3 units on the year (not counting open chases).  For you to state that I do not understand risk, shows what an absolute moron you are.  I have ACCOUNTED for risk and EXPECT to lose some chases.  When I lose a chase, I will lose anywhere from 4 units to 36 units per loss, depending on the system.  But I don't expect you to understand because you are simply just not intelligent enough.

And I KNEW you were not "through with me" as you stated before.  I called you out on a lie BEFORE you even responded back to me because I knew what an idiot I'm dealing with.  Even though you were called out, you still couldn't help yourself.


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Quote Originally Posted by nghia1973:


You are the idiot, the point Barstool made was that this will hit a loss, and since this is a 6 game chase, he is stating the 6 game loss.  You then say what if he only doing the 4 game.  WTF?  Yeah what about if he only play 4 game.  That still a loss.  

Please tell me you are just yanking my chain.  You really can't be that lost can you.  I have stated MULTIPLE times that I EXPECT losses because I play multiple systems (8 currently).  Why are you so hung up on whether or not a chase is a loss?  I have already stated that I EXPECT to lose some chases playing a 4 game chase.  What do you not understand about that?  Where did I ever say that I would not lose a chase?  Please provide that link and I will drop this subject.  Since you will be unable to do such, then you should try to reread what I have posted and it may begin to make sense.

I brought up the other systems because Barstool is hung up on the number of plays of Jeff's systems.  I pointed out that Jeff's system is just 1 of 8 that I am currently playing.  I don't give a damn how many play Jeff provides.  I will have over 1000 plays even if Jeff only provides 200 plays.

Idiots keep stating things such as "Just wait until you have one loss and lose your bankroll".  That is just ignorant ranting from morons.  Do you really think that I will lose my $4000 bankroll playing $10 units if I lose ONE chase?  Do you really?  Because that type stuff if what morons keep posting.  I pointed out my 188-3 record (not to brag because I got all of my ideas from others) to show that I have already had THREE chase losses and am still UP $1,300+...bankroll is currently at $5,321.12.  Not sure where the "just wait until you have a loss and you will lose everything" mentality is coming from, but it couldn't be more wrong.
 
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Posted: #853
Jeff, don't let these trolls wear you down.  They ain't got nothing to match you.  Make no mistake about that.  Wantabes all.  You're the real deal, dude.
 
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Posted: #854
Quote Originally Posted by flwareagle:


Please tell me you are just yanking my chain.  You really can't be that lost can you.  I have stated MULTIPLE times that I EXPECT losses because I play multiple systems (8 currently).  Why are you so hung up on whether or not a chase is a loss?  I have already stated that I EXPECT to lose some chases playing a 4 game chase.  What do you not understand about that?  Where did I ever say that I would not lose a chase?  Please provide that link and I will drop this subject.  Since you will be unable to do such, then you should try to reread what I have posted and it may begin to make sense.

I brought up the other systems because Barstool is hung up on the number of plays of Jeff's systems.  I pointed out that Jeff's system is just 1 of 8 that I am currently playing.  I don't give a damn how many play Jeff provides.  I will have over 1000 plays even if Jeff only provides 200 plays.

Idiots keep stating things such as "Just wait until you have one loss and lose your bankroll".  That is just ignorant ranting from morons.  Do you really think that I will lose my $4000 bankroll playing $10 units if I lose ONE chase?  Do you really?  Because that type stuff if what morons keep posting.  I pointed out my 188-3 record (not to brag because I got all of my ideas from others) to show that I have already had THREE chase losses and am still UP $1,300+...bankroll is currently at $5,321.12.  Not sure where the "just wait until you have a loss and you will lose everything" mentality is coming from, but it couldn't be more wrong.

Read post 806
Then 812 (This is the one you girl on about)
Obviously post 806 is about this system(Jeff).  With the amount of plays that is currently being posted, you don't think a 6 game lost will put you into a garbage hole?  Again, not talking about YOUR 8 systems you are playing.  Post 806 is about THIS system.
 
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Posted: #855
Quote Originally Posted by nghia1973:


Read post 806
Then 812 (This is the one you girl on about)
Obviously post 806 is about this system(Jeff).  With the amount of plays that is currently being posted, you don't think a 6 game lost will put you into a garbage hole?  Again, not talking about YOUR 8 systems you are playing.  Post 806 is about THIS system.

Okay, little girl.  Show me where in post 806 that the poster states that he is playing a 6 game chase.  All he was talking about was how much he had won.

Then go read my response where I asked him about the 6 game issue.  He never stated that he was playing a 6 game chase.  Many people on both of his GSE threads have stated that they are playing 4 game chases, followed by a 2 game chase if the 4 game chase loses and others have stated that they are playing a labby system.  Why are you so close minded that you can't see that people can take Jeff's (or anyone else's) picks and bet them in numerous different ways?  Seriously, why?

If you can't see the relevance of my posts in response to his predicted obvious drivel, then it will show the mindset and mentality I am dealing.
 
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Posted: #856
its funny people cry for good picks, this guy posts his method that wins for him and people still bash...you have a few options, either backcheck it yourself then complain, or dont play it
 
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Posted: #857
Quote Originally Posted by markp851:

its funny people cry for good picks, this guy posts his method that wins for him and people still bash...you have a few options, either backcheck it yourself then complain, or dont play it

 I know, it's ridiculous isn't it.  Jeff hasn't asked for one penny and has provided several systems where he provided the parameters on the Systems and Strategies forums that have been very successful.  I just don't get all of the haters.
 
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Posted: #858
Quote Originally Posted by JEFFTHEHAT:


No, resumes on Friday 


Jeff, one question for you please

Why the skip in the system on Det tomorrow and the resume on Fri. Is this because Porcello was the orig intended pitcher or does it have to do with something else in the system that I don't even need to concern myself with.

THANK YOU for your time and dedication, looking forward to a profitable season!!! HAT Rules!
 
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Posted: #859
Quote Originally Posted by flwareagle:


Okay, little girl.  Show me where in post 806 that the poster states that he is playing a 6 game chase.  All he was talking about was how much he had won.

Then go read my response where I asked him about the 6 game issue.  He never stated that he was playing a 6 game chase.  Many people on both of his GSE threads have stated that they are playing 4 game chases, followed by a 2 game chase if the 4 game chase loses and others have stated that they are playing a labby system.  Why are you so close minded that you can't see that people can take Jeff's (or anyone else's) picks and bet them in numerous different ways?  Seriously, why?

If you can't see the relevance of my posts in response to his predicted obvious drivel, then it will show the mindset and mentality I am dealing.

Ok smart azz.  Show me where he is not playing the 6 game just like the system is intended for.
Now for the 4 game chase, then followed by the 2 game chase.  If this system did end up with 1 loss, you still don't think the 4-2 format loses?  You lost the 1st 4 game, then the next two loses also.  You might lose less, but still loses.
It's ok child, I'm really done with you.  Good luck on betting your 8 system.  Make sure you only bet $10 a unit ok, otherwise you will fcuk up your bankroll.  I'll leave you alone from now on so you can try to win more.  Just saw the score to the Angels game.  
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Posted: #860
Quote Originally Posted by nghia1973:


Ok smart azz.  Show me where he is not playing the 6 game just like the system is intended for.
Now for the 4 game chase, then followed by the 2 game chase.  If this system did end up with 1 loss, you still don't think the 4-2 format loses?  You lost the 1st 4 game, then the next two loses also.  You might lose less, but still loses.
It's ok child, I'm really done with you.  Good luck on betting your 8 system.  Make sure you only bet $10 a unit ok, otherwise you will fcuk up your bankroll.  I'll leave you alone from now on so you can try to win more.  Just saw the score to the Angels game.  
I'm happy 

Yes, it is obvious you are that friggin stupid.  First, I'll play your game.  Show me where he said he WAS playing a 6 game chase.  You can't because he hasn't said that.  You do realize that Jeff's system on here is 21-0 and not one chase has gone beyond the C level (3 games).  Again, as stated before (I realize you don't let facts get in the way of your opinion), many, many people on here will NOT end up playing a full 6 game chase if one goes that far.  I know personally I have read that several people on both of Jeff's GSE threads have stated they are playing the 4 game chases, labby lines, etc...(I know you don't understand what that means, but I put it here for the adults that may be reading).

Now let me explain to your feeble little mind the 4 game, 2 game chase system.  Let's just assume we played Jeff's system that went 765-0 last year according to his back test (whether or not there will be that many plays this year is irrelevant...it could be 500 plays or 800 plays...again irrelevant).  Back to Jeff's 6 game system last year.  If you saw his breakdown, only 9 chases out of his 765 went beyond a 4th game.  That would mean that a 4 game chase last year would have gone 756-9.  Comprehend?  At an average loss of 36 units per chase loss, it would come to 36x9=324 units LOST.  However, there would have been 756 units WON.  756-324 units=+432 units on the year.  Did you see that????  You would have WON 432 units on the year playing a FOUR, yes FOUR game chase (this is America...no one is forced to play a 6 game chase).  That is with 9...NINE LOSSES (Man, look what a hit NINE...yes NINE chase losses would have done to the bankroll...you would be UP 432 units on the season).  As far as the 2 game chase after a 4 game chase loss, it is just another way of picking up an additional 9 units to bring the season's total to 441 UNITS...see that....441 UNITS.

Does any of this make any sense to you at all?  Because, if it doesn't, that is sad.

It doesn't matter how many play's Jeff provides.  If you play all of his systems, you will probably have over 750 plays with minimal losses playing no more than 4 game chases.

People like you can bury your head in the sand, while people like me will try to have a profit for the fifth season in row (I have never posted back to back winning seasons before I started playing chases over 4 year ago since I ABSOLUTELY SUCK  at handicapping.

Look, it is just a chance for some people to "beat the books".  I will admit that I laughed at my buddy in 2009 when he told me about his baseball systems and gave him hell for months.  Finally, I noticed his bankroll was constantly growing while my fluctuated between low and gone.  I sat down with him and he showed me his philosophy and I have never looked backed.  I am not getting rich, but do enjoy the steady stream of profits from baseball season.  I have made a lot of mistakes learning how to play chases and still do.  Despite those, I have still profited, although have yet to maximize a season's profits.  I hope to this season.

Good, solid money management and a few good, sound chase systems can be very profitable.  Seriously, you should look more into it.
 
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Posted: #861
And I will make sure I only bet my $10 units.....until my original bankroll of $4000 (which is all I can afford) becomes $6000.  My units will then be $12 (I will increase the units $2 every $2000 in profits).  If my original bankroll (which is currently at $5,321.12) drops to $3000, then my units would drop to $8 ( I decrease the units $2 every $1000 in losses).

That is how someone like me that doesn't understand risk and money management handles my bankroll.
 
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Posted: #862
Quote Originally Posted by nghia1973:


Read post 806
Then 812 (This is the one you girl on about)
you don't think a 6 game lost will put you into a garbage hole?  Again, not talking about YOUR 8 systems you are playing.  Post 806 is about THIS system.

UUUhhhhhh.....yyyyeeeeaaaaa.....that is exactly the reason for playing a 4 game chase as opposed to the 6 game chase you insist MUST be played that will put you into a garbage hole.  We were not talking about MY 8 systems, I was pointing out that Jeff's system is not the only one out there.  There are many very good ones.  If you play several (with an adequate bankroll), you should easily get 700-1000 chase potentials.  If you are worried about losing a chase and being in a garbage hole, then you are incredibly unprepared to play a chase system.  You are obviously betting way too big of a unit and that will bite you in the behind big time (trust me, I know from experience).

Rather than firing back and arguing about this, you really should take a little time to read and absorb a lot of what has been posted in this thread (not just me, but several others).  If you are actually playing the system, then why the hate from you and BarSTOOL?  I just don't get it.  I really don't care if you choose to try to understand it or choose to remain in the dark.  That is absolutely your choice.

So many people say you can't win betting chase systems.  Well, that is true...to a degree.  I would guesstimate that 95% or more of chase system bettors LOSE.  I would also guesstimate that 95% or more of FLAT bettors LOSE.  The problem with almost all of them is the lack of money management.

Discipline, adequate bankroll (I started with enough to cover over TEN series losses) and money management and the three main attributes that the 5% possess.  I have been part of the 95% most of my life.  I feel like I am on the verge of joining the 5% the way I am currently going.

 
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Posted: #863
Quote Originally Posted by BarstoolProphet:

 
You are telling me that I have holes in my logic.......


And as for wareagles logic with his 4 game chase. I want to see what he has to say when Det loses 2 more in a row. And is tagged for a 25 to 30 unit lose.

I am sure he will try to throw 6 degrees of smoke my way , on how he libby labbied it or didnt catch a certain line. Or he played it on the runline.or hell who knows, I am sure it will be masterful.

I hope for the sake of math and everything that is holy...

that I am dead azz wrong.


If you are truly betting this system that you KNOW can't win, then this conversation is over because you have just retired the crown as the GREATEST C HUMP IN THE LAND!  Wow, it is absolutely unbelievable anyone would bet one dime on something they KNOW can't win.  Again....wow?

As for your other BS, you obviously can't read.  If DET loses two more games, then I will lose approximately 33.8 units on my chase.  Why would I give you a smoke screen about a loss?  Why would you even make up such BS?  I have already stated in multiple posts that I EXPECT losses in all of the chase systems I play and plan my bankroll accordingly.  I am smart enough not to bet on something that I KNOW will lose and also have an adequate bankroll to let the systems play themselves out and not have to worry and whine about a possible loss....oh poor pitiful us if we lose a game.

And quit this BS that Jeff HAS to provide 750 plays.  I don't care if he provides 200 plays.  I will have over a 1000 plays this season.  I don't need Jeff to provide me with 750 plays to hit my goals.  If Jeff provides over 500 plays, then that will be beyond my expectations and I will be happy with it....WIN OR LOSE.
 
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Posted: #864
just stop wasting your time flwareagle,it is 100% clear that barstool and nghia simply arent very bright at all......very,very,very simple concepts have been explained to them in a very,very,very simple,transparent,understandable manner and yet all they can manage to do is keep coming back in the place screaming-"OH,WAT ARE YA GONNA DO IF YOU LOSE A SERIES??!!!!WAT ARE YA GONNA DO IF YA LOSE A SERIES??!!!YOU GONNA GET BURIED!!!!!"........that tells you all ya need to know about these individuals.

wat kind of mouth-breathing spastic can only see the potential for a loss but at the same time completely ignore the potential winners out-weighing it that are evident in the exact same results??
my brain hurts just thinking about how the brains of those dudes work
 
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Posted: #865
Jeff....move your picks to Twitter and protect your account. Simple as that. Fvckin adolescent nonsence on here.
 
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Quote Originally Posted by bbreit:

Jeff....move your picks to Twitter and protect your account. Simple as that. Fvckin adolescent nonsence on here.

Jeff loves this garbage...or he would take other measures...you guys are hilarious.

Pure entertainment here.
 
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Jeff loves this garbage...or he would take other measures...you guys are hilarious.

Pure entertainment here.

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Quote Originally Posted by oilcountry99:


Jeff loves this garbage...or he would take other measures...you guys are hilarious.

Pure entertainment here.

Couldn't be farther from the truth, I have taken other measures. Just nobody apparently realizes it. 
 
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IDIOTS COMPLAINING ABOUT AN U DEFEATED SYSTEM ....SMH...
 
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Jeff
U r the man bro
Friend request pls
 
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what people don't seem to realize, chase system or not, is that Jeff is one helluva handicapper. I don't play the chase, I just play his picks straight up and have been winning

also, a 6 game chase is mathematically optimum I think
 
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what cracks me up the most is that these EXACT same conversations about 'youre gonna get buried by a full loss!" or "too much juice!" or "how many years back without a loss?!" have been asked every single damn day since at least halfway through the NHL regular season where Jeff debuted his system. It says a lot that he hasnt absolutely lost his mind with some of the kids around here.
 
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can i get a PM,jeff please??
 
 
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Jeff,
  What's going on?  Are you going to post the plays for today?  Did I miss the post or something?  Thanks!
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