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Quote Originally Posted by walktheline:

The Nevada State Athletic Commission will have this style of testing mandatory withing the next couple of years. The World Anti-Doping Agency will push for it and it will be done. In fact, it should have been done a long time ago.



You know what, you are totally on to something.  I mean, look at all the major professional sports that are jumping on this.
 
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Manny is the hottest property in boxing, PBF needs him more than Manny needs the ballerina. The Pacquaio position is and was reasonable, PBF can shut the hell up.
 
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Quote Originally Posted by esplanade:

Manny is the hottest property in boxing, PBF needs him more than Manny needs the ballerina. The Pacquaio position is and was reasonable, PBF can shut the hell up.



I agree, Floyd doesn't need him for the money, but to legitimize his legacy.  Even he knows people recognize him as a ducker.
 
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And to the dopes who think I just am knocking Floyd.  IF you really pretend to be boxing knowledgeable, realize this is the same guy who just said he was the best ever.   Also, the same punk who talked smack about ALI directly.  You defend that, just try.  This "MONEY" boy couldn't hold his own urine if he was in Ali's walk of life.  But I guess that is why all the punks of today flock to him.  But I digress.............
 
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Quote Originally Posted by mpeiu81:




You know what, you are totally on to something.  I mean, look at all the major professional sports that are jumping on this.



So true.

People want to "fix" the testing in boxing after hearing the words of a former crackhead making these baseless accusations. Little do they know that he only did that because he can never live with the fact that Roach is a better trainer than he will ever be.

All this BS because of a jealous former crackhead.

And people fall for for it hook, line & sinker.
 
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Quote Originally Posted by mpeiu81:




You know what, you are totally on to something.  I mean, look at all the major professional sports that are jumping on this.

Yeah, look at them:

https://sports.espn.go.com/espn/news/story?id=3190548
 
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Floyd is a fraud. He came up with this shit so he could get out of the fight without it looking like he was the guy ducking the fight.



 
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Quote Originally Posted by walktheline:


Yeah, look at them:

https://sports.espn.go.com/espn/news/story?id=3190548

Dude. That article is over 2 years old. They sure have taken steps

The union will never agree to those tests.
 
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Quote Originally Posted by NJDevils:

Floyd is a fraud. He came up with this shit so he could get out of the fight without it looking like he was the guy ducking the fight.




Fuck Floyd. He had jelly legs for a minute and a half from the first rock solid shot he took in his career. Manny probably lands that punch and finishes regardless of his body chemistry.

Fuck Manny too. His bullshit smile and play dumb when he is pumped full of shit makes me sick too. I just hope they beat the hell out of each other. 
 
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and they have already won cause we are arguing.
 
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I don't understand why anyone would not support the testing in these types of athletics for the sake of a fair competition. 

Morally I have no problem with ANYONE doing PED's. It would be nice if PED's would be regulated and understood so that they could hit a ball 600 feet. Why the hell should I care? It's entertainment. 


 
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Quote Originally Posted by walktheline:

I don't understand why anyone would not support the testing in these types of athletics for the sake of a fair competition. 

Morally I have no problem with ANYONE doing PED's. It would be nice if PED's would be regulated and understood so that they could hit a ball 600 feet. Why the hell should I care? It's entertainment. 




Walk, I think we are close to the same page but u just aren't understanding the problem with taking blood within 24 hours before the fight.  That is the issue and Floyd worked this to his advantage. Just think about it for a little.
 
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Whoops. Nevermind. I thought Manny said was willing to compromise to 24 hours.

Manny is going to have to come up with a better compromise than 24 days.

Either that or just wait until Floyd is broke again.
 
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Dude, MARNY, he was willing to give blood right after the fight and I believe up to 2 weeks before.  Just not right before, which is dumb and Floyd new he wouldn't have to wither because Manny wouldn't accept this.   I give up.  They are rich, I quit trying to explain
 
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Quote Originally Posted by marnypoly:

Manny already said after tonight's fight that he'd agree to any test as long as it's 24 hours before the fight.

This is all a waste of time but that sounds reasonable to me.

Thats not true at all. Post the source.
 
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Quote Originally Posted by mpeiu81:

Dude, MARNY, he was willing to give blood right after the fight and I believe up to 2 weeks before.  Just not right before, which is dumb and Floyd new he wouldn't have to wither because Manny wouldn't accept this.   I give up.  They are rich, I quit trying to explain


He is saying he'll take blood tests up to 24 days before the fight, which is the same position his team took in the previous negotiation. Without having any specific knowledge, it sure seems to me like 24 days would be long enough to get back on the juice.
 
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In my mind it's 90% on pacquiao how can you say that getting blood drawn 2 weeks before a fight is going to drain you and effect your skill, thats bs. the guy has tattoos for christ sake he cant be that scared of needles and floyd is more than willing to do the same testing. it doesnt seem like an unreasonable request in order to make the biggest fight boxing has seen in a long time. it all points to manny juicing to me, if not maybe hes the one ducking floyd and not the other way around. is asking that a guy who moved up 4 weight classes and is now in his 30s with more power than ever has to get some blood drawn 14 days before the fight really so unreasonable that people are saying floyd is ducking him? that is ridiculous make the fight happen. i think the extra 10 days manny wants seems to make a lot more sense as extra time to juice than it does extra time to recover from the needle. thats just my take, i pray that they make it happen though cuz it would be an amazing fight
 
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it takes 14 days to get juice out of your system..

i just had my last final on all PED's and what not for nutrition

24 days would give manny more than enough time to get the juice out of his system and make all of his tests come clean.

Money should call for 10 days before the fight this way manny cannot roid up before
 
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Quote Originally Posted by walktheline:

Morally I have no problem with ANYONE doing PED's. It would be nice if PED's would be regulated and understood so that they could hit a ball 600 feet. Why the hell should I care? It's entertainment.

Comments like that are depressing to read.
 
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Quote Originally Posted by PennStateMan077:

it takes 14 days to get juice out of your system..

i just had my last final on all PED's and what not for nutrition

What do you mean for "nutrition?" Class...major...etc?

Some can be beat in 4-9 hours or so I've read.
 
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agreed 100% ,,it seems to becoming more and more obvious,,and the legacy of manny is shrinking by the moment
 
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so many things are wrong with this and MOney isn't the problem with most of it

 

 

If Manny agreed to the SAME TEST MAYWEATHER will be taking then we'd see him get beat the fuck up and people would still say Floyd waited or the testing weakened him but either way none of you PACTARDS will ever give his boxing any appreciation which is play wrong

 

The point of boxing is not to do anything else but hit and not be hit Floyd is the best I've seen at that and that to me makes him good, not the best but good and I for one can appreciate it no matter how much I hate the guy personally (I've meet hime 4-5 times and even watchted the premiere of "300" ; everytime he was a straight bitch and rude to 90% who tried to speak with him...)

 
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Quote Originally Posted by NJDevils:

Floyd is a fraud. He came up with this shit so he could get out of the fight without it looking like he was the guy ducking the fight.



 
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Quote Originally Posted by McNulty:


What do you mean for "nutrition?" Class...major...etc?

Some can be beat in 4-9 hours or so I've read.


sports nutrition class.. involved all sorts of performance enhancing drugs and what not. I'm a physical education teacher so I thought that would be a great elective to learn. You can beat them in 4-9 but those are very hard to come by. The common Steroids are out of your system within 14 days
 
 
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Quote Originally Posted by NJDevils:

Floyd is a fraud. He came up with this shit so he could get out of the fight without it looking like he was the guy ducking the fight.





Why is everyone jumping on this 'ducking' bandwagon? I'll come right back at you and say Manny is ducking Floyd by not taking the stupid test. Your point is irrelevant.
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