What do you think about Youngstown St +9? thanks and BOL
I cant believe Bama St covered...I thought for sure I had a winner when Texas Southern was up by 18 (I think?) anyway...
Initial thought was that the line seemed high. Tough to cover that sort of # with an ugly offense like Wisconsin MKE. But getting into the match-up, Youngstown hit 9 three's that first game against a usually good MKE three-point defense. If they can duplicate that on the road, then it'll have a chance. If they can't, then I see MKE getting revenge. MKE already proved to be worth the revenge angle once this year (lost at Butler by 4, won at home by 11).
GL
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Quote Originally Posted by usmabama:
What do you think about Youngstown St +9? thanks and BOL
I cant believe Bama St covered...I thought for sure I had a winner when Texas Southern was up by 18 (I think?) anyway...
Initial thought was that the line seemed high. Tough to cover that sort of # with an ugly offense like Wisconsin MKE. But getting into the match-up, Youngstown hit 9 three's that first game against a usually good MKE three-point defense. If they can duplicate that on the road, then it'll have a chance. If they can't, then I see MKE getting revenge. MKE already proved to be worth the revenge angle once this year (lost at Butler by 4, won at home by 11).
Both play fast, no clue on the line move. Not the greatest of defenses, but not the greatest of offenses. Played to a total of 126 earlier this year in 60 possessions.
This game's projected at 67. Point over.
how do u find out information like that?
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Quote Originally Posted by nropp11:
Both play fast, no clue on the line move. Not the greatest of defenses, but not the greatest of offenses. Played to a total of 126 earlier this year in 60 possessions.
What about UVA's potential lookahead to first-place FSU?
What about Clemson playing better on the road recently? (lost last 2 road games @BC and @Miami by total of 5 pts - both not easy places to play)?
Also, Stuckey is on Clemson...
I don't see the FSU look ahead. It might be there, but I don't see it. Clemson beat FSU by 20, so I think that's the focus if anything here.
Boston College game I really can't reference. That defense is pitiful, and a different style (incorporate some zone and full court pressure). Offense is horrendous, too.
As for the Miami FL game, Larranaga uses a few different defenses, and that defense is far from impressive. If I remember that game correctly, Miami FL had a few guards hurt and it's a team that's been plagued by injuries all year (I think up to a few weeks ago, they've only had the top 8 practice together a few times this year). That was also Grant's first double digit scoring game since his brother passed.
I can't group Virginia in the same tier as those teams.
Stuckey got the +8. Hope he can push.
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Quote Originally Posted by ZonaCats:
What about UVA's potential lookahead to first-place FSU?
What about Clemson playing better on the road recently? (lost last 2 road games @BC and @Miami by total of 5 pts - both not easy places to play)?
Also, Stuckey is on Clemson...
I don't see the FSU look ahead. It might be there, but I don't see it. Clemson beat FSU by 20, so I think that's the focus if anything here.
Boston College game I really can't reference. That defense is pitiful, and a different style (incorporate some zone and full court pressure). Offense is horrendous, too.
As for the Miami FL game, Larranaga uses a few different defenses, and that defense is far from impressive. If I remember that game correctly, Miami FL had a few guards hurt and it's a team that's been plagued by injuries all year (I think up to a few weeks ago, they've only had the top 8 practice together a few times this year). That was also Grant's first double digit scoring game since his brother passed.
I can't group Virginia in the same tier as those teams.
Nropp- Any thoughts on the Kent St Central Mich Game?
Thanks in advance and GL
Yah, I don't get the line and I crossed it off. If you want me to talk you off Kent State, then here I go:
Kent State was only a -5.5 at Toledo. I view Central Michigan quite a bit better than what Toledo is. The record doesn't show it, and I have no idea what's going on at CMU, but they have talent. It's just not adding up. Also, they're laying the same exact number they just laid on game #1 of the two game roady. This is game #2. Zeigler's not a great match-up for them, either.
As far as good things going in your favor, the MAC East is 9-3 against the West this year. That should stay about the same, if not, get better. The West side of the MAC this year blows chunks.
KSU probably the only thing I could play. Just don't feel confident on the second roady. But yah, line doesn't make sense.
GL
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Quote Originally Posted by dmoore916:
Nropp- Any thoughts on the Kent St Central Mich Game?
Thanks in advance and GL
Yah, I don't get the line and I crossed it off. If you want me to talk you off Kent State, then here I go:
Kent State was only a -5.5 at Toledo. I view Central Michigan quite a bit better than what Toledo is. The record doesn't show it, and I have no idea what's going on at CMU, but they have talent. It's just not adding up. Also, they're laying the same exact number they just laid on game #1 of the two game roady. This is game #2. Zeigler's not a great match-up for them, either.
As far as good things going in your favor, the MAC East is 9-3 against the West this year. That should stay about the same, if not, get better. The West side of the MAC this year blows chunks.
KSU probably the only thing I could play. Just don't feel confident on the second roady. But yah, line doesn't make sense.
Yah, I don't get the line and I crossed it off. If you want me to talk you off Kent State, then here I go:
Kent State was only a -5.5 at Toledo. I view Central Michigan quite a bit better than what Toledo is. The record doesn't show it, and I have no idea what's going on at CMU, but they have talent. It's just not adding up. Also, they're laying the same exact number they just laid on game #1 of the two game roady. This is game #2. Zeigler's not a great match-up for them, either.
As far as good things going in your favor, the MAC East is 9-3 against the West this year. That should stay about the same, if not, get better. The West side of the MAC this year blows chunks.
KSU probably the only thing I could play. Just don't feel confident on the second roady. But yah, line doesn't make sense.
GL
Thank you that was the exact information I wa slooking for. CMU just has been playing awful basketball and I dont see Kent St losing. May take a small parlay with Kent St and VA.
Thanks for all your time and input
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Quote Originally Posted by nropp11:
Yah, I don't get the line and I crossed it off. If you want me to talk you off Kent State, then here I go:
Kent State was only a -5.5 at Toledo. I view Central Michigan quite a bit better than what Toledo is. The record doesn't show it, and I have no idea what's going on at CMU, but they have talent. It's just not adding up. Also, they're laying the same exact number they just laid on game #1 of the two game roady. This is game #2. Zeigler's not a great match-up for them, either.
As far as good things going in your favor, the MAC East is 9-3 against the West this year. That should stay about the same, if not, get better. The West side of the MAC this year blows chunks.
KSU probably the only thing I could play. Just don't feel confident on the second roady. But yah, line doesn't make sense.
GL
Thank you that was the exact information I wa slooking for. CMU just has been playing awful basketball and I dont see Kent St losing. May take a small parlay with Kent St and VA.
Have you looked at Wisky? What am I missing here? opens at 10 and plumets to 8? I was thinking 11.5 or 12 for sure. What does the public know that I dont? This seems like an easy 1 similar to the kentucky lashing by 30+ a little while ago?
I cannot see pen scoring more than 45-47 on this wisky def. Game will play out as a snail but wisky is so efficient offensively and will dominate the both the offensive and defensive glass how can they not score 65 + easy?
Can you talk me out of this 1?
I can try to talk you out of it, I guess. Penn State's use to playing this style of basketball, so nothing new to prepare or figure out there. Sandwich spot for Wisconsin (Indiana/Turkey/OhioState).
Yup, that's about all I got.
GL
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Quote Originally Posted by pitbull666:
Neil,
Have you looked at Wisky? What am I missing here? opens at 10 and plumets to 8? I was thinking 11.5 or 12 for sure. What does the public know that I dont? This seems like an easy 1 similar to the kentucky lashing by 30+ a little while ago?
I cannot see pen scoring more than 45-47 on this wisky def. Game will play out as a snail but wisky is so efficient offensively and will dominate the both the offensive and defensive glass how can they not score 65 + easy?
Can you talk me out of this 1?
I can try to talk you out of it, I guess. Penn State's use to playing this style of basketball, so nothing new to prepare or figure out there. Sandwich spot for Wisconsin (Indiana/Turkey/OhioState).
also, any chance Seton Hall beats MU on the road? Thanks.
I don't know about outright win but they'll look better than what they did against Louisville. Two different zone defenses in terms of pressure on the guards. Seton Hall's still going to have to knock down some outside shots, which is a tough task for them.
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Quote Originally Posted by sportsanalyst:
also, any chance Seton Hall beats MU on the road? Thanks.
I don't know about outright win but they'll look better than what they did against Louisville. Two different zone defenses in terms of pressure on the guards. Seton Hall's still going to have to knock down some outside shots, which is a tough task for them.
Kent St on road giving points with an ATS of 7-11-0 vs CMU at Home getting with an ATS 9-9-1,,I'll take the points and the home team,,,they could win SU also,,but much better plays t nite,,
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I don't get it ????
Kent St on road giving points with an ATS of 7-11-0 vs CMU at Home getting with an ATS 9-9-1,,I'll take the points and the home team,,,they could win SU also,,but much better plays t nite,,
nropp Assane Sene is out indefinitely I didnt see you mention what effect you feel his absence will have on Virginia?
He's been out 3 games. Numbers-wise, much bigger loss defensively than offensively, but not too terribly concerned. If Clemson's going to cover, they're going to have to score from the outside by creating shots or taking people off the dribble, and I don't see it happening.
GL
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Quote Originally Posted by bafongue1:
nropp Assane Sene is out indefinitely I didnt see you mention what effect you feel his absence will have on Virginia?
He's been out 3 games. Numbers-wise, much bigger loss defensively than offensively, but not too terribly concerned. If Clemson's going to cover, they're going to have to score from the outside by creating shots or taking people off the dribble, and I don't see it happening.
I like the Vandy/Arkansas game going way over the total tonight at 142. U were right about Vandy and their turnovers. They turn the ball over a lot on the road.
I see a game in the 80s for both teams. Thoughts? Thanks
I know Arkansas had low scoring games against LSU and Auburn who are two snails but I know Vandy plays faster than those two teams and they have had a few high scoring games on the road as well.
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I like the Vandy/Arkansas game going way over the total tonight at 142. U were right about Vandy and their turnovers. They turn the ball over a lot on the road.
I see a game in the 80s for both teams. Thoughts? Thanks
I know Arkansas had low scoring games against LSU and Auburn who are two snails but I know Vandy plays faster than those two teams and they have had a few high scoring games on the road as well.
What about UVA's potential lookahead to first-place FSU?
What about Clemson playing better on the road recently? (lost last 2 road games @BC and @Miami by total of 5 pts - both not easy places to play)?
Also, Stuckey is on Clemson...
I'm a NOLE from Florida and I'm not sure the ACC or UVA is total buying in on my Noles just yet. Yes they have the two wins but so many times in the last 10 years FSU has been so close to reaching the top of the ACC and failed. This could be a different year but thats up to the NOLES to put their foot down on the gas and stay on top of the ACC at the end of the year. History says no.....This NOLE says it can be done!!!! But i'm bias so what do I know!
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Quote Originally Posted by ZonaCats:
What about UVA's potential lookahead to first-place FSU?
What about Clemson playing better on the road recently? (lost last 2 road games @BC and @Miami by total of 5 pts - both not easy places to play)?
Also, Stuckey is on Clemson...
I'm a NOLE from Florida and I'm not sure the ACC or UVA is total buying in on my Noles just yet. Yes they have the two wins but so many times in the last 10 years FSU has been so close to reaching the top of the ACC and failed. This could be a different year but thats up to the NOLES to put their foot down on the gas and stay on top of the ACC at the end of the year. History says no.....This NOLE says it can be done!!!! But i'm bias so what do I know!
Nice Kirate Kid reference Daniel- Son. Just wish some of this negative karma, attempt at humor bullshit would find its way off these threads. Asking someone who really knows the pace and style of play of most teams is a bad thing?
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Quote Originally Posted by pitbull666:
Neil,
Why don't you make everyone's bets for them?
wax on wax off
Nice Kirate Kid reference Daniel- Son. Just wish some of this negative karma, attempt at humor bullshit would find its way off these threads. Asking someone who really knows the pace and style of play of most teams is a bad thing?
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