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    Posted: Mar. 21, 2015 - 5:54 AM ET #26

    Quote Originally Posted by MoneySRH:

    This won't be rigged or become some kind of fukkin bullsh1t conspiracy. Mayweather cares more about being undefeated than he does about his children.

    Being undefeated means more to him than anything in the fukkin world. There is no amount of money on earth that Mayweather would take to give up his undefeated record.

    There will be no rematch. There is no rematch clause in the contract they signed. This is a one time deal. Fighting Manny twice would be way too much of a risk to his precious undefeated record.

    If Floyd wins - he takes a huge sigh of relief, (obnoxiously disrespects Manny by giving him the finger), and fights Khan. He'll say Manny doesn't deserve another shot.

    The b1tch will probably knock out glass joe khan and retire. He'll naively claim TBE (the best excuses) and arrogantly walks out of the ring clucking that he's wealthy, healthy, and undefeated.


    MT wouldn't necessarily have to be in w/ the fix.

    He could land more punches but if he's not KO'ing Pacman the fight can be rigged...a la Bradley vs Pacquiao. Hence MT 'gets angry, amped up and sets up for a round 2.'
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    Quote Originally Posted by MoneySRH:

    This won't be rigged or become some kind of fukkin bullsh1t conspiracy. Mayweather cares more about being undefeated than he does about his children.

    Being undefeated means more to him than anything in the fukkin world. There is no amount of money on earth that Mayweather would take to give up his undefeated record.

    There will be no rematch. There is no rematch clause in the contract they signed. This is a one time deal. Fighting Manny twice would be way too much of a risk to his precious undefeated record.

    If Floyd wins - he takes a huge sigh of relief, (obnoxiously disrespects Manny by giving him the finger), and fights Khan. He'll say Manny doesn't deserve another shot.

    The b1tch will probably knock out glass joe khan and retire. He'll naively claim TBE (the best excuses) and arrogantly walks out of the ring clucking that he's wealthy, healthy, and undefeated.


    MT wouldn't necessarily have to be in w/ the fix.

    He could land more punches but if he's not KO'ing Pacman the fight can be rigged...a la Bradley vs Pacquiao. Hence MT 'gets angry, amped up and sets up for a round 2.'
     
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    Posted: Mar. 23, 2015 - 11:19 AM ET #27

    Quote Originally Posted by GuardiaDeMieux:


    Alright.  If I were to give my personal feelings on this matter, I don't like the fact that Floyd Mayweather Jr. impresses his perfect 47-0 record to the uninitiated/casual boxing fan, for him to justifiy his "The Greatest Boxer Ever" monicker.  James "Lights Out" Toney was 44-0 with 2 draws before he ran into Roy Jones Jr.  Is he the second greatest professional boxer ever?  The propaganda is a little taxing to me, sometimes.  But, from reading your post, I believe your vitriol for Mayweather Jr. comes from...somewhere else.  Forgive me if I misjudged.

    I believe this will be a fight for the ages.  This fight will be the greatest milestone in both fighter's legacy.  I also don't believe there will be any "funny business" with this fight (although, as in ANY sport, be mindful of weary-minded referess/officials/judges).  However, as 3BallBomber had agreed upon, having a perfect record for Mayweather Jr. alone...doesn't guarantee a future revenue stream of pay-per-view.  As had been reported from various media sources, Floyd Mayweather Jr.'s opportunities outside of the ring are pretty limited.  He *WILLINGLY* embarrassed himself on a morning radio show in a competition with rapper 50 cent that Floyd couldn't read a paragraph in 2 minutes, which the boxer failed to do.  I was told his reading comprehension is pretty embarrassing.  At the official press conference announcing the fight between Mayweather Jr. and Pacquiao, I saw every major player, from both camps, walked to the podium to express their pleasure on being a part of this major event of the ages on May 2nd.  Floyd Mayweather Sr. was expected to say something to the audience, but in an awkward move...he stayed seated and remained quiet.  It would seem that move was to not embarass himself or his boxing camp with his speech impediment.  His son seemed to not fare much better himself at the podium addressing the audience, in my humble opinion.

    I said all that to imply that if boxing is your one-and-only surefire way of living (and he does excel in that field), and Father Time will come and take that from you sometime soon...why not make the most out of this opportunity, this once-in-a-lifetime opportunity you have here, and make this a 3-match pay-per-view showdown?  Dare I say...have the 3rd match (finale) become a "Thrilla in Manilla", in the vein of Muhammad Ali vs Joe Frazier's final match?  The revenue stream would be utterly insane, both boxing reputations would truly skyrocket to epic proportions, and the sport *could* possibly find itself in a bit of a resurgence from it (although, I still believe a few "spectacular" cruiserweight or heavier is needed for that).  Just makes sense all around.  Again, if I'm talking from a degree of naiveness, I apologize.

    Please excuse the rant, just a boxing fan giving his point of view...
    I believe Mayweather is a disgrace to the sport of boxing. Every time he claims “TBE” it’s a slap in the face to all the legends like Sugar Ray Robinson, Henry Armstrong, Sam Langford, Joe Gans, and Archie Moore. These men had over 568 knockouts combined and fought like men. Mayweather has only 26 knockouts and does as little as possible to squeak out with a weak decision and claims “the best ever.”  

    The only thing he is the best at is making money. He is the best money making boxer ever. I'll give him that. What you are saying sounds logical but Mayweather doesn’t care about risky opportunities. He looks for the easiest fight with the smallest amount of risk and the biggest payout possible. He only took this fight because of the unrelenting pressure. Good post sir.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GuardiaDeMieux:


    Alright.  If I were to give my personal feelings on this matter, I don't like the fact that Floyd Mayweather Jr. impresses his perfect 47-0 record to the uninitiated/casual boxing fan, for him to justifiy his "The Greatest Boxer Ever" monicker.  James "Lights Out" Toney was 44-0 with 2 draws before he ran into Roy Jones Jr.  Is he the second greatest professional boxer ever?  The propaganda is a little taxing to me, sometimes.  But, from reading your post, I believe your vitriol for Mayweather Jr. comes from...somewhere else.  Forgive me if I misjudged.

    I believe this will be a fight for the ages.  This fight will be the greatest milestone in both fighter's legacy.  I also don't believe there will be any "funny business" with this fight (although, as in ANY sport, be mindful of weary-minded referess/officials/judges).  However, as 3BallBomber had agreed upon, having a perfect record for Mayweather Jr. alone...doesn't guarantee a future revenue stream of pay-per-view.  As had been reported from various media sources, Floyd Mayweather Jr.'s opportunities outside of the ring are pretty limited.  He *WILLINGLY* embarrassed himself on a morning radio show in a competition with rapper 50 cent that Floyd couldn't read a paragraph in 2 minutes, which the boxer failed to do.  I was told his reading comprehension is pretty embarrassing.  At the official press conference announcing the fight between Mayweather Jr. and Pacquiao, I saw every major player, from both camps, walked to the podium to express their pleasure on being a part of this major event of the ages on May 2nd.  Floyd Mayweather Sr. was expected to say something to the audience, but in an awkward move...he stayed seated and remained quiet.  It would seem that move was to not embarass himself or his boxing camp with his speech impediment.  His son seemed to not fare much better himself at the podium addressing the audience, in my humble opinion.

    I said all that to imply that if boxing is your one-and-only surefire way of living (and he does excel in that field), and Father Time will come and take that from you sometime soon...why not make the most out of this opportunity, this once-in-a-lifetime opportunity you have here, and make this a 3-match pay-per-view showdown?  Dare I say...have the 3rd match (finale) become a "Thrilla in Manilla", in the vein of Muhammad Ali vs Joe Frazier's final match?  The revenue stream would be utterly insane, both boxing reputations would truly skyrocket to epic proportions, and the sport *could* possibly find itself in a bit of a resurgence from it (although, I still believe a few "spectacular" cruiserweight or heavier is needed for that).  Just makes sense all around.  Again, if I'm talking from a degree of naiveness, I apologize.

    Please excuse the rant, just a boxing fan giving his point of view...
    I believe Mayweather is a disgrace to the sport of boxing. Every time he claims “TBE” it’s a slap in the face to all the legends like Sugar Ray Robinson, Henry Armstrong, Sam Langford, Joe Gans, and Archie Moore. These men had over 568 knockouts combined and fought like men. Mayweather has only 26 knockouts and does as little as possible to squeak out with a weak decision and claims “the best ever.”  

    The only thing he is the best at is making money. He is the best money making boxer ever. I'll give him that. What you are saying sounds logical but Mayweather doesn’t care about risky opportunities. He looks for the easiest fight with the smallest amount of risk and the biggest payout possible. He only took this fight because of the unrelenting pressure. Good post sir.

     
     
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    Posted: Mar. 23, 2015 - 11:21 AM ET #28

    Quote Originally Posted by 3BallBomber:


    MT wouldn't necessarily have to be in w/ the fix.

    He could land more punches but if he's not KO'ing Pacman the fight can be rigged...a la Bradley vs Pacquiao. Hence MT 'gets angry, amped up and sets up for a round 2.'
    3BallBomber - interesting post. The judges were paid off by Mayweathers’ camp to avoid the fight with Pacman. If judges are going to be paid off - it will likely be Mayweather doing the payoff. I think your scenario is really interesting, though. To see Floyd begging Manny for a rematch would be cool.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 3BallBomber:


    MT wouldn't necessarily have to be in w/ the fix.

    He could land more punches but if he's not KO'ing Pacman the fight can be rigged...a la Bradley vs Pacquiao. Hence MT 'gets angry, amped up and sets up for a round 2.'
    3BallBomber - interesting post. The judges were paid off by Mayweathers’ camp to avoid the fight with Pacman. If judges are going to be paid off - it will likely be Mayweather doing the payoff. I think your scenario is really interesting, though. To see Floyd begging Manny for a rematch would be cool.

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