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budwiser

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Posted: Sep. 4, 2017 - 1:02 AM ET #51

alrite fellas this is degenerating...have a good night i'm out.. good luck next time.

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Posted: Sep. 4, 2017 - 1:06 AM ET #52

Quote Originally Posted by budwiser:

or maybe you got a real good reason for Sumlin to start a frosh over a seasoned senior in a big game

Maybe the same reason he started Starkel, a white sophmore, over that "seasoned senior". Was that for "PC reasons"? Was that race? You're a chump. And you're getting all emotional and butt hurt.

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budwiser

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Posted: Sep. 4, 2017 - 1:15 AM ET #53

Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu:

Maybe the same reason he started Starkel, a white sophmore, over that "seasoned senior". Was that for "PC reasons"? Was that race? You're a chump. And you're getting all emotional and butt hurt.

yeah and he was winning with that decision......and when he got injured he made a bad decision on the replacement.

or maybe you are denying that the latest trend is frosh black qb's. deshaun watson won a national championship last year

but the trend has gone too far and we saw it this game.

but i am starting to repeat myself

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budwiser

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Posted: Sep. 4, 2017 - 1:21 AM ET #54

all i'm doing is repeating myself fellas. good luck next time.

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Posted: Sep. 4, 2017 - 1:31 AM ET #55

Sorry man this is plain and simple ignorant and f'd up thinking that black QB's are being played "more" due to "political correctness," I imagine more people have not chimed in on this nonsense because a) it is labor day weekend and they have better things to do, and/or b) this is so off the wall it isn't worthy of a response, and/or c) it was very late when the comeback was complete. The reason you say "more" black QB's today has nothing to do with "political correctness" no matter what some clown on TV or some blog or one of your stupid drunk low-IQ friends are telling you.

I haven't posted in forever, but this crapola drives me nuts. We really have people (and plenty unfortunately) in our great country that think like this. WTF!

Here is why we have "more" black QB's these days than in the 90s, 80s 70s etc. - - - the rage these days is the "dual threat" QB. For whatever reason, there are more black guys than white guys that are Division 1 caliber with that skill set. Just like on the US Olympic team, the majority of the sprinters are black - there are more of faster black guys than white guys. (I'm not going to debate why - that's another topic.)

And since we have evolved as a society, it is acceptable to have a black guy as a QB in 2017 unlike it being a rare occurrence in the 70s. Back then, people had the ignorant stereotype that blacks were not "smart" enough to play QB and/or should not be leading "white" men.

So, no coach is trying to "go the other way too much" in playing black guys at QB. In most instances, it is because that coach feels that a dual threat QB is their best option at that position. If they had a faster, better guy at that position who was not black, they would play them. Has nothing to do with race these days as far as picking your QB's.

You may not like it. You may like your drop back, non-running QB, and that's fine. Like someone said above, your choice. And they can succeed greatly, too, and win championships just like athletic dual threat QB's can.

But if you are obsessed with this race thing and think coaches are seeking out black QB's to be PC, then you have some issues

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Sorry man this is plain and simple ignorant and f'd up thinking that black QB's are being played "more" due to "political correctness," I imagine more people have not chimed in on this nonsense because a) it is labor day weekend and they have better things to do, and/or b) this is so off the wall it isn't worthy of a response, and/or c) it was very late when the comeback was complete. The reason you say "more" black QB's today has nothing to do with "political correctness" no matter what some clown on TV or some blog or one of your stupid drunk low-IQ friends are telling you.

I haven't posted in forever, but this crapola drives me nuts. We really have people (and plenty unfortunately) in our great country that think like this. WTF!

Here is why we have "more" black QB's these days than in the 90s, 80s 70s etc. - - - the rage these days is the "dual threat" QB. For whatever reason, there are more black guys than white guys that are Division 1 caliber with that skill set. Just like on the US Olympic team, the majority of the sprinters are black - there are more of faster black guys than white guys. (I'm not going to debate why - that's another topic.)

And since we have evolved as a society, it is acceptable to have a black guy as a QB in 2017 unlike it being a rare occurrence in the 70s. Back then, people had the ignorant stereotype that blacks were not "smart" enough to play QB and/or should not be leading "white" men.

So, no coach is trying to "go the other way too much" in playing black guys at QB. In most instances, it is because that coach feels that a dual threat QB is their best option at that position. If they had a faster, better guy at that position who was not black, they would play them. Has nothing to do with race these days as far as picking your QB's.

You may not like it. You may like your drop back, non-running QB, and that's fine. Like someone said above, your choice. And they can succeed greatly, too, and win championships just like athletic dual threat QB's can.

But if you are obsessed with this race thing and think coaches are seeking out black QB's to be PC, then you have some issues

StumpTownStu

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Posted: Sep. 4, 2017 - 1:34 AM ET #56

Quote Originally Posted by budwiser:

yeah and he was winning with that decision......and when he got injured he made a bad decision on the replacement.

or maybe you are denying that the latest trend is frosh black qb's. deshaun watson won a national championship last year

but the trend has gone too far and we saw it this game.

but i am starting to repeat myself

All i'm saying is if a coach is playing a true frosh QB, black or white, it's because the coach feels that kid gives him the best opportunity to win. No because he's being "PC". Nick Saban went with a true frosh QB last year. Was Nick Saban, one of the greatest college coaches of all time, being PC? Was he just hooking up a fellow black man? Oh wait, Nick Saban's white. And he knows talent. And winning. He must've based it on that. Should Hubanek have gone in? Sure, if he's healthy, he's got experience, go for it. I just can't except that the reason he wasn't in was based on race. These are professional coaches and while they all do questionable stuff, he deserves more credit than that. That kid didn't play much worse than the starter and actually had more all purpose yards. Of course he missed throws. True frosh, first game, prime time sunday night.

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budwiser

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Posted: Sep. 4, 2017 - 1:38 AM ET #57

well he chose the frosh over this guy, you tell me

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StumpTownStu

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Posted: Sep. 4, 2017 - 1:40 AM ET #58

Quote Originally Posted by cappy22:

Sorry man this is plain and simple ignorant and f'd up thinking that black QB's are being played "more" due to "political correctness," I imagine more people have not chimed in on this nonsense because a) it is labor day weekend and they have better things to do, and/or b) this is so off the wall it isn't worthy of a response, and/or c) it was very late when the comeback was complete. The reason you say "more" black QB's today has nothing to do with "political correctness" no matter what some clown on TV or some blog or one of your stupid drunk low-IQ friends are telling you.

I haven't posted in forever, but this crapola drives me nuts. We really have people (and plenty unfortunately) in our great country that think like this. WTF!

Here is why we have "more" black QB's these days than in the 90s, 80s 70s etc. - - - the rage these days is the "dual threat" QB. For whatever reason, there are more black guys than white guys that are Division 1 caliber with that skill set. Just like on the US Olympic team, the majority of the sprinters are black - there are more of faster black guys than white guys. (I'm not going to debate why - that's another topic.)

And since we have evolved as a society, it is acceptable to have a black guy as a QB in 2017 unlike it being a rare occurrence in the 70s. Back then, people had the ignorant stereotype that blacks were not "smart" enough to play QB and/or should not be leading "white" men.

So, no coach is trying to "go the other way too much" in playing black guys at QB. In most instances, it is because that coach feels that a dual threat QB is their best option at that position. If they had a faster, better guy at that position who was not black, they would play them. Has nothing to do with race these days as far as picking your QB's.

You may not like it. You may like your drop back, non-running QB, and that's fine. Like someone said above, your choice. And they can succeed greatly, too, and win championships just like athletic dual threat QB's can.

But if you are obsessed with this race thing and think coaches are seeking out black QB's to be PC, then you have some issues

Exactly. And if you're a white dual-threat QB, you can play as a frosh or sophmore as well. Tim Tebow? Johnny Football? It may not translate to the pros but it fits certain coaches' college systems.

TIME TO BRING BACK THE OBAMA CAGES!

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Quote Originally Posted by cappy22:

Sorry man this is plain and simple ignorant and f'd up thinking that black QB's are being played "more" due to "political correctness," I imagine more people have not chimed in on this nonsense because a) it is labor day weekend and they have better things to do, and/or b) this is so off the wall it isn't worthy of a response, and/or c) it was very late when the comeback was complete. The reason you say "more" black QB's today has nothing to do with "political correctness" no matter what some clown on TV or some blog or one of your stupid drunk low-IQ friends are telling you.

I haven't posted in forever, but this crapola drives me nuts. We really have people (and plenty unfortunately) in our great country that think like this. WTF!

Here is why we have "more" black QB's these days than in the 90s, 80s 70s etc. - - - the rage these days is the "dual threat" QB. For whatever reason, there are more black guys than white guys that are Division 1 caliber with that skill set. Just like on the US Olympic team, the majority of the sprinters are black - there are more of faster black guys than white guys. (I'm not going to debate why - that's another topic.)

And since we have evolved as a society, it is acceptable to have a black guy as a QB in 2017 unlike it being a rare occurrence in the 70s. Back then, people had the ignorant stereotype that blacks were not "smart" enough to play QB and/or should not be leading "white" men.

So, no coach is trying to "go the other way too much" in playing black guys at QB. In most instances, it is because that coach feels that a dual threat QB is their best option at that position. If they had a faster, better guy at that position who was not black, they would play them. Has nothing to do with race these days as far as picking your QB's.

You may not like it. You may like your drop back, non-running QB, and that's fine. Like someone said above, your choice. And they can succeed greatly, too, and win championships just like athletic dual threat QB's can.

But if you are obsessed with this race thing and think coaches are seeking out black QB's to be PC, then you have some issues

Exactly. And if you're a white dual-threat QB, you can play as a frosh or sophmore as well. Tim Tebow? Johnny Football? It may not translate to the pros but it fits certain coaches' college systems.

budwiser

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Posted: Sep. 4, 2017 - 1:41 AM ET #59

Quote Originally Posted by cappy22:

Sorry man this is plain and simple ignorant and f'd up thinking that black QB's are being played "more" due to "political correctness," I imagine more people have not chimed in on this nonsense because a) it is labor day weekend and they have better things to do, and/or b) this is so off the wall it isn't worthy of a response, and/or c) it was very late when the comeback was complete. The reason you say "more" black QB's today has nothing to do with "political correctness" no matter what some clown on TV or some blog or one of your stupid drunk low-IQ friends are telling you.

I haven't posted in forever, but this crapola drives me nuts. We really have people (and plenty unfortunately) in our great country that think like this. WTF!

Here is why we have "more" black QB's these days than in the 90s, 80s 70s etc. - - - the rage these days is the "dual threat" QB. For whatever reason, there are more black guys than white guys that are Division 1 caliber with that skill set. Just like on the US Olympic team, the majority of the sprinters are black - there are more of faster black guys than white guys. (I'm not going to debate why - that's another topic.)

And since we have evolved as a society, it is acceptable to have a black guy as a QB in 2017 unlike it being a rare occurrence in the 70s. Back then, people had the ignorant stereotype that blacks were not "smart" enough to play QB and/or should not be leading "white" men.

So, no coach is trying to "go the other way too much" in playing black guys at QB. In most instances, it is because that coach feels that a dual threat QB is their best option at that position. If they had a faster, better guy at that position who was not black, they would play them. Has nothing to do with race these days as far as picking your QB's.

You may not like it. You may like your drop back, non-running QB, and that's fine. Like someone said above, your choice. And they can succeed greatly, too, and win championships just like athletic dual threat QB's can.

But if you are obsessed with this race thing and think coaches are seeking out black QB's to be PC, then you have some issues

as i have said over and over again, only thing i truly like here is ca$hing.....and the occasional joke and fun

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Quote Originally Posted by cappy22:

Sorry man this is plain and simple ignorant and f'd up thinking that black QB's are being played "more" due to "political correctness," I imagine more people have not chimed in on this nonsense because a) it is labor day weekend and they have better things to do, and/or b) this is so off the wall it isn't worthy of a response, and/or c) it was very late when the comeback was complete. The reason you say "more" black QB's today has nothing to do with "political correctness" no matter what some clown on TV or some blog or one of your stupid drunk low-IQ friends are telling you.

I haven't posted in forever, but this crapola drives me nuts. We really have people (and plenty unfortunately) in our great country that think like this. WTF!

Here is why we have "more" black QB's these days than in the 90s, 80s 70s etc. - - - the rage these days is the "dual threat" QB. For whatever reason, there are more black guys than white guys that are Division 1 caliber with that skill set. Just like on the US Olympic team, the majority of the sprinters are black - there are more of faster black guys than white guys. (I'm not going to debate why - that's another topic.)

And since we have evolved as a society, it is acceptable to have a black guy as a QB in 2017 unlike it being a rare occurrence in the 70s. Back then, people had the ignorant stereotype that blacks were not "smart" enough to play QB and/or should not be leading "white" men.

So, no coach is trying to "go the other way too much" in playing black guys at QB. In most instances, it is because that coach feels that a dual threat QB is their best option at that position. If they had a faster, better guy at that position who was not black, they would play them. Has nothing to do with race these days as far as picking your QB's.

You may not like it. You may like your drop back, non-running QB, and that's fine. Like someone said above, your choice. And they can succeed greatly, too, and win championships just like athletic dual threat QB's can.

But if you are obsessed with this race thing and think coaches are seeking out black QB's to be PC, then you have some issues

as i have said over and over again, only thing i truly like here is ca$hing.....and the occasional joke and fun

StumpTownStu

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Posted: Sep. 4, 2017 - 1:45 AM ET #60

Quote Originally Posted by budwiser:

well he chose the frosh over this guy, you tell me

12thman.com/roster.aspx?rp_id=3372

He chose a white sophmore over that guy first. So it's not race. You don't know what's going on in that locker room or with that kid that led to him being passed over not once but twice. They're college kids. Maybe he'll play next week.

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budwiser

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Posted: Sep. 4, 2017 - 1:46 AM ET #61

Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu:

He chose a white sophmore over that guy first. So it's not race. You don't know what's going on in that locker room or with that kid that led to him being passed over not once but twice. They're college kids. Maybe he'll play next week.

you kidding me look at those credentials...

and if it was the other way around and they started a white frosh, you'd say NOTHING, right???!!! lol

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budwiser

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Posted: Sep. 4, 2017 - 1:48 AM ET #62

Team...................'s top returning passer with 1,283 career yards and nine TDs (3 interceptions) on 101-of-179 attempts
Has made starts against Louisville, Ole Miss and UTSA and seen action in 13 games over the past two seasons

2016 (JUNIOR)
Sowwwwwwww...... action in seven games with starts against Ole Miss and UTSA ... completed 61-of-104 passes for 884 yards and six toucdowns with 2 interceptions ... also carried the ball 31 times for 44 yards ... stepped in for the injured Trevor Knight late in the second quarter against Mississippi State and threw for 222 yards and two touchdowns on 11-of-17 passing ... threw for more than 200 yards in each of his two starts -- 213 yards and two touchdowns on 16-of-27 passing vs. Ole Miss and 248 yards and a score on 19-of-32 attempts vs. UTSA.

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StumpTownStu

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Posted: Sep. 4, 2017 - 1:48 AM ET #63

Quote Originally Posted by budwiser:

as i have said over and over again, only thing i truly like here is ca$hing.....and the occasional joke and fun

And for all I care you could be a member of the clan, i'm still gonna wish you well on your wagers. We're all brothers of the sporting life. Like you said, green is the only color that matters in here. BOL this season.

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budwiser

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Posted: Sep. 4, 2017 - 1:51 AM ET #64

Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu:

And for all I care you could be a member of the clan, i'm still gonna wish you well on your wagers. We're all brothers of the sporting life. Like you said, green is the only color that matters in here. BOL this season.

i'm not but who cares if i'm a member of the clan or black panthers...

yeah good luck man. i'm only here to ca$h i'm too old to be a young guy out for justice trust me on that one.

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StumpTownStu

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Posted: Sep. 4, 2017 - 1:55 AM ET #65

And for the last tine, they didn't start a black frosh, they started a white sophmore. He went down and then the frosh went in. So clearly there's a reason your boy got passed over and it's not race. Again, you don't know what's going on in that locker room.

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budwiser

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Posted: Sep. 4, 2017 - 9:00 AM ET #66

Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu:

And for the last tine, they didn't start a black frosh, they started a white sophmore. He went down and then the frosh went in. So clearly there's a reason your boy got passed over and it's not race. Again, you don't know what's going on in that locker room.

replaced...you're getting into semantics

we do know what goes on in the locker room. sumlin is on record saying race is an issue, saying he was glad they stopped a rally. what does that have to do with a&m football, why did he feel a need to go on record with that????

and why was he unable to see what everyone else saw-that the frosh was deer-in-the-headlights. 3 for 17 47 yards

it's ugly stuff, but as i said many-a-time this is a wagering forum and the main priority is to ca$h

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