Futures: 2010-11: 2-6-1 -1.08U 2011-12: 0-1 -0.421U California to win the Pac-12 (+375):
November 23-17 +4.53 December 19-15-1 +2.60 January 17-20-1 -5.62 February 18-4 +13.70 March 5-4 +0.68 April 0-0 +0.00
Notes: -St. Bonaventure with a great win in Atlantic City, tough draw for the Bonnies with FSU as that is one team who can guard Nicholson -Speaking of the 'Noles, insane win for them in the ACC tournament -Vandy with a surprising upset, I still think UK is the best team in basketball though -Sparty is tough for me to handicap moving forward
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+15.89
Dogs 43-34 +6.49 Faves 34-19-2 +12.05 Over 2-2 -0.20 Under 0-0 +0.00 1st Half 2-2 -0.20 Halftimes 1-2 -1.15 Team Totals 0-1 -1.10 Buybacks: 0-0 +0.00
Futures: 2010-11: 2-6-1 -1.08U 2011-12: 0-1 -0.421U California to win the Pac-12 (+375):
November 23-17 +4.53 December 19-15-1 +2.60 January 17-20-1 -5.62 February 18-4 +13.70 March 5-4 +0.68 April 0-0 +0.00
Notes: -St. Bonaventure with a great win in Atlantic City, tough draw for the Bonnies with FSU as that is one team who can guard Nicholson -Speaking of the 'Noles, insane win for them in the ACC tournament -Vandy with a surprising upset, I still think UK is the best team in basketball though -Sparty is tough for me to handicap moving forward
Completely agree, I don't know if they can get by Wisconsin.
Obviously they're hot winning the SEC tournament, but the disastrous NCAA history makes me a little gunshy to back them for a deep run. I do think they could beat Syracuse if they meet in the Sweet 16
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Quote Originally Posted by Michfan15:
Vandy looks tough, can see them making a run.
Completely agree, I don't know if they can get by Wisconsin.
Obviously they're hot winning the SEC tournament, but the disastrous NCAA history makes me a little gunshy to back them for a deep run. I do think they could beat Syracuse if they meet in the Sweet 16
I like Montana potentially to cover +9. Wisconsin slowing it down allows for an even better chance for this to hit. I believe Montana has only lost 1 game in last two months. Seems like they have the size to play with Wisconsin as well.
I really like Vandy's team and can see them going far in this tournament, but for some reason, they just seem to get way up and look like world-beaters vs Kentucky. We will see. I think they just need to get past that 1st round and they will get that proverbial monkey off their backs.
2008 - lost to 13 seed Siena 2010 - lost to 13 seed Murray St 2011 - lost to 12 seed Richmond
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I like Montana potentially to cover +9. Wisconsin slowing it down allows for an even better chance for this to hit. I believe Montana has only lost 1 game in last two months. Seems like they have the size to play with Wisconsin as well.
I really like Vandy's team and can see them going far in this tournament, but for some reason, they just seem to get way up and look like world-beaters vs Kentucky. We will see. I think they just need to get past that 1st round and they will get that proverbial monkey off their backs.
2008 - lost to 13 seed Siena 2010 - lost to 13 seed Murray St 2011 - lost to 12 seed Richmond
GW, do you mess around with teasers or is everything you do straight up?
This year I've done two teasers, both on football. Haven't ever done one on basketball as I usually lay off if the line isn't where I want it. I will say that they are an interesting part of our industry that I need to explore a tad more though...
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Quote Originally Posted by pioneerpossee:
GW, do you mess around with teasers or is everything you do straight up?
This year I've done two teasers, both on football. Haven't ever done one on basketball as I usually lay off if the line isn't where I want it. I will say that they are an interesting part of our industry that I need to explore a tad more though...
GWarner , I like that you're also on USF, unfortunately I waited to long and got 2 1/2. Don't think it will matter though, I was tempted at the ML. Way too early to be risking too much on one game though, as it's a long grind ahead. The one game I've stepped it up on early is Murray St. CSU's road woes, away from altitude, and the Racer's getting a game in their backyard, had me chomping at the bit. Not only will their fans be there but Louisvilles big contingent of fans will be rooting for them also. Best time of the year, it's also going to be in the 60's here today, so out the door shortly to tee it up. BOLin the tournaments ahead.
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GWarner , I like that you're also on USF, unfortunately I waited to long and got 2 1/2. Don't think it will matter though, I was tempted at the ML. Way too early to be risking too much on one game though, as it's a long grind ahead. The one game I've stepped it up on early is Murray St. CSU's road woes, away from altitude, and the Racer's getting a game in their backyard, had me chomping at the bit. Not only will their fans be there but Louisvilles big contingent of fans will be rooting for them also. Best time of the year, it's also going to be in the 60's here today, so out the door shortly to tee it up. BOLin the tournaments ahead.
I like Montana potentially to cover +9. Wisconsin slowing it down allows for an even better chance for this to hit. I believe Montana has only lost 1 game in last two months. Seems like they have the size to play with Wisconsin as well.
I really like Vandy's team and can see them going far in this tournament, but for some reason, they just seem to get way up and look like world-beaters vs Kentucky. We will see. I think they just need to get past that 1st round and they will get that proverbial monkey off their backs.
2008 - lost to 13 seed Siena 2010 - lost to 13 seed Murray St 2011 - lost to 12 seed Richmond
Nine points in a game with Wisconsin is like 12 or 13 in a normal game so I agree with you there. I like this badgers team though
I think a lot of people are expecting a lot from this Vandy team after that win. I thought they were going to be really good preseason but lacked the toughness without Ezeli. They can shoot the 3 with the best teams in the land, but that's scary on a neutral site because one bad night and they're out. I don't think they can score consistently inside against any good interior defense and they need transition to get Jenkins open. If you can slow the pace against them and force them to execute in the half-court you can beat the Commodores.
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Quote Originally Posted by jusballin32:
I like Montana potentially to cover +9. Wisconsin slowing it down allows for an even better chance for this to hit. I believe Montana has only lost 1 game in last two months. Seems like they have the size to play with Wisconsin as well.
I really like Vandy's team and can see them going far in this tournament, but for some reason, they just seem to get way up and look like world-beaters vs Kentucky. We will see. I think they just need to get past that 1st round and they will get that proverbial monkey off their backs.
2008 - lost to 13 seed Siena 2010 - lost to 13 seed Murray St 2011 - lost to 12 seed Richmond
Nine points in a game with Wisconsin is like 12 or 13 in a normal game so I agree with you there. I like this badgers team though
I think a lot of people are expecting a lot from this Vandy team after that win. I thought they were going to be really good preseason but lacked the toughness without Ezeli. They can shoot the 3 with the best teams in the land, but that's scary on a neutral site because one bad night and they're out. I don't think they can score consistently inside against any good interior defense and they need transition to get Jenkins open. If you can slow the pace against them and force them to execute in the half-court you can beat the Commodores.
Nine points in a game with Wisconsin is like 12 or 13 in a normal game so I agree with you there. I like this badgers team though
I think a lot of people are expecting a lot from this Vandy team after that win. I thought they were going to be really good preseason but lacked the toughness without Ezeli. They can shoot the 3 with the best teams in the land, but that's scary on a neutral site because one bad night and they're out. I don't think they can score consistently inside against any good interior defense and they need transition to get Jenkins open. If you can slow the pace against them and force them to execute in the half-court you can beat the Commodores.
That what makes their #5 vs # 12 Harvard game so dangerous, for Vandy. Harvard only allows 54.8 points / game, is #329 in tempo, # 30 in defensive eff. and has already slowed down a team like FSU allowing for their 46-41 upset. Three recent first round outs, in a possible let down spot from beating Kentucky, The Doors might just be ripe for the upset. BOL
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Quote Originally Posted by GWarner27:
Nine points in a game with Wisconsin is like 12 or 13 in a normal game so I agree with you there. I like this badgers team though
I think a lot of people are expecting a lot from this Vandy team after that win. I thought they were going to be really good preseason but lacked the toughness without Ezeli. They can shoot the 3 with the best teams in the land, but that's scary on a neutral site because one bad night and they're out. I don't think they can score consistently inside against any good interior defense and they need transition to get Jenkins open. If you can slow the pace against them and force them to execute in the half-court you can beat the Commodores.
That what makes their #5 vs # 12 Harvard game so dangerous, for Vandy. Harvard only allows 54.8 points / game, is #329 in tempo, # 30 in defensive eff. and has already slowed down a team like FSU allowing for their 46-41 upset. Three recent first round outs, in a possible let down spot from beating Kentucky, The Doors might just be ripe for the upset. BOL
GWarner , I like that you're also on USF, unfortunately I waited to long and got 2 1/2. Don't think it will matter though, I was tempted at the ML. Way too early to be risking too much on one game though, as it's a long grind ahead. The one game I've stepped it up on early is Murray St. CSU's road woes, away from altitude, and the Racer's getting a game in their backyard, had me chomping at the bit. Not only will their fans be there but Louisvilles big contingent of fans will be rooting for them also. Best time of the year, it's also going to be in the 60's here today, so out the door shortly to tee it up. BOLin the tournaments ahead.
I will writeup all the plays tonight when I get home. Sorry to hear you got 2.5 as I think it will get back to 3, I just don't see it hitting 3.5 and I wanted a full possession.
Racers are the much better team in a home environment almost, I agree there. CSU is going to slow the game down i just don't think they can keep up with isaiah canaan
Hit em straight buddy, where you playing?
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Quote Originally Posted by 222bad:
GWarner , I like that you're also on USF, unfortunately I waited to long and got 2 1/2. Don't think it will matter though, I was tempted at the ML. Way too early to be risking too much on one game though, as it's a long grind ahead. The one game I've stepped it up on early is Murray St. CSU's road woes, away from altitude, and the Racer's getting a game in their backyard, had me chomping at the bit. Not only will their fans be there but Louisvilles big contingent of fans will be rooting for them also. Best time of the year, it's also going to be in the 60's here today, so out the door shortly to tee it up. BOLin the tournaments ahead.
I will writeup all the plays tonight when I get home. Sorry to hear you got 2.5 as I think it will get back to 3, I just don't see it hitting 3.5 and I wanted a full possession.
Racers are the much better team in a home environment almost, I agree there. CSU is going to slow the game down i just don't think they can keep up with isaiah canaan
I will writeup all the plays tonight when I get home. Sorry to hear you got 2.5 as I think it will get back to 3, I just don't see it hitting 3.5 and I wanted a full possession.
Racers are the much better team in a home environment almost, I agree there. CSU is going to slow the game down i just don't think they can keep up with isaiah canaan
Hit em straight buddy, where you playing?
Unfortunately now Warner, probably just going down to Laurel Lanes to hit balls, use the practice facility, and maybe play 9. We were going to go over to Montaup, but one guy couldn't get the day off, and the other just called to say his wife's got him working outside on the clean up he didn't do this fall. Just as well, as the practice facility is great, and my short game probably needs more work than anything else, right now.
If USF goes back to 3 I'll probably hit it again, seeing you like it so much. After my post #13 I checked my lines and hit Harvard + 6 1/2. Funny how when you like something that you think gives a play an edge, then you write it down, how it pushes you to pull the trigger. BOL
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Quote Originally Posted by GWarner27:
I will writeup all the plays tonight when I get home. Sorry to hear you got 2.5 as I think it will get back to 3, I just don't see it hitting 3.5 and I wanted a full possession.
Racers are the much better team in a home environment almost, I agree there. CSU is going to slow the game down i just don't think they can keep up with isaiah canaan
Hit em straight buddy, where you playing?
Unfortunately now Warner, probably just going down to Laurel Lanes to hit balls, use the practice facility, and maybe play 9. We were going to go over to Montaup, but one guy couldn't get the day off, and the other just called to say his wife's got him working outside on the clean up he didn't do this fall. Just as well, as the practice facility is great, and my short game probably needs more work than anything else, right now.
If USF goes back to 3 I'll probably hit it again, seeing you like it so much. After my post #13 I checked my lines and hit Harvard + 6 1/2. Funny how when you like something that you think gives a play an edge, then you write it down, how it pushes you to pull the trigger. BOL
preliminary was UK over Cuse with Mizzou and Kansas in the final four. I strongly doubt that will be the one I submit
current card:
South Florida +3 (-110) vs. California -I watched way too much Cal this season, really don't think they deserved a tournament bid. They are great in the open court against teams who don't play defense, unfortunately that is the opposite of USF. The Bulls will lock up on the Bears and they have a ton of length that Cal just hasn't seen in the Pac-12. USF is a great story making the tournament despite being picked in the bottom of the Big East, Cal is a disappointment losing to bad teams everytime they leave Berkeley. Hard to figure the crowd in Dayton, I would think it'll have more Cal fans, but USF is a bunch of warriors. Harper Kamp is too small to do anything inside against Fitzpatrick/Gilchrist and Allen Crabbe won't be able to get the open shots he's used to against the length of Rudd and Poland. That means it's up to Cobb and lunatic Gutierrez who simply can't get it done. Davidson +7 (-110) vs. Louisville -I was all over Louisville in the semis and championship of the Big East Tournament, however I'm jumping off here. They got an absolutely horrible draw. Davidson beat KU in Kansas City and led Duke for a lot of a game in Cameron Indoor Stadium. The Wildcats can shoot the three, which will work well against UL's zone defense. The Cards switched into man recently, but it's not what they've been playing all year so that's not a good sign. Davidson will shoot them out of the zone and into a press, which will cause some turnovers while also giving the 'Cats open shots when they break it. Gorgui Dieng is becoming a force inside with some awesome post moves, but Bob McKillop will trade a 3 for a 2 every time down the floor. Jake Cohen is the best player surrounded by shooters, not a good setup for the Cards. North Carolina State -2 (-110) vs. San Diego State
-The NC State Wolfpack is one of the hottest teams in the nation. They got a great draw in an early start with SDSU (9:40am local time for the Aztecs) who outperformed expectations big time this year in a fantastic coaching job by Steve Fisher. The Aztecs are guard-heavy and rely on the perimeter to get things done. NCSU is better than them back there, plus they'll be able to break the press SDSU wants to employ. C.J. Leslie will do whatever he wants in this game, if not his partners in Howell/Painter will. I think NCSU can go far in this tournament, helluva job by Mark Gottfried.
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Quote Originally Posted by Numero_Uno:
Any thoughts on your final four yet?
preliminary was UK over Cuse with Mizzou and Kansas in the final four. I strongly doubt that will be the one I submit
current card:
South Florida +3 (-110) vs. California -I watched way too much Cal this season, really don't think they deserved a tournament bid. They are great in the open court against teams who don't play defense, unfortunately that is the opposite of USF. The Bulls will lock up on the Bears and they have a ton of length that Cal just hasn't seen in the Pac-12. USF is a great story making the tournament despite being picked in the bottom of the Big East, Cal is a disappointment losing to bad teams everytime they leave Berkeley. Hard to figure the crowd in Dayton, I would think it'll have more Cal fans, but USF is a bunch of warriors. Harper Kamp is too small to do anything inside against Fitzpatrick/Gilchrist and Allen Crabbe won't be able to get the open shots he's used to against the length of Rudd and Poland. That means it's up to Cobb and lunatic Gutierrez who simply can't get it done. Davidson +7 (-110) vs. Louisville -I was all over Louisville in the semis and championship of the Big East Tournament, however I'm jumping off here. They got an absolutely horrible draw. Davidson beat KU in Kansas City and led Duke for a lot of a game in Cameron Indoor Stadium. The Wildcats can shoot the three, which will work well against UL's zone defense. The Cards switched into man recently, but it's not what they've been playing all year so that's not a good sign. Davidson will shoot them out of the zone and into a press, which will cause some turnovers while also giving the 'Cats open shots when they break it. Gorgui Dieng is becoming a force inside with some awesome post moves, but Bob McKillop will trade a 3 for a 2 every time down the floor. Jake Cohen is the best player surrounded by shooters, not a good setup for the Cards. North Carolina State -2 (-110) vs. San Diego State
-The NC State Wolfpack is one of the hottest teams in the nation. They got a great draw in an early start with SDSU (9:40am local time for the Aztecs) who outperformed expectations big time this year in a fantastic coaching job by Steve Fisher. The Aztecs are guard-heavy and rely on the perimeter to get things done. NCSU is better than them back there, plus they'll be able to break the press SDSU wants to employ. C.J. Leslie will do whatever he wants in this game, if not his partners in Howell/Painter will. I think NCSU can go far in this tournament, helluva job by Mark Gottfried.
searching for props, felt like I got some really good ones last year despite not doing well overall (Florida to win their region was an awful beat)...
add Florida State More Tournament Wins than Louisville (-115) -I have FSU in the Elite 8 and Louisville winning only 1 game. Odd to see both priced at -115 with a 3 and a 4 seed respectively.
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searching for props, felt like I got some really good ones last year despite not doing well overall (Florida to win their region was an awful beat)...
add Florida State More Tournament Wins than Louisville (-115) -I have FSU in the Elite 8 and Louisville winning only 1 game. Odd to see both priced at -115 with a 3 and a 4 seed respectively.
searching for props, felt like I got some really good ones last year despite not doing well overall (Florida to win their region was an awful beat)...
add Florida State More Tournament Wins than Louisville (-115) -I have FSU in the Elite 8 and Louisville winning only 1 game. Odd to see both priced at -115 with a 3 and a 4 seed respectively.
Not sure if you have looked at it yet, but one I really like is total ACC wins over 8. I am looking to lock it in myself and I only have FSU in the sweet 16.
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Quote Originally Posted by GWarner27:
searching for props, felt like I got some really good ones last year despite not doing well overall (Florida to win their region was an awful beat)...
add Florida State More Tournament Wins than Louisville (-115) -I have FSU in the Elite 8 and Louisville winning only 1 game. Odd to see both priced at -115 with a 3 and a 4 seed respectively.
Not sure if you have looked at it yet, but one I really like is total ACC wins over 8. I am looking to lock it in myself and I only have FSU in the sweet 16.
Not sure if you have looked at it yet, but one I really like is total ACC wins over 8. I am looking to lock it in myself and I only have FSU in the sweet 16.
i like it a lot, that and the Big XII o9.5 plus the B1G u10.5
Still looking at a bunch of stuff
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Quote Originally Posted by Numero_Uno:
Not sure if you have looked at it yet, but one I really like is total ACC wins over 8. I am looking to lock it in myself and I only have FSU in the sweet 16.
i like it a lot, that and the Big XII o9.5 plus the B1G u10.5
add Big XII OVER 9.5 Wins (-120) -Hate juice like this, but I have them winning 14 games right now and that's with Texas out in the first round. To get to 10 that probably means Iowa State doesn't beat UConn (13), KU doesn't get to the final four or beat UNC (11) and Baylor doesn't beat Duke. I could counter that with K-State beating Syracuse in the 2nd round, which could happen but is unlikely. Just think this number is way too low so I got involved.
current card:
Davidson +7 (-110) vs. Louisville
Saint Louis +3.5 (-110) vs. Memphis
North Carolina State -2 (-110) vs. San Diego State
Florida State More Tournament Wins than Louisville (-115) Big XII OVER 9.5 Wins (-120)
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add Big XII OVER 9.5 Wins (-120) -Hate juice like this, but I have them winning 14 games right now and that's with Texas out in the first round. To get to 10 that probably means Iowa State doesn't beat UConn (13), KU doesn't get to the final four or beat UNC (11) and Baylor doesn't beat Duke. I could counter that with K-State beating Syracuse in the 2nd round, which could happen but is unlikely. Just think this number is way too low so I got involved.
current card:
Davidson +7 (-110) vs. Louisville
Saint Louis +3.5 (-110) vs. Memphis
North Carolina State -2 (-110) vs. San Diego State
Florida State More Tournament Wins than Louisville (-115) Big XII OVER 9.5 Wins (-120)
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