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Welcome all STREAK BREAKERS,,,,,,,into week #4,, time to get serious in the wagers we make

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Posted: Dec. 16, 2009 - 11:02 PM ET #201

Quote Originally Posted by squinta1:

Quote Originally Posted by hockey20:

Bob,

Thanks for the reference I will wait for the experts replies on this.  I am trying to tail the A, B, C system, but need a little understanding of the over on 6, that is all.

 

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there really seems to be no reasoning behind the picks in that NHL system. if there is it is not referenced in the original thread. the systems record speaks for it self though. it laughs in the face of conventional total capping, not taking into account avg goals for or against. but like i said the record speaks for itself. if i had to speculate, and this is exaclty that, i would guess that his system was created by someone that either helped set lines or knew someone that did, and it must go along with how they cap the totals. and if you think taht the over 6 was too much and easily an under, dont you believe that vegas would have the same feelings?

They have said many times in that thread that the system has no reasoning.  It does have results which is great, so I would say tail it if you like.  Personally I have to have at least a LITTLE but of reasoning behind a system.  BOL though! 

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Bob,

Thanks for the reference I will wait for the experts replies on this.  I am trying to tail the A, B, C system, but need a little understanding of the over on 6, that is all.

 

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there really seems to be no reasoning behind the picks in that NHL system. if there is it is not referenced in the original thread. the systems record speaks for it self though. it laughs in the face of conventional total capping, not taking into account avg goals for or against. but like i said the record speaks for itself. if i had to speculate, and this is exaclty that, i would guess that his system was created by someone that either helped set lines or knew someone that did, and it must go along with how they cap the totals. and if you think taht the over 6 was too much and easily an under, dont you believe that vegas would have the same feelings?

They have said many times in that thread that the system has no reasoning.  It does have results which is great, so I would say tail it if you like.  Personally I have to have at least a LITTLE but of reasoning behind a system.  BOL though! 

 
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Air -

hate to keep buggin you but this labouchere is driving me crazy.  You play on ONE side of the same team until you get your money back - is that right?

Finally won a bet with NM as I bet on them.  So I should play ON them until I win three more than I lose (or close to that), yes?
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hate to keep buggin you but this labouchere is driving me crazy.  You play on ONE side of the same team until you get your money back - is that right?

Finally won a bet with NM as I bet on them.  So I should play ON them until I win three more than I lose (or close to that), yes?
 
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nice i tailed islander under,atl over thanx plus 2 dimes
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nice i tailed islander under,atl over thanx plus 2 dimes
 
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Quote Originally Posted by BandosWB:

Air -

hate to keep buggin you but this labouchere is driving me crazy.  You play on ONE side of the same team until you get your money back - is that right?

Finally won a bet with NM as I bet on them.  So I should play ON them until I win three more than I lose (or close to that), yes?

Hey Bando - good to hear from you.  To answer your question I continue to play the same team and the same side that I lost the 4 games streak on.  For instance when the Bulls streak went from 4 to 8 games, I lost $97 on that streak...so I set up the Labouchere like this 7,10,10,10,10,10,10,10,10,10...and continued to bet on Chicago to cover. They covered last night against the lakers so....

Today that Labouchere line looks like this...10,10,10,10,10,10,10,10,10,18.98

So tomorrow I will have $28.98 on the Bulls.  I probably went to deep into that answer, I know you have researched it a bit and know what I am talking about but in case others have not...

Hope that helps.

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Air -

hate to keep buggin you but this labouchere is driving me crazy.  You play on ONE side of the same team until you get your money back - is that right?

Finally won a bet with NM as I bet on them.  So I should play ON them until I win three more than I lose (or close to that), yes?

Hey Bando - good to hear from you.  To answer your question I continue to play the same team and the same side that I lost the 4 games streak on.  For instance when the Bulls streak went from 4 to 8 games, I lost $97 on that streak...so I set up the Labouchere like this 7,10,10,10,10,10,10,10,10,10...and continued to bet on Chicago to cover. They covered last night against the lakers so....

Today that Labouchere line looks like this...10,10,10,10,10,10,10,10,10,18.98

So tomorrow I will have $28.98 on the Bulls.  I probably went to deep into that answer, I know you have researched it a bit and know what I am talking about but in case others have not...

Hope that helps.

 
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If CHI covered and you bet ON CHIC - why did you add numbers to the line?

So you would continue to bet against Nmex, for Elon, for SF?  I was thinking of doing the opposite and betting on NM, and fading the other two terrible teams.

What do you think?
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If CHI covered and you bet ON CHIC - why did you add numbers to the line?

So you would continue to bet against Nmex, for Elon, for SF?  I was thinking of doing the opposite and betting on NM, and fading the other two terrible teams.

What do you think?
 
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Updated records:

streak   W-L
3-0     24-34-1
4-0    16-12-1
5-0    4-4
6-0    1-1
7-0    0-0-1

0-3    25-24-2
0-4    13-8-1
0-5    3-3
0-6    2-0

IF we believe that history is our guide, the losing streaks are currently OVERperforming, and the winning streaks are currently UNDERperforming.  Assuming regression to the mean, be careful with losing streaks for a while and pound winning streaks to end.

LOT OF ASSUMPTIONS in that last sentence.

I will be wicked busy the next 3 days.  As there are no plays til Saturday, I may not post much.  I have been thinking fo the folloeing betting scheme:

Winning streaks ONLY:
fade
4-0 1u
5-0 1u
6-0 NP
7-0 NP
8-0 1u
9-0 3u
10-0 6u

If I had to play losing streaks:
0-4 NP
0-5 1u
0-6 1u
0-7 NP
0-8 1u
0-9 2u
0-10 5u
etc.



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Updated records:

streak   W-L
3-0     24-34-1
4-0    16-12-1
5-0    4-4
6-0    1-1
7-0    0-0-1

0-3    25-24-2
0-4    13-8-1
0-5    3-3
0-6    2-0

IF we believe that history is our guide, the losing streaks are currently OVERperforming, and the winning streaks are currently UNDERperforming.  Assuming regression to the mean, be careful with losing streaks for a while and pound winning streaks to end.

LOT OF ASSUMPTIONS in that last sentence.

I will be wicked busy the next 3 days.  As there are no plays til Saturday, I may not post much.  I have been thinking fo the folloeing betting scheme:

Winning streaks ONLY:
fade
4-0 1u
5-0 1u
6-0 NP
7-0 NP
8-0 1u
9-0 3u
10-0 6u

If I had to play losing streaks:
0-4 NP
0-5 1u
0-6 1u
0-7 NP
0-8 1u
0-9 2u
0-10 5u
etc.



 
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Quote Originally Posted by BandosWB:

If CHI covered and you bet ON CHIC - why did you add numbers to the line?

So you would continue to bet against Nmex, for Elon, for SF?  I was thinking of doing the opposite and betting on NM, and fading the other two terrible teams.

What do you think?

I added a line because the first time I bet on Chicago they did not cover...so that was a $17.26...so the $18.98 goes to the end of the line..I think it's fine to bet the streak however you want...the idea of flipping it to the Labouchere is so that if the streak continues you arent betting $100,$200,400,etc. it can take a toll on your bankroll real quick.  I would say however you bet - you should keep it consistent.  So if you bet on them...bet on them each time, don't flip flop..The idea is to take the mind out of it and just let the stats work.

Hope that helps.

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Quote Originally Posted by BandosWB:

If CHI covered and you bet ON CHIC - why did you add numbers to the line?

So you would continue to bet against Nmex, for Elon, for SF?  I was thinking of doing the opposite and betting on NM, and fading the other two terrible teams.

What do you think?

I added a line because the first time I bet on Chicago they did not cover...so that was a $17.26...so the $18.98 goes to the end of the line..I think it's fine to bet the streak however you want...the idea of flipping it to the Labouchere is so that if the streak continues you arent betting $100,$200,400,etc. it can take a toll on your bankroll real quick.  I would say however you bet - you should keep it consistent.  So if you bet on them...bet on them each time, don't flip flop..The idea is to take the mind out of it and just let the stats work.

Hope that helps.

 
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Thursday, December 17th plays:
NASHVILLE [C] / Edmonton - Under 5.5

 

 

I realize Nashville has gone WAY over their last two games but this is what the system says to play. I personally(being a homer) think that this is a good play. The Oil and Preds always play each other really tight but when you look at Nashville's last two games you may tend to want to think over. Play at your own discretion.

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Thursday, December 17th plays:
NASHVILLE [C] / Edmonton - Under 5.5

 

 

I realize Nashville has gone WAY over their last two games but this is what the system says to play. I personally(being a homer) think that this is a good play. The Oil and Preds always play each other really tight but when you look at Nashville's last two games you may tend to want to think over. Play at your own discretion.

 
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Morning guys ,,,well our NHL went great as i had 3 winners,,,

Ncaab ,,,,,,two games with very close results against system,,, and one easy winner,,,,,,,,,

Miss St moves to 5-0

Duquense moves to 0-6 per covers,,(personally i had a push so i am not whole yet so i will be on them next time)

Next two days no #4's or higher  so hope someone can come up with something,,,,NBA,,,,,,,,,,,,Wheres air,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

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Morning guys ,,,well our NHL went great as i had 3 winners,,,

Ncaab ,,,,,,two games with very close results against system,,, and one easy winner,,,,,,,,,

Miss St moves to 5-0

Duquense moves to 0-6 per covers,,(personally i had a push so i am not whole yet so i will be on them next time)

Next two days no #4's or higher  so hope someone can come up with something,,,,NBA,,,,,,,,,,,,Wheres air,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

 
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Streak Updates,,on WATCH,,,

0-6,,,,,,Duquense,,,12/30 Old Dom we may get a win

6-0,,,Western Carolina ,,,,next 12/22 vs Clemson

St Marys at 6-0,,,,,next 12/18 vs Pacific

5-0,, W&M  ditto,,,,next 12/22,,,,,,G tech,,,12/20,,, S Miss 12/21 and Miss St 12/19 vs houston

0-5,,,,,,Mich,,12/19,,Umass,,12/19,,Wash 12/19

4-0,,Okla 12/19,Kans St 12/19,

0-4 Tenn mart 12/19,,,Penn 12/31,vs Duke,,,,,

Appears SYSTEM is counting on CLEMSON to cover two big plays for it,,,today,, and on 12/22

System has a lot of money out threre on all these teams,,

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Streak Updates,,on WATCH,,,

0-6,,,,,,Duquense,,,12/30 Old Dom we may get a win

6-0,,,Western Carolina ,,,,next 12/22 vs Clemson

St Marys at 6-0,,,,,next 12/18 vs Pacific

5-0,, W&M  ditto,,,,next 12/22,,,,,,G tech,,,12/20,,, S Miss 12/21 and Miss St 12/19 vs houston

0-5,,,,,,Mich,,12/19,,Umass,,12/19,,Wash 12/19

4-0,,Okla 12/19,Kans St 12/19,

0-4 Tenn mart 12/19,,,Penn 12/31,vs Duke,,,,,

Appears SYSTEM is counting on CLEMSON to cover two big plays for it,,,today,, and on 12/22

System has a lot of money out threre on all these teams,,

 
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System Update Addendum,,,,,,,New Commers,,,,With the above #4's

Cincinnati is at 0-4,,First time wager next play,,12/30 uconn ( they do have two prior matchups but don't think wagerable games) Plz check,,12/19 first

Illinois St is at 0-4,,First time wager next play 12/19 vs UTAH

Northwestern at 4-0 First time wager next play,,12/19,,Stanford

Appears Saturday will be a BIG day for SYSTEM ,,,,,time for RECOVERY

 

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System Update Addendum,,,,,,,New Commers,,,,With the above #4's

Cincinnati is at 0-4,,First time wager next play,,12/30 uconn ( they do have two prior matchups but don't think wagerable games) Plz check,,12/19 first

Illinois St is at 0-4,,First time wager next play 12/19 vs UTAH

Northwestern at 4-0 First time wager next play,,12/19,,Stanford

Appears Saturday will be a BIG day for SYSTEM ,,,,,time for RECOVERY

 

 
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These 3 teams have moved into the EXCLUSIVE club as only one team has progressed further,,,New Mexico who succumed at 7-0 out of all 280 teams,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

0-6,,,,,,Duquense,,,12/30 Old Dom we may get a win

6-0,,,Western Carolina ,,,,next 12/22 vs Clemson

St Marys at 6-0,,,,,next 12/18 vs Pacific,,,,Friday,,,,is the First

I will be playing these large

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These 3 teams have moved into the EXCLUSIVE club as only one team has progressed further,,,New Mexico who succumed at 7-0 out of all 280 teams,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

0-6,,,,,,Duquense,,,12/30 Old Dom we may get a win

6-0,,,Western Carolina ,,,,next 12/22 vs Clemson

St Marys at 6-0,,,,,next 12/18 vs Pacific,,,,Friday,,,,is the First

I will be playing these large

 
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Great work guys.....jm hockey picks nyr (a) Nashville(a)....what are the plays for today?
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this system almost sounds too good to be true. 
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this system almost sounds too good to be true. 
 
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Quote Originally Posted by Johnnybad:

this system almost sounds too good to be true. 

I would say try for a while and see.  It's definitely not loss proof, but it has had good results.  Bankroll management plays a part in it as well.

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this system almost sounds too good to be true. 

I would say try for a while and see.  It's definitely not loss proof, but it has had good results.  Bankroll management plays a part in it as well.

 
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Only one,,,Fridays play,,12/18,,,,,,,,,,,6-0

St Mary

Saturdays plays all #4 W/L or higher all #4 's are first time plays

4-0,,,,,4 teams,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

Oklahoma

Kansas St

Georgia St

0-4,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

Tenn martin

Ill St

Cinn

5-0,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

Miss St

0-5,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

Michigan

Umass

Washington

Northwestern

6-0,,,,,,0-6,,,,,,,None

The #4's are all First time plays you could play them or pass,,depending on the # of plays you wish to play and await them at #5

 

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Only one,,,Fridays play,,12/18,,,,,,,,,,,6-0

St Mary

Saturdays plays all #4 W/L or higher all #4 's are first time plays

4-0,,,,,4 teams,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

Oklahoma

Kansas St

Georgia St

0-4,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

Tenn martin

Ill St

Cinn

5-0,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

Miss St

0-5,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

Michigan

Umass

Washington

Northwestern

6-0,,,,,,0-6,,,,,,,None

The #4's are all First time plays you could play them or pass,,depending on the # of plays you wish to play and await them at #5

 

 
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Damnnn

4-0,,,,,4 teams,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

Oklahoma

Kansas St

Georgia St

Northwestern,,,,,,,,,,,

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4-0,,,,,4 teams,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

Oklahoma

Kansas St

Georgia St

Northwestern,,,,,,,,,,,

 
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dannn again

0-5,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

Michigan

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Washington

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0-5,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

Michigan

Umass

Washington

 
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did i miss it or are there no thursday plays?
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Quote Originally Posted by goallinebob:

Morning guys ,,,well our NHL went great as i had 3 winners,,,

Ncaab ,,,,,,two games with very close results against system,,, and one easy winner,,,,,,,,,

Miss St moves to 5-0

Duquense moves to 0-6 per covers,,(personally i had a push so i am not whole yet so i will be on them next time)

Next two days no #4's or higher  so hope someone can come up with something,,,,NBA,,,,,,,,,,,,Wheres air,,,,,,,,,,,,,,



is there any 3's that we can ride in hope that it will get to a 4?
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Morning guys ,,,well our NHL went great as i had 3 winners,,,

Ncaab ,,,,,,two games with very close results against system,,, and one easy winner,,,,,,,,,

Miss St moves to 5-0

Duquense moves to 0-6 per covers,,(personally i had a push so i am not whole yet so i will be on them next time)

Next two days no #4's or higher  so hope someone can come up with something,,,,NBA,,,,,,,,,,,,Wheres air,,,,,,,,,,,,,,



is there any 3's that we can ride in hope that it will get to a 4?
 
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Quote Originally Posted by goallinebob:

Morning guys ,,,well our NHL went great as i had 3 winners,,,

Ncaab ,,,,,,two games with very close results against system,,, and one easy winner,,,,,,,,,

Miss St moves to 5-0

Duquense moves to 0-6 per covers,,(personally i had a push so i am not whole yet so i will be on them next time)

Next two days no #4's or higher  so hope someone can come up with something,,,,NBA,,,,,,,,,,,,Wheres air,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

Hey guys.  Sorry for the delay.

NBA has got two plays tonight....

Miami under

and

Portland.

Miami has been over for 5 straight and Phoenix has covered 4 straight.  Take it for what it's worth.

Peace!!

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Morning guys ,,,well our NHL went great as i had 3 winners,,,

Ncaab ,,,,,,two games with very close results against system,,, and one easy winner,,,,,,,,,

Miss St moves to 5-0

Duquense moves to 0-6 per covers,,(personally i had a push so i am not whole yet so i will be on them next time)

Next two days no #4's or higher  so hope someone can come up with something,,,,NBA,,,,,,,,,,,,Wheres air,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

Hey guys.  Sorry for the delay.

NBA has got two plays tonight....

Miami under

and

Portland.

Miami has been over for 5 straight and Phoenix has covered 4 straight.  Take it for what it's worth.

Peace!!

 
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The 3/0 and 0/3 games for thurs. are;Aub. 0/3 at Fla St. o/3 (go figure),Fresno St. at 3/0, Fla. Int. at3/0,Webber St. at 3/0 and EE. Washington at 0/3. BOL
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My thoughts t nite,,,,,,First i will play Air's plays and the one under in NHL,,,Oilers  gm under 5.5 ,,,,,,,,,,additionally

there are # 3's but vey dicey so you play them as you think,,,

 for me my  additional plays will be

Denver agaist FIU covering

UC davis ditto vs Fresno

Elon is sooo bad i must fade them with NC ST to cover

Unlv also to cover esp since there at home too

EWU needs a cover so i'm on them

Understand all these 3's are light,,,,, also put most on a parlay,,,do i expect to win prob not,,,, but gifts come in very strange ways,,,,,,,,Can't wait till Saturday,,,,,,,,,

 

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My thoughts t nite,,,,,,First i will play Air's plays and the one under in NHL,,,Oilers  gm under 5.5 ,,,,,,,,,,additionally

there are # 3's but vey dicey so you play them as you think,,,

 for me my  additional plays will be

Denver agaist FIU covering

UC davis ditto vs Fresno

Elon is sooo bad i must fade them with NC ST to cover

Unlv also to cover esp since there at home too

EWU needs a cover so i'm on them

Understand all these 3's are light,,,,, also put most on a parlay,,,do i expect to win prob not,,,, but gifts come in very strange ways,,,,,,,,Can't wait till Saturday,,,,,,,,,

 

 
 
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According to covers, Miss ST is 4-0 as well.  They are at HOU.
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