maybe we can all try and assist each other im seeing trends of home teams lines of =3 or better vegas moving em to the dog or fav been workin at 85% more minds better results but i think im on to something lets put our heads together and break the bank
on fan match the last column says thrill score could you explain thanks
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Quote Originally Posted by poolman11:
maybe we can all try and assist each other im seeing trends of home teams lines of =3 or better vegas moving em to the dog or fav been workin at 85% more minds better results but i think im on to something lets put our heads together and break the bank
on fan match the last column says thrill score could you explain thanks
After reading thru this thread there seems to be confusion. All that is being said here is.....
If Kenpom computers have Team A winning by 3 (-3) and the Vegas line comes out at Team B -2, over the long run, it is better to take Team B at -2 since there is probably a reason that we are unaware of that favors Team B. It is merely a way to keep you from being a square bettor. However, keep in mind that squares win sometimes too.
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After reading thru this thread there seems to be confusion. All that is being said here is.....
If Kenpom computers have Team A winning by 3 (-3) and the Vegas line comes out at Team B -2, over the long run, it is better to take Team B at -2 since there is probably a reason that we are unaware of that favors Team B. It is merely a way to keep you from being a square bettor. However, keep in mind that squares win sometimes too.
here when the OPENING LINE POST ONLY not late when vegas adjust it by volume etc ...... compare a home team fav close to pk to max 3 compare kenpom line evaluate if vegas moves line you bet that the experts are correct simply close your mind let go of the wheel for once and let the best in the biz work for you !!!!!!!!
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here when the OPENING LINE POST ONLY not late when vegas adjust it by volume etc ...... compare a home team fav close to pk to max 3 compare kenpom line evaluate if vegas moves line you bet that the experts are correct simply close your mind let go of the wheel for once and let the best in the biz work for you !!!!!!!!
here when the OPENING LINE POST ONLY not late when vegas adjust it by volume etc ...... compare a home team fav close to pk to max 3 compare kenpom line evaluate if vegas moves line you bet that the experts are correct simply close your mind let go of the wheel for once and let the best in the biz work for you !!!!!!!!
u bet that the experts are correct, yet you are betting on UCLA? To me, your betting trends have nothing to do with Kenpom. You're just betting on them cause all the line movement is hinting that they they will win.
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Quote Originally Posted by poolman11:
here when the OPENING LINE POST ONLY not late when vegas adjust it by volume etc ...... compare a home team fav close to pk to max 3 compare kenpom line evaluate if vegas moves line you bet that the experts are correct simply close your mind let go of the wheel for once and let the best in the biz work for you !!!!!!!!
u bet that the experts are correct, yet you are betting on UCLA? To me, your betting trends have nothing to do with Kenpom. You're just betting on them cause all the line movement is hinting that they they will win.
correct brother im only opening a thread hoping that we can dial this in and we all figure a better way to win it 90% accurate so far lets hope its for real
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correct brother im only opening a thread hoping that we can dial this in and we all figure a better way to win it 90% accurate so far lets hope its for real
After reading thru this thread there seems to be confusion. All that is being said here is.....
If Kenpom computers have Team A winning by 3 (-3) and the Vegas line comes out at Team B -2, over the long run, it is better to take Team B at -2 since there is probably a reason that we are unaware of that favors Team B. It is merely a way to keep you from being a square bettor. However, keep in mind that squares win sometimes too.
Maybe a dumb question, what exactly is a 'square' bettor??
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Quote Originally Posted by kkirby99:
After reading thru this thread there seems to be confusion. All that is being said here is.....
If Kenpom computers have Team A winning by 3 (-3) and the Vegas line comes out at Team B -2, over the long run, it is better to take Team B at -2 since there is probably a reason that we are unaware of that favors Team B. It is merely a way to keep you from being a square bettor. However, keep in mind that squares win sometimes too.
Maybe a dumb question, what exactly is a 'square' bettor??
Uconn off a big win at Louisville -3.5? take cards
ND -4 at WVU? really,takeWVU
This happens all the time, fade the dumb public, take the home team, and be on the side vegas needs...the xamples are endless, and for this reason Cal will win tonight and public will lose...LOL
you want to look at the line, see why it smells, then take usually the home team giving or getting 3 points... i see it in the Big Ten alot
Lines tell a story, the public is baited....go opposite, it take large stones to do this, but you can win with sharp bettors this way
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try the simple smell test
Oh st a pickem at purde? take purdue
Uconn off a big win at Louisville -3.5? take cards
ND -4 at WVU? really,takeWVU
This happens all the time, fade the dumb public, take the home team, and be on the side vegas needs...the xamples are endless, and for this reason Cal will win tonight and public will lose...LOL
you want to look at the line, see why it smells, then take usually the home team giving or getting 3 points... i see it in the Big Ten alot
Lines tell a story, the public is baited....go opposite, it take large stones to do this, but you can win with sharp bettors this way
I think this "system" is useless, honestly. Now u say the edge goes to the home team (which is obvious), so why would u take UCLA???
You keep asking him questions and he says lets use the forum for advice yet he still tends to avoid any question you ask him. You have tried and tried to ask why he is taking UCLA after his 'SYSTEM' called for Cal. I jjust do not get it as I'm sure you don't either.
On a side note, does it not seem EVERYONE is coming up with a system? Kines system has been quite accurate and since then it seems a lot of folks want to come out with their own system that is very, very close to the way Kine uses his system. Some of it is laughable. Sorry, carry on fellas.
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Quote Originally Posted by SharpBettor1:
I think this "system" is useless, honestly. Now u say the edge goes to the home team (which is obvious), so why would u take UCLA???
You keep asking him questions and he says lets use the forum for advice yet he still tends to avoid any question you ask him. You have tried and tried to ask why he is taking UCLA after his 'SYSTEM' called for Cal. I jjust do not get it as I'm sure you don't either.
On a side note, does it not seem EVERYONE is coming up with a system? Kines system has been quite accurate and since then it seems a lot of folks want to come out with their own system that is very, very close to the way Kine uses his system. Some of it is laughable. Sorry, carry on fellas.
You would take UCLA tonight because Kenpom's got Cal -2 while the line opened at PK. Forget about the line movements. Why did the Vegas line open at PK when the computers said -2? Take Ucla PK or -1 which I did.
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You would take UCLA tonight because Kenpom's got Cal -2 while the line opened at PK. Forget about the line movements. Why did the Vegas line open at PK when the computers said -2? Take Ucla PK or -1 which I did.
try this criteria a 3 point home favorite at home openong line only not after it moves by etc........ like most will . fanmatch kenpom see what it predicts score evalute to opening vegas line plus or minus ive been using this criteria only now the only losses was ucla overtime providence overtime both losses all others were winners aka mich st -3 kenpom had illinios -1 i went with vegas missippi st pk kenpom miss-3 st won its by far no system im just asking for help to develop an edge thx
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try this criteria a 3 point home favorite at home openong line only not after it moves by etc........ like most will . fanmatch kenpom see what it predicts score evalute to opening vegas line plus or minus ive been using this criteria only now the only losses was ucla overtime providence overtime both losses all others were winners aka mich st -3 kenpom had illinios -1 i went with vegas missippi st pk kenpom miss-3 st won its by far no system im just asking for help to develop an edge thx
its opposite consensus/public...line set begging people to take ucla
Look for smelly lines, go with house and home teams often GL
I agree that this Kenpom thing has no advantage whatsoever. Gambling would be too easy if all u had to do was click on 2 buttons and u have your winner.
As for the smelly lines, it didn't work when I bet on Stanford this past Thursday when they played UCLA. It had the exact same lines and line movement as the CAL-Ucla gm. I guess if u look at all the smelly lines, I'm sure 50% hit and 50% don't
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Quote Originally Posted by Wizard41:
calwins
its not opposite kenpom blindly
its opposite consensus/public...line set begging people to take ucla
Look for smelly lines, go with house and home teams often GL
I agree that this Kenpom thing has no advantage whatsoever. Gambling would be too easy if all u had to do was click on 2 buttons and u have your winner.
As for the smelly lines, it didn't work when I bet on Stanford this past Thursday when they played UCLA. It had the exact same lines and line movement as the CAL-Ucla gm. I guess if u look at all the smelly lines, I'm sure 50% hit and 50% don't
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