Why is this line sitting at WISC -12. Oddsmakers think IDAHO ST is primed for a let down tonight if you ask me. Coming off a emotional loss at WISC. Prior to that they beat UTAH and got spanked by WASH ST and BYU. Thats 4 opponents right there that can take a toll on any mid-major school. What puzzles me why is this line not single digits? I think oddsmakers know that IDAHO ST gets spanked tonight and 12 is enough to get all kinds off money pouring in on them. Thoughts please...
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Why is this line sitting at WISC -12. Oddsmakers think IDAHO ST is primed for a let down tonight if you ask me. Coming off a emotional loss at WISC. Prior to that they beat UTAH and got spanked by WASH ST and BYU. Thats 4 opponents right there that can take a toll on any mid-major school. What puzzles me why is this line not single digits? I think oddsmakers know that IDAHO ST gets spanked tonight and 12 is enough to get all kinds off money pouring in on them. Thoughts please...
I'm starting to think that also bird. This looks like the Boise state play from last night. I'm going to check local papers and see if I can dig up any info into this game.
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I'm starting to think that also bird. This looks like the Boise state play from last night. I'm going to check local papers and see if I can dig up any info into this game.
I'm starting to think that also bird. This looks like the Boise state play from last night. I'm going to check local papers and see if I can dig up any info into this game.
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Quote Originally Posted by tmpeus78:
I'm starting to think that also bird. This looks like the Boise state play from last night. I'm going to check local papers and see if I can dig up any info into this game.
I live here in GB and went to UWGB and this line seems crazy, but the Phoenix are great at home. If anything, the under is the play. Unless ISU plays no D at all this game should have 120 points max, whether or not it is a rout.
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I live here in GB and went to UWGB and this line seems crazy, but the Phoenix are great at home. If anything, the under is the play. Unless ISU plays no D at all this game should have 120 points max, whether or not it is a rout.
I dont know how much money could be pouring in on a Idaho St team.....People know about Wisc GB but I doubt the random would throw money down on Idaho St
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I dont know how much money could be pouring in on a Idaho St team.....People know about Wisc GB but I doubt the random would throw money down on Idaho St
Ryan Tillema, UWGB's leading scorer, returns tonight. Still, he's not expected to play more than 10 minutes or so. This is the line that jumped out at me today, considering that Idaho St. almost took out Wiscy. As a result, it's a no-play.
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Ryan Tillema, UWGB's leading scorer, returns tonight. Still, he's not expected to play more than 10 minutes or so. This is the line that jumped out at me today, considering that Idaho St. almost took out Wiscy. As a result, it's a no-play.
How quickly things can change in college basketball. After struggling the previous week, 6-foot-7 junior forward James Eayrs played a critical role in the team's two Horizon League victories over Detroit and Wright State. Eayrs had nine points and five rebounds in 14 minutes against the Titans, scoring all of his points in the last 5-plus minutes. On Saturday, the junior college transfer from Roseville, Minn., was 4 for 4 from three-point distance and contributed 14 points and eight rebounds in the Panthers' 66-59 victory over the Raiders. "I wish he would have gone back inside," Wright State coach Brad Brownell said. "I was trying to explain to our guys how a guy this big has such good footwork and basketball IQ."
WHO'S NOT
This comes with a caveat. Senior guard Avery Smith is not hot with his shooting touch, sinking just one of 10 shots against Detroit and two of five vs. Wright State. And he still is turning the ball over too frequently, with seven turnovers in those two games. But he is contributing in other areas and starting to be more comfortable with running the offense. Smith had five points, five rebounds and seven assists against Detroit, and he had nine points, eight rebounds and four assists against Wright State. And as the former Milwaukee Washington player pointed out after the game Saturday, he is not focusing on his shooting right now. "Tell the truth," Panthers coach Rob Jeter said as he turned toward Smith during the postgame news conference. "I yell at you when you pass and I yell at you when you shoot."
NOTEBOOK
FOR THE RECORD: 5-4, 2-0 Horizon League (3-1 home, 2-0 neutral site, 0-3 road)
GRATEFUL TO BE BACK: Senior guard Ricky Franklin returned to the lineup last week after being suspended for the Wisconsin game after a drunken driving arrest. The incident occurred in the early morning hours on Nov. 27 in Milwaukee.
Franklin lost his starting spot to Smith but came off the bench in both league games. Franklin shot just 2 for 9 but did have a total of six assists in the two games.
"I made a serious mistake, and I'm just glad to see them support me and be back with my teammates," Franklin said. "I've been talking to my teammates and the coaching staff and trying to do what I can to get everything back right and gain everybody's trust back.
"Everybody's been positive, and I'm looking forward to the rest of the season."
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Weekly Panthers report
Posted: Dec. 7, 2008
WHO'S HOT
How quickly things can change in college basketball. After struggling the previous week, 6-foot-7 junior forward James Eayrs played a critical role in the team's two Horizon League victories over Detroit and Wright State. Eayrs had nine points and five rebounds in 14 minutes against the Titans, scoring all of his points in the last 5-plus minutes. On Saturday, the junior college transfer from Roseville, Minn., was 4 for 4 from three-point distance and contributed 14 points and eight rebounds in the Panthers' 66-59 victory over the Raiders. "I wish he would have gone back inside," Wright State coach Brad Brownell said. "I was trying to explain to our guys how a guy this big has such good footwork and basketball IQ."
WHO'S NOT
This comes with a caveat. Senior guard Avery Smith is not hot with his shooting touch, sinking just one of 10 shots against Detroit and two of five vs. Wright State. And he still is turning the ball over too frequently, with seven turnovers in those two games. But he is contributing in other areas and starting to be more comfortable with running the offense. Smith had five points, five rebounds and seven assists against Detroit, and he had nine points, eight rebounds and four assists against Wright State. And as the former Milwaukee Washington player pointed out after the game Saturday, he is not focusing on his shooting right now. "Tell the truth," Panthers coach Rob Jeter said as he turned toward Smith during the postgame news conference. "I yell at you when you pass and I yell at you when you shoot."
NOTEBOOK
FOR THE RECORD: 5-4, 2-0 Horizon League (3-1 home, 2-0 neutral site, 0-3 road)
GRATEFUL TO BE BACK: Senior guard Ricky Franklin returned to the lineup last week after being suspended for the Wisconsin game after a drunken driving arrest. The incident occurred in the early morning hours on Nov. 27 in Milwaukee.
Franklin lost his starting spot to Smith but came off the bench in both league games. Franklin shot just 2 for 9 but did have a total of six assists in the two games.
"I made a serious mistake, and I'm just glad to see them support me and be back with my teammates," Franklin said. "I've been talking to my teammates and the coaching staff and trying to do what I can to get everything back right and gain everybody's trust back.
"Everybody's been positive, and I'm looking forward to the rest of the season."
I dont know how much money could be pouring in on a Idaho St team.....People know about Wisc GB but I doubt the random would throw money down on Idaho St
I think you would be surprised. You got a team that just lost by 2 to WISC and beat UTAH by 4 thats enough to make anyone pound IDAHO ST.
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Quote Originally Posted by Papi_4_MVP:
I dont know how much money could be pouring in on a Idaho St team.....People know about Wisc GB but I doubt the random would throw money down on Idaho St
I think you would be surprised. You got a team that just lost by 2 to WISC and beat UTAH by 4 thats enough to make anyone pound IDAHO ST.
Tillema's return comes at a good time because it adds another shooting threat against an Idaho State team that played predominantly a zone defense that gave Wisconsin trouble in the Badgers' 60-58 win over the Bengals at the Kohl Center on Tuesday. Tillema last season ranked seventh in the Horizon League in 3-point percentage (.445) and seventh in overall field goal percentage (.513).
The time off doesn't appear to have affected Tillema's shot. He nailed several 3-pointers during a five-on-five drill in practice Wednesday.
"He's got that shot still," Schachtner said. "So it's going to be great to have him back."
In Tillema's absence, the Phoenix has played some of its best defense in Kowalczyk's seven-year tenure as coach. It held Horizon League opponents Wright State and Detroit each to 46 points in games last week and has given up just 55.8 points per game and held teams to just 37.9 percent shooting during its current five-game winning streak.
Defense has never been the best part of Tillema's game in part because he doesn't have the quickness that some of UWGB's other perimeter players possess, but Kowalczyk said he's not concerned that the team's defense will suffer upon Tillema's return.
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Tillema's return comes at a good time because it adds another shooting threat against an Idaho State team that played predominantly a zone defense that gave Wisconsin trouble in the Badgers' 60-58 win over the Bengals at the Kohl Center on Tuesday. Tillema last season ranked seventh in the Horizon League in 3-point percentage (.445) and seventh in overall field goal percentage (.513).
The time off doesn't appear to have affected Tillema's shot. He nailed several 3-pointers during a five-on-five drill in practice Wednesday.
"He's got that shot still," Schachtner said. "So it's going to be great to have him back."
In Tillema's absence, the Phoenix has played some of its best defense in Kowalczyk's seven-year tenure as coach. It held Horizon League opponents Wright State and Detroit each to 46 points in games last week and has given up just 55.8 points per game and held teams to just 37.9 percent shooting during its current five-game winning streak.
Defense has never been the best part of Tillema's game in part because he doesn't have the quickness that some of UWGB's other perimeter players possess, but Kowalczyk said he's not concerned that the team's defense will suffer upon Tillema's return.
The Phoenix is looking for its sixth straight victory after starting 0-2. It would be the team's longest winning streak since it won six in a row during the 2004-05 season. The longest winning streak in the Kowalczyk era is nine during the 2003-04 season. A win would also give the Phoenix a 6-2 start for the second straight season and match the best eight-game start under Kowalczyk. … The Phoenix continues to lead the nation in free-throw percentage (.863), while senior forward Mike Schachtner ranks second in the nation (.971). Schachtner is expected to start for the first time in four games. Kowalczyk plans to bring junior forward Chop Tang off the bench. Tang has struggled in his last two outings, missing all 13 of his shots combined against Wright State and Detroit.
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Some more info:
The Phoenix is looking for its sixth straight victory after starting 0-2. It would be the team's longest winning streak since it won six in a row during the 2004-05 season. The longest winning streak in the Kowalczyk era is nine during the 2003-04 season. A win would also give the Phoenix a 6-2 start for the second straight season and match the best eight-game start under Kowalczyk. … The Phoenix continues to lead the nation in free-throw percentage (.863), while senior forward Mike Schachtner ranks second in the nation (.971). Schachtner is expected to start for the first time in four games. Kowalczyk plans to bring junior forward Chop Tang off the bench. Tang has struggled in his last two outings, missing all 13 of his shots combined against Wright State and Detroit.
The Phoenix is looking for its sixth straight victory after starting 0-2. It would be the team's longest winning streak since it won six in a row during the 2004-05 season. The longest winning streak in the Kowalczyk era is nine during the 2003-04 season. A win would also give the Phoenix a 6-2 start for the second straight season and match the best eight-game start under Kowalczyk. … The Phoenix continues to lead the nation in free-throw percentage (.863), while senior forward Mike Schachtner ranks second in the nation (.971). Schachtner is expected to start for the first time in four games. Kowalczyk plans to bring junior forward Chop Tang off the bench. Tang has struggled in his last two outings, missing all 13 of his shots combined against Wright State and Detroit.
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Quote Originally Posted by tmpeus78:
Some more info:
The Phoenix is looking for its sixth straight victory after starting 0-2. It would be the team's longest winning streak since it won six in a row during the 2004-05 season. The longest winning streak in the Kowalczyk era is nine during the 2003-04 season. A win would also give the Phoenix a 6-2 start for the second straight season and match the best eight-game start under Kowalczyk. … The Phoenix continues to lead the nation in free-throw percentage (.863), while senior forward Mike Schachtner ranks second in the nation (.971). Schachtner is expected to start for the first time in four games. Kowalczyk plans to bring junior forward Chop Tang off the bench. Tang has struggled in his last two outings, missing all 13 of his shots combined against Wright State and Detroit.
I'm starting to think that also bird. This looks like the Boise state play from last night. I'm going to check local papers and see if I can dig up any info into this game.
Boise St can suck my
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Quote Originally Posted by tmpeus78:
I'm starting to think that also bird. This looks like the Boise state play from last night. I'm going to check local papers and see if I can dig up any info into this game.
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I'm going to check local papers and see if I can dig up any info into this game.
sorry guys
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