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    Posted: May. 5, 2007 - 1:21 PM ET #51

    Been listening to Floyd for a few weeks now.....believe that, emotionally, this fight is bigger than he is. Think that DLH & media coverage have out-psyched him....like a racehorse with that white lather between his legs...think that PBF is gonna have that also.....expend too much energy trying to keep up with DLH....see rounds 8-12 as a waltz for DLH.....
     
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    Been listening to Floyd for a few weeks now.....believe that, emotionally, this fight is bigger than he is. Think that DLH & media coverage have out-psyched him....like a racehorse with that white lather between his legs...think that PBF is gonna have that also.....expend too much energy trying to keep up with DLH....see rounds 8-12 as a waltz for DLH.....
     
    DLH decision in 12
     
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    Posted: May. 5, 2007 - 1:39 PM ET #52

    Normally I would write up a detailed post on the subject, but with so many post to read through, and most everybody already having money in on "something" by now, I will just keep it short and to the point!

     

    BOXEO Bets: ODH!

     

    I hope it turns out to be a great fight and both fighters fight like it really is the super fight we all pray it will be!! 

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    Normally I would write up a detailed post on the subject, but with so many post to read through, and most everybody already having money in on "something" by now, I will just keep it short and to the point!

     

    BOXEO Bets: ODH!

     

    I hope it turns out to be a great fight and both fighters fight like it really is the super fight we all pray it will be!! 

     
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    Posted: May. 5, 2007 - 1:45 PM ET #53

    Alwayswin,
     
                  Calling you out? Nah==== Just having a little fun by debating the fight. Of course there are many ways to look at the bouts we were discussing. I ' ve grown very very disappointed with the way Floyd has decided to run his career. I used to be one of his biggest fans but think he did a disservice to himself and the fight game by ducking all major crossroad bouts. Oscar on the other hand fights anyone and everyone. I really Respect that. We both know that the boxing game comes down to who has the strongest Wills if a fight gets real tough. I just think Oscar wants this one much more. I could be wrong but I am betting I'm not.Nice to see you still participating in the forum. I also Respect your opinion so Please do not be insulted if I disagree with you on the outcome of this fight. If Floyd Wins ( and he might although I doubt it ) I will come back and take the heat after my wife files for a divorce and takes what's left of my assets and dog.
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                  Calling you out? Nah==== Just having a little fun by debating the fight. Of course there are many ways to look at the bouts we were discussing. I ' ve grown very very disappointed with the way Floyd has decided to run his career. I used to be one of his biggest fans but think he did a disservice to himself and the fight game by ducking all major crossroad bouts. Oscar on the other hand fights anyone and everyone. I really Respect that. We both know that the boxing game comes down to who has the strongest Wills if a fight gets real tough. I just think Oscar wants this one much more. I could be wrong but I am betting I'm not.Nice to see you still participating in the forum. I also Respect your opinion so Please do not be insulted if I disagree with you on the outcome of this fight. If Floyd Wins ( and he might although I doubt it ) I will come back and take the heat after my wife files for a divorce and takes what's left of my assets and dog.
     
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    Posted: May. 5, 2007 - 1:46 PM ET #54

    Quote Originally Posted by electricApe:

     
     
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    Is the email address on your profile still good?  I'm going to send you something offline.



    Yeah, it's good.
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    Is the email address on your profile still good?  I'm going to send you something offline.



    Yeah, it's good.
     
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    Posted: May. 5, 2007 - 1:49 PM ET #55

    Quote Originally Posted by Khenson:



    are you sure about this?    Last year I took Jermaine Taylor over Winky Wright, and after it was declared a draw my bet was counted as a loss.


    Then you must have played an outcome such as:

    Taylor by KO/TKO/DQ
    Taylor by decision


    either that or you got screwed by a local.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Khenson:



    are you sure about this?    Last year I took Jermaine Taylor over Winky Wright, and after it was declared a draw my bet was counted as a loss.


    Then you must have played an outcome such as:

    Taylor by KO/TKO/DQ
    Taylor by decision


    either that or you got screwed by a local.
     
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    Posted: May. 5, 2007 - 1:52 PM ET #56

    over 11.5 -240
     
    700 to win 291
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    over 11.5 -240
     
    700 to win 291
     
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    Posted: May. 5, 2007 - 2:50 PM ET #57

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    Posted: May. 5, 2007 - 2:54 PM ET #58

    Quote Originally Posted by Redlad:

    Alwayswin,
     
                  Calling you out? Nah==== Just having a little fun by debating the fight. Of course there are many ways to look at the bouts we were discussing. I ' ve grown very very disappointed with the way Floyd has decided to run his career. I used to be one of his biggest fans but think he did a disservice to himself and the fight game by ducking all major crossroad bouts. Oscar on the other hand fights anyone and everyone. I really Respect that. We both know that the boxing game comes down to who has the strongest Wills if a fight gets real tough. I just think Oscar wants this one much more. I could be wrong but I am betting I'm not.Nice to see you still participating in the forum. I also Respect your opinion so Please do not be insulted if I disagree with you on the outcome of this fight. If Floyd Wins ( and he might although I doubt it ) I will come back and take the heat after my wife files for a divorce and takes what's left of my assets and dog.



    On the ducking/resume topic:

    I agree on the first point. I have also not always agreed with the opponents Floyd has faced since moving up to 140, but he fought anybody and everybody at 130 and 135.  That's why Floyd shouldn't retire like he supposedly plans to do after this fight until he fights against the likes of Cotto, Hatton at 140, and Mosley, in order to really make his stamp on history.  Please don't give me the ducking Margarito talk though, he handles him with great ease in my opinion.

    I wouldn't say that Oscar has fought anybody and everybody.  The one thing about DLH is he always tried to catch fading stars when the opportunity was there (See the two best fighters he has wins over, Whitaker and JCC).  Plus his resume is also filled with with guys at the time of their fight who weren't close to the top of their division at the time (Old Yory, Gatti at 147, Charpentier, an old Camacho, Mayorga, and others). 

    Whoever wins tonight will have claimed the biggest win of their career in the case of PBF and DLH.  It's a defining fight for how both will be remembered.  For Oscar, with a win tonight he can erase the stigma that he was a popular ticket seller that faltered when facing the top guys and don't say that Vargas was a top guy; Trinidad had already ruined him.  For Floyd, with a win tonight he finally gets the respect of the casual sports fan that he has always coveted and be remembered as a great fighter by more than just hardcore boxing fans.

    You have to give Mayweather credit though.  He let Oscar choose the weight they fought at, the brand of gloves used (Big issue for Floyd), where the fight took place, and pretty much any minor stipulation in the contract; he just wanted Oscar in the same ring as himself.  For money maybe, but I think it's for much more than that.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Redlad:

    Alwayswin,
     
                  Calling you out? Nah==== Just having a little fun by debating the fight. Of course there are many ways to look at the bouts we were discussing. I ' ve grown very very disappointed with the way Floyd has decided to run his career. I used to be one of his biggest fans but think he did a disservice to himself and the fight game by ducking all major crossroad bouts. Oscar on the other hand fights anyone and everyone. I really Respect that. We both know that the boxing game comes down to who has the strongest Wills if a fight gets real tough. I just think Oscar wants this one much more. I could be wrong but I am betting I'm not.Nice to see you still participating in the forum. I also Respect your opinion so Please do not be insulted if I disagree with you on the outcome of this fight. If Floyd Wins ( and he might although I doubt it ) I will come back and take the heat after my wife files for a divorce and takes what's left of my assets and dog.



    On the ducking/resume topic:

    I agree on the first point. I have also not always agreed with the opponents Floyd has faced since moving up to 140, but he fought anybody and everybody at 130 and 135.  That's why Floyd shouldn't retire like he supposedly plans to do after this fight until he fights against the likes of Cotto, Hatton at 140, and Mosley, in order to really make his stamp on history.  Please don't give me the ducking Margarito talk though, he handles him with great ease in my opinion.

    I wouldn't say that Oscar has fought anybody and everybody.  The one thing about DLH is he always tried to catch fading stars when the opportunity was there (See the two best fighters he has wins over, Whitaker and JCC).  Plus his resume is also filled with with guys at the time of their fight who weren't close to the top of their division at the time (Old Yory, Gatti at 147, Charpentier, an old Camacho, Mayorga, and others). 

    Whoever wins tonight will have claimed the biggest win of their career in the case of PBF and DLH.  It's a defining fight for how both will be remembered.  For Oscar, with a win tonight he can erase the stigma that he was a popular ticket seller that faltered when facing the top guys and don't say that Vargas was a top guy; Trinidad had already ruined him.  For Floyd, with a win tonight he finally gets the respect of the casual sports fan that he has always coveted and be remembered as a great fighter by more than just hardcore boxing fans.

    You have to give Mayweather credit though.  He let Oscar choose the weight they fought at, the brand of gloves used (Big issue for Floyd), where the fight took place, and pretty much any minor stipulation in the contract; he just wanted Oscar in the same ring as himself.  For money maybe, but I think it's for much more than that.



     
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    Posted: May. 5, 2007 - 3:28 PM ET #59

    Fullbrights said,
     
                         
    You have to give Mayweather credit though.  He let Oscar choose the weight they fought at, the brand of gloves used (Big issue for Floyd), where the fight took place, and pretty much any minor stipulation in the contract; he just wanted Oscar in the same ring as himself.  For money maybe, but I think it's for much more than that.
     
     
    It's true that Mayweather gave up some stips too make this fight. I'll give him small props for that but I think even he was getting tired of the whole boxing world questioning his opponents. Every great boxer fights a few stiffs between major bouts so I wouldn't be too hard on Oscar on that point. And let's face it he is a great businessman as well as boxer. I have no doubt that Floyd thinks that DeLaHoya is way past his prime and he can outspeed him at this stage of the game. Is their anyone in his camp who would not tell him he is the greatest boxer who ever lived. I hardly think so. But moving up 2 weights classes in a relatively short period of time to fight a world class fighter is no easy task. One that very few boxers have been able to accomplish in the history of the fight game. Is he that good? We' ll see tonight.
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    You have to give Mayweather credit though.  He let Oscar choose the weight they fought at, the brand of gloves used (Big issue for Floyd), where the fight took place, and pretty much any minor stipulation in the contract; he just wanted Oscar in the same ring as himself.  For money maybe, but I think it's for much more than that.
     
     
    It's true that Mayweather gave up some stips too make this fight. I'll give him small props for that but I think even he was getting tired of the whole boxing world questioning his opponents. Every great boxer fights a few stiffs between major bouts so I wouldn't be too hard on Oscar on that point. And let's face it he is a great businessman as well as boxer. I have no doubt that Floyd thinks that DeLaHoya is way past his prime and he can outspeed him at this stage of the game. Is their anyone in his camp who would not tell him he is the greatest boxer who ever lived. I hardly think so. But moving up 2 weights classes in a relatively short period of time to fight a world class fighter is no easy task. One that very few boxers have been able to accomplish in the history of the fight game. Is he that good? We' ll see tonight.
     
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    Posted: May. 5, 2007 - 4:01 PM ET #60

    Quote Originally Posted by PINNACLE:

    I already won!   It's simply a matter of how much at this point...
     
    Got ODLH @  + 200 sometime ago.......
     
    Now simply waiting for the Mexicans and the "pretty" people of Hollywood to drive the price down on PBF.
     
    Looking for  - 160 or better.......but will probably settle w/ -170 on Pretty Boy
     
    Best no risk investment I've ever made.......... Thank You HBO!!!!!!!!!........... I'll just be watching the fight w/ a smile on my face...of course, rooting for the "Golden Boy"
     
    GL FullBrights
     
    DRAW, I can't Wait! 
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    Quote Originally Posted by PINNACLE:

    I already won!   It's simply a matter of how much at this point...
     
    Got ODLH @  + 200 sometime ago.......
     
    Now simply waiting for the Mexicans and the "pretty" people of Hollywood to drive the price down on PBF.
     
    Looking for  - 160 or better.......but will probably settle w/ -170 on Pretty Boy
     
    Best no risk investment I've ever made.......... Thank You HBO!!!!!!!!!........... I'll just be watching the fight w/ a smile on my face...of course, rooting for the "Golden Boy"
     
    GL FullBrights
     
    DRAW, I can't Wait! 
     
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    Posted: May. 5, 2007 - 4:15 PM ET #61

    Quote Originally Posted by FITMAS:

     
    DRAW, I can't Wait! 



    He would get his money back from a draw on both wagers, so nothing would be lost.  The only way a draw would nix both wagers is if he played each fighter by an outcome prop such as KO/TKO/DQ or by decison.
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    DRAW, I can't Wait! 



    He would get his money back from a draw on both wagers, so nothing would be lost.  The only way a draw would nix both wagers is if he played each fighter by an outcome prop such as KO/TKO/DQ or by decison.
     
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    Posted: May. 5, 2007 - 5:48 PM ET #62

    I can't help but think this fight has DRAW potential...
     
    At least a small bet probably advisable for all
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    I can't help but think this fight has DRAW potential...
     
    At least a small bet probably advisable for all
     
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    Posted: May. 5, 2007 - 5:56 PM ET #63

    over 11.5 rounds -240
    de la hoya +5 pts -120 (any ko wins)
    mayweather lederman -.5 pts -160 (any ko wins)
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    over 11.5 rounds -240
    de la hoya +5 pts -120 (any ko wins)
    mayweather lederman -.5 pts -160 (any ko wins)
     
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    Posted: May. 5, 2007 - 7:02 PM ET #64

    Quote Originally Posted by Redlad:

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    You have to give Mayweather credit though.  He let Oscar choose the weight they fought at, the brand of gloves used (Big issue for Floyd), where the fight took place, and pretty much any minor stipulation in the contract; he just wanted Oscar in the same ring as himself.  For money maybe, but I think it's for much more than that.
     
     
    It's true that Mayweather gave up some stips too make this fight. I'll give him small props for that but I think even he was getting tired of the whole boxing world questioning his opponents. Every great boxer fights a few stiffs between major bouts so I wouldn't be too hard on Oscar on that point. And let's face it he is a great businessman as well as boxer. I have no doubt that Floyd thinks that DeLaHoya is way past his prime and he can outspeed him at this stage of the game. Is their anyone in his camp who would not tell him he is the greatest boxer who ever lived. I hardly think so. But moving up 2 weights classes in a relatively short period of time to fight a world class fighter is no easy task. One that very few boxers have been able to accomplish in the history of the fight game. Is he that good? We' ll see tonight.



    We will see man.  I'm mainly against you, but I hedged with your boy DLH by SD and MD.  Good luck, I would hate to see a divorce come out of the fight.
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    Fullbrights said,
     
                         
    You have to give Mayweather credit though.  He let Oscar choose the weight they fought at, the brand of gloves used (Big issue for Floyd), where the fight took place, and pretty much any minor stipulation in the contract; he just wanted Oscar in the same ring as himself.  For money maybe, but I think it's for much more than that.
     
     
    It's true that Mayweather gave up some stips too make this fight. I'll give him small props for that but I think even he was getting tired of the whole boxing world questioning his opponents. Every great boxer fights a few stiffs between major bouts so I wouldn't be too hard on Oscar on that point. And let's face it he is a great businessman as well as boxer. I have no doubt that Floyd thinks that DeLaHoya is way past his prime and he can outspeed him at this stage of the game. Is their anyone in his camp who would not tell him he is the greatest boxer who ever lived. I hardly think so. But moving up 2 weights classes in a relatively short period of time to fight a world class fighter is no easy task. One that very few boxers have been able to accomplish in the history of the fight game. Is he that good? We' ll see tonight.



    We will see man.  I'm mainly against you, but I hedged with your boy DLH by SD and MD.  Good luck, I would hate to see a divorce come out of the fight.
     
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    Posted: May. 5, 2007 - 8:03 PM ET #65

    my local has pbf at -140 would that be a steal
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    my local has pbf at -140 would that be a steal
     
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    Posted: May. 5, 2007 - 8:27 PM ET #66

    Quote Originally Posted by electricApe:

     
     

    Your bets are structured poorly.  You have $1500 invested in FM by Decision.  You have $650 invested in FM by KO.  Those events are mutually exclusive.  If you want, I can demonstrate mathematically how you are costing yourself money. 

     
    Since I am relatively new to sports gambling, and am trying to soak up any knowledge that could potentially give me an edge, I am curious as to what could have been done different to make this a more intelligent wager.  I know this post wasn't directed at me, I am just taking a stab at learning something new.
     
    I could probably sit around and figure this out, but if there are any rule of thumbs I can learn, I guess that is what I am asking for.
     
    I respect all cappers and am especially jealous of those who consistently win.  Jealous because they seem to see different info than I.
     
    Thanks for any info I get back.
     
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    Your bets are structured poorly.  You have $1500 invested in FM by Decision.  You have $650 invested in FM by KO.  Those events are mutually exclusive.  If you want, I can demonstrate mathematically how you are costing yourself money. 

     
    Since I am relatively new to sports gambling, and am trying to soak up any knowledge that could potentially give me an edge, I am curious as to what could have been done different to make this a more intelligent wager.  I know this post wasn't directed at me, I am just taking a stab at learning something new.
     
    I could probably sit around and figure this out, but if there are any rule of thumbs I can learn, I guess that is what I am asking for.
     
    I respect all cappers and am especially jealous of those who consistently win.  Jealous because they seem to see different info than I.
     
    Thanks for any info I get back.
     
    JM
     
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    Posted: May. 5, 2007 - 8:34 PM ET #67

    JM- your honesty is appreciated, and I think with that attitude you are already ahead of the game. Perhaps don't bet so much if you aren't totally comfortable. Unless your bankroll is that big and its peanuts to you.
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    JM- your honesty is appreciated, and I think with that attitude you are already ahead of the game. Perhaps don't bet so much if you aren't totally comfortable. Unless your bankroll is that big and its peanuts to you.
     
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    Posted: May. 5, 2007 - 9:36 PM ET #68

    what time does the fight start.  I can't seem to find it.
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    what time does the fight start.  I can't seem to find it.
     
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    Posted: May. 5, 2007 - 10:05 PM ET #69

    10 (central) I believe.
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    Posted: May. 5, 2007 - 10:14 PM ET #70

    thanks
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    Posted: May. 5, 2007 - 10:30 PM ET #71

    BET ON THE PROP INTEAD
     
    MAYWEATHER BY DECISION AT EV
     
    DELAHOYA BY DECISION AT +280
     
    OR
     
    DELAHOYA BY KO, TKO, DQ AT +340
     
    MAYWEATHER BY KO, TKO, DQ AT +400
     
    ILL TAKE MAYWEATHER BY DECISION AT EV $500
     
    DELAHOYA BY DECISION AT+280 $150
     
    DRAW $20
     
    DELAHOYA BY KO, TKO, DQ AT +340 $50
     
    MAYWEATHER BY KO, TKO, DQ AT +400 $50
     
    ILL WIN SUMTHING
     
     
     
     
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    BET ON THE PROP INTEAD
     
    MAYWEATHER BY DECISION AT EV
     
    DELAHOYA BY DECISION AT +280
     
    OR
     
    DELAHOYA BY KO, TKO, DQ AT +340
     
    MAYWEATHER BY KO, TKO, DQ AT +400
     
    ILL TAKE MAYWEATHER BY DECISION AT EV $500
     
    DELAHOYA BY DECISION AT+280 $150
     
    DRAW $20
     
    DELAHOYA BY KO, TKO, DQ AT +340 $50
     
    MAYWEATHER BY KO, TKO, DQ AT +400 $50
     
    ILL WIN SUMTHING
     
     
     
     
     
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    Posted: May. 5, 2007 - 10:54 PM ET #72

    It looks like the fight is being pushed back.

    My book had it listed at 10 p.m. about 30 minutes ago, now it's listed at 12 a.m. (central).
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    It looks like the fight is being pushed back.

    My book had it listed at 10 p.m. about 30 minutes ago, now it's listed at 12 a.m. (central).
     
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    Posted: May. 5, 2007 - 11:01 PM ET #73

    Tell me that was NOT the MEXICAN FLAG on PBF shorts!!! 
     
     
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    Tell me that was NOT the MEXICAN FLAG on PBF shorts!!! 
     
     
     
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    Posted: May. 5, 2007 - 11:01 PM ET #74

    I can get -160 on PFB...I see -200 everywhere now...seems like a good play everyone?
     
     
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    I can get -160 on PFB...I see -200 everywhere now...seems like a good play everyone?
     
     
     
     
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    Posted: May. 5, 2007 - 11:03 PM ET #75

    the crowd reaction for this second fight is AWESOME!!!!
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    the crowd reaction for this second fight is AWESOME!!!!
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