Fuk OK st. --they fukin lost to IOWA ST.-- cmon man get abrain dunit --the best matchup is a rematch so deal with it DUMASS
why so they could get stomped again? lsu is far and away the best team right now, i dont even like the sec, bama is not as good as teams past, give okie a shot and if they lose by 10 then it proves my point that lsu is the bes this year and u can have another sec national title. bama lost at HOME!!!!!
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Quote Originally Posted by chipman808:
Fuk OK st. --they fukin lost to IOWA ST.-- cmon man get abrain dunit --the best matchup is a rematch so deal with it DUMASS
why so they could get stomped again? lsu is far and away the best team right now, i dont even like the sec, bama is not as good as teams past, give okie a shot and if they lose by 10 then it proves my point that lsu is the bes this year and u can have another sec national title. bama lost at HOME!!!!!
People just don't realize that a potent offense can b shut down by a solid defensive team. Can anyone think of a situation where a potent offense beat a solid defense in a meaningful game NFL or college.
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People just don't realize that a potent offense can b shut down by a solid defensive team. Can anyone think of a situation where a potent offense beat a solid defense in a meaningful game NFL or college.
In a nutshell I built a stat analysis of every team... basically adjusting their statistics based on who they played, and who they are playing each week. Then it spits out a point value, like team a is 4 points better than team b. Then it is a question of evaluating previous games for each team where team a was a similar favorite and see what happened. Conversely i examine the games for team b that is similar. This allows me to come up with a reasonable assessment in the game. Basically Team A is no more than 7 points better than Team B, etc... It has definitely been a lot of work to get it to where it is now and it is still a work in progress. As time progresses it is getting more accurate as my game evaluations get better and my statistical formulas get tweaked. I've posted a few blog posts on here that have links to my website that might give you a better idea. Just a labor of love more than anything. I don't charge for my site or anything like that.
Thanks for answering this i will check you site out...if it's listed on you homepage.
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Quote Originally Posted by TomLoker:
In a nutshell I built a stat analysis of every team... basically adjusting their statistics based on who they played, and who they are playing each week. Then it spits out a point value, like team a is 4 points better than team b. Then it is a question of evaluating previous games for each team where team a was a similar favorite and see what happened. Conversely i examine the games for team b that is similar. This allows me to come up with a reasonable assessment in the game. Basically Team A is no more than 7 points better than Team B, etc... It has definitely been a lot of work to get it to where it is now and it is still a work in progress. As time progresses it is getting more accurate as my game evaluations get better and my statistical formulas get tweaked. I've posted a few blog posts on here that have links to my website that might give you a better idea. Just a labor of love more than anything. I don't charge for my site or anything like that.
Thanks for answering this i will check you site out...if it's listed on you homepage.
People just don't realize that a potent offense can b shut down by a solid defensive team. Can anyone think of a situation where a potent offense beat a solid defense in a meaningful game NFL or college.
i agree but bama wont score more than 14 if they play again and it would put me to sleep . dude they had their chance sorry i would say the same had they won and lsu was in their position. no rematches!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Quote Originally Posted by chipman808:
People just don't realize that a potent offense can b shut down by a solid defensive team. Can anyone think of a situation where a potent offense beat a solid defense in a meaningful game NFL or college.
i agree but bama wont score more than 14 if they play again and it would put me to sleep . dude they had their chance sorry i would say the same had they won and lsu was in their position. no rematches!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Fuk OK st. --they fukin lost to IOWA ST.-- cmon man get abrain dunit --the best matchup is a rematch so deal with it DUMASS
And Iowa State has MORE top 5 wins, more top 20 wins, more top 25 wins then Alabama! GTFOH with all the bullshit in this thread. And PLEASE try to question..and because I know you guys are afraid to look this up I will post here for you
Alabama beat the #8 and #21 teams...THATS IT! LSU by contrast has beaten the #2, #8, #9, #14, #23 ranked teams.Iowa State a 6-6 team has beaten the #3 #17 #22 and #25 ranked TEAMS! Alabama ONLY has 3 wins against teams with a winning record. IMO Alabama's BIGGEST win of the year was home loss to LSU, because without that miserably close loss at home they woud NEVER be considered for the title game.
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Quote Originally Posted by chipman808:
Fuk OK st. --they fukin lost to IOWA ST.-- cmon man get abrain dunit --the best matchup is a rematch so deal with it DUMASS
And Iowa State has MORE top 5 wins, more top 20 wins, more top 25 wins then Alabama! GTFOH with all the bullshit in this thread. And PLEASE try to question..and because I know you guys are afraid to look this up I will post here for you
Alabama beat the #8 and #21 teams...THATS IT! LSU by contrast has beaten the #2, #8, #9, #14, #23 ranked teams.Iowa State a 6-6 team has beaten the #3 #17 #22 and #25 ranked TEAMS! Alabama ONLY has 3 wins against teams with a winning record. IMO Alabama's BIGGEST win of the year was home loss to LSU, because without that miserably close loss at home they woud NEVER be considered for the title game.
its not about what conference you play in if you dont play all the teams in the conference...in bamas case they didnt play georgia or south carolina..not their fault but they played 2 good teams from this conference...both at home..and went 1-1...thats just a fact
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its not about what conference you play in if you dont play all the teams in the conference...in bamas case they didnt play georgia or south carolina..not their fault but they played 2 good teams from this conference...both at home..and went 1-1...thats just a fact
And Iowa State has MORE top 5 wins, more top 20 wins, more top 25 wins then Alabama! GTFOH with all the bullshit in this thread. And PLEASE try to question..and because I know you guys are afraid to look this up I will post here for you
Alabama beat the #8 and #21 teams...THATS IT! LSU by contrast has beaten the #2, #8, #9, #14, #23 ranked teams.Iowa State a 6-6 team has beaten the #3 #17 #22 and #25 ranked TEAMS! Alabama ONLY has 3 wins against teams with a winning record. IMO Alabama's BIGGEST win of the year was home loss to LSU, because without that miserably close loss at home they woud NEVER be considered for the title game.
I want whatever you are smoking
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Quote Originally Posted by Smoke_O:
And Iowa State has MORE top 5 wins, more top 20 wins, more top 25 wins then Alabama! GTFOH with all the bullshit in this thread. And PLEASE try to question..and because I know you guys are afraid to look this up I will post here for you
Alabama beat the #8 and #21 teams...THATS IT! LSU by contrast has beaten the #2, #8, #9, #14, #23 ranked teams.Iowa State a 6-6 team has beaten the #3 #17 #22 and #25 ranked TEAMS! Alabama ONLY has 3 wins against teams with a winning record. IMO Alabama's BIGGEST win of the year was home loss to LSU, because without that miserably close loss at home they woud NEVER be considered for the title game.
Given all the facts right in front you thats the BEST you can come up with ...."I want whatever you are smoking " Okay my job here is done. I won...all I was stated was a loss to Iowa State is not as bad as it seemed. Iowa State was a competitive team. their wins show that.
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Quote Originally Posted by BUGaiter:
I want whatever you are smoking
Given all the facts right in front you thats the BEST you can come up with ...."I want whatever you are smoking " Okay my job here is done. I won...all I was stated was a loss to Iowa State is not as bad as it seemed. Iowa State was a competitive team. their wins show that.
People just don't realize that a potent offense can b shut down by a solid defensive team. Can anyone think of a situation where a potent offense beat a solid defense in a meaningful game NFL or college.
Pretty sure the Steelers' defense couldn't stop Warner and the Cardinals from driving to take the lead in the Superbowl. Luckily for the Steelers', Big Ben and Holmes saved the day.
Didn't the Packers beat the Steelers in the last year in the superbowl? Are you saying Steelers defense is overrated all these years?
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Quote Originally Posted by chipman808:
People just don't realize that a potent offense can b shut down by a solid defensive team. Can anyone think of a situation where a potent offense beat a solid defense in a meaningful game NFL or college.
Pretty sure the Steelers' defense couldn't stop Warner and the Cardinals from driving to take the lead in the Superbowl. Luckily for the Steelers', Big Ben and Holmes saved the day.
Didn't the Packers beat the Steelers in the last year in the superbowl? Are you saying Steelers defense is overrated all these years?
Given all the facts right in front you thats the BEST you can come up with ...."I want whatever you are smoking " Okay my job here is done. I won...all I was stated was a loss to Iowa State is not as bad as it seemed. Iowa State was a competitive team. their wins show that.
I just dont know where you get that Iowa State beat a 3 17 22 and 25. They beat a few high school teams in Kansas, Northern Iowa, UCONN. Hand it to them for beating Ok State, but after that Iowa, Texas Tech zzzzzz
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Quote Originally Posted by Smoke_O:
Given all the facts right in front you thats the BEST you can come up with ...."I want whatever you are smoking " Okay my job here is done. I won...all I was stated was a loss to Iowa State is not as bad as it seemed. Iowa State was a competitive team. their wins show that.
I just dont know where you get that Iowa State beat a 3 17 22 and 25. They beat a few high school teams in Kansas, Northern Iowa, UCONN. Hand it to them for beating Ok State, but after that Iowa, Texas Tech zzzzzz
Given all the facts right in front you thats the BEST you can come up with ...."I want whatever you are smoking " Okay my job here is done. I won...all I was stated was a loss to Iowa State is not as bad as it seemed. Iowa State was a competitive team. their wins show that.
I just dont know where you get that Iowa State beat a 3 17 22 and 25. They beat a few high school teams in Kansas, Northern Iowa, UCONN. Hand it to them for beating Ok State, but after that Iowa, Texas Tech zzzzzz
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Quote Originally Posted by Smoke_O:
Given all the facts right in front you thats the BEST you can come up with ...."I want whatever you are smoking " Okay my job here is done. I won...all I was stated was a loss to Iowa State is not as bad as it seemed. Iowa State was a competitive team. their wins show that.
I just dont know where you get that Iowa State beat a 3 17 22 and 25. They beat a few high school teams in Kansas, Northern Iowa, UCONN. Hand it to them for beating Ok State, but after that Iowa, Texas Tech zzzzzz
I think the Bama slappies are scared that someone might actually be able to do what their team couldn't: Beat LSU. After watching OSU rip OU, I think I'd take OSU over LSU. Hell yeah. Don't screw this one up BCS!
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I think the Bama slappies are scared that someone might actually be able to do what their team couldn't: Beat LSU. After watching OSU rip OU, I think I'd take OSU over LSU. Hell yeah. Don't screw this one up BCS!
I just dont know where you get that Iowa State beat a 3 17 22 and 25. They beat a few high school teams in Kansas, Northern Iowa, UCONN. Hand it to them for beating Ok State, but after that Iowa, Texas Tech zzzzzz
Your inability to spend 30 seconds to check Iowa State's schedule shows your inability to be taken serious by me. Iowa State beat the BCS's #3 OSU, #17 Baylor, #22 Missouri and #25 Texas and they beat Texas A&M before they completely tanked their season. #3 strongest schedule in the country.
Oklahoma State will be the BCS #2 ranked team come tomorrow
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Quote Originally Posted by BUGaiter:
I just dont know where you get that Iowa State beat a 3 17 22 and 25. They beat a few high school teams in Kansas, Northern Iowa, UCONN. Hand it to them for beating Ok State, but after that Iowa, Texas Tech zzzzzz
Your inability to spend 30 seconds to check Iowa State's schedule shows your inability to be taken serious by me. Iowa State beat the BCS's #3 OSU, #17 Baylor, #22 Missouri and #25 Texas and they beat Texas A&M before they completely tanked their season. #3 strongest schedule in the country.
Oklahoma State will be the BCS #2 ranked team come tomorrow
Your inability to spend 30 seconds to check Iowa State's schedule shows your inability to be taken serious by me. Iowa State beat the BCS's #3 OSU, #17 Baylor, #22 Missouri and #25 Texas and they beat Texas A&M before they completely tanked their season. #3 strongest schedule in the country.
Oklahoma State will be the BCS #2 ranked team come tomorrow
lol.. you are drunk go to bed
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Quote Originally Posted by Smoke_O:
Your inability to spend 30 seconds to check Iowa State's schedule shows your inability to be taken serious by me. Iowa State beat the BCS's #3 OSU, #17 Baylor, #22 Missouri and #25 Texas and they beat Texas A&M before they completely tanked their season. #3 strongest schedule in the country.
Oklahoma State will be the BCS #2 ranked team come tomorrow
There is just no excuse not to put OSU in the game now. Bama has beaten 3 teams with a winning record, didn't win their conference… OR THEIR OWN GOD DAMN DIVISION
anyone that thinks OSU doesn't deserve the bid from the system in place they are either naive or an Alabama fan.
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There is just no excuse not to put OSU in the game now. Bama has beaten 3 teams with a winning record, didn't win their conference… OR THEIR OWN GOD DAMN DIVISION
anyone that thinks OSU doesn't deserve the bid from the system in place they are either naive or an Alabama fan.
[Quote: Originally Posted by Laroja] Ice4Blood is pretty much considered a troll at the moment. He doesn't actually wager on games, he just comes on to discuss the BCS. And if you disagree with him your "wrong" and it's "not debatable". What a fucking tool lol.
Lar
What's funny about your post it describes "yourself"
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[Quote: Originally Posted by Laroja] Ice4Blood is pretty much considered a troll at the moment. He doesn't actually wager on games, he just comes on to discuss the BCS. And if you disagree with him your "wrong" and it's "not debatable". What a fucking tool lol.
Lar
What's funny about your post it describes "yourself"
….Definitely by the SEC fans!Just because a team belongs to the SEC doesn’t mean they could compete in the NFL!
I’m not a fan of the SEC but the LSU/Bama game impressed me..it did feel like I was watching two pro teams..the athleticism, the defensive and offensive game plans, the coaching….(OK with the exception of some idiotic FG attempts!). You could probably say that about any competitive low scoring game in the NCAA but still, that game was in another league from most CFB games.
Also you have to be impressed by the SEC’s BCS championship record.
BUT…just because a team belongs to the SEC doesn’t mean they deserve a title shot. I get tired of SEC cockiness and arrogance. Immediately after playing LSU the Alabama players were still claiming to be the best team in the country and that they WOULD play in the BCS championship…that doesn’t seem like a championship team to me.A championship team wins when it has to…it doesn’t get a 2nd chance.
Let’s give Boise another chance…let’s give Stanford another chance…let’s give Houston another chance…
Oh wait!!! Those teams didn’t win the game they really needed and failed to get a conference championship.Houston wasn’t really eliminated because they weren’t going to be considered, but you could argue that Boise and Stanford had a shot if they went undefeated and won their conferences.
Winning a conference doesn’t automatically qualify a team for the Championship game but it does work as a kind of playoff. There are “must win” games and the LSU/Bama game was a “must win”. In the NFL the 2 best teams may be in the same conference but only one of them is going to go to the Superbowl. Alabama had to win that game..they had the advantage, they were playing at home and went to OT….but they failed to get it done when they needed it.
OSU did lose to a team they should have annihilated but it didn’t really matter . They came back and won their conference..OSU played every team in their conference and had one bad game. They won when they needed it and they won convincingly.
I really felt Bama had a better team than LSU this year and a better team than Auburn last year. The Tide didn’t win those games. A champion wins. Alabama is no championship team. The Tide and fans need to accept responsibility for a BIG loss and just don’t let it happen again next year
Besides…I agree with a lot of posters…the LSU/Bama rematch wouldn’t settle anything. Why shouldn’t LSU be able to argue that if they lose that they are still really the best team and that besides the record is 1-1….
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SEC overrated?
….Definitely by the SEC fans!Just because a team belongs to the SEC doesn’t mean they could compete in the NFL!
I’m not a fan of the SEC but the LSU/Bama game impressed me..it did feel like I was watching two pro teams..the athleticism, the defensive and offensive game plans, the coaching….(OK with the exception of some idiotic FG attempts!). You could probably say that about any competitive low scoring game in the NCAA but still, that game was in another league from most CFB games.
Also you have to be impressed by the SEC’s BCS championship record.
BUT…just because a team belongs to the SEC doesn’t mean they deserve a title shot. I get tired of SEC cockiness and arrogance. Immediately after playing LSU the Alabama players were still claiming to be the best team in the country and that they WOULD play in the BCS championship…that doesn’t seem like a championship team to me.A championship team wins when it has to…it doesn’t get a 2nd chance.
Let’s give Boise another chance…let’s give Stanford another chance…let’s give Houston another chance…
Oh wait!!! Those teams didn’t win the game they really needed and failed to get a conference championship.Houston wasn’t really eliminated because they weren’t going to be considered, but you could argue that Boise and Stanford had a shot if they went undefeated and won their conferences.
Winning a conference doesn’t automatically qualify a team for the Championship game but it does work as a kind of playoff. There are “must win” games and the LSU/Bama game was a “must win”. In the NFL the 2 best teams may be in the same conference but only one of them is going to go to the Superbowl. Alabama had to win that game..they had the advantage, they were playing at home and went to OT….but they failed to get it done when they needed it.
OSU did lose to a team they should have annihilated but it didn’t really matter . They came back and won their conference..OSU played every team in their conference and had one bad game. They won when they needed it and they won convincingly.
I really felt Bama had a better team than LSU this year and a better team than Auburn last year. The Tide didn’t win those games. A champion wins. Alabama is no championship team. The Tide and fans need to accept responsibility for a BIG loss and just don’t let it happen again next year
Besides…I agree with a lot of posters…the LSU/Bama rematch wouldn’t settle anything. Why shouldn’t LSU be able to argue that if they lose that they are still really the best team and that besides the record is 1-1….
And Iowa State has MORE top 5 wins, more top 20 wins, more top 25 wins then Alabama! GTFOH with all the bullshit in this thread. And PLEASE try to question..and because I know you guys are afraid to look this up I will post here for you
Alabama beat the #8 and #21 teams...THATS IT! LSU by contrast has beaten the #2, #8, #9, #14, #23 ranked teams.Iowa State a 6-6 team has beaten the #3 #17 #22 and #25 ranked TEAMS! Alabama ONLY has 3 wins against teams with a winning record. IMO Alabama's BIGGEST win of the year was home loss to LSU, because without that miserably close loss at home they woud NEVER be considered for the title game.
Where are all these ranked teams Iowa St has beat and please dont say Texas Tech they arent ranked anymore only decent team they beat was OKlahoma st and in my book thats a horrible loss for OK ST,Texas,Baylor,Missouri,and A&M absolutely crushed Iowa St ,Iowa St beats a FCS team by a point lol im sorry but the BS u post is laughable
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Quote Originally Posted by Smoke_O:
And Iowa State has MORE top 5 wins, more top 20 wins, more top 25 wins then Alabama! GTFOH with all the bullshit in this thread. And PLEASE try to question..and because I know you guys are afraid to look this up I will post here for you
Alabama beat the #8 and #21 teams...THATS IT! LSU by contrast has beaten the #2, #8, #9, #14, #23 ranked teams.Iowa State a 6-6 team has beaten the #3 #17 #22 and #25 ranked TEAMS! Alabama ONLY has 3 wins against teams with a winning record. IMO Alabama's BIGGEST win of the year was home loss to LSU, because without that miserably close loss at home they woud NEVER be considered for the title game.
Where are all these ranked teams Iowa St has beat and please dont say Texas Tech they arent ranked anymore only decent team they beat was OKlahoma st and in my book thats a horrible loss for OK ST,Texas,Baylor,Missouri,and A&M absolutely crushed Iowa St ,Iowa St beats a FCS team by a point lol im sorry but the BS u post is laughable
Everyone has the right to trash talk if they want…that’s what these posts are for…
I would like a NCAA champ to actually play its way to a championship.
I never signed up for the current BCS system..It’s not really any better than the previous election system for deciding the National Champ.It’s still pro wrestling/Roman gladiators ….give the fans a game to watch to make them think a team deserved to be called #1.
Are LSU and Alabama the best? Maybe…probably..I don’t really know because my opinion means nothing.
I remember all the smack last year about how Oregon wouldn’t even be in the game with Auburn..and how Oregon would be a 5 or 6 game winner in the SEC. The predicted “blowout “ended up 22-19. That was almost the same score as TCU over Wisconsin. (Wisconsin was supposed to win by 30 according to all the posts).
Last year in the bowls (which they had to play not talk about)the SEC didn’t dominate:
They won some but had some humiliating losses:
NCAR 30-TENN 27(ACC)
CENFL 10-GA 6(CUSA)!!!
FSU 26-SOCAR 17(ACC)
ARK 26- OHIOST 31(Big10)
PITT 27 –KENTY 10(BigEast)
FLAvs(Big10),ALAvs(Big10),MISStvs(Big10),LSU vs(Big12) all won convincingly
Of course AUB vs(PAC10) won by 3 pts.
Looks 50/50 to me…but the SEC was 3/1 against the BIG10!
You can say whatever you want..I just want to see more games played and hear less “if (name the team) had to play in the SEC they wouldn’t even be Bowl eligible…”
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Everyone has the right to trash talk if they want…that’s what these posts are for…
I would like a NCAA champ to actually play its way to a championship.
I never signed up for the current BCS system..It’s not really any better than the previous election system for deciding the National Champ.It’s still pro wrestling/Roman gladiators ….give the fans a game to watch to make them think a team deserved to be called #1.
Are LSU and Alabama the best? Maybe…probably..I don’t really know because my opinion means nothing.
I remember all the smack last year about how Oregon wouldn’t even be in the game with Auburn..and how Oregon would be a 5 or 6 game winner in the SEC. The predicted “blowout “ended up 22-19. That was almost the same score as TCU over Wisconsin. (Wisconsin was supposed to win by 30 according to all the posts).
Last year in the bowls (which they had to play not talk about)the SEC didn’t dominate:
They won some but had some humiliating losses:
NCAR 30-TENN 27(ACC)
CENFL 10-GA 6(CUSA)!!!
FSU 26-SOCAR 17(ACC)
ARK 26- OHIOST 31(Big10)
PITT 27 –KENTY 10(BigEast)
FLAvs(Big10),ALAvs(Big10),MISStvs(Big10),LSU vs(Big12) all won convincingly
Of course AUB vs(PAC10) won by 3 pts.
Looks 50/50 to me…but the SEC was 3/1 against the BIG10!
You can say whatever you want..I just want to see more games played and hear less “if (name the team) had to play in the SEC they wouldn’t even be Bowl eligible…”
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