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    Ronald "Winky" Wright vs Paul Williams (Fight Odds)

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    Posted: Apr. 3, 2009 - 5:04 PM ET #26

    I sure hope you're right and I'm wrong
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    I sure hope you're right and I'm wrong
     
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    Posted: Apr. 5, 2009 - 1:08 PM ET #27

    As per 5 dimes:

    Middleweight 12 rounds - Mandalay Bay Resort & Casino, Las Vegas, Nevada - HBO
    Sat 4/11101 Ronald Winky Wright +150          
    11:00PM (EST) 102Paul Williams -190 

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    As per 5 dimes:

    Middleweight 12 rounds - Mandalay Bay Resort & Casino, Las Vegas, Nevada - HBO
    Sat 4/11101 Ronald Winky Wright +150          
    11:00PM (EST) 102Paul Williams -190 

     
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    Posted: Apr. 5, 2009 - 2:18 PM ET #28

    Finally. . .
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    Finally. . .
     
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    Posted: Apr. 5, 2009 - 2:18 PM ET #29

    -195/+155 now. . .  no total set
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    -195/+155 now. . .  no total set
     
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    Posted: Apr. 5, 2009 - 7:02 PM ET #30

    As I stated, the information I had -180 and that it would increase appears to be true. Still, we even with a late surge on Williams, this late of a line is ridiculous, and maybe the first time I've seen of in fight of this magnitude.
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    As I stated, the information I had -180 and that it would increase appears to be true. Still, we even with a late surge on Williams, this late of a line is ridiculous, and maybe the first time I've seen of in fight of this magnitude.
     
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    Posted: Apr. 5, 2009 - 7:06 PM ET #31

    Quote Originally Posted by G8RB8:

    -195/+155 now. . .  no total set


    The distance total has to be at least -250...
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    Quote Originally Posted by G8RB8:

    -195/+155 now. . .  no total set


    The distance total has to be at least -250...
     
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    Posted: Apr. 5, 2009 - 7:51 PM ET #32

    Quote Originally Posted by greenhousegas:



    The distance total has to be at least -250...

    I hope so.  I'm going to be on Wright ITD and the under.

    IMO, either Williams is too much and overwhelms Winky, or Winky counters him all night long. 
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    Quote Originally Posted by greenhousegas:



    The distance total has to be at least -250...

    I hope so.  I'm going to be on Wright ITD and the under.

    IMO, either Williams is too much and overwhelms Winky, or Winky counters him all night long. 
     
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    Posted: Apr. 6, 2009 - 5:21 PM ET #33

    Winky hasn't had a KO since 7 years ago. He hasn't fought in nearly 2 years... also 1 total KO/TKO in a decade. To think with such a layoff for him, he will most likely comeout with his best skills of defense and jabbing. He is a ring technician, not a finisher. Juan Manuel Marquez is an example of a great technician, and adjusts as he goes, but Marquez has that toe-to-toe aggressiveness, and rightly so with a great chin, speed, power, and stamina. Most importantly, he seizes the right opportunities. Winky stays game plan and it wins fights, unless a cut or swelling on Williams that happens, I feel Winky ITD is a terrible wager.
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    Winky hasn't had a KO since 7 years ago. He hasn't fought in nearly 2 years... also 1 total KO/TKO in a decade. To think with such a layoff for him, he will most likely comeout with his best skills of defense and jabbing. He is a ring technician, not a finisher. Juan Manuel Marquez is an example of a great technician, and adjusts as he goes, but Marquez has that toe-to-toe aggressiveness, and rightly so with a great chin, speed, power, and stamina. Most importantly, he seizes the right opportunities. Winky stays game plan and it wins fights, unless a cut or swelling on Williams that happens, I feel Winky ITD is a terrible wager.
     
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    Posted: Apr. 6, 2009 - 6:15 PM ET #34

    Wright knocking out Williams will be among the most shocking things in boxing history.  It won't happen.

    Williams by decision will probably have the best value.
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    Wright knocking out Williams will be among the most shocking things in boxing history.  It won't happen.

    Williams by decision will probably have the best value.
     
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    Posted: Apr. 7, 2009 - 7:37 PM ET #35

    Atmanne:
    Agreed.
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    Atmanne:
    Agreed.
     
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    Posted: Apr. 8, 2009 - 2:00 PM ET #36

    Winky via boring decision for me
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    Winky via boring decision for me
     
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    Posted: Apr. 8, 2009 - 2:02 PM ET #37

    Williams is fighting Winky for the big name recognition, TV date, and money...no fighter says "promoter, I want to fight Winky Wright," who has quite arguably one oft he best defences on boxing.  Williams needs Winky more than the other way around.
     
    Winky = bigger name, bigger pay-day, and TV date
     
    Wouldn't you fight Winky if you were williams, or fight bums and lose the reputation of the boxing pugists?
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    Williams is fighting Winky for the big name recognition, TV date, and money...no fighter says "promoter, I want to fight Winky Wright," who has quite arguably one oft he best defences on boxing.  Williams needs Winky more than the other way around.
     
    Winky = bigger name, bigger pay-day, and TV date
     
    Wouldn't you fight Winky if you were williams, or fight bums and lose the reputation of the boxing pugists?
     
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    Posted: Apr. 8, 2009 - 2:05 PM ET #38

    Winky has been one of the most avoided fighters for years, for the reason that he is hard to defeat.  Williams has been "avoided" for years cause he doesn't have a big following.  Big difference
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    Winky has been one of the most avoided fighters for years, for the reason that he is hard to defeat.  Williams has been "avoided" for years cause he doesn't have a big following.  Big difference
     
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    Posted: Apr. 8, 2009 - 2:07 PM ET #39

    I could be very wrong, and Williams could blast Winky the hell out of there.  Doubt it, but we have seen stranger things in boxing.  Assuming there is some big plus money on the UNDER, might play it for some change as well
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    I could be very wrong, and Williams could blast Winky the hell out of there.  Doubt it, but we have seen stranger things in boxing.  Assuming there is some big plus money on the UNDER, might play it for some change as well
     
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    Posted: Apr. 8, 2009 - 7:01 PM ET #40

    Williams is avoided because he is 6"1 and is a southpaw that weighs 154lbs
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    Williams is avoided because he is 6"1 and is a southpaw that weighs 154lbs
     
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    Posted: Apr. 9, 2009 - 1:02 AM ET #41

    Quote Originally Posted by NJDevils:

    Williams is avoided because he is 6"1 and is a southpaw that weighs 154lbs


    Agreed Cotto ducked him, Margarito didn't want a rematch he took 2 MILLION less to fight Mosley, and look what happened lol!

    Everyone forgets one thing that is impossible to shake off is RING RUST! I don't care who you are, if you take off of boxing for 2 years for truly NO reason, then your heart is NOT in boxing.

    People want to hold onto the Winky Wright of the past, his defense was good and he's a south paw.

    Well guess what he's more flat footed now and his defense is no where near what it once was!

    Paul has 3 inches in height, 8 inches in reach, and a south paw also! Oh and 4 fights in 2 years.

    Take Paul Williams laying what is a very generous line -190.

    Remember the words .. RING RUST!
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    Quote Originally Posted by NJDevils:

    Williams is avoided because he is 6"1 and is a southpaw that weighs 154lbs


    Agreed Cotto ducked him, Margarito didn't want a rematch he took 2 MILLION less to fight Mosley, and look what happened lol!

    Everyone forgets one thing that is impossible to shake off is RING RUST! I don't care who you are, if you take off of boxing for 2 years for truly NO reason, then your heart is NOT in boxing.

    People want to hold onto the Winky Wright of the past, his defense was good and he's a south paw.

    Well guess what he's more flat footed now and his defense is no where near what it once was!

    Paul has 3 inches in height, 8 inches in reach, and a south paw also! Oh and 4 fights in 2 years.

    Take Paul Williams laying what is a very generous line -190.

    Remember the words .. RING RUST!
     
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    Posted: Apr. 9, 2009 - 2:06 PM ET #42

    I think Williams is taller than 6'1".
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    I think Williams is taller than 6'1".
     
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    Posted: Apr. 10, 2009 - 1:33 PM ET #43

    6'2" is the maximum listed on official records (although they list him at 185cm 6'1" everywhere else), his thin physique and long reach give him a perception of appearing much taller. Remember also, many of his opponents are smaller. Verno is 5'8", Quintana is 5'10" (which is considered roughly average by many boxing stats), and Mitchell is also 5'7". Most taller fighters don't do well in those divisions, that's why the most common height for a real contender in that weight class is around 5'9" (Mosley's height).
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    6'2" is the maximum listed on official records (although they list him at 185cm 6'1" everywhere else), his thin physique and long reach give him a perception of appearing much taller. Remember also, many of his opponents are smaller. Verno is 5'8", Quintana is 5'10" (which is considered roughly average by many boxing stats), and Mitchell is also 5'7". Most taller fighters don't do well in those divisions, that's why the most common height for a real contender in that weight class is around 5'9" (Mosley's height).
     
     
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    Posted: Apr. 12, 2009 - 11:25 PM ET #44

    I hope some of the people who were on Winky changed their wagers. It was my biggest play in 3 years. All the extra insight and information was helpful here.
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    I hope some of the people who were on Winky changed their wagers. It was my biggest play in 3 years. All the extra insight and information was helpful here.
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