Quote Originally Posted by Ryoshiii: I typically do better in later games Adding Utep/Jax O136.5 (130) 30 Units Arizona -6.5 10 Units Princeton -6.5 5 Units
Wow finally +30 Units Winner
If the vig is -130 how is that a +30 unit winner
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Quote Originally Posted by Ryoshiii:
Quote Originally Posted by Ryoshiii: I typically do better in later games Adding Utep/Jax O136.5 (130) 30 Units Arizona -6.5 10 Units Princeton -6.5 5 Units
Quote Originally Posted by Ryoshiii: Quote Originally Posted by Ryoshiii: I typically do better in later games Adding Utep/Jax O136.5 (130) 30 Units Arizona -6.5 10 Units Princeton -6.5 5 Units Wow finally +30 Units Winner If the vig is -130 how is that a +30 unit winner
Its not!!! it just a initial $ bet , of course you dont win that +30, have to deduct juice -130 Jeez come on man
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Quote Originally Posted by zircon:
Quote Originally Posted by Ryoshiii: Quote Originally Posted by Ryoshiii: I typically do better in later games Adding Utep/Jax O136.5 (130) 30 Units Arizona -6.5 10 Units Princeton -6.5 5 Units Wow finally +30 Units Winner If the vig is -130 how is that a +30 unit winner
Its not!!! it just a initial $ bet , of course you dont win that +30, have to deduct juice -130 Jeez come on man
Quote Originally Posted by zircon: Quote Originally Posted by Ryoshiii: Quote Originally Posted by Ryoshiii: I typically do better in later games Adding Utep/Jax O136.5 (130) 30 Units Arizona -6.5 10 Units Princeton -6.5 5 Units Wow finally +30 Units Winner If the vig is -130 how is that a +30 unit winner Its not!!! it just a initial $ bet , of course you dont win that +30, have to deduct juice -130 Jeez come on man
Of course. I know that. Which is why I am questioning your reporting +15 unit winner and +30 unit winners when that is not accurate. Your 15 unit bet would be only a +11.11 unit winner not a +15 unit winner.
It should be reported that way for accuracy.
"@zircon, I appreciate you brother! You're a GOOD dude, anyone can see that!" -Wizerg
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Quote Originally Posted by Ryoshiii:
Quote Originally Posted by zircon: Quote Originally Posted by Ryoshiii: Quote Originally Posted by Ryoshiii: I typically do better in later games Adding Utep/Jax O136.5 (130) 30 Units Arizona -6.5 10 Units Princeton -6.5 5 Units Wow finally +30 Units Winner If the vig is -130 how is that a +30 unit winner Its not!!! it just a initial $ bet , of course you dont win that +30, have to deduct juice -130 Jeez come on man
Of course. I know that. Which is why I am questioning your reporting +15 unit winner and +30 unit winners when that is not accurate. Your 15 unit bet would be only a +11.11 unit winner not a +15 unit winner.
Quote Originally Posted by Ryoshiii: Quote Originally Posted by zircon: Quote Originally Posted by Ryoshiii: Quote Originally Posted by Ryoshiii: I typically do better in later games Adding Utep/Jax O136.5 (130) 30 Units Arizona -6.5 10 Units Princeton -6.5 5 Units Wow finally +30 Units Winner If the vig is -130 how is that a +30 unit winner Its not!!! it just a initial $ bet , of course you dont win that +30, have to deduct juice -130 Jeez come on man Of course. I know that. Which is why I am questioning your reporting +15 unit winner and +30 unit winners when that is not accurate. Your 15 unit bet would be only a +11.11 unit winner not a +15 unit winner. It should be reported that way for accuracy.
If you want to disect yes you are correct, Every knowledgeable bettors know this. I deduct juice when its all said and done. I NEVER add to my YTD without deducting juice. I just say it on here as Initial start-up bet of example +10 units (-120), NEVER said oh I won full 100% +10 Units lol...
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Quote Originally Posted by zircon:
Quote Originally Posted by Ryoshiii: Quote Originally Posted by zircon: Quote Originally Posted by Ryoshiii: Quote Originally Posted by Ryoshiii: I typically do better in later games Adding Utep/Jax O136.5 (130) 30 Units Arizona -6.5 10 Units Princeton -6.5 5 Units Wow finally +30 Units Winner If the vig is -130 how is that a +30 unit winner Its not!!! it just a initial $ bet , of course you dont win that +30, have to deduct juice -130 Jeez come on man Of course. I know that. Which is why I am questioning your reporting +15 unit winner and +30 unit winners when that is not accurate. Your 15 unit bet would be only a +11.11 unit winner not a +15 unit winner. It should be reported that way for accuracy.
If you want to disect yes you are correct, Every knowledgeable bettors know this. I deduct juice when its all said and done. I NEVER add to my YTD without deducting juice. I just say it on here as Initial start-up bet of example +10 units (-120), NEVER said oh I won full 100% +10 Units lol...
Quote Originally Posted by zircon: Quote Originally Posted by Ryoshiii: Quote Originally Posted by zircon: Quote Originally Posted by Ryoshiii: Quote Originally Posted by Ryoshiii: I typically do better in later games Adding Utep/Jax O136.5 (130) 30 Units Arizona -6.5 10 Units Princeton -6.5 5 Units Wow finally +30 Units Winner If the vig is -130 how is that a +30 unit winner Its not!!! it just a initial $ bet , of course you dont win that +30, have to deduct juice -130 Jeez come on man Of course. I know that. Which is why I am questioning your reporting +15 unit winner and +30 unit winners when that is not accurate. Your 15 unit bet would be only a +11.11 unit winner not a +15 unit winner. It should be reported that way for accuracy. If you want to disect yes you are correct, Every knowledgeable bettors know this. I deduct juice when its all said and done. I NEVER add to my YTD without deducting juice
That's fair, but there is a slight problem which leads to misperception to everyone on the forum otherthan yourself
As a fictitious example to illustrate my point,
you might post 3 x "20unit bets" next week on the same day, each at -130 vig, and all 3 win!!! Fantastic!!!
But, to anyone and everyone reading your comments following your wins, the immediate perception is that you just scored +60 total units! which is awesome, but the reality is it amounts to only +46.15 units, not the +60 units everyone would perceive you won from your statements
See what I mean? It's probably not intentionally misleading, but it still is misleading.
This is because everyone on the forum (except one) scores their wins as +1.00 unit and their losses as whatever the listed vig is. Known as the conventional method of keeping score.
You choose do use the unconventional method (although technically accurate!) of laying a unit to win a lesser amount due to the vig.
Since nobody else does it that way, your reported results are "unintentionally" misleading
"@zircon, I appreciate you brother! You're a GOOD dude, anyone can see that!" -Wizerg
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Quote Originally Posted by Ryoshiii:
Quote Originally Posted by zircon: Quote Originally Posted by Ryoshiii: Quote Originally Posted by zircon: Quote Originally Posted by Ryoshiii: Quote Originally Posted by Ryoshiii: I typically do better in later games Adding Utep/Jax O136.5 (130) 30 Units Arizona -6.5 10 Units Princeton -6.5 5 Units Wow finally +30 Units Winner If the vig is -130 how is that a +30 unit winner Its not!!! it just a initial $ bet , of course you dont win that +30, have to deduct juice -130 Jeez come on man Of course. I know that. Which is why I am questioning your reporting +15 unit winner and +30 unit winners when that is not accurate. Your 15 unit bet would be only a +11.11 unit winner not a +15 unit winner. It should be reported that way for accuracy. If you want to disect yes you are correct, Every knowledgeable bettors know this. I deduct juice when its all said and done. I NEVER add to my YTD without deducting juice
That's fair, but there is a slight problem which leads to misperception to everyone on the forum otherthan yourself
As a fictitious example to illustrate my point,
you might post 3 x "20unit bets" next week on the same day, each at -130 vig, and all 3 win!!! Fantastic!!!
But, to anyone and everyone reading your comments following your wins, the immediate perception is that you just scored +60 total units! which is awesome, but the reality is it amounts to only +46.15 units, not the +60 units everyone would perceive you won from your statements
See what I mean? It's probably not intentionally misleading, but it still is misleading.
This is because everyone on the forum (except one) scores their wins as +1.00 unit and their losses as whatever the listed vig is. Known as the conventional method of keeping score.
You choose do use the unconventional method (although technically accurate!) of laying a unit to win a lesser amount due to the vig.
Since nobody else does it that way, your reported results are "unintentionally" misleading
Quote Originally Posted by Illwildcats: Hahahaha where the trolls at now!??? Those fukk boys should know my YTD Glowing Units
I have gone through your entire thread today after a busy day and sorry but you are nothing but a LOSER.. you lost a little respect you gathered from me recently. I believe I am not the troll but you and your faithful and blind followers are biggest trolls on this forum.. Mods pls take a note of that..
Your original plays (without cashout and live plays) are losing big time in every play that you are making. You have no system no technicalities in playing those games. STOP FOOLING AROUND WITH HAPLESS BETTORS WHO LIKE TO FOLLOW YOUR PICKS BUT THEY HAVE NOTHING TO GAIN.
You are losing 30 units plays so frequently and you boast about having 200 units!.. you can have that in 4 games of 50 units of your nuclear bomb plays YOU keep bragging about, so what? a 4-0 record makes you a LONG TIME SKILLED BETTOR???.. NEVER.. only a fool can embrace you..
Abuse me with cruelest words as you always do on your haters but you are nothing but a LOST CASE WITH MISERABLE DAY EVERY SINGLE DAY COVERING UP YOUR LOSSES CHASING GAMES AND LIVE BETTING. I am ready for your TROLLING ABUSIVE WORDS INCLUDING THOSE FROM YOUR DIE-HARD FOLLOWERS.. MODS mind you, I haven't used a single obscene words in messages yet but a nasty reply from you can lead to a lot..
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Quote Originally Posted by Ryoshiii:
Quote Originally Posted by Illwildcats: Hahahaha where the trolls at now!??? Those fukk boys should know my YTD Glowing Units
I have gone through your entire thread today after a busy day and sorry but you are nothing but a LOSER.. you lost a little respect you gathered from me recently. I believe I am not the troll but you and your faithful and blind followers are biggest trolls on this forum.. Mods pls take a note of that..
Your original plays (without cashout and live plays) are losing big time in every play that you are making. You have no system no technicalities in playing those games. STOP FOOLING AROUND WITH HAPLESS BETTORS WHO LIKE TO FOLLOW YOUR PICKS BUT THEY HAVE NOTHING TO GAIN.
You are losing 30 units plays so frequently and you boast about having 200 units!.. you can have that in 4 games of 50 units of your nuclear bomb plays YOU keep bragging about, so what? a 4-0 record makes you a LONG TIME SKILLED BETTOR???.. NEVER.. only a fool can embrace you..
Abuse me with cruelest words as you always do on your haters but you are nothing but a LOST CASE WITH MISERABLE DAY EVERY SINGLE DAY COVERING UP YOUR LOSSES CHASING GAMES AND LIVE BETTING. I am ready for your TROLLING ABUSIVE WORDS INCLUDING THOSE FROM YOUR DIE-HARD FOLLOWERS.. MODS mind you, I haven't used a single obscene words in messages yet but a nasty reply from you can lead to a lot..
Quote Originally Posted by Illwildcats: Hahahaha where the trolls at now!??? Those fukk boys should know my YTD Glowing Units
I have gone through your entire thread today after a busy day and sorry but you are nothing but a LOSER.. you lost a little respect you gathered from me recently. I believe I am not the troll but you and your faithful and blind followers are biggest trolls on this forum.. Mods pls take a note of that..
Your original plays (without cashout and live plays) are losing big time in every play that you are making. You have no system no technicalities in playing those games. STOP FOOLING AROUND WITH HAPLESS BETTORS WHO LIKE TO FOLLOW YOUR PICKS BUT THEY HAVE NOTHING TO GAIN.
You are losing 30 units plays so frequently and you boast about having 200 units!.. you can have that in 4 games of 50 units of your nuclear bomb plays YOU keep bragging about, so what? a 4-0 record makes you a LONG TIME SKILLED BETTOR???.. NEVER.. only a fool can embrace you..
Abuse me with cruelest words as you always do on your haters but you are nothing but a LOST CASE WITH MISERABLE DAY EVERY SINGLE DAY COVERING UP YOUR LOSSES CHASING GAMES AND LIVE BETTING. I am ready for your TROLLING ABUSIVE WORDS INCLUDING THOSE FROM YOUR DIE-HARD FOLLOWERS.. MODS mind you, I haven't used a single obscene words in messages yet but a nasty reply from you can lead to a lot..
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Quote Originally Posted by Ryoshiii:
Quote Originally Posted by Illwildcats: Hahahaha where the trolls at now!??? Those fukk boys should know my YTD Glowing Units
I have gone through your entire thread today after a busy day and sorry but you are nothing but a LOSER.. you lost a little respect you gathered from me recently. I believe I am not the troll but you and your faithful and blind followers are biggest trolls on this forum.. Mods pls take a note of that..
Your original plays (without cashout and live plays) are losing big time in every play that you are making. You have no system no technicalities in playing those games. STOP FOOLING AROUND WITH HAPLESS BETTORS WHO LIKE TO FOLLOW YOUR PICKS BUT THEY HAVE NOTHING TO GAIN.
You are losing 30 units plays so frequently and you boast about having 200 units!.. you can have that in 4 games of 50 units of your nuclear bomb plays YOU keep bragging about, so what? a 4-0 record makes you a LONG TIME SKILLED BETTOR???.. NEVER.. only a fool can embrace you..
Abuse me with cruelest words as you always do on your haters but you are nothing but a LOST CASE WITH MISERABLE DAY EVERY SINGLE DAY COVERING UP YOUR LOSSES CHASING GAMES AND LIVE BETTING. I am ready for your TROLLING ABUSIVE WORDS INCLUDING THOSE FROM YOUR DIE-HARD FOLLOWERS.. MODS mind you, I haven't used a single obscene words in messages yet but a nasty reply from you can lead to a lot..
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