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Droxside

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Posted: Nov. 30, 2009 - 5:39 PM ET #26

I do not necessarily agree or disagree with all of the comments above, but the current system is the biggest joke in all of sport. Determining the champion on popularity votes determined by how the masses feel on any given week, month or year is ridiculous.
Why even crown a champion if it has no merit? Why are Cincinnati, TCU and Boise St even playing in this division if they have no chance to play for the championship, I thought this was a sport?

Spin it any way that you want. However, college football is a great product on the field, but the biggest joke in all of sports in determining a champion which is wrong in so many ways. At the very least an 8 team play-off, a 16 team like the lower divisions would be best. Keep the bowl games (there are so many now it would be easy to do) and start deciding the champion of college football with the most exciting tournament in all of sport instead of a vote by people which make the champion meaningless. P.S...Do not give me this "it gives us something to talk about BS either. We talk about the recession but it still sux and does not make it any better...

koko11

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Posted: Nov. 30, 2009 - 5:47 PM ET #27

Quote Originally Posted by westcoastTrojan:

the only thing good about college basketball is the tourney. The regular season sucks now, with the one and done rule.

College hoops use to be my favorite, but now I only look forward to the tourney, mainly for the pools.

But week to week, football is much better, not even close.

Agreed... CBB is really a fucking joke.. The Reg. season almost does not matter... A team can go .500 and have a shot... Really makes no sense.. CFB you have to either go undefeated or 1 lose, exeption was LSU with 2 loses where everyone sucked that year.... I would be in favor of a 4 team playoff but beyond that it gets out of hand..

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Posted: Dec. 1, 2009 - 10:06 AM ET #28

Quote Originally Posted by MaineRoad:

College football "fans" are divided into two camps - those who love college football and those who love their particular college football team. Virtually every "college football fan" I've met in Celveland or Pittsburgh is actually an Ohio State or Penn State fan. They will not be watching Oregon/Oregon State this Thursday. Some, like me, love college football itself (though I root for UVa and LSU), and can't wait to watch Oregon/Oregon State this Thursday.

If you're a fan of a particular team, of course you want a playoff, because nothing else matters but the success or failure of your team. If you love the sport itself, I think it gets more complicated. I am against a playoff, though the price I pay for that is having a team like TCU frozen out every once in a while. I understand people who disagree with me, but please note that college basketball has just begun its three-month exhibition calendar, during which the only things at stake in most games is what color uniform a team will be wearing in the second round of its conference tournament. Every now and then, we'll see a game that is critical for determining whether Cal or Arizona State gets the 5th bid from the Pac-10. Please wake me in March.

Again, I understand the desire for a football playoff, but it's a lot more complicated than "just do it like they do it in basketball."

well said............

sergio1994

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Posted: Dec. 1, 2009 - 10:31 AM ET #29

the post season is irrelevant for all but a handful of schools. having a bowl game for a school that goes 7-6 is like giving out lollipops for participation. if the economics are as such to continue this baffoonery, then by all means...lollipops for everyone! that's why its the WORST post season around.

having a BCS playoff makes a lot of sense = 6 bcs bids and 2 at-larges. That means adding semifinal and finals games, only 4 schools would have an additional one game, and the finalists would be the only schools to have two additional games on their current schedule.

If you really hate all the bowls...DON'T SUPPORT IT. DON'T TALK ABOUT IT. DON'T BET IT. DON'T GO TO THE GAMES. Of course, if you want a lollipop, i suggest you suck your thumb!

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Posted: Dec. 1, 2009 - 10:32 AM ET #30

Would you play the games at the higher seeded teams home field? If you did, that would not be fair. If you played at neutral sites, then the logistics of getting 70,000 to 100,000 fans to a game with 1 week notice would be almost impossible. With basketball, you have 4 or 8 teams playing at a venue and they only have to fill 15,000 to 20,000 seats.

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Posted: Dec. 1, 2009 - 10:39 AM ET #31

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Posted: Dec. 1, 2009 - 11:34 AM ET #32

Quote Originally Posted by thorpe:

Would you play the games at the higher seeded teams home field? If you did, that would not be fair. If you played at neutral sites, then the logistics of getting 70,000 to 100,000 fans to a game with 1 week notice would be almost impossible. With basketball, you have 4 or 8 teams playing at a venue and they only have to fill 15,000 to 20,000 seats.

First person to get it...

Plus with playoffs then everyone would just argue about how their "path" to the finals was so much harder than the other guys, etc... Playoffs wouldn't change anything.

In CBB the more battle tested you are the better your chances in the tournament. In CFB the more battle tested you are the more likely you have players injured and can't play later in the year....

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Posted: Dec. 1, 2009 - 12:30 PM ET #33

A playoff system works in the FCS series, why not the FBS?

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Posted: Dec. 1, 2009 - 2:30 PM ET #34

I was a big playoff advocate until a couple of years ago - when Arkansas beat LSU and Pitt upset WVU - when it made me realize that each week matters.

Look at it this way if their was a tournament would the SEC and Big 12 title game mean anything this weekend. In my view... no, both games wouldn't mean a thing since Bama and UF would be going into any type of tournament regardless of the SEC Championship games outcome. The same could be said of Texas. If it lost the title game it still would be going to into an 8 team tourney.

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Posted: Dec. 1, 2009 - 3:23 PM ET #35

Quote Originally Posted by Warblade:

A playoff system works in the FCS series, why not the FBS?

There is no scrutiny in FCS. A team today in FCS could get completely shafted and no one would notice.

Plus, the travel parties are maybe 500 strong so you don't have logistical problems with making travel arrangements on 1 week notice. If Nebraska or Wisconsin was in a FBS playoff, the travelling parties would be 50,000 strong. All those people have to find hotel lodging on 1 week's notice which is almost impossible. With a Bowl, they have 5 or 6 weeks.

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Posted: Dec. 1, 2009 - 3:46 PM ET #36

In the NFL, a team can lose a few games and still win the Super Bowl.

I like the fact that in college you can't do that. Every game is a must win.

Besides, the only way to really know which team is the best would require a best of 7 format. That's not possible in football.

With a playoff there is only one winner and everyone else is a loser. That will leave a bad taste in the mouth of most fans.

Just get rid of the BCS. It's a joke. Let AP do the final poll and let the debates begin. That was always fun.

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Posted: Dec. 1, 2009 - 4:47 PM ET #37

Quote Originally Posted by MaineRoad:

Again, I understand the desire for a football playoff, but it's a lot more complicated than "just do it like they do it in basketball."

agree completely.

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Posted: Dec. 1, 2009 - 5:19 PM ET #38

I personally love Bowl Season.. few games are easy pickens to make some $$

On that same note, I'm against a playoff because it will dilute the Reg Season.. like few others have said here- CFB is sweet because you gotta win basically every week to stand a chance..

However, I would do away with the PreSeason Rankings and having a +1 system would be the best. This year we could end up with 4 undefeated teams and it would be nice to see them in a 4 team playoff..

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Posted: Dec. 2, 2009 - 12:14 AM ET #39

Quote Originally Posted by Warblade:

A playoff system works in the FCS series, why not the FBS?

FCS commissioners are on record saying they preferred and wanted a bowl system but could not get enough financial support for it so they opted for a bowl system as their only alternative.

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Posted: Dec. 2, 2009 - 1:46 PM ET #40

Quote Originally Posted by koko11:

CBB is not ajoke. Yeah its flawed a bit but still every game in some way is playing for the ncaas. You are either playing to get in the tourney or improve your seeding. All games on the regular season go on your record and then are looked at by the selection committee. I know the selection committee makes mistakes but its still better than this crap.

Of all of the games last weekend how many actually mattered? When i say matter i mean impact the national title which is all i care about? Georgia -georgia tech? Meaningless. Usc-ucla? Nope. Lsu-ark? Even this thursdays oregon-ore st game. Sounds good right winner goes to the rose bowl? So what that has no impact on the natl title. Who ever wins that game can have a cookie for going to the rose bowl.

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Posted: Dec. 2, 2009 - 2:11 PM ET #41

Quote Originally Posted by Osirus13:

CBB is not ajoke. Yeah its flawed a bit but still every game in some way is playing for the ncaas. You are either playing to get in the tourney or improve your seeding. All games on the regular season go on your record and then are looked at by the selection committee. I know the selection committee makes mistakes but its still better than this crap.

If you think USC/UCLA is meaningless, then you must have only watched football for less than a year, and your opinion is meaningless. These rivalries go back to before there was a BCS or even a Bowl Game and are what make college football great. My school Cal sucked for many years, but we always felt that if we lost every game but beat Stanford then the season was a success.

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Posted: Dec. 2, 2009 - 2:14 PM ET #42

Quote Originally Posted by thorpe:

If you think USC/UCLA is meaningless, then you must have only watched football for less than a year, and your opinion is meaningless. These rivalries go back to before there was a BCS or even a Bowl Game and are what make college football great. My school Cal sucked for many years, but we always felt that if we lost every game but beat Stanford then the season was a success.

It was meaningless. Neither of them can do anything with there season. Nice win for the rivalry i get that. Translate that game to coll bball and they are playing for something at that point in the year... So what exactly did usc get for winning that game?

Osirus13

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Posted: Dec. 2, 2009 - 2:14 PM ET #43

If you think losing every game but beating your rival made the season a success your pathetic

Droxside

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Posted: Dec. 2, 2009 - 3:30 PM ET #44

The games are not meaningless. UCLA/USC or any other big game is obviously important. However, National championships are meaningless as long as the champion is determined anyway other then on the field. It is very sad that the greatest game on the field has rarely had a legitimate champion. Find a way to seed the teams and use home fields like the NFL and the stadiums will be full. It will cost bowl cities money, but who cares.

As things stand now, conference championships are the only one that matter. Look through history at the injustice that has happened so many times and will again this year. I do not care what anyone says...A team goes undefeated then it should have the right to lose on the field unlike Utah last year and the three undefeated teams this year. It is a joke...

Droxside

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Posted: Dec. 2, 2009 - 3:35 PM ET #45

I might add that some question the way seeds will be named, but any way beats the alternative. I think TCU would gladly play Texas, Florida or Alabama on the road if that were there only chance and make no mistake, at least one would have a decent chance of getting upset before TCU giving TCU home field advantage as Richmond did as a #4 seed last year...

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Posted: Dec. 2, 2009 - 3:40 PM ET #46

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ScamDCappn

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Posted: Dec. 2, 2009 - 3:43 PM ET #47

i find it hard to believe that if there were 7 playoff games at neutral sites they wouldnt sell out. think of how important this weekend would be if cincinnati pitt, oregon oregon st, florida alabama, texas nebraska, and clemson georgia tech were playing for a playoff spot. the argument the season would be dilluted is very lame here as well, you would have 4 undefeated teams with there heads on the line in the last game of the regular season.

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Posted: Dec. 2, 2009 - 3:44 PM ET #48

College Basketball is a JOKE...

64 Teams make the "Big Dance" and atleast 16+ teams are always Bitching and Moaning they should have got in...

the NIT is OK I Guess for the SR's to showcase their skills and play a few More games before moving on to the Real World ...

What about the Bullshit 2 other Tourney's they have

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Posted: Dec. 2, 2009 - 3:45 PM ET #49

College Football is the Best Sport on the Planet....

Every game is a MUST WIN

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ScamDCappn

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Posted: Dec. 2, 2009 - 3:45 PM ET #50

play a round christmas weekend a round new years weekend and then the championship, most people have work off that week anyways (christmas to new years).

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