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    Posted: Sep. 21, 2010 - 4:31 PM ET #76

    Quote Originally Posted by RJSizzle:



    You are incorrect in this assumption. GOY lines on Bama were -3.5.

    A win or loss last week wasnt going to affect this line.


    Wasn't talking about the GOY line changing.. just stating if UGA beats Ark last week.. this line, instead of 7-7.5  is 10+

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    Quote Originally Posted by RJSizzle:



    You are incorrect in this assumption. GOY lines on Bama were -3.5.

    A win or loss last week wasnt going to affect this line.


    Wasn't talking about the GOY line changing.. just stating if UGA beats Ark last week.. this line, instead of 7-7.5  is 10+

     
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    Posted: Sep. 21, 2010 - 4:32 PM ET #77

    Quote Originally Posted by DaimondD:


    i asked you earlier to give me one reason why you think arkansas will stop bama's offense. im still waiting on your answer.


    Because I have no reason to think they wont.



    Probably the same reason you think Bama's severely overrated D will stop Ark.



    Are you going to be able to sleep tonight now that I answered that? Whew. I know I feel better now.


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    Quote Originally Posted by DaimondD:


    i asked you earlier to give me one reason why you think arkansas will stop bama's offense. im still waiting on your answer.


    Because I have no reason to think they wont.



    Probably the same reason you think Bama's severely overrated D will stop Ark.



    Are you going to be able to sleep tonight now that I answered that? Whew. I know I feel better now.


     
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    Posted: Sep. 21, 2010 - 4:33 PM ET #78

    Quote Originally Posted by SatNightFever05:



    Wasn't talking about the GOY line changing.. just stating if UGA beats Ark last week.. this line, instead of 7-7.5  is 10+



    I wholeheartedly disagree. That would be an overreaction by bookmakers and they dont do such things.

    Come on. This is what these guys do for a living. I wouldnt think they are that naive - which is the problem most of these posters have week in and week out. They think Vegas doesnt know the lines they are offering on the biggest games.


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    Quote Originally Posted by SatNightFever05:



    Wasn't talking about the GOY line changing.. just stating if UGA beats Ark last week.. this line, instead of 7-7.5  is 10+



    I wholeheartedly disagree. That would be an overreaction by bookmakers and they dont do such things.

    Come on. This is what these guys do for a living. I wouldnt think they are that naive - which is the problem most of these posters have week in and week out. They think Vegas doesnt know the lines they are offering on the biggest games.


     
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    Posted: Sep. 21, 2010 - 4:34 PM ET #79

    Quote Originally Posted by RJSizzle:



    Handicapping is not an exact science. Its dynamic.

    I incorporate it the same way you try to incorporate any other variable. Nothing is completely quantifiable in gambling.


    i can respect that.  i suppose im more of a numbers guy. i always try to take emotion out of the equation.  i come up with my number and use it against the given line. again, i dont want ya to think im bashing your play.  you might be on the right side and i could be way off here. it wouldnt be the first or the last time. in all honesty, i would love to see arkansas pull it off just from a fan perspective.  just cant put my money on it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RJSizzle:



    Handicapping is not an exact science. Its dynamic.

    I incorporate it the same way you try to incorporate any other variable. Nothing is completely quantifiable in gambling.


    i can respect that.  i suppose im more of a numbers guy. i always try to take emotion out of the equation.  i come up with my number and use it against the given line. again, i dont want ya to think im bashing your play.  you might be on the right side and i could be way off here. it wouldnt be the first or the last time. in all honesty, i would love to see arkansas pull it off just from a fan perspective.  just cant put my money on it.

     
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    Posted: Sep. 21, 2010 - 4:38 PM ET #80

    Quote Originally Posted by RJSizzle:



    I wholeheartedly disagree. That would be an overreaction by bookmakers and they dont do such things.

    Come on. This is what these guys do for a living. I wouldnt think they are that naive - which is the problem most of these posters have week in and week out. They think Vegas doesnt know the lines they are offering on the biggest games.




    agree with everything you just said
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    Quote Originally Posted by RJSizzle:



    I wholeheartedly disagree. That would be an overreaction by bookmakers and they dont do such things.

    Come on. This is what these guys do for a living. I wouldnt think they are that naive - which is the problem most of these posters have week in and week out. They think Vegas doesnt know the lines they are offering on the biggest games.




    agree with everything you just said
     
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    Posted: Sep. 21, 2010 - 4:46 PM ET #81

    Quote Originally Posted by tideman:

    much simpler to stop a one deminsional offense like Arkansas, than a well balanced offense at Bama. Bama doesn't have to record double digit sacks against Mallet in order to be successful, only pressure him, get him out of the pocket, and force him into mistakes, like last year. Its much harder to be an accurate passer when throwing on the run, and believe me, he will be on the run. Everyone knows that conference play is tough, and that anyone can be beat on any given Saturday, but to base your decision on ifs and buts and maybes is rediculous. I have put my money on the better team, with the better coaching staff, and with the better athletes. Doesn't that make more sense? Good luck with your Arkansas bet, and the rest of the season.

     



    You act like Arkansas has no athletes, their qb and atleast two WR's are laughing at anyone bama has in those positions. Arkansas is loaded with talent, NFL talent. Just like every other SEC team.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tideman:

    much simpler to stop a one deminsional offense like Arkansas, than a well balanced offense at Bama. Bama doesn't have to record double digit sacks against Mallet in order to be successful, only pressure him, get him out of the pocket, and force him into mistakes, like last year. Its much harder to be an accurate passer when throwing on the run, and believe me, he will be on the run. Everyone knows that conference play is tough, and that anyone can be beat on any given Saturday, but to base your decision on ifs and buts and maybes is rediculous. I have put my money on the better team, with the better coaching staff, and with the better athletes. Doesn't that make more sense? Good luck with your Arkansas bet, and the rest of the season.

     



    You act like Arkansas has no athletes, their qb and atleast two WR's are laughing at anyone bama has in those positions. Arkansas is loaded with talent, NFL talent. Just like every other SEC team.
     
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    Posted: Sep. 21, 2010 - 4:50 PM ET #82

    Quote Originally Posted by DaimondD:

    i can respect that.  i suppose im more of a numbers guy. i always try to take emotion out of the equation.  i come up with my number and use it against the given line. again, i dont want ya to think im bashing your play.  you might be on the right side and i could be way off here. it wouldnt be the first or the last time. in all honesty, i would love to see arkansas pull it off just from a fan perspective.  just cant put my money on it.



    See, just like I dont try dental work because I am not a dentist, I dont have the balls to try to make my own line. The people that do often miss the spots and then get their asses handed to them. Is that what happens to you? I dont know, but I am just speaking from seeing it happen.

    Shit, I would love to see Arky win this game, but I dont give a shit. I just dont see Bama being 7 points better than them in this spot. Could I lose? Yeah, none of us are perfect, but playing spots like this is how I have been profitable for years and playing the reverse of these spots is how I have seen people go broke.

    GL man. I think we have gone back and forth enough on this one.

    I just refuse to call a game as over before it kicks.




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    Quote Originally Posted by DaimondD:

    i can respect that.  i suppose im more of a numbers guy. i always try to take emotion out of the equation.  i come up with my number and use it against the given line. again, i dont want ya to think im bashing your play.  you might be on the right side and i could be way off here. it wouldnt be the first or the last time. in all honesty, i would love to see arkansas pull it off just from a fan perspective.  just cant put my money on it.



    See, just like I dont try dental work because I am not a dentist, I dont have the balls to try to make my own line. The people that do often miss the spots and then get their asses handed to them. Is that what happens to you? I dont know, but I am just speaking from seeing it happen.

    Shit, I would love to see Arky win this game, but I dont give a shit. I just dont see Bama being 7 points better than them in this spot. Could I lose? Yeah, none of us are perfect, but playing spots like this is how I have been profitable for years and playing the reverse of these spots is how I have seen people go broke.

    GL man. I think we have gone back and forth enough on this one.

    I just refuse to call a game as over before it kicks.




     
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    Posted: Sep. 21, 2010 - 4:51 PM ET #83

    Quote Originally Posted by RJSizzle:



    I wholeheartedly disagree. That would be an overreaction by bookmakers and they dont do such things.

    Come on. This is what these guys do for a living. I wouldnt think they are that naive - which is the problem most of these posters have week in and week out. They think Vegas doesnt know the lines they are offering on the biggest games.



    So you are saying if Arkansas lost to UGA, this line would be the same? 

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    Quote Originally Posted by RJSizzle:



    I wholeheartedly disagree. That would be an overreaction by bookmakers and they dont do such things.

    Come on. This is what these guys do for a living. I wouldnt think they are that naive - which is the problem most of these posters have week in and week out. They think Vegas doesnt know the lines they are offering on the biggest games.



    So you are saying if Arkansas lost to UGA, this line would be the same? 

     
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    Posted: Sep. 21, 2010 - 4:55 PM ET #84

    Quote Originally Posted by jimmydafreak:

    I didn't take it as you calling me out.  I just thought you were looking for clarification.

    I know some other people have said Saban is light-years ahead of Petrino, but I did not say that.  I think when you look at coaching college football and everything that goes in its totality, Saban is pretty far ahead of Petrino.  But if we are just talking about game planning and gameday coaching, Petrino is pretty damn good.

    This Bama team is battle hardened with a lot of big-game experience.  I honestly don't think home field advantage will mean much.

     

    No I know you didnt say that but the other dude did so I was just putting that in there. Man, if we are only giving credit to coaches who have won a national title then there arent many good coaches out there. I happen to be of the thinking that there are a lot more than that.

    Also, (im not directing this at you jimmy but the other guy) if that is your reasoning then I think Penn State has the best coach in the world and they lost to Alabama. Your reasoning is just wrong. Im not even saying Petrino is better but come on GTFO if you think its not close.

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by jimmydafreak:

    I didn't take it as you calling me out.  I just thought you were looking for clarification.

    I know some other people have said Saban is light-years ahead of Petrino, but I did not say that.  I think when you look at coaching college football and everything that goes in its totality, Saban is pretty far ahead of Petrino.  But if we are just talking about game planning and gameday coaching, Petrino is pretty damn good.

    This Bama team is battle hardened with a lot of big-game experience.  I honestly don't think home field advantage will mean much.

     

    No I know you didnt say that but the other dude did so I was just putting that in there. Man, if we are only giving credit to coaches who have won a national title then there arent many good coaches out there. I happen to be of the thinking that there are a lot more than that.

    Also, (im not directing this at you jimmy but the other guy) if that is your reasoning then I think Penn State has the best coach in the world and they lost to Alabama. Your reasoning is just wrong. Im not even saying Petrino is better but come on GTFO if you think its not close.

     

     
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    Posted: Sep. 21, 2010 - 4:55 PM ET #85

    Quote Originally Posted by SatNightFever05:



    So you are saying if Arkansas lost to UGA, this line would be the same? 


    Yes
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    Quote Originally Posted by SatNightFever05:



    So you are saying if Arkansas lost to UGA, this line would be the same? 


    Yes
     
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    Posted: Sep. 21, 2010 - 4:58 PM ET #86

    Quote Originally Posted by jwheels86:


    Yes


    interesting..
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    Yes


    interesting..
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by jwheels86:



    You act like Arkansas has no athletes, their qb and atleast two WR's are laughing at anyone bama has in those positions. Arkansas is loaded with talent, NFL talent. Just like every other SEC team.
      I never said Arkansas didn't have athletes, only that Bama had better athletes. Its not just my opinion, its a fact. I am not interested in swaying your decision, I couldn't give a shit less who you bet on, so by all means, put your money where your mouth is, and bet on Arky. 
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    You act like Arkansas has no athletes, their qb and atleast two WR's are laughing at anyone bama has in those positions. Arkansas is loaded with talent, NFL talent. Just like every other SEC team.
      I never said Arkansas didn't have athletes, only that Bama had better athletes. Its not just my opinion, its a fact. I am not interested in swaying your decision, I couldn't give a shit less who you bet on, so by all means, put your money where your mouth is, and bet on Arky. 
     
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    Posted: Sep. 21, 2010 - 5:02 PM ET #88

    Why Bama will cover against Arkansas:

    #1: Alabama has 462 yds combined rushing against Arkansas the last two years with 6 TD's.

    #2: Alabama has outscored Arkansas 84-21 the last two years.

    #3; Ryan "I am over-rated" Mallet threw for only 160 yds 1TD and 1 INT.

    All this after putting up 400 yds and 5 td's against Georgia the week before.

    Alabama is way too strong on all three sides of the ball for Arkansas to even come close.

    Roll Tide Roll.

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    Why Bama will cover against Arkansas:

    #1: Alabama has 462 yds combined rushing against Arkansas the last two years with 6 TD's.

    #2: Alabama has outscored Arkansas 84-21 the last two years.

    #3; Ryan "I am over-rated" Mallet threw for only 160 yds 1TD and 1 INT.

    All this after putting up 400 yds and 5 td's against Georgia the week before.

    Alabama is way too strong on all three sides of the ball for Arkansas to even come close.

    Roll Tide Roll.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by jwheels86:



    You act like Arkansas has no athletes, their qb and atleast two WR's are laughing at anyone bama has in those positions. Arkansas is loaded with talent, NFL talent. Just like every other SEC team.
    do you know how rediculous that statement is? 
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    You act like Arkansas has no athletes, their qb and atleast two WR's are laughing at anyone bama has in those positions. Arkansas is loaded with talent, NFL talent. Just like every other SEC team.
    do you know how rediculous that statement is? 
     
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    Posted: Sep. 21, 2010 - 5:07 PM ET #90

    Quote Originally Posted by SatNightFever05:

    Why would Bama have this game circled, esp with UF on deck..

    Did you just gloss over the Ole Miss example or ignore it entirely?

    Why would Bama have the UF game circled? The Tide killed the Gators last season, they're playing UF at home and Florida is not in Bama's division. A loss against Florida does not derail Bama's season like losing to Arkansas would. Sure you want to win every game, but if Bama loses to the Hogs, their odds of going to the SEC Championship game get much longer. Also it's the SEC opener against a team whose bandwagon got so big the wheels are about to fall off. Just like Ole Miss didn't have a QB, Arkansas does not have a defense. Bama's gonna hit 40 or get very close to it in this game, so you had better believe Arky will reach 35+ or else they will not cover.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SatNightFever05:

    Why would Bama have this game circled, esp with UF on deck..

    Did you just gloss over the Ole Miss example or ignore it entirely?

    Why would Bama have the UF game circled? The Tide killed the Gators last season, they're playing UF at home and Florida is not in Bama's division. A loss against Florida does not derail Bama's season like losing to Arkansas would. Sure you want to win every game, but if Bama loses to the Hogs, their odds of going to the SEC Championship game get much longer. Also it's the SEC opener against a team whose bandwagon got so big the wheels are about to fall off. Just like Ole Miss didn't have a QB, Arkansas does not have a defense. Bama's gonna hit 40 or get very close to it in this game, so you had better believe Arky will reach 35+ or else they will not cover.

     
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    Posted: Sep. 21, 2010 - 5:09 PM ET #91

    I do have to laugh at the thought of having UF 'on deck' though...I'm sure Saban is spending all his time on the Gators and their juggernaut offense this week
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    I do have to laugh at the thought of having UF 'on deck' though...I'm sure Saban is spending all his time on the Gators and their juggernaut offense this week
     
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    Posted: Sep. 21, 2010 - 5:09 PM ET #92

    Quote Originally Posted by stichael23:

    Mallett is going to have a field day tearing apart bama's young and inexperienced secondary. Bama will get their points as well. I believe a play on the over is called for.
    this is coming from a Barner....surprise...
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    Quote Originally Posted by stichael23:

    Mallett is going to have a field day tearing apart bama's young and inexperienced secondary. Bama will get their points as well. I believe a play on the over is called for.
    this is coming from a Barner....surprise...
     
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    Posted: Sep. 21, 2010 - 5:15 PM ET #93

    Quote Originally Posted by tideman:

    do you know how rediculous that statement is? 


    Are you telling me most teams in the SEC don't have at least one NFL talent on their team?
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    Quote Originally Posted by tideman:

    do you know how rediculous that statement is? 


    Are you telling me most teams in the SEC don't have at least one NFL talent on their team?
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by tideman:

      I never said Arkansas didn't have athletes, only that Bama had better athletes. Its not just my opinion, its a fact. I am not interested in swaying your decision, I couldn't give a shit less who you bet on, so by all means, put your money where your mouth is, and bet on Arky. 


    Im not trying to sway anyone, seems like everyone is having to try not to upset the Bama fans by saying anything positive about Arkansas.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tideman:

      I never said Arkansas didn't have athletes, only that Bama had better athletes. Its not just my opinion, its a fact. I am not interested in swaying your decision, I couldn't give a shit less who you bet on, so by all means, put your money where your mouth is, and bet on Arky. 


    Im not trying to sway anyone, seems like everyone is having to try not to upset the Bama fans by saying anything positive about Arkansas.
     
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    Posted: Sep. 21, 2010 - 5:18 PM ET #95

    tease bama with south carolina 
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    Posted: Sep. 21, 2010 - 5:19 PM ET #96

    Saban getting way too much credit. Big games hes a puttz.

    The National Championship last year, he got outcoached remarkably - in the first quarter alone.

    They really killed Utah in that bowl game, too.

    What has Saban done that we are hosing him down?
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    Saban getting way too much credit. Big games hes a puttz.

    The National Championship last year, he got outcoached remarkably - in the first quarter alone.

    They really killed Utah in that bowl game, too.

    What has Saban done that we are hosing him down?
     
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    I love that this is an Arkansas game that we are talking about first of all, the excitement I have for this Saturday is amazing. So for this reason I dont want to say whether or not Arkansas or Bama is going to cover.

    Instead let me talk about thought processes that go into betting sports. I think that taking what happened in last years game is completely meaningless especially in college football.

    These teams change dramatically from year to year, this isnt the pros where people play together on the same team for a decade. Its all about matchups, how is THIS Arkansas team going to play against THIS Alabama team THIS Saturday. Im glad everyone is confident in their plays for whatever side you are on but I (like I know many of you) have been betting for a while and I put a lot of thought into it. Therefore, I dont understand how I can see so many posts about how sure everyone is that Bama is going to cruise in this game and cover by 2 tds and such.

     

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    I love that this is an Arkansas game that we are talking about first of all, the excitement I have for this Saturday is amazing. So for this reason I dont want to say whether or not Arkansas or Bama is going to cover.

    Instead let me talk about thought processes that go into betting sports. I think that taking what happened in last years game is completely meaningless especially in college football.

    These teams change dramatically from year to year, this isnt the pros where people play together on the same team for a decade. Its all about matchups, how is THIS Arkansas team going to play against THIS Alabama team THIS Saturday. Im glad everyone is confident in their plays for whatever side you are on but I (like I know many of you) have been betting for a while and I put a lot of thought into it. Therefore, I dont understand how I can see so many posts about how sure everyone is that Bama is going to cruise in this game and cover by 2 tds and such.

     

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Icantfeelmyface:

    No I know you didnt say that but the other dude did so I was just putting that in there. Man, if we are only giving credit to coaches who have won a national title then there arent many good coaches out there. I happen to be of the thinking that there are a lot more than that.

    Also, (im not directing this at you jimmy but the other guy) if that is your reasoning then I think Penn State has the best coach in the world and they lost to Alabama. Your reasoning is just wrong. Im not even saying Petrino is better but come on GTFO if you think its not close.

     

    How is my reasoning wrong, Petrino isnt in Saben's class or in JoePa's class and what does Penn State going into BAMA and losing have anything to do with anything, Im talking about ELITE coaches bud, Petrino isnt one of them. Sorry. This should not even be a discussion and you might find out the hard way sat. GL either way
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    No I know you didnt say that but the other dude did so I was just putting that in there. Man, if we are only giving credit to coaches who have won a national title then there arent many good coaches out there. I happen to be of the thinking that there are a lot more than that.

    Also, (im not directing this at you jimmy but the other guy) if that is your reasoning then I think Penn State has the best coach in the world and they lost to Alabama. Your reasoning is just wrong. Im not even saying Petrino is better but come on GTFO if you think its not close.

     

    How is my reasoning wrong, Petrino isnt in Saben's class or in JoePa's class and what does Penn State going into BAMA and losing have anything to do with anything, Im talking about ELITE coaches bud, Petrino isnt one of them. Sorry. This should not even be a discussion and you might find out the hard way sat. GL either way
     
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    Posted: Sep. 21, 2010 - 5:36 PM ET #99

    Nick Saban circles every game!!!! ROLL TIDE!!!!!!!!!
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    Nick Saban circles every game!!!! ROLL TIDE!!!!!!!!!
     
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kraze:

    I wouldn't bet against this bama team right now  
       I hear that! Im gonna ride Bama til they fall! I have seen most of the top twenty, and any team that makes it to #2 would not be close to how good this Bama team is!!!!! GL this week Guys! PG
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    I wouldn't bet against this bama team right now  
       I hear that! Im gonna ride Bama til they fall! I have seen most of the top twenty, and any team that makes it to #2 would not be close to how good this Bama team is!!!!! GL this week Guys! PG
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