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Posted: #51
Quote Originally Posted by Boom_Boom:

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Look guy. You aren't here to talk football.... you are here to Troll.

So please just move along

You're right...I don't visit your threads to "talk football"...why would I when your posts are always so comical and really have very little to offer substance wise.  I come here for the entertainment value and to read what OTHERS say in your thread...its just unfortunate that your thread gets so much traffic...kind of like a reality TV series..

LOL again that you state I'm not here to talk football yet your OP has little to do with breaking down the game and more so about bama having arrogant fans (I think their success speaks for itself so their arrogance may be justified) and Manziel being the only factor in winning this game and covering the spread.  If it was that simple, why not just blindly bet AM the rest of the way cause they have Manziel?  Did you put a futures wager on A&M for the NC since the fact that Manziel is playing is all that is required right?
 
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a lot of Alabama fans weren't happy when Saban was hired ?
 
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Posted: #53
Quote Originally Posted by Boom_Boom:

 This game IMO has been hyped up more then the last 2 National Championship games. But for many many weeks now I have been in deep thought about this game. This game too intrigues me not only as gambler, but as a fan too. The real simple question is, who will win? Plain and simple. I know that sounds like the dull not out of the box type of question, but simply it's really the only question that matters. As I said, I have been really thinking and studying this game for some time and I have what I think is a pretty good take on it.

Several years ago, 2007 to be exact. Alabama was a football team that was simply looking for it's way. They had tons of historical football tradition, but they were stuck in what alot of programs go through from time to time called the " Dark Ages ". This was a program that lost to teams like N. Illinois at home, which btw.... snapped a 23 game losing streak by doing so. Can you imagine Alabama losing to team at home now that was currently on a 23 game losing streak? So yeah, are you with me now? This was a program that was trying to " find it's way ". A very loyal fan base too. A fan Base that was dying for a winner. A fan base that was hungry and desperate to re gain it's power. Then came Nick Saban. A guy who most didn't like. To be honest with you alot of Alabama fans were not happy he was hired when he was. Alot of you probably don't remember but Bama actually offered the job to Rich Rod first, LOL. But nevertheless Nick came and turned the program around.

Alabama's re gain to national power actually came at the hands of the Clemson tigers in 2008 when the season opened. I remember it quite well too, we were -4.5 point favorites. But Alabama won that game that night and really to use the term, the program was " born again ". Alabama football was back.

From 2008 to about 2011 the fans, players and Alum were what I thought grateful. They were humble and thankful that there once mighty and powerful program was again on top. They loved it. It had be too long and as I said, they were certainly grateful for it. But, somewhere around the end of the 2011 season these fans, Alums and players have grown to become arrogant and ungrateful. They almost seem as the universe is Alabama, and we are all just the small planets hovering around them. At times I have seen there fans laugh and snicker at the thought of someone competing with them. They have become delusional at times and not having the ability to see truth in front of them as they once did when they were humble and thankful. Now when you talk to the Alabama fans they have a " swag " about them as if you don't exist and neither does your opinion.

Since the beatdown Johnny football gave Alabama last November. The Alabama fans, Alum and players have stated that a beatdown is coming their way this Saturday like they have never seen before. Forget the X's and O's of the game of football! We are Alabama! You will not embarrass us. This game is already decided! WE ARE ALABAMA! We hate you for not being a 20 year old kid. We hate you because you made us look like fools! How dare anyone challenge us, we are Alabama!

The media, Alabama influenced ( Paul Finebaum ) has made a point to try and destroy the image or anything that has to do with Johnny Football. These guys HATE Johnny football. The state of Alabama hates Johnny Football. They have tried anything and everything to destroy this kids name. I have never in my life seen a flat out attack on a kid like these guys have done with Johnny. Yeah Johnny has done somethings that he shouldn't have like talking smack on the field or using his twitter account to voice his frustrations. But what really has he done to be labeled as this guy who is the worst human on the planet? Signed some autographs for money? Yeah, you would too, right? Went to a few concerts and got to meet the stars of the show? Yeah, I would too and so would you....had we had the chance. What else? Screwed more chicks then the average college guy? Yeah, none of you would have I bet. So what has he really done? He beat Alabama. That's his crime. He beat the all-knowing, most arrogant, most delusional, most self serving fans...alums.... media base and players in the game. How dare he challenge our spotlight! So what do we do? We attack him! When we get our shot again, we will beat him by 4 or more TD's. 

There is one problem. You can't. You can't stop him. You can't stop the offense, you can't and you won't. This offense gives Saban fits and I don't care what any of you say about extra preparation. You can simulate it all you want and scheme all you want but you cant stop him, Johnny Football. No more of this nonsense of revenge or " we have been preparing for a year " nonsense. The truth is coming Saturday and his name is Johnny Manziel. Don't believe for one second this kid hasn't been waiting for this either, cause he has. The great ones strive in moments likes these. Johnny has been waiting and the time is coming. Come Saturday, Alabama better leave all that arrogance at home....cause the pride they have will fall in College Station if they think the Football world owes them something. 


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guys come on now think about it....of course boomer wants the tide to lose cause that helps out clemson,and thats all he cares about!!...he already took a&m as one of his picks so did u think he would bash them here?lol....boomer will never admit this but he knows bama is going to win this game,but is praying they win by 8 or less....although he will be praying a&m pulls the upset to help his tigers......and in the big picture this is bamas only threat other than lsu(at home)....now if a&m wins and they still got 2 road blocks in their schedule with ark and lsu on road! ...trust me he looked at this and its his best option....of course he will now rip me and say im nuts with some silly yellow faces but we all know im right!
 
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Posted: #54

Quote Originally Posted by JFen31:

I've distilled the original post down into a more user-friendly version:

(1) Who will win?
(2) 'Bama was really bad
(3) Obligatory Clemson reference.
(4) Now 'Bama is good.
(5) But their fans are too arrogant.
(6) Therefore A & M will win.

 

Thank God for Clemson making Alabama better...

 
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Booms bull*** agenda just gets called out more by the second. Yet he's just being "real" and everyone else is "clueless and biased"..
 
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Posted: #56
JF is the most exciting player in college football and i really enjoy watching him, but he seems like kind of a prick and really needs to be knocked down a peg. I don't think this game is about offense because both teams will be able to score. I think it's about who will make the bigger plays on defense and i believe that will be Bama. Anything under 8 and i'm taking Bama. GL all!
 
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And we all see how Boom is just as arrogant about Clemson as some Bama fans are about their school. He thinks only Bama fans hate JF- fact is the kid is an egotistical "me" prick-  His obvious talent makes people like Boom look past his flaws- just saying he is a 20 yr old kid who makes mistakes doesnt cut it in my book- JF has no class- none! Hell you dont see any other high profile QB's acting like a donkey- McCarron- class act- Taj Boyd- never see him acting like that- JF gives them a shot against Bama but it wont be enough- the A&M defense is not good- Bama 's defense is- defense wins championships- Bama 38-23!
 
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Im predicting AM doesnt score over 20 Bama will have 3 or 4 interceptions and BAMA will be near 50plus. You heard it here boys. No one talks about AJ hes mister smooth and does not make mistakes. Don't care what anyone says. The bet is BAMA and if they don't cover so be it but it is the only bet.
 
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Posted: #59
Quote Originally Posted by WahooS:



A&M would have 500 yards of offense against Va Tech every day of the week and twice on Sunday
And they woulda needed every yard of it......
 
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Quote Originally Posted by TRAIN69:

And they woulda needed every yard of it......


bout time you showed up...  

T, care to give us your thoughts on this game?
 
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I typically bet $50-$100 a game but wanted to put 2k on Bama this week.  I was going to wait to read Boom's take on this game as typically he has some good insight.  After reading this so-called "analysis" I still see no reason not to lay the hammer down on Bama.  Boom, Ive read your opinions for years and do respect them, but there is absolutely no pertinent information contained in this writer-up, and I see no justification for an A&M bet based on your writings.  However, Best of luck.
 
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Posted: #62
Well it is gambling . But I would not bet against A&M. I fell into this trap last year. A&M had some shitty defense games against ole miss and la tech
I'm thinking bama -13 at home boy was I wrong worst part is I reloaded at half
I was at the ranch hunting so I was getting spotty updates on my phone .
A&M is not the same team under summlin A&M would always play well in the 1st half and crader in the 2nd half made a ton on money over the years not anymore . Also Johnny will be even more dangerous this year he has improve as passer so go ahead and spy on him and see what happens . Not taking either team but will be rooting for A&M as there are my team

Side note I cannot post start a thread from my laptop click on the button but nothing pop ups screen just stays black
 
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best of luck ...
 
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I actually enjoyed the brief history reminder of the Tide program. They have been on top for a few years so many don't recall what it was like just before that.

And the hate parade on Manziel is ridiculous, but so American! Boost somebody to the top, and then revel in any shortcomings or failures!

Truth is, the kid is a phenomenal football player, and love him or hate him, he is electric to watch.

There are many myths associated with Saban and Tide football, but here's a stat that surprised me a little: Saban is 8-5 in revenge situations. I don't know about you, but I assumed it was greater than that.

Anyway, having been to numerous games at Kyle Field, and being on the field when A&M nearly upset #1 Oklahoma in the year that OU won the title ( 2004ish), and trust me when I tell you there aren't many more intimidating or loud places for an opponent to come in and win.

Kevin Sumlin is an outstanding football coach, but defense has never been his strong suit. Alabama offense didn't show much in their opener, but perhaps that was by design, or perhaps it was because it was rust in the opener.

A&M defense allowed 600 yards to Rice, and 28 points to FCS SHSU, so that is what gives me a problem predicting the upset.

I see Alabama 38-28 in my little crystal ball
 
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Quote Originally Posted by jwheels86:

Booms bull*** agenda just gets called out more by the second. Yet he's just being "real" and everyone else is "clueless and biased"..


Listen guy.... if you dont want me speaking to you...then stay out of my threads.

  take a hike
 
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Quote Originally Posted by incognegro:

I typically bet $50-$100 a game but wanted to put 2k on Bama this week.  I was going to wait to read Boom's take on this game as typically he has some good insight.  After reading this so-called "analysis" I still see no reason not to lay the hammer down on Bama.  Boom, Ive read your opinions for years and do respect them, but there is absolutely no pertinent information contained in this writer-up, and I see no justification for an A&M bet based on your writings.  However, Best of luck.


Fair enough.... BOL either way you go.

But don't let the moral of the story pass you by..... Johnny is the breakdown.... along with the myth of bama will win because of them being " bama "....



 
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Guys....... To all that agree or disagree.



 
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This one of those games where it could go either way but it'll only go one way.  No matter which way it goes, you're going to have one side saying "I TOLD YOU SO! " and the other side saying "I bet the right side, but the game didn't go as it was supposed to "   Personally, there are just wayyyy too many variables in this game to cap it.  I'll be eating popcorn enjoying the game betting on games that are easier to cap.

I love how people get so personal about games when someone isn't on "their side".  Get over it.


 
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Quote Originally Posted by Noonkid:

This one of those games where it could go either way but it'll only go one way.  No matter which way it goes, you're going to have one side saying "I TOLD YOU SO! " and the other side saying "I bet the right side, but the game didn't go as it was supposed to "   Personally, there are just wayyyy too many variables in this game to cap it.  I'll be eating popcorn enjoying the game betting on games that are easier to cap.

I love how people get so personal about games when someone isn't on "their side".  Get over it.




yep....

It's amazing on here the response one can get for having an opinion.

It's funny.... I can post something about the way I think a game will go............then boom! These guys will come out attacking me saying this and that.

If I post a thought on something around here...it's like that thought is he held before " Covers Congress "....and the mob



 
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Quote Originally Posted by Boom_Boom:

 stuff, stuff, stuff...
There is one problem. You can't. You can't stop him. You can't stop the offense, you can't and you won't......stuff stuff stuff


A&M may cover and they may even win, but the thought that JF is unstoppable doesn't mesh with reality. Believe it or not, JF lost TWICE at HOME last year and had poor or mediocre games each time:



There is no question that JF dominated in the 1Q in last years game, but after Bama made defensive adjustments which will no doubt carry into this game. 
 
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Quote Originally Posted by abizzo24:

Boom, let me start by saying I appreciate what you do for this forum.  You have passion for this great game and it definitely show by the time and effort you put in.  And kudos to your great start to the year.  

With that said, I think you've gone AWOL here.  In games like this defense is huge.  plain and simple, bama's defense is loaded, a&m's defense is soft.   Preparation in games like this matters. with that said, you still have time to reverse course here and I hope you consider doing just that.  Nobody will fault you for changing course.  


This is the end of the story here for me, I think abizzo hit this one on the head


 
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Quote Originally Posted by JFen31:

I've distilled the original post down into a more user-friendly version:

(1) Who will win?
(2) 'Bama was really bad
(3) Obligatory Clemson reference.
(4) Now 'Bama is good.
(5) But their fans are too arrogant.
(6) Therefore A & M will win.


Always entertaining once JFen chimes in.
 
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Quote Originally Posted by Boom_Boom:



Fair enough.... BOL either way you go.

But don't let the moral of the story pass you by..... Johnny is the breakdown.... along with the myth of bama will win because of them being " bama "....





Keep in mind that when Jefferson beat Bama in the reg season, Bama beat LSU in the BCS title game.  Also, Florida and Tebow got the best of the tide in 2008, but what happened in 2009?  Bama took care of business.  Manziel got em last year, but what will happen this year?  Based on previous experience, I gotta go Bama or nothing.  Good Luck!
 
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Alabama hasn't been a "bad champion," per se. They have been better than most. Arrogance comes with pride and confidence and can be misinterpreted. Clemson would probably act the same way. I just think Alabama's scheduling of fruitcakes, cupcakes and glazed donuts has been a disservice to the national scene; I also think that partnerships with conferences at the college level should be disallowed--ie, ESPN and the SEC. This creates a lot of underhanded, shady dealings; 'free' hype and positive pub; and a definite conflict of interest with big business. There are no laws yet on the books to prohibit or control it, so it is currently out of control. The BCS is also controlled by SEC and ESPN backdoor contrivers and mid managers.

Bama has an inside track once again in this the final year of the non-playoff BCS. I think one loss to A & M will be too much this time. Ohio St and Oregon (easier schedule this yr) could lock out a 1 loss SEC school (well, who knows how the politics would go_.

Johnny Football is impossible to assign defenders to b/c he is able to define a play as it unfolds.

McCarron will be in trouble trying to audibilize in the loudest venue (people right on top of the plays and A&M yellers working all game long), and this has been his forte the last two seasons (that I can remember--even the NC last year.)

 
 
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Posted: #75
Quote Originally Posted by kaponofor3:



This is the end of the story here for me, I think abizzo hit this one on the head




Really?


Because this game is changing. Why you say.... just open your eyes.

Look at the SEC Championship game last year... it had almost 1000yds of offense in it.

Look at that GREAT South Carolina defense this year..... They gave up 41 to Georgia....more then Clemson gave up btw...


But here is the truth that people dont want to acknowledge.... the saying Defense rules the day.....is really almost a afterthought now. This game....College football.... is about scoring points now. Yeah having a defense is a bonus....


But understand that this game is CHANGING
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