Johnny Manziel doesn't deserve to win the heisman trophy....

I'll give my reasons and then all of you will probably rip me a new one

I like Johnny Manziel as do i would say most  cfb fans. I've enjoyed watching him play from game 1 vs florida to beating Bama in Tuscaloosa to going point for point with La.Tech what a freshman season its been as well as season 1 for A&m in the SEC. Hell most people will tell you he should win based on going to tuscaloosa and crapping on a nick saban defense.

My reasons as to why he shouldn't win are

1. He is a freshman. Maybe i'm the only 1 i'm just not big on a freshman winning the heisman

2. His offseason arrest. I'm big on charcter guys moreso with coaches but i would hate to think that someone who was arrested for whatever he was arrested for shouldn't be rewarded with a heisman. I think he needs to pay for that

3. Where was Johnny Football when i needed him? Week 2 all 4 of you might remember i had a big play on A&M beating Florida and he played a great 1H against a  great will muschamp defense but where was he in the 2H? His play in the 2H cost me a big win and could've sent me down the path of a losing season. He's got to be called on the carpet for it

I've never met Manziel i really enjoy watching him play hopefully i win a lot of bets on his team in the coming years but he's not the heisman winner. Most won't agree and thats fine but for his problems in the offseason to his 2nd halves vs Florida and LSU i can't reward him with the heisman

1. Why does it matter what year he is? That is the worst reason you give.

2. I did not know he was arrested. Could you elaborate please? Was he convicted of anything? I have been arrested and the charges dropped and I did nothing wrong.

3. So you lost a bet and think he should not get the trophy because of that? You want to punish someone else because you were on the wrong side?

"Honestly tigger i could give 2 craps about the heisman."

Then why did you even make a post about it?

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His name alone should win it for him. (GREAT FOOTBALL NAME)

Johnny Manziel

Problem with the Heisman is there is zero consistency in the criteria to win. It claims a persuit of excellence with integrity if that's the case Bush and Newton should have never won. If this award has any credibility based on its own stated criteria there should be no way Manziel wins based off the arrest. If he does win it illstrates the total zero meaning this award has come to embody.

Guilty until proven innocent?

Woodson. UM

Tied for 2nd in ints

Also a captain and heart of one the best D's in the country and the only undefeated team in the country.

However, if it's only about numbers then Manziel is the guy