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please. Tell me there's something more besides
 
a) playing at OSU
b) true freshmen playing his first road game
c) Pryor
 
Tell me there are other reasons. I want someone to talk me out of it. Looking for reasons NOT to hammer the -7.
 
I've posted this several times, and nobody has any reasons (besides what I mentioned in a, b, and c) why USC doesnt demolish them. if its just a, b, and c, then USC kills them.
 
I hate betting on my team, so please, give me some reasons.
 
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Ohio St. has way more speed than San Jose...dont be fooled...ANYONE who has to prepare for the triple option gets fooled once in a while...thats what navy did...they fooled ohio 2-3 times and that is why that game was close...BIG NAVY PLAYS, not 15-20 play EPIC DRIVES...this ohio state team will be better at home against a more conventional offense...just remember that the kid is a true freshman at USC and it is IN THE SHOE...personally, I HATE OHIO STATE, but i think they cover if it gets to +7.5
 
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Cause you will lose your $$$$$$.
 
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I'm an ohio state fan and i can't give you one.  We have a chance IF all 3 of the following happen:

1.  Aggressive gameplan
2.  Our D-Line plays out of their minds.
3.  Our Safeties and corners are strapped with jet packs....

USC is as fast or faster this year.  Last year speed was the difference, we are slower this year, especially on defense....
 
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slow start last week in the same timezone against a team missing 10 scholly's, while now you're moving 2 timezones and you did beat this team 35-3 last year which they haven't forgotten...
 
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It's the same type of shit that USC fans always say. Satnford, we're gonna kill'em. Oregon St, we're favored by 25 and we'll destroy that team. Washington, Arizona, UCLA, shit teams like that, we should kill them too. USC is in the weakest BCS conference with a great # of awful teams, and that is saying something if you look at the Big East and ACC.
 
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Quote Originally Posted by Godfather16:

It's the same type of shit that USC fans always say. Satnford, we're gonna kill'em. Oregon St, we're favored by 25 and we'll destroy that team. Washington, Arizona, UCLA, shit teams like that, we should kill them too. USC is in the weakest BCS conference with a great # of awful teams, and that is saying something if you look at the Big East and ACC.

Here's where you're wrong, AGAIN. USC fans dont talk about beating the crap out of Stanford, Oregon State, Arizona, or UW. Why? Because those games are not important! Big difference when they are playing a known program.

You're still dumb.

 
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Maybe the oddsmakers are not sold on this year's SC defense. Although SC is loaded with talents, having lost that many players from a lights out defense of last year and asking this year's crop to play at or near that level is asking for too much.
 
-Can SC get pressure up the middle from their DTs?
-LBing corps is young, only Galippo stands out from that crowd.
-Speed is one thing, but you also need disciplined players as well. A blown coverage here or there could be the difference.
 
I like for nothing more than another complete dismantling of the Little 12 again, but eventually there will be close games from time to time. This setting has all of that in the making.
 
 
 
 
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Cause you will lose your $$$$$$.

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Quote Originally Posted by GAMBLE_4heisman:

I'm an ohio state fan and i can't give you one.  We have a chance IF all 3 of the following happen:

1.  Aggressive gameplan
2.  Our D-Line plays out of their minds.
3.  Our Safeties and corners are strapped with jet packs....

USC is as fast or faster this year.  Last year speed was the difference, we are slower this year, especially on defense....


agreed 100%
 
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Quote Originally Posted by kickinA:

Maybe the oddsmakers are not sold on this year's SC defense. Although SC is loaded with talents, having lost that many players from a lights out defense of last year and asking this year's crop to play at or near that level is asking for too much.
 
-Can SC get pressure up the middle from their DTs?
-LBing corps is young, only Galippo stands out from that crowd.
-Speed is one thing, but you also need disciplined players as well. A blown coverage here or there could be the difference.
 
I like for nothing more than another complete dismantling of the Little 12 again, but eventually there will be close games from time to time. This setting has all of that in the making.
 
 
 

I'm the first to admit the defense is nowhere near last years. Thats obvious.

I hate our linebackers, with the exception of Chris Gallippo. HOWEVER, and this is the point of it all, what does OSU have that will expose any weakness the defense might have? Who besides TP.

I have yet to hear any names being mentioned. All I hear is USC isnt as good as last year, but everyone on OSU fails to realize OSU's cupboard is much more bear than USC's this year. This will make the decision easier.

 
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Come on, it's not always about who has the best team, is fastest or has the most talent.  You know how these games with home dogs playing in front of a big crowd can go.  They force a turnover early, recover a fumble, some fluky shit happens.  Then they march down the field and score and all of the sudden the fans are going crazy, the confidence of the players has suddenly skyrocketed and the road team starts feeling it a little.  Of course the inverse of this scenario can happen, but if it does pan out for the home dog in that way they can always overcome whatever obstacles there might be on paper.


 
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Maybe there is hope for OSU yet as their defense held the Middies to sub 200 yrds on the ground? Middies have lead the NCAA in rushing yards for the past few years.
 
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Quote Originally Posted by ValueforRent:

Come on, it's not always about who has the best team, is fastest or has the most talent.  You know how these games with home dogs playing in front of a big crowd can go.  They force a turnover early, recover a fumble, some fluky shit happens.  Then they march down the field and score and all of the sudden the fans are going crazy, the confidence of the players has suddenly skyrocketed and the road team starts feeling it a little.  Of course the inverse of this scenario can happen, but if it does pan out for the home dog in that way they can always overcome whatever obstacles there might be on paper.


you're right. but its alot easier to predict an outcome when you look at the talent on the field. How to you predict an unpredictable outcome? Its unpredictable! 

Make sense?

 
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Where in the depth chart does OSU WR Ray Small fit in? That little guy was suppose to be the next Ted Ginn Jr. Just asking because his skills and speed would help.
 
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Quote Originally Posted by Godfather16:

It's the same type of shit that USC fans always say. Satnford, we're gonna kill'em. Oregon St, we're favored by 25 and we'll destroy that team. Washington, Arizona, UCLA, shit teams like that, we should kill them too. USC is in the weakest BCS conference with a great # of awful teams, and that is saying something if you look at the Big East and ACC.

That is all a person need to know about the godfather.

 
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Quote Originally Posted by ValueforRent:

Come on, it's not always about who has the best team, is fastest or has the most talent.  You know how these games with home dogs playing in front of a big crowd can go.  They force a turnover early, recover a fumble, some fluky shit happens.  Then they march down the field and score and all of the sudden the fans are going crazy, the confidence of the players has suddenly skyrocketed and the road team starts feeling it a little.  Of course the inverse of this scenario can happen, but if it does pan out for the home dog in that way they can always overcome whatever obstacles there might be on paper.


Why not just bet every home dog that's playing in front of a packed crowd than?  This can be said for just about any inferior team.  If one backs a team with the reason that some "fluky" shit can happen I'd be nervous.  Eventhough it can happen, I could not put my money down on a team depending on some fluke to happen. 

 
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Quote Originally Posted by kickinA:

Where in the depth chart does OSU WR Ray Small fit in? That little guy was suppose to be the next Ted Ginn Jr. Just asking because his skills and speed would help.


He was never supposed to be Ted Ginn ..... poor route runner, never had over 50 yards receiving to my knowledge.... not a team player, distraction, decent return man, he's missed fielding punts, thats about it.
 
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Small is best known for talking shit about USC when he went for a visit. Said they didnt have any class, yada yada yada, then came to LA and stunk up the joint.
 
He's terrible. But I do like Cris Carter's kid. He'll be a nice little college receiver.
 
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Quote Originally Posted by CalBear:

Why not just bet every home dog that's playing in front of a packed crowd than?  This can be said for just about any inferior team.  If one backs a team with the reason that some "fluky" shit can happen I'd be nervous.  Eventhough it can happen, I could not put my money down on a team depending on some fluke to happen. 



Because there has to be a certain atmosphere in place for it to be effective.  I think that will be in place on Saturday evening at the Shoe.  Still thinking about this game but as of now I like the Buckeyes.  It's just so hard for me resist a home dog like this regardless of how daunting the opponent is. 
 
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Im with you Westcoast on this one.Pete Caroll or USC will not fall asleep in this one and probably will try to make a statement.USC pulls away early 4th and doesnt look back.
 
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Quote Originally Posted by ValueforRent:



Because there has to be a certain atmosphere in place for it to be effective.  I think that will be in place on Saturday evening at the Shoe.  Still thinking about this game but as of now I like the Buckeyes.  It's just so hard for me resist a home dog like this regardless of how daunting the opponent is. 

 Also, knowing the line would have been 3-4 pts if this game were played in week 1 presents value for Ohio St backers.  But like I've said before, I hate backing a team simply for value.  GL on your decision.

 
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[Quote: Originally Posted by GAMBLE_4heisman] I'm an ohio state fan and i can't give you one.  We have a chance IF all 3 of the following happen:

1.  Aggressive gameplan
2.  Our D-Line plays out of their minds.

I'm taking out number 3 but this could be Tressel's chance to finally prove to me that he is a good coach.  Line up Pryor with an empty backfield and utilize this clear mismatch.  OSU has some fast and good receivers in Thomas, Posier, Carter, and Small/Sanz...If you aggressively game plan, like said above, this poses huge matchup problems with SC. 

I still like OSU's defensive line.  Yeah Navy looked good but Navy is hard to game plan for and they did have a good rushing attack last year.  USC will not find running off tackle right for 5 yeards a carry like last week.  The frosh kid will need to make some key 3rd down plays to win this game IFFFFFF the defense plays aggressive and the D Line plays like it did against Texas and Penn St.  If they coach aggresively, I think they have a shot to win. 

 
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And to those people that say this game will be a blow out, OSU has not got beat by more than a td in the shoe in years....Years.  And they went against a few BCS teams and a national champion.  I have some questions about the offensive line (OSU that is), but SC is prime for an upset
 
 
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Quote Originally Posted by westcoastTrojan:

Here's where you're wrong, AGAIN. USC fans dont talk about beating the crap out of Stanford, Oregon State, Arizona, or UW. Why? Because those games are not important! Big difference when they are playing a known program.

You're still dumb.

   corrct me if im wrong, but didnt u sc lose to stanford, oregon st and wash recently? just wondering, maybe thats why u dont talk about those non-important, bcs championship busting games!
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