@jefff Alabama is in for what they did. FSU had two games to prove they were the same team without Jordan. They failed to impress. Their 2nd or 3rd string QB isn’t beating anyone in semifinals.
Losing at home to Texas? Needing a 4th down miracle against kife Auburn team? What they did
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Quote Originally Posted by Hodge205:
@jefff Alabama is in for what they did. FSU had two games to prove they were the same team without Jordan. They failed to impress. Their 2nd or 3rd string QB isn’t beating anyone in semifinals.
Losing at home to Texas? Needing a 4th down miracle against kife Auburn team? What they did
FSU is in a no-win sitution. If they actually win the game, people will say big deal, they beat UGA's JV squad. If FSU loses, people will say it proves they didn't deserve to be in the playoff. The only logical conclusion is that this game really, really, really doesn't matter. So what should they do? I say turn it into a spectacle of epic proportions. Make it a game that people will be talking about 50 years from now.
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FSU is in a no-win sitution. If they actually win the game, people will say big deal, they beat UGA's JV squad. If FSU loses, people will say it proves they didn't deserve to be in the playoff. The only logical conclusion is that this game really, really, really doesn't matter. So what should they do? I say turn it into a spectacle of epic proportions. Make it a game that people will be talking about 50 years from now.
Their best wins are a 3 loss LSU team and a 4 loss clemson team...this is almost like saying James Madison deserved it if they finished undeated on when UCF went undefeated..FSU would have been a substantial dog against all 4 playoff teams and ACC is pure trash this year unfortunately
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Not necessarily punishing bc one player.....
Their best wins are a 3 loss LSU team and a 4 loss clemson team...this is almost like saying James Madison deserved it if they finished undeated on when UCF went undefeated..FSU would have been a substantial dog against all 4 playoff teams and ACC is pure trash this year unfortunately
But they didn’t deserve it. After they lost their quaterback that barely won their last 2 games. So Alabama beats Georgia that hasn’t lost in 2 years. It makes total sense. It’s a comity
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But they didn’t deserve it. After they lost their quaterback that barely won their last 2 games. So Alabama beats Georgia that hasn’t lost in 2 years. It makes total sense. It’s a comity
@Bruins4Life Not necessarily punishing bc one player..... Their best wins are a 3 loss LSU team and a 4 loss clemson team...this is almost like saying James Madison deserved it if they finished undeated on when UCF went undefeated..FSU would have been a substantial dog against all 4 playoff teams and ACC is pure trash this year unfortunately
The same LSU team that is in the mighty SEC? The same conference that analysts claim is such a tough league top to bottom and hands down better than all of the rest by a mile?? Beat that same LSU team by 3 tds on a neutral field, when Bama beat that team by 14 at home. Hmmm. Something is not adding up.
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Quote Originally Posted by payne034:
@Bruins4Life Not necessarily punishing bc one player..... Their best wins are a 3 loss LSU team and a 4 loss clemson team...this is almost like saying James Madison deserved it if they finished undeated on when UCF went undefeated..FSU would have been a substantial dog against all 4 playoff teams and ACC is pure trash this year unfortunately
The same LSU team that is in the mighty SEC? The same conference that analysts claim is such a tough league top to bottom and hands down better than all of the rest by a mile?? Beat that same LSU team by 3 tds on a neutral field, when Bama beat that team by 14 at home. Hmmm. Something is not adding up.
Yes the Same LSU in the mighty SEC... U know the one that had Kentucky go on the road and beat a 10-1 Ville team that played FSU in the ACC ship game and FSU struggled to beat Ville......Yes that SEC
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Yes the Same LSU in the mighty SEC... U know the one that had Kentucky go on the road and beat a 10-1 Ville team that played FSU in the ACC ship game and FSU struggled to beat Ville......Yes that SEC
@DeezyAZ81 Yes the Same LSU in the mighty SEC... U know the one that had Kentucky go on the road and beat a 10-1 Ville team....Yes that SEC
Funny how when Bama beats LSU at home, the analysts claim how red Hot Bama is and what a great win it is on their resume for the playoff. However, when FSU beats the same LSU by a touchdown more on a neutral field, you know the win means nothing because LSU sucks. Interesting because LSU was a top 3-4 team in the SEC all season.
Basically, you are admitting the SEC isn't that good?? Is that it now? You have been claiming the opposite for the last week.
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Quote Originally Posted by davemsh:
@DeezyAZ81 Yes the Same LSU in the mighty SEC... U know the one that had Kentucky go on the road and beat a 10-1 Ville team....Yes that SEC
Funny how when Bama beats LSU at home, the analysts claim how red Hot Bama is and what a great win it is on their resume for the playoff. However, when FSU beats the same LSU by a touchdown more on a neutral field, you know the win means nothing because LSU sucks. Interesting because LSU was a top 3-4 team in the SEC all season.
Basically, you are admitting the SEC isn't that good?? Is that it now? You have been claiming the opposite for the last week.
@DeezyAZ81 Yes the Same LSU in the mighty SEC... U know the one that had Kentucky go on the road and beat a 10-1 Ville team that played FSU in the ACC ship game and FSU struggled to beat Ville......Yes that SEC
Oh interesting. Isn't the Louisville Kentucky game a rivalry game?? Isn't that justification for sucking against a lesser opponent? Like the excuse you make for Bama looking like $hit against an Auburn team, which is worse than Kentucky, and needing a hail mary to win that game on 4th and 31? Kind of hurting your own weak arguments.
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Quote Originally Posted by davemsh:
@DeezyAZ81 Yes the Same LSU in the mighty SEC... U know the one that had Kentucky go on the road and beat a 10-1 Ville team that played FSU in the ACC ship game and FSU struggled to beat Ville......Yes that SEC
Oh interesting. Isn't the Louisville Kentucky game a rivalry game?? Isn't that justification for sucking against a lesser opponent? Like the excuse you make for Bama looking like $hit against an Auburn team, which is worse than Kentucky, and needing a hail mary to win that game on 4th and 31? Kind of hurting your own weak arguments.
Quote Originally Posted by davemsh: @DeezyAZ81 Yes the Same LSU in the mighty SEC... U know the one that had Kentucky go on the road and beat a 10-1 Ville team....Yes that SEC Funny how when Bama beats LSU at home, the analysts claim how red Hot Bama is and what a great win it is on their resume for the playoff. However, when FSU beats the same LSU by a touchdown more on a neutral field, you know the win means nothing because LSU sucks. Interesting because LSU was a top 3-4 team in the SEC all season. Basically, you are admitting the SEC isn't that good?? Is that it now? You have been claiming the opposite for the last week.
FSU had Jordan Travis when they beat LSU...Noone is arguing that had Travis been healthy FSU would have been a lock for the playoffs....The point everyone is making and u Cleary don't understand is that FSU is not the same team nor as good as when Travis was the starting QB...
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Quote Originally Posted by DeezyAZ81:
Quote Originally Posted by davemsh: @DeezyAZ81 Yes the Same LSU in the mighty SEC... U know the one that had Kentucky go on the road and beat a 10-1 Ville team....Yes that SEC Funny how when Bama beats LSU at home, the analysts claim how red Hot Bama is and what a great win it is on their resume for the playoff. However, when FSU beats the same LSU by a touchdown more on a neutral field, you know the win means nothing because LSU sucks. Interesting because LSU was a top 3-4 team in the SEC all season. Basically, you are admitting the SEC isn't that good?? Is that it now? You have been claiming the opposite for the last week.
FSU had Jordan Travis when they beat LSU...Noone is arguing that had Travis been healthy FSU would have been a lock for the playoffs....The point everyone is making and u Cleary don't understand is that FSU is not the same team nor as good as when Travis was the starting QB...
@DeezyAZ81 Yes the Same LSU in the mighty SEC... U know the one that had Kentucky go on the road and beat a 10-1 Ville team that played FSU in the ACC ship game and FSU struggled to beat Ville......Yes that SEC
Struggled to win? They won by Double digts with a 3rd string , Frosh QB who never started a game before and did not allow a TD all game. Allowed -23 4th quarter yards. I do not think FSU was the team struggling.
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Quote Originally Posted by davemsh:
@DeezyAZ81 Yes the Same LSU in the mighty SEC... U know the one that had Kentucky go on the road and beat a 10-1 Ville team that played FSU in the ACC ship game and FSU struggled to beat Ville......Yes that SEC
Struggled to win? They won by Double digts with a 3rd string , Frosh QB who never started a game before and did not allow a TD all game. Allowed -23 4th quarter yards. I do not think FSU was the team struggling.
Quote Originally Posted by davemsh: @DeezyAZ81 Yes the Same LSU in the mighty SEC... U know the one that had Kentucky go on the road and beat a 10-1 Ville team that played FSU in the ACC ship game and FSU struggled to beat Ville......Yes that SEC Oh interesting. Isn't the Louisville Kentucky game a rivalry game?? Isn't that justification for sucking against a lesser opponent? Like the excuse you make for Bama looking like $hit against an Auburn team, which is worse than Kentucky, and needing a hail mary to win that game on 4th and 31? Kind of hurting your own weak arguments.
Bottom line is Bama beat Auburn..They won the game.....U bringing up Bama should have lost to Auburn...Well FSU should have lost to BC with a healthy travis..they didn't..they won as did Bama...
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Quote Originally Posted by DeezyAZ81:
Quote Originally Posted by davemsh: @DeezyAZ81 Yes the Same LSU in the mighty SEC... U know the one that had Kentucky go on the road and beat a 10-1 Ville team that played FSU in the ACC ship game and FSU struggled to beat Ville......Yes that SEC Oh interesting. Isn't the Louisville Kentucky game a rivalry game?? Isn't that justification for sucking against a lesser opponent? Like the excuse you make for Bama looking like $hit against an Auburn team, which is worse than Kentucky, and needing a hail mary to win that game on 4th and 31? Kind of hurting your own weak arguments.
Bottom line is Bama beat Auburn..They won the game.....U bringing up Bama should have lost to Auburn...Well FSU should have lost to BC with a healthy travis..they didn't..they won as did Bama...
There is no way they are going to chuck the 2-3 million dollar payday for the college.
Not sure if this is still the case, but it used to be that every conference member split the the bowl money. So they would be screwing the conference as well as their own program.
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Quote Originally Posted by Cooler999:
There is no way they are going to chuck the 2-3 million dollar payday for the college.
Not sure if this is still the case, but it used to be that every conference member split the the bowl money. So they would be screwing the conference as well as their own program.
Quote Originally Posted by DeezyAZ81: Quote Originally Posted by davemsh: @DeezyAZ81 Yes the Same LSU in the mighty SEC... U know the one that had Kentucky go on the road and beat a 10-1 Ville team....Yes that SEC Funny how when Bama beats LSU at home, the analysts claim how red Hot Bama is and what a great win it is on their resume for the playoff. However, when FSU beats the same LSU by a touchdown more on a neutral field, you know the win means nothing because LSU sucks. Interesting because LSU was a top 3-4 team in the SEC all season. Basically, you are admitting the SEC isn't that good?? Is that it now? You have been claiming the opposite for the last week. FSU had Jordan Travis when they beat LSU...Noone is arguing that had Travis been healthy FSU would have been a lock for the playoffs....The point everyone is making and u Cleary don't understand is that FSU is not the same team nor as good as when Travis was the starting QB...
The point is who cares? The committee, nor you, or anyone can predict how FSU would look with a month to prepare for the playoff games. It is not the job for the committee to cap future games. Should Michigan be pulled out of the playoff because they lost their best O lineman 2 weeks ago and have not looked good since??? Why is that injury not considered by the committee? You know Michigan just is not the same team or offense without OL Zak Zinter. Should not be in the playoff I guess right?
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Quote Originally Posted by davemsh:
Quote Originally Posted by DeezyAZ81: Quote Originally Posted by davemsh: @DeezyAZ81 Yes the Same LSU in the mighty SEC... U know the one that had Kentucky go on the road and beat a 10-1 Ville team....Yes that SEC Funny how when Bama beats LSU at home, the analysts claim how red Hot Bama is and what a great win it is on their resume for the playoff. However, when FSU beats the same LSU by a touchdown more on a neutral field, you know the win means nothing because LSU sucks. Interesting because LSU was a top 3-4 team in the SEC all season. Basically, you are admitting the SEC isn't that good?? Is that it now? You have been claiming the opposite for the last week. FSU had Jordan Travis when they beat LSU...Noone is arguing that had Travis been healthy FSU would have been a lock for the playoffs....The point everyone is making and u Cleary don't understand is that FSU is not the same team nor as good as when Travis was the starting QB...
The point is who cares? The committee, nor you, or anyone can predict how FSU would look with a month to prepare for the playoff games. It is not the job for the committee to cap future games. Should Michigan be pulled out of the playoff because they lost their best O lineman 2 weeks ago and have not looked good since??? Why is that injury not considered by the committee? You know Michigan just is not the same team or offense without OL Zak Zinter. Should not be in the playoff I guess right?
Quote Originally Posted by DeezyAZ81: Quote Originally Posted by davemsh: @DeezyAZ81 Yes the Same LSU in the mighty SEC... U know the one that had Kentucky go on the road and beat a 10-1 Ville team that played FSU in the ACC ship game and FSU struggled to beat Ville......Yes that SEC Oh interesting. Isn't the Louisville Kentucky game a rivalry game?? Isn't that justification for sucking against a lesser opponent? Like the excuse you make for Bama looking like $hit against an Auburn team, which is worse than Kentucky, and needing a hail mary to win that game on 4th and 31? Kind of hurting your own weak arguments. Bottom line is Bama beat Auburn..They won the game.....U bringing up Bama should have lost to Auburn...Well FSU should have lost to BC with a healthy travis..they didn't..they won as did Bama...
Bottom Line is that FSU beat Louisville and Florida, yet you keep bringing those games up. They won both games. Your logic is faulty.
Again. FSU was up 3 tds in the BC game. Bama was never up 3 tds against Auburn, so once again another awful comparison. Secondly, the BC was 3 months ago when Bama sucked too. The Auburn-Bama game was 2 weeks ago, much more recent and relevant.
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Quote Originally Posted by davemsh:
Quote Originally Posted by DeezyAZ81: Quote Originally Posted by davemsh: @DeezyAZ81 Yes the Same LSU in the mighty SEC... U know the one that had Kentucky go on the road and beat a 10-1 Ville team that played FSU in the ACC ship game and FSU struggled to beat Ville......Yes that SEC Oh interesting. Isn't the Louisville Kentucky game a rivalry game?? Isn't that justification for sucking against a lesser opponent? Like the excuse you make for Bama looking like $hit against an Auburn team, which is worse than Kentucky, and needing a hail mary to win that game on 4th and 31? Kind of hurting your own weak arguments. Bottom line is Bama beat Auburn..They won the game.....U bringing up Bama should have lost to Auburn...Well FSU should have lost to BC with a healthy travis..they didn't..they won as did Bama...
Bottom Line is that FSU beat Louisville and Florida, yet you keep bringing those games up. They won both games. Your logic is faulty.
Again. FSU was up 3 tds in the BC game. Bama was never up 3 tds against Auburn, so once again another awful comparison. Secondly, the BC was 3 months ago when Bama sucked too. The Auburn-Bama game was 2 weeks ago, much more recent and relevant.
Quote Originally Posted by DeezyAZ81: Quote Originally Posted by davemsh: @DeezyAZ81 Yes the Same LSU in the mighty SEC... U know the one that had Kentucky go on the road and beat a 10-1 Ville team that played FSU in the ACC ship game and FSU struggled to beat Ville......Yes that SEC Oh interesting. Isn't the Louisville Kentucky game a rivalry game?? Isn't that justification for sucking against a lesser opponent? Like the excuse you make for Bama looking like $hit against an Auburn team, which is worse than Kentucky, and needing a hail mary to win that game on 4th and 31? Kind of hurting your own weak arguments. Bottom line is Bama beat Auburn..They won the game.....U bringing up Bama should have lost to Auburn...Well FSU should have lost to BC with a healthy travis..they didn't..they won as did Bama...
Where did I say Bama should have lost in that post? I said Alabama needed a hail mary to win, which is factually true. Style points matter right according to you. Bama did not win in style at Auburn.
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Quote Originally Posted by davemsh:
Quote Originally Posted by DeezyAZ81: Quote Originally Posted by davemsh: @DeezyAZ81 Yes the Same LSU in the mighty SEC... U know the one that had Kentucky go on the road and beat a 10-1 Ville team that played FSU in the ACC ship game and FSU struggled to beat Ville......Yes that SEC Oh interesting. Isn't the Louisville Kentucky game a rivalry game?? Isn't that justification for sucking against a lesser opponent? Like the excuse you make for Bama looking like $hit against an Auburn team, which is worse than Kentucky, and needing a hail mary to win that game on 4th and 31? Kind of hurting your own weak arguments. Bottom line is Bama beat Auburn..They won the game.....U bringing up Bama should have lost to Auburn...Well FSU should have lost to BC with a healthy travis..they didn't..they won as did Bama...
Where did I say Bama should have lost in that post? I said Alabama needed a hail mary to win, which is factually true. Style points matter right according to you. Bama did not win in style at Auburn.
FSU beat a #5 LSU. Alabama BEAT A #14 LSU. Looking at the last 2 FSU games. At Florida 24-15. Neutral site beat Louisville 16-6.
I see FSU last 2 games as great wins. Commitee is bought and owned. This is no different than 2014. The 1st year of CFP. Cardale Jones wins 1 game. Drop TCU #3 TO #6. Elevate OSU to #4. OSU wins inaugural CFP as #4 seed. Follow the money!
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FSU beat a #5 LSU. Alabama BEAT A #14 LSU. Looking at the last 2 FSU games. At Florida 24-15. Neutral site beat Louisville 16-6.
I see FSU last 2 games as great wins. Commitee is bought and owned. This is no different than 2014. The 1st year of CFP. Cardale Jones wins 1 game. Drop TCU #3 TO #6. Elevate OSU to #4. OSU wins inaugural CFP as #4 seed. Follow the money!
FSU is in a no-win sitution. If they actually win the game, people will say big deal, they beat UGA's JV squad. If FSU loses, people will say it proves they didn't deserve to be in the playoff. The only logical conclusion is that this game really, really, really doesn't matter. So what should they do? I say turn it into a spectacle of epic proportions. Make it a game that people will be talking about 50 years from now.
I hardly think people will say big deal. However , I do agree with making it a game that People will be talking about 50 years from now..that FSU won a game str8 up as a 14 point dog and +470 ML vs Georgia, a team that won 3 consecutive NCG's ..now thats something to talk about.
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Quote Originally Posted by bluecompass:
FSU is in a no-win sitution. If they actually win the game, people will say big deal, they beat UGA's JV squad. If FSU loses, people will say it proves they didn't deserve to be in the playoff. The only logical conclusion is that this game really, really, really doesn't matter. So what should they do? I say turn it into a spectacle of epic proportions. Make it a game that people will be talking about 50 years from now.
I hardly think people will say big deal. However , I do agree with making it a game that People will be talking about 50 years from now..that FSU won a game str8 up as a 14 point dog and +470 ML vs Georgia, a team that won 3 consecutive NCG's ..now thats something to talk about.
Maybe FSU and Liberty should play each other in the Ty D Bowl and we should crown the winner as our national champion. I mean they are both undefeated and that is all that matters right? Gosh, CUSA and the ACC play just horribly brutal schedules as well.
Only 11 SEC teams are ranked in the top 50 in the college football power index. No, Alabama doesn't deserve to be in. Not at all. They have a loss to a lowly Texas team that also somehow got in to the dance with one loss. Alabama only beat 6 top 25 ranked opponents this year. They can't be more deserving than FSU. FSU beat Southern Miss, Boston College, and Wake Forest. Not to mention North Alabama!
I feel compassion for the FSU kids, but the committee got it right this time. Not only that, I will be shocked if Alabama doesn't come away with yet another national championship.
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Maybe FSU and Liberty should play each other in the Ty D Bowl and we should crown the winner as our national champion. I mean they are both undefeated and that is all that matters right? Gosh, CUSA and the ACC play just horribly brutal schedules as well.
Only 11 SEC teams are ranked in the top 50 in the college football power index. No, Alabama doesn't deserve to be in. Not at all. They have a loss to a lowly Texas team that also somehow got in to the dance with one loss. Alabama only beat 6 top 25 ranked opponents this year. They can't be more deserving than FSU. FSU beat Southern Miss, Boston College, and Wake Forest. Not to mention North Alabama!
I feel compassion for the FSU kids, but the committee got it right this time. Not only that, I will be shocked if Alabama doesn't come away with yet another national championship.
My point is they were ranked top 4, with the committee knowing that their QB was done for the year.
What changed?
I 100% agree that it is a more competitive playoff now. But the committee should have moved them down before the last 2 weeks. They were simply hoping for a loss to Louisville. No balls at all.
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@payne034
My point is they were ranked top 4, with the committee knowing that their QB was done for the year.
What changed?
I 100% agree that it is a more competitive playoff now. But the committee should have moved them down before the last 2 weeks. They were simply hoping for a loss to Louisville. No balls at all.
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FSU had Jordan Travis when they beat LSU...Noone is arguing that had Travis been healthy FSU would have been a lock for the playoffs....The point everyone is making and u Cleary don't understand is that FSU is not the same team nor as good as when Travis was the starting QB...
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