Texas Tech @ Oklahoma - Week 13

What does everyone think this line will open at?

Am I right in saying this whole forum will be Oklahoma?

TTU -3....that's my early guess.  It wouldn't shock me if Oklahoma is giving points either, I guess.

I'd guess around Oklahoma -5. If Tech is favored, I'm unloading on Oklahoma.

Total might be 110.  lol

Oklahoma -7 ???????????/

Wow.   What in the hell am I going to do with that. 

If Oklahoma wins this game...who goes to the Big 12 championship?

Texas, Oklahoma, or Texas Tech?

I think it would be Texas at that point.

the 7 seems a tad low,  was thinking 8

keep in mind that OU has about 6 points worth of home-field advantage and they still power-rate out about a point or two better than TT, so the line seems right to me

My guess was going to be Sooners -4.5 or 5.. and I would have taken the sooners.. Now im not sure anymore

Scoresandodds.com has Oklahoma -7, and O/U 70

But O/U is now 73.

I think it should be at least 84

i thought it would be texas, but was surprised to learn the the team highest in the bcs would go if it was a tie. So if ou beats tech and then beats a highly ranked okla st team, they would probably be it over texas despite losing to them.

 

If Oklahoma went instead of Texas, then they would need to drop the BSC right on the spot. 

hit the over at (70)...no opinion on the spread, but the sooners have been very good to me with 1st quarter, 1st half, and game totals over this year.

Nice little article on the subject:


Texas Tech steadily climbed the rankings during its first 8-0 start since 1976, but didn’t figure prominently in the national title picture until last week’s victory over the top-ranked team in the country.

To stay in the BCS championship conversation, the Red Raiders probably can’t afford a letdown against another elite Big 12 South opponent.

Having already achieved their highest ranking ever and their longest undefeated start in 70 years, the second-ranked Red Raiders look to extend the longest winning streak in school history—and in the nation—to 12 games when they host No. 8 Oklahoma State on Saturday night.

Texas Tech (9-0, 5-0) used one of the nation’s most prolific offenses to win its first eight games for the first time since 1976, but it defeated only one ranked team in that stretch - a 63-21 victory over Kansas on Oct. 25 that dropped the then-No. 19 Jayhawks out of the poll.
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After a last-second touchdown pass gave Texas Tech a thrilling 39-33 victory over top-ranked Texas last Saturday, however, there’s little doubt that the Red Raiders belong in the national title picture.

Graham Harrell completed 36 of 53 passes for 474 yards and two touchdowns, including a 28-yarder to Michael Crabtree with one second remaining that gave Texas Tech perhaps the biggest win in school history.

Now the Red Raiders are faced with the challenge of moving on to face the Cowboys (8-1, 4-1), whose only loss was a 28-24 defeat on the road against Texas on Oct. 25.

“I hope it’s not (difficult), but you worry,” Texas Tech coach Mike Leach said. “We’ve done a pretty good job this year, just trying to keep everybody in perspective. Now the biggest game in history is Oklahoma State, or the history of this year, anyway.”

Leach’s players appear to be getting the message, acknowledging that it’ll take continued success in the coming weeks for the Red Raiders’ first 9-0 start since 1938 to lead them to the national championship. After Oklahoma State, Texas Tech visits No. 6 Oklahoma - another one-loss division rival.

“The road’s not getting any easier for us,” said Harrell, a Heisman Trophy candidate who leads the Football Bowl Subdivision with 3,621 passing yards and ranks third with 30 TDs. “(The Texas game) was a great win for us. It was big for the program. But, at the same time, in order for it to mean anything we need to do it again.”

Oklahoma State potentially has just as much to gain from a victory Saturday. The Cowboys are one of three one-loss teams behind the Red Raiders in the South, and would seemingly have as much claim to BCS consideration as anyone in the division if they can hand Texas Tech its first defeat.

“When I was playing in the Big Eight, there were going to be two or three teams that would maybe be in the Top 25 in our league,” said Oklahoma State coach Mike Gundy, who played for the Cowboys from 1986-89. “As a coach, I can’t remember playing this many teams from one division that have been ranked in the top 10.

“Back to work this week.”

Gundy’s team rebounded from its loss to Texas by compiling 682 total yards in a 59-17 rout of Iowa State last Saturday. Zac Robinson completed 18 of 27 passes for 395 yards, five touchdowns and one interception.

“We’re still in a good position,” Robinson said. “We’ve got a lot of things in front of us still. We’ll just kind of see how this whole thing plays out and keep on winning.”

Sophomore receiver Dez Bryant, second in the FBS with 1,054 receiving yards and tied with Crabtree and Rice’s Jarett Dillard for first with 15 TD catches, caught nine passes for 171 yards and four scores last Saturday to lead the Cowboys’ dynamic receiving corps.

“He’ll do something sometimes and you’ll go, ‘How did he do that?’ He’s ridiculous,” said fellow receiver Jeremy Broadway, who set a school record with a 95-yard touchdown catch last weekend. “I’m to a point with Dez that I’m not surprised anymore. … When the ball is in the air and Dez is 1-on-1, it’s automatic.”

Oklahoma State racked up a season-high 610 total yards in beating Texas Tech 49-45 last Sept. 22, but a repeat performance could be a challenge against an improved Red Raiders defense that leads the Big 12 with 349.6 scrimmage yards allowed per game.

The Cowboys are playing on the road against a team ranked in the top 3 for the third time in five weeks, having beaten then-No. 3 Missouri 28-23 on Oct. 11. They’ve lost 11 straight games in Lubbock since their last win there in 1944.

By DAN PIERINGER, STATS Writer

PlacinUnits !!!!!!

I copied the wrong damn article...sorry!

Texas Tech hasn’t won in Norman since 1996 but they will bring the conference’s most dangerous offense to town on November 22nd. Stacked with 18 returning starters (10 offense, 8 defense) expectations are as high as they’ve been in Lubbock since Mike Leach took over in 2000.

With 10 returning starters the Red Raiders return literally everyone from an offense that averaged 40.9 points and 529 yards per game last season. The guy in the armor could be Danny Amendola who graduated in `07 after posting 1,245 receiving yards and 6 touchdowns. His absence could allow opposing defenses to focus solely on Heisman candidate Michael Crabtree unless Eric Harris or Edward Britton step up and produce similar numbers.

2007 Offensive Leaders
Passing	Graham Harrell	512/713, 5705 yards, 48 TD, 14 INT
Rushing	Shannon Woods	84 carries 450 yards, 8 touchdowns
Receiving	Michael Crabtree	134 receptions, 1962 yards, 22 touchdowns

Defensively the Red Raiders appear to be better than 2007, at least on paper. When it comes to Texas Tech and defense I’ll have to believe it when I see it. Mike Leach will never be confused with a defensive minded coach but if there was ever a year in which the Red Raiders would produce a top tier defense it would be 2008. Tech loses their leading tackler from last season but return their leaders in sacks, tackles for loss and interceptions.

The Red Raiders gave up 25.9 points per game last season and allowed opponents 177 yards on the ground and 188 through the air which is an increase in every category over 2006. In their four losses last year Tech gave up 49, 41, 31 and 59 points. Apparently there is a magic formula to beating the Red Raiders which involves playing them at home and having a strong rushing attack. Both of those factors can help overcome Tech’s high powered offense and both are in Oklahoma’s corner in 2008.

2007 Defensive Leaders
Tackles	Joe Garcia	92
Tackles for Loss	Colby Whitlock, Brandon Williams	6.5
Sacks	Brandon Williams	6
Interceptions	Jamar Wall	5

We can analyze all we want but facts are facts and the Red Raiders beat Oklahoma by a touchdown last year in Lubbock. We all remember Sam Bradford going out early in the game and Tech hanging on in the second half for the victory. Hopefully Bradford will be healthy this year when they play because Tech will definitely be more experienced.

There has also been a pattern develop in this series since 2004 in which the Sooners lose by a touchdown or less on the road but win by double digits in Norman.

Um, cubmm...that's an easy one.

They do not open a line up at -7 for nothing.  They need to attract 50% of the public to take TT.

But they didn't "invent" -7 out of thin air...TT has not won there since 1996....and they do not have any road experience worth comparing this too.

I think I like Oklahoma if I can see them get down to -5.

Big10...

welcome to covers.  saw your other post.  good luck on your plays.

what is your thoughts on this game?

i can't see this o/u staying below 75. usually i pound unders when its this high, but the only offense that seems more potent this year than TTU's is oklahoma. stats do no justice to this offense, look at their first half output, they usually put it into neutral and cruise through the 2nd half every game except texas. i wanna be able to not lay $ on this game and enjoy it