Hawaii is decimated by attrition via graduation and more glaringly the transfer portal. They are so bad on offense. And scheme changes on both sides of the ball without having the personnel to run their new stuff will have them looking like fools I would suspect.
they are going back to some air raid/ run and shoot principals. Installed this off-season with players who were not recruited to run that offense, and it is hard to learn.
harder to simulate in a game environment…
I just don’t think they are very good and vandy should take this game 100% seriously knowing what teams are coming down the pipe.
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@MLMaverick
Hawaii is decimated by attrition via graduation and more glaringly the transfer portal. They are so bad on offense. And scheme changes on both sides of the ball without having the personnel to run their new stuff will have them looking like fools I would suspect.
they are going back to some air raid/ run and shoot principals. Installed this off-season with players who were not recruited to run that offense, and it is hard to learn.
harder to simulate in a game environment…
I just don’t think they are very good and vandy should take this game 100% seriously knowing what teams are coming down the pipe.
Thanks for the info and makes a lot of sense… it’s just I’ve been burned on Hawaii many times and Vandy even struggled with UConn late in the season…but you are right they should have enough experience/coaching experience to get the win…does Vandy even have any explosive players on offense? Their defense was terrible last year… I’ll have to research and see if they got any transfers also…
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@steponaduck
Thanks for the info and makes a lot of sense… it’s just I’ve been burned on Hawaii many times and Vandy even struggled with UConn late in the season…but you are right they should have enough experience/coaching experience to get the win…does Vandy even have any explosive players on offense? Their defense was terrible last year… I’ll have to research and see if they got any transfers also…
Utah state exceeded expectations last year beyond belief. I think they are due for a regression and they lost plenty of key pieces on offense. I think UConn having an NFL coach, power run game, and chew the clock being methodical on offense will keep this within the spread.
New Mexico State- same. Slower pace. Methodical offensive approach with Jerry kill at the helm. Nevada is awful. Walk ons in the 2 deep on defense. Losing jay norvell is huge, and he took 9 players to Colorado state from Nevada in the portal. I have already faded Nevada in the first two weeks and the spread on each game has come down several points.
rice, gut play. I think if they score 14 on that usc Swiss. Cheese defense they will cover. Or it could be 62-6…usc D was awful last year and Oklahoma defense was equally bad. I think usc will be good, but to expect 56-14 in their first game…seems like a lot of points. if rice scores twice and achieves 225 yards/ 13 first downs I believe they will chew up enough clock to keep this within the number.
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@MLMaverick
Utah state exceeded expectations last year beyond belief. I think they are due for a regression and they lost plenty of key pieces on offense. I think UConn having an NFL coach, power run game, and chew the clock being methodical on offense will keep this within the spread.
New Mexico State- same. Slower pace. Methodical offensive approach with Jerry kill at the helm. Nevada is awful. Walk ons in the 2 deep on defense. Losing jay norvell is huge, and he took 9 players to Colorado state from Nevada in the portal. I have already faded Nevada in the first two weeks and the spread on each game has come down several points.
rice, gut play. I think if they score 14 on that usc Swiss. Cheese defense they will cover. Or it could be 62-6…usc D was awful last year and Oklahoma defense was equally bad. I think usc will be good, but to expect 56-14 in their first game…seems like a lot of points. if rice scores twice and achieves 225 yards/ 13 first downs I believe they will chew up enough clock to keep this within the number.
Thanks bro.. yeah I’m with ya in the UCONN and Utah St…
I think I just had a red flag on some of those players that are still there at Nevada… like that grown man Tua something at RB… but what you said about the coach and weak defense makes sense..
As for USC… you might be right… Rice could throw up a couple TDS maybe even a garbage TD at the end but the talent scares me… Bilernikoff award winner… J Rices son.. that electric RB from Oregon… ect…this could get ugly fast…
you convinced me on the other 3 though..
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@steponaduck
Thanks bro.. yeah I’m with ya in the UCONN and Utah St…
I think I just had a red flag on some of those players that are still there at Nevada… like that grown man Tua something at RB… but what you said about the coach and weak defense makes sense..
As for USC… you might be right… Rice could throw up a couple TDS maybe even a garbage TD at the end but the talent scares me… Bilernikoff award winner… J Rices son.. that electric RB from Oregon… ect…this could get ugly fast…
sharps aren't very sharp in week 0 or week 1...they have no data points and they are almost as clueless as the public in those weeks...I agree with the sentiment on this string, that Vandy will look at this as a must win business trip, not a mid to late season holiday...Vandy will only be favored in 2 games, and won't win more than 3 if they can beat Hawaii, D2 Elon and Northern Illinois where they will be a dog...I will be on Vandy in week 0 at -7...This Vandy coach is in his 2nd year, and he needs to show progress...Hawaii is a clusterf*** that was gutted by the transfer portal after Graham was dismissed...Like someone above said, I see a 2 to 3 TD margin of victory for Vandy in this game...Vandy is still a bad team, but Hawaii is worse...even with a game play at home in the islands...
Quote Originally Posted by MLMaverick:
@steponaduck Nice close to even money teaser…how confident are you that Vandy wins? Hawaii is always a weird place to play… basically another continent…and sharps keep saying… never bet against Hawaii and UNLV for a reason… Like to hear your angles on that game…
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sharps aren't very sharp in week 0 or week 1...they have no data points and they are almost as clueless as the public in those weeks...I agree with the sentiment on this string, that Vandy will look at this as a must win business trip, not a mid to late season holiday...Vandy will only be favored in 2 games, and won't win more than 3 if they can beat Hawaii, D2 Elon and Northern Illinois where they will be a dog...I will be on Vandy in week 0 at -7...This Vandy coach is in his 2nd year, and he needs to show progress...Hawaii is a clusterf*** that was gutted by the transfer portal after Graham was dismissed...Like someone above said, I see a 2 to 3 TD margin of victory for Vandy in this game...Vandy is still a bad team, but Hawaii is worse...even with a game play at home in the islands...
Quote Originally Posted by MLMaverick:
@steponaduck Nice close to even money teaser…how confident are you that Vandy wins? Hawaii is always a weird place to play… basically another continent…and sharps keep saying… never bet against Hawaii and UNLV for a reason… Like to hear your angles on that game…
@steponaduck Nice close to even money teaser…how confident are you that Vandy wins? Hawaii is always a weird place to play… basically another continent…and sharps keep saying… never bet against Hawaii and UNLV for a reason… Like to hear your angles on that game…
my guy. I’ve never heard a sharp say “never bet against unlv or Hawaii”
in fact, over the last 10 years UNLV is 58-59 ATS and only 25-34 ATS at home.
Hawaii during that same stretch is 49-74 ATS and and 25-38 ATS at home.
so it would seem to me that fading these squads and betting against them all the time would be advantageous.
Until the wallet is full.
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Quote Originally Posted by MLMaverick:
@steponaduck Nice close to even money teaser…how confident are you that Vandy wins? Hawaii is always a weird place to play… basically another continent…and sharps keep saying… never bet against Hawaii and UNLV for a reason… Like to hear your angles on that game…
my guy. I’ve never heard a sharp say “never bet against unlv or Hawaii”
in fact, over the last 10 years UNLV is 58-59 ATS and only 25-34 ATS at home.
Hawaii during that same stretch is 49-74 ATS and and 25-38 ATS at home.
so it would seem to me that fading these squads and betting against them all the time would be advantageous.
I think years ago (and I do mean many years), Hawaii was always a trap for teams making the trip to the island. But things have changed and the betting lines have pretty much caught up with Hawaii.
Fading Hawaii at home is now close to a 50/50 proposition. The numbers posted by Step show this very clearly. "Never bet against Hawaii at home" used to be good advice. But now, not so much.
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@steponaduck
I think years ago (and I do mean many years), Hawaii was always a trap for teams making the trip to the island. But things have changed and the betting lines have pretty much caught up with Hawaii.
Fading Hawaii at home is now close to a 50/50 proposition. The numbers posted by Step show this very clearly. "Never bet against Hawaii at home" used to be good advice. But now, not so much.
Brother. I hope you don’t feel I was calling you out. Just wanted you to have the data, because if someone was sharing F.U.D. With you, and you were wagering based upon it, than the accuracy of that information becomes paramount.
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@MLMaverick
Brother. I hope you don’t feel I was calling you out. Just wanted you to have the data, because if someone was sharing F.U.D. With you, and you were wagering based upon it, than the accuracy of that information becomes paramount.
Hawaii used to go 11-1 and played in the WAC, years ago. They were good. Years ago.
So many people bet on Hawaii still thinking colt brennen, John Ursua, Dede hunter or even Cole Macdonald still play there.
Hawaii = butt cheeks right now.
I hope their time comes again, because I watch college football from 11am through the Hawaii game every week, and when they are good, it’s much more fun.
Until the wallet is full.
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@combato
Hawaii used to go 11-1 and played in the WAC, years ago. They were good. Years ago.
So many people bet on Hawaii still thinking colt brennen, John Ursua, Dede hunter or even Cole Macdonald still play there.
Hawaii = butt cheeks right now.
I hope their time comes again, because I watch college football from 11am through the Hawaii game every week, and when they are good, it’s much more fun.
Nebraska/NW OVER 49.5 is the only thing i’ve bet thus far….. Nebraska dropped 50+ on them last year and while i expect NW to be better, I also expect the Huskers offense to be MUCH better. Add in Neutral site game with a chance for exposure for both and i think we see some scoring. I expect a scoreline like 31-21 or so. We’ll see. CANT WAIT
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Nebraska/NW OVER 49.5 is the only thing i’ve bet thus far….. Nebraska dropped 50+ on them last year and while i expect NW to be better, I also expect the Huskers offense to be MUCH better. Add in Neutral site game with a chance for exposure for both and i think we see some scoring. I expect a scoreline like 31-21 or so. We’ll see. CANT WAIT
Just perusing the schedule and i dont see a line on Iowa / S.Dakota St. yet. With Iowa St. on deck the book maybe a tad too generous and its safe to assume Iowa is aware of Who's Next..great lp.
Iowa is 23-0 SU and 15-8 ATS before the Iowa State game when the line is <=-10
When the line is >-10 Iowa is 2-7 ATS before Iowa State
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Quote Originally Posted by Biscuiteater1:
Just perusing the schedule and i dont see a line on Iowa / S.Dakota St. yet. With Iowa St. on deck the book maybe a tad too generous and its safe to assume Iowa is aware of Who's Next..great lp.
Iowa is 23-0 SU and 15-8 ATS before the Iowa State game when the line is <=-10
When the line is >-10 Iowa is 2-7 ATS before Iowa State
I live in heart of Big Red country and have closely followed them for past 40yrs.
From what ive seen and heard from Spring ball to now Fall practice, the defensive seems to be a step ahead of the offense. They should start out pretty solid on defense. Not so certain the offense will be very productive in the first few games. Yes, I do see the offense to improve over last year now with O.C. Whipple, I dont see big impact first few games. I'm looking heavily at under NW game currently 50.
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@GENERALWIZDOM
Tread lightly on that over.
I live in heart of Big Red country and have closely followed them for past 40yrs.
From what ive seen and heard from Spring ball to now Fall practice, the defensive seems to be a step ahead of the offense. They should start out pretty solid on defense. Not so certain the offense will be very productive in the first few games. Yes, I do see the offense to improve over last year now with O.C. Whipple, I dont see big impact first few games. I'm looking heavily at under NW game currently 50.
Quote Originally Posted by Biscuiteater1: Just perusing the schedule and i dont see a line on Iowa / S.Dakota St. yet. With Iowa St. on deck the book maybe a tad too generous and its safe to assume Iowa is aware of Who's Next..great lp. Iowa is 23-0 SU and 15-8 ATS before the Iowa State game when the line is <=-10 When the line is >-10 Iowa is 2-7 ATS before Iowa State
good info. Have to assume this line is at least 14…
Until the wallet is full.
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Quote Originally Posted by spottie2935:
Quote Originally Posted by Biscuiteater1: Just perusing the schedule and i dont see a line on Iowa / S.Dakota St. yet. With Iowa St. on deck the book maybe a tad too generous and its safe to assume Iowa is aware of Who's Next..great lp. Iowa is 23-0 SU and 15-8 ATS before the Iowa State game when the line is <=-10 When the line is >-10 Iowa is 2-7 ATS before Iowa State
good info. Have to assume this line is at least 14…
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