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    K4ngur13
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    Posted: Mar. 4, 2010 - 8:30 AM ET #26

    Quote Originally Posted by WallyBalls:

    If you guys have some tout services that produce winners then thats great, but I know someone who's been working the phones for tout services here in Vegas for years and by his accounts they are total frauds. They get you on the phone looking to buy a $25 "play of the day" but then try to sell you on more expensive, better packages. And there is no set price they are working with, if they tell you it's a $1000 package and you insist you can't afford it, they'll drop the price until you can. If they hit a losing streak and a customer calls in asking what the F is going on here, they'll tell you the package you have is going bad but the "elite" package or whatever name they make up for it, is on a roll and if you'll just pay them a little more money then you can be in on that. They're basically just there to take the blame for your losses. They're trained to just listen to thier customers bitch at them when they give losing picks while at the same time making any promises to keep them coming back in the hopes of eventually winning big. The shitty part is the guy they talk into paying them $2500 is getting the same picks as the guy that only paid $150. It's all about getting the most money possible out of each person they talk to. There may be some good services out there but there are a big percentage that are nothing more than glorified telemarketers that are just trying to milk their customers out of every dollar they have to spend.


    I absolutely agree with you as the matter of fact I got caught in a service like that before I was using these guys.  They fcken milked me down do a cent.  I can give 2-3 services like that, that do this. Fckers

    And I also agree with you 100% there is only few legit services out there, and I am just glad to be on the right side.  Lucky to make great money with these guys.

    Thanks for the good information though. And Good Luck.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WallyBalls:

    If you guys have some tout services that produce winners then thats great, but I know someone who's been working the phones for tout services here in Vegas for years and by his accounts they are total frauds. They get you on the phone looking to buy a $25 "play of the day" but then try to sell you on more expensive, better packages. And there is no set price they are working with, if they tell you it's a $1000 package and you insist you can't afford it, they'll drop the price until you can. If they hit a losing streak and a customer calls in asking what the F is going on here, they'll tell you the package you have is going bad but the "elite" package or whatever name they make up for it, is on a roll and if you'll just pay them a little more money then you can be in on that. They're basically just there to take the blame for your losses. They're trained to just listen to thier customers bitch at them when they give losing picks while at the same time making any promises to keep them coming back in the hopes of eventually winning big. The shitty part is the guy they talk into paying them $2500 is getting the same picks as the guy that only paid $150. It's all about getting the most money possible out of each person they talk to. There may be some good services out there but there are a big percentage that are nothing more than glorified telemarketers that are just trying to milk their customers out of every dollar they have to spend.


    I absolutely agree with you as the matter of fact I got caught in a service like that before I was using these guys.  They fcken milked me down do a cent.  I can give 2-3 services like that, that do this. Fckers

    And I also agree with you 100% there is only few legit services out there, and I am just glad to be on the right side.  Lucky to make great money with these guys.

    Thanks for the good information though. And Good Luck.
     
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    Posted: Mar. 5, 2010 - 12:24 AM ET #27

    Hey K4ngur13 and S_A_I_N_T_S

    Just going to send you both PMs for more info

    Hope you don't mind

    Thanks

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    Hey K4ngur13 and S_A_I_N_T_S

    Just going to send you both PMs for more info

    Hope you don't mind

    Thanks

     
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    Posted: Mar. 5, 2010 - 12:31 AM ET #28

    I guess they are actually friends requests first aren't they.....lol
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    I guess they are actually friends requests first aren't they.....lol
     
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    Posted: Mar. 7, 2010 - 9:04 PM ET #29

    Crazy question but why doesn't anyone start a "legit" tout service?

    By legit I mean maybe pay a smaller fee for the picks and get refunded if it doesn't win? Something like that. I see so much of this 10 star/play of the decade/over the top used car salesman stuff its nauseating (no offense to used car salesmen).

    I would hope that most bettors understand that the best in the world aren't actually going to do better than 55% or so over a long period so if they were only charging when the pick wins and they were giving good honest service why wouldn't a lot of bettors go for something like that?

    Seems like a better value to the customers and still a big enough market for the business to make money.
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    Crazy question but why doesn't anyone start a "legit" tout service?

    By legit I mean maybe pay a smaller fee for the picks and get refunded if it doesn't win? Something like that. I see so much of this 10 star/play of the decade/over the top used car salesman stuff its nauseating (no offense to used car salesmen).

    I would hope that most bettors understand that the best in the world aren't actually going to do better than 55% or so over a long period so if they were only charging when the pick wins and they were giving good honest service why wouldn't a lot of bettors go for something like that?

    Seems like a better value to the customers and still a big enough market for the business to make money.
     
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    Posted: Mar. 10, 2010 - 2:13 AM ET #30

    Hi Krush181,

    Have you heard of Tony Cross from www.breakingvegas101.com?  He has a 3-tier sports betting system, which each tier consists of three games with buying +3 points in the NBA and 1- 1 1/2 point in the NHL.  Even though the juices are high(-170), he has a very impressive winning records and small amount of profits.  I want to hear your opinion about this system;  I admire your opinion, hard work, and integrity...keep up the good work!!!

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    Hi Krush181,

    Have you heard of Tony Cross from www.breakingvegas101.com?  He has a 3-tier sports betting system, which each tier consists of three games with buying +3 points in the NBA and 1- 1 1/2 point in the NHL.  Even though the juices are high(-170), he has a very impressive winning records and small amount of profits.  I want to hear your opinion about this system;  I admire your opinion, hard work, and integrity...keep up the good work!!!

     
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    Posted: Mar. 10, 2010 - 2:16 AM ET #31

    Krush181,

    Please do send me all information regarding to legit services; better yet, can I follow you? Keep up the good work;  I admire your dedication and  hard work, especially your truthfulness!!

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    Krush181,

    Please do send me all information regarding to legit services; better yet, can I follow you? Keep up the good work;  I admire your dedication and  hard work, especially your truthfulness!!

     
    easyrider
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    Posted: Mar. 10, 2010 - 2:24 AM ET #32

    k4ngurl13,

    Please tell me the service(s) that you are using;  I am interested getting some information...thanks...keep up the good work~~

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    k4ngurl13,

    Please tell me the service(s) that you are using;  I am interested getting some information...thanks...keep up the good work~~

     
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    Posted: Mar. 10, 2010 - 11:12 PM ET #33

    Quote Originally Posted by easyrider:

    k4ngurl13,

    Please tell me the service(s) that you are using;  I am interested getting some information...thanks...keep up the good work~~



    PM me and I will give you the site.
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    Quote Originally Posted by easyrider:

    k4ngurl13,

    Please tell me the service(s) that you are using;  I am interested getting some information...thanks...keep up the good work~~



    PM me and I will give you the site.
     
    K4ngur13
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    Posted: Mar. 10, 2010 - 11:15 PM ET #34

    Quote Originally Posted by easyrider:

    Hi Krush181,

    Have you heard of Tony Cross from www.breakingvegas101.com?  He has a 3-tier sports betting system, which each tier consists of three games with buying +3 points in the NBA and 1- 1 1/2 point in the NHL.  Even though the juices are high(-170), he has a very impressive winning records and small amount of profits.  I want to hear your opinion about this system;  I admire your opinion, hard work, and integrity...keep up the good work!!!



    Dude, I know them.  They are awful.  But I am not going to get into that conversation, but I do know the system and over time is a guarantee loss of money. 

    If they would be any good they wouldn't make you buy 3 points lol (common sense).  Good luck though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by easyrider:

    Hi Krush181,

    Have you heard of Tony Cross from www.breakingvegas101.com?  He has a 3-tier sports betting system, which each tier consists of three games with buying +3 points in the NBA and 1- 1 1/2 point in the NHL.  Even though the juices are high(-170), he has a very impressive winning records and small amount of profits.  I want to hear your opinion about this system;  I admire your opinion, hard work, and integrity...keep up the good work!!!



    Dude, I know them.  They are awful.  But I am not going to get into that conversation, but I do know the system and over time is a guarantee loss of money. 

    If they would be any good they wouldn't make you buy 3 points lol (common sense).  Good luck though.

     
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    Posted: Mar. 13, 2010 - 9:39 PM ET #35

    I also have someone who wins anyone wants to pm me I will give details.
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    I also have someone who wins anyone wants to pm me I will give details.
     
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    Posted: Mar. 15, 2010 - 4:28 PM ET #36

    Hey K4ngur13,

    I sent you a friend request so i can pm you for the info on service that  you use. Thanks.
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    Hey K4ngur13,

    I sent you a friend request so i can pm you for the info on service that  you use. Thanks.
     
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    Posted: Mar. 17, 2010 - 11:31 PM ET #37


    Most do especially the well known services. However, I've had the same group for the past 15 months (since December 2008) and they've produced 14 winning and profitable months since I've been with them. 

    I call myself a 'lazy gambler' cuz I like to get an email, put in a play, and make money. I don't care how long it takes them to come up with the plays, it takes about 2 minutes of my day and I have NO STRESS. Can't beat that bro. If they continue to do well for me, I'll stay with them. If they fall off, I roll out. Simple as that.   

    I started with 10K and now my roll currently sits at $45,064.77 from opening my email. That may not be big money to many people, but it's great for me b/c I basically made this type of money in only 2 minutes per day. I sit back and chill. 

    Good Luck



    Saints

    Can I get that tout name that you use?

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    Most do especially the well known services. However, I've had the same group for the past 15 months (since December 2008) and they've produced 14 winning and profitable months since I've been with them. 

    I call myself a 'lazy gambler' cuz I like to get an email, put in a play, and make money. I don't care how long it takes them to come up with the plays, it takes about 2 minutes of my day and I have NO STRESS. Can't beat that bro. If they continue to do well for me, I'll stay with them. If they fall off, I roll out. Simple as that.   

    I started with 10K and now my roll currently sits at $45,064.77 from opening my email. That may not be big money to many people, but it's great for me b/c I basically made this type of money in only 2 minutes per day. I sit back and chill. 

    Good Luck



    Saints

    Can I get that tout name that you use?

     
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    Posted: Mar. 19, 2010 - 7:04 AM ET #38

    k4 and saints- just sent a friend request to see if i could get that group info as well. 
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    k4 and saints- just sent a friend request to see if i could get that group info as well. 
     
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    Posted: Mar. 19, 2010 - 10:13 PM ET #39

    any one at all know the service name?
    If you could pass it on to
    dbradd_98@yahoo.com
    I would greatly appreciate the info.
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    any one at all know the service name?
    If you could pass it on to
    dbradd_98@yahoo.com
    I would greatly appreciate the info.
     
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    Posted: Mar. 24, 2010 - 10:12 PM ET #40

    They can't lose a game ... wow!  Hope all of you are making some serious money ... Cuz this is as easy as it gets ...
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    They can't lose a game ... wow!  Hope all of you are making some serious money ... Cuz this is as easy as it gets ...
     
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    Posted: Mar. 25, 2010 - 1:14 PM ET #41

    Who do you use k4ngur13? Mind PMing me?
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    Who do you use k4ngur13? Mind PMing me?
     
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    Posted: Mar. 25, 2010 - 5:33 PM ET #42

    Quote Originally Posted by K4ngur13:

    I DISAGREE I KNOW ONE OF TWO FIRMS WHO ARE INCREDIBLE, BEEN WITH THEM FOR YEARS AND I AM CURRENTLY MAKING LIVING OFF FROM THEIR PICKS.

    SO I GUESS IT DEPENDS WHO YOU ARE USING.


    GOOD LUCK

     

    ya sure you are

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    Quote Originally Posted by K4ngur13:

    I DISAGREE I KNOW ONE OF TWO FIRMS WHO ARE INCREDIBLE, BEEN WITH THEM FOR YEARS AND I AM CURRENTLY MAKING LIVING OFF FROM THEIR PICKS.

    SO I GUESS IT DEPENDS WHO YOU ARE USING.


    GOOD LUCK

     

    ya sure you are

     
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    Posted: Mar. 28, 2010 - 8:26 PM ET #43

    Try these guys sincitysharps.com tey are in Las Vegas winners daily and they do not gaugeyou! Very fair and they answer the phone ifthey lose which isnt often. sincitysharps.com 
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    Try these guys sincitysharps.com tey are in Las Vegas winners daily and they do not gaugeyou! Very fair and they answer the phone ifthey lose which isnt often. sincitysharps.com 
     
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    Posted: Mar. 28, 2010 - 8:43 PM ET #44

    That's why you fade!  There is no discussing or arguing or whatever.  Just fade.
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    That's why you fade!  There is no discussing or arguing or whatever.  Just fade.
     
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    Posted: Mar. 28, 2010 - 9:59 PM ET #45

    Quote Originally Posted by thebird40:

    Try these guys sincitysharps.com tey are in Las Vegas winners daily and they do not gaugeyou! Very fair and they answer the phone ifthey lose which isnt often. sincitysharps.com 


    You better get some extra customer service support buddy
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    Quote Originally Posted by thebird40:

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    JohnnyY83
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    Posted: Mar. 28, 2010 - 11:17 PM ET #46

    To all you guys who say you have someone who picks winners.

    Every one of you is saying this to scam the naive guys in this thread.

    EVERY ONE OF YOU.

    I know you are lying 100%. But prove me wrong, post picks here for 2 weeks and we will see if you win. Post the picks one minute after the game has started so we can not profit from the picks. You can just prove to us you are the real deal.

    I KNOW NONE OF YOU WILL DO THIS

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    To all you guys who say you have someone who picks winners.

    Every one of you is saying this to scam the naive guys in this thread.

    EVERY ONE OF YOU.

    I know you are lying 100%. But prove me wrong, post picks here for 2 weeks and we will see if you win. Post the picks one minute after the game has started so we can not profit from the picks. You can just prove to us you are the real deal.

    I KNOW NONE OF YOU WILL DO THIS

     
    LapdanceJockey
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    Posted: Mar. 28, 2010 - 11:53 PM ET #47

    Quote Originally Posted by JohnnyY83:

    To all you guys who say you have someone who picks winners.

    Every one of you is saying this to scam the naive guys in this thread.

    EVERY ONE OF YOU.

    I know you are lying 100%. But prove me wrong, post picks here for 2 weeks and we will see if you win. Post the picks one minute after the game has started so we can not profit from the picks. You can just prove to us you are the real deal.

    I KNOW NONE OF YOU WILL DO THIS

     

     

     

    Reply
    Quote Originally Posted by JohnnyY83:

    To all you guys who say you have someone who picks winners.

    Every one of you is saying this to scam the naive guys in this thread.

    EVERY ONE OF YOU.

    I know you are lying 100%. But prove me wrong, post picks here for 2 weeks and we will see if you win. Post the picks one minute after the game has started so we can not profit from the picks. You can just prove to us you are the real deal.

    I KNOW NONE OF YOU WILL DO THIS

     

     

     

     
    JohnnyY83
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    Posted: Mar. 29, 2010 - 3:39 PM ET #48

    Quote Originally Posted by LapdanceJockey:

     

     

     


    Silence is very telling isn't it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by LapdanceJockey:

     

     

     


    Silence is very telling isn't it?
     
    K4ngur13
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    Posted: Mar. 29, 2010 - 11:04 PM ET #49

    Quote Originally Posted by JohnnyY83:

    To all you guys who say you have someone who picks winners.

    Every one of you is saying this to scam the naive guys in this thread.

    EVERY ONE OF YOU.

    I know you are lying 100%. But prove me wrong, post picks here for 2 weeks and we will see if you win. Post the picks one minute after the game has started so we can not profit from the picks. You can just prove to us you are the real deal.

    I KNOW NONE OF YOU WILL DO THIS



    First of all what the hell do I care whether you join  the service or not?

    Second, when I get around I will post the picks ... whether you profit or not ... I care less ... but I will definitely not waste my time in a thread

    I will try to do this for one week ...
    Reply
    Quote Originally Posted by JohnnyY83:

    To all you guys who say you have someone who picks winners.

    Every one of you is saying this to scam the naive guys in this thread.

    EVERY ONE OF YOU.

    I know you are lying 100%. But prove me wrong, post picks here for 2 weeks and we will see if you win. Post the picks one minute after the game has started so we can not profit from the picks. You can just prove to us you are the real deal.

    I KNOW NONE OF YOU WILL DO THIS



    First of all what the hell do I care whether you join  the service or not?

    Second, when I get around I will post the picks ... whether you profit or not ... I care less ... but I will definitely not waste my time in a thread

    I will try to do this for one week ...
     
     
    K4ngur13
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    Posted: Mar. 29, 2010 - 11:16 PM ET #50

    I will do my best to post everything, but I also don't want to risk loosing my membership So I will post picks after the game starts.  See you tomorrow then


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    I will do my best to post everything, but I also don't want to risk loosing my membership So I will post picks after the game starts.  See you tomorrow then


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