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Quote Originally Posted by frank the tank:



the old version of Margarito would be a difficult match for Pacquiao...but now he has no plaster jk. ACtually Margarito has taken too much punishment from Cotto/Mosley and he definitely is no the same fighter he once was. Don't be fooled by the 24/7 show...Margarito is finished as a top fighter


You're basing this off of what?
 
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JERSEY mah BOY  ...   u  gonna learn da hardway ...  $$$
 
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jerseyboy probably got $20 on Margarito hope you're here when margarito gets stopped, he's in for a rude awakening, this Pacman guy is blindingly fast, read a newspaper or something u dummy
 
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Quote Originally Posted by Jerseyboy89:

Just looking at the styles, this fight is a mismatch.  I believe Margarito will stop him between rounds 5-8.  Pacquiao cant fight off his back foot and won't be able handle Margarito power/size and pressure.  I'm predicting a corner stoppage.  The way you want to structure your bet is straddle Margarito by KO +500 with Pacquiao by decision +300 or the over @ 9 1/2 + 140. 

Thank me after the fight. 

 

Thats the funniest posting i have ever seen in this forum. PacMan's opponents doesn't realize that he is VERY FAST until they step in the RING. By that time, its TOO late to adjust.

Margarito goes down twice and this wont go to distance.

 
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Quote Originally Posted by BLAK_MAMBA:

jerseyboy probably got $20 on Margarito hope you're here when margarito gets stopped, he's in for a rude awakening, this Pacman guy is blindingly fast, read a newspaper or something u dummy


haha. I really hope he's still here when his "GOD" gets KOed.
 
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Margo will KO pacman imo.
 
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hey jerseyboy89, you seem to be the only one picking the B level margarito in this fight, does that not tell you something, you are talking about margarito like he's henry armstrong or something, margarito is so slow it's pathetic, you say that pacquiao can't fight going backwards, it's not about going backwards it's about ring generalship, using the ring intelligently and if you watch manny you will notice that he has improved his footwork a great deal in the last 2 or 3 years, pacquiao will dictate the pace of this fight, not margarito, this is the classic bull vs the matador fight, the difference is that the matador is the dangerous one here. margarito will be a sitting duck for manny's blazing combos and manny's foot speed will leave margarito missing and missing alot, margarito is a bad defensive fighter against the best offensive fighter in the world, that equals out to a brutal beatdown. pacquiao easily beats this B level cheater.

 
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Quote Originally Posted by Cixelsyd:



LOL @ Mosley's power not "even close to being on Manny's level". 

Pacquiao doesn't have near the one punch power that Mosley has.

This shit will be a walk in the park for Manny, sure.  But in terms of power... Mosley > Manny.

Really?  Since 2002, the last 8 years, Mosley has FOUR stoppages.  TWO of those vs a completely shot Vargas, who had no business being in the ring.  Another being over a completely shot Mayorga, who took him to the 12th round and walked through all of his punches, before finally getting dropped at the end of the fight.  The OTHER, vs. who?  Oh yes, Margarito.  Four stoppages in eight years.  Against Cotto, Mosley could not even hurt him.  He landed flush many times and Cotto walked through each one.  Compare that to Pacquiao.  We all saw what he did to Cotto.

Also, what makes Pacquiao such a dangerous puncher is something only experts or those that train notice.  He is the best in the sport at PUNCHING WHILE HIS OPPONENT IS PUNCHING.  Because he has no fear of getting hit, he hits his oponents with shots they do not see, which hurt them that much more and stop them.

 
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Really?  Since 2002, the last 8 years, Mosley has FOUR stoppages.  TWO of those vs a completely shot Vargas, who had no business being in the ring.  Another being over a completely shot Mayorga, who took him to the 12th round and walked through all of his punches, before finally getting dropped at the end of the fight.  The OTHER, vs. who?  Oh yes, Margarito.  Four stoppages in eight years.  Against Cotto, Mosley could not even hurt him.  He landed flush many times and Cotto walked through each one.  Compare that to Pacquiao.  We all saw what he did to Cotto.

Also, what makes Pacquiao such a dangerous puncher is something only experts or those that train notice.  He is the best in the sport at PUNCHING WHILE HIS OPPONENT IS PUNCHING.  Because he has no fear of getting hit, he hits his oponents with shots they do not see, which hurt them that much more and stop them.

 

LOL.  Nothing about that first paragraph means a damn thing.  The way a fight plays out depends on a hell of a lot more than just "who hits harder".  I can't believe you can make that arugument in one sentence, and then in the very next, claim to be an "expert".  The fact that Manny has more stoppages, doesn't mean he has more one punch power than Mosley.  Jesus Christ. 

 

One punch power..  Mosley > Manny.  

 

LOL @ "only experts or people who train".  Like you're dropping some kind of ground breaking knowledge.  I'm 30, and have trained at the same gym for a lot of years.  So don't come at me like that.

 
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So let me get this straight.  The fact that the only not-shot fighter Mosley has stopped in 8 years is Margarito means nothing.  The fact that Mosley could not hurt Cotto despite landing flush, he could not even stagger him, yet Pacquiao crushed Cotto with ease means nothing.  The fact that Pacquiao actually hurt De La Hoya and had him staggered, something Mosley could not accomplish in two fights, means nothing.  I don't know where you train, but you nothing about the sport of boxing.   Your factual evidence to back up is your claim is what again?  Oh that's right, you don't have any.  Mosley hasn't had power since he was a LW.  His power never carried up with him in weight classes.  Like any analyst knows, your power is the last to go.  Yet for some reason Mosley's left him in 2002.  Stick to Kentucky basketball.

By the way, not many, if any, fans realize that the ability to punch while your opponent is punching determines winners more often than not.  I have never seen you mention it before, and clearly you cannot analyze boxing at all.  Pacquiao's Power>Mosley's.  Resumes, results and statistics back that up.  Sorry.

 
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Quote Originally Posted by CashSeason:

So let me get this straight.  The fact that the only not-shot fighter Mosley has stopped in 8 years is Margarito means nothing.  The fact that Mosley could not hurt Cotto despite landing flush, he could not even stagger him, yet Pacquiao crushed Cotto with ease means nothing.  The fact that Pacquiao actually hurt De La Hoya and had him staggered, something Mosley could not accomplish in two fights, means nothing.  I don't know where you train, but you nothing about the sport of boxing.   Your factual evidence to back up is your claim is what again?  Oh that's right, you don't have any.  Mosley hasn't had power since he was a LW.  His power never carried up with him in weight classes.  Like any analyst knows, your power is the last to go.  Yet for some reason Mosley's left him in 2002.  Stick to Kentucky basketball.

By the way, not many, if any, fans realize that the ability to punch while your opponent is punching determines winners more often than not.  I have never seen you mention it before, and clearly you cannot analyze boxing at all.  Pacquiao's Power>Mosley's.  Resumes, results and statistics back that up.  Sorry.



Cotto was running the last 3 rounds vs Mosley, what are you talking about?
 
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excellent call, i took Mar by KO +450, Pac by DEC +280 and Over 9.5 -105. 


 
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The little man has some nice combination and footwork, it's always a pleasure watching him fight. Margarito stood his ground but damn his head looked nasty.
 
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The Pac-man

 

 
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All I know is the Pacman is one badass dude. Wow.
 
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HHAHAHAHAHAHH  what a retart this jersey boy guy is.
 
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We'll never see him again.
 
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Looked like alot of speed and angles.
 
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manny literally broke margarito's face!
https://sports.espn.go.com/dallas/news/story?id=5805223
 
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PACMAN HATERS ARE HIDING, LIKE CHEATO'S HIDING HIS BATTERED FACE.
 
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PACMAN just turned Margaritos face into Pinata. What a beast. The Dude is just a freaking machine.
 
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Quote Originally Posted by CashSeason:

So let me get this straight.  The fact that the only not-shot fighter Mosley has stopped in 8 years is Margarito means nothing.  The fact that Mosley could not hurt Cotto despite landing flush, he could not even stagger him, yet Pacquiao crushed Cotto with ease means nothing.  The fact that Pacquiao actually hurt De La Hoya and had him staggered, something Mosley could not accomplish in two fights, means nothing.  I don't know where you train, but you nothing about the sport of boxing.   Your factual evidence to back up is your claim is what again?  Oh that's right, you don't have any.  Mosley hasn't had power since he was a LW.  His power never carried up with him in weight classes.  Like any analyst knows, your power is the last to go.  Yet for some reason Mosley's left him in 2002.  Stick to Kentucky basketball.

By the way, not many, if any, fans realize that the ability to punch while your opponent is punching determines winners more often than not.  I have never seen you mention it before, and clearly you cannot analyze boxing at all.  Pacquiao's Power>Mosley's.  Resumes, results and statistics back that up.  Sorry.



You, sir, have absolutely NO idea what you're talking about.
 
 
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Quote Originally Posted by CashSeason:

So let me get this straight.  The fact that the only not-shot fighter Mosley has stopped in 8 years is Margarito means nothing.  The fact that Mosley could not hurt Cotto despite landing flush, he could not even stagger him, yet Pacquiao crushed Cotto with ease means nothing.  The fact that Pacquiao actually hurt De La Hoya and had him staggered, something Mosley could not accomplish in two fights, means nothing.  I don't know where you train, but you nothing about the sport of boxing.   Your factual evidence to back up is your claim is what again?  Oh that's right, you don't have any.  Mosley hasn't had power since he was a LW.  His power never carried up with him in weight classes.  Like any analyst knows, your power is the last to go.  Yet for some reason Mosley's left him in 2002.  Stick to Kentucky basketball.

By the way, not many, if any, fans realize that the ability to punch while your opponent is punching determines winners more often than not.  I have never seen you mention it before, and clearly you cannot analyze boxing at all.  Pacquiao's Power>Mosley's.  Resumes, results and statistics back that up.  Sorry.



The fact that you're comparing the DLH that fought Mosley, to the DLH that fought Pacquiao, pretty much proves that you know absolutely nothing. 

The fact that you're comparing the Cotto that fought Mosley, to the Cotto that fought Pacquiao, pretty much proves that you know absolutely nothing. 

The fact that you're discrediting Mosley's power because he "only stopped Margarito", pretty much proves that you know absolutely nothing. 

The fact that basically every analyst and "expert" will tell you that in terms of just raw punching power Mosley has more than Pacquiao, pretty much proves that you know absolutely nothing. 

A lot of what makes Pacquiao so dangerous, is his insane speed, and awkward angles.  And the sheer volume of punches he's hitting you with. 

Basically, what you're saying is... Pacquiao stopped DLH, and Cotto, so he punches harder than Mosley. 

And in the very next breath, you claim that Mosley stopping Margarito (someone who Pacquiao was unable to stop) means nothing. 

You contradict yourself so much it's pathetic. 

Mosley landed less punches against Margarito than Manny did.  And Margarito went out on his ass against Mosley.  So by YOUR very own logic, Mosley's power > Manny's power.
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