because that is the way the system is set up.. In a heavywight boxing match, the leader of the match after twelve rounds isn't declared the winner just because he was slightly ahead, when he knows the signed up for a 15 round fight... When Bama lost to LSU, they didn't drop far because everyone who saw the game saw how the game played out, saw that Bama actually outplayed them, and squandered numerous opportunities that would have given them the victory. Okie State, Oklahoma, Oregon, Stanford and Boise all had an opportinity, and guess what? they blew it big time, by losing to scrubs....
In boxing, when one fighter wins the first
bout and the other wins the second, they always fight a third to prove who the better fighter is. So thats fine, Bama can play but if they win than they have to play them again to win the National Championship.
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Quote Originally Posted by tideman:
because that is the way the system is set up.. In a heavywight boxing match, the leader of the match after twelve rounds isn't declared the winner just because he was slightly ahead, when he knows the signed up for a 15 round fight... When Bama lost to LSU, they didn't drop far because everyone who saw the game saw how the game played out, saw that Bama actually outplayed them, and squandered numerous opportunities that would have given them the victory. Okie State, Oklahoma, Oregon, Stanford and Boise all had an opportinity, and guess what? they blew it big time, by losing to scrubs....
In boxing, when one fighter wins the first
bout and the other wins the second, they always fight a third to prove who the better fighter is. So thats fine, Bama can play but if they win than they have to play them again to win the National Championship.
1- Iowa St is ranked in the top 30 with a SOS of 8 in most polls
2- are you looking at that one game? or what a team did all year long..
Yes, ISU lost was bad, but taht was also on short week and 1 day after plane crash killing OSU womens bball coaches..
if you look at just losses, Bama deserves to go.. if you're looking at overall resume, hard to dispute Okie State has a much better overall resume
Let's really take a look at this whole SOS thing that you put so much stock into.... Iowa st, who has an SOS ranking of 6 has played some amazing teams, and had a tough schedule. Iowa St is kind of like a Vandy in our conference... A team you just don't lose to... Iowa st, and Vandy both played Uconn, and they both won in about the same margin. You claim that Ok st's loss to Iowa st is legit, because of their SOS. Well look at the teams they played... A lot of big name teams, yes... But what happened in those games? They got dominated. So what good is having this SOS ranking, if you are just gonna lose every game. Vandy has a SOS ranking of 32, and a 6-6 record, but does that make Iowa st a better team than them? Obviously not, and they got dominated by Bama 34-0. I am sure if you look hard enough, you can see that the same goes for most of these so called high up SOS ranked teams that Ok st. has played.
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Quote Originally Posted by SatNightFever05:
that's fair.. however 2 pts..
1- Iowa St is ranked in the top 30 with a SOS of 8 in most polls
2- are you looking at that one game? or what a team did all year long..
Yes, ISU lost was bad, but taht was also on short week and 1 day after plane crash killing OSU womens bball coaches..
if you look at just losses, Bama deserves to go.. if you're looking at overall resume, hard to dispute Okie State has a much better overall resume
Let's really take a look at this whole SOS thing that you put so much stock into.... Iowa st, who has an SOS ranking of 6 has played some amazing teams, and had a tough schedule. Iowa St is kind of like a Vandy in our conference... A team you just don't lose to... Iowa st, and Vandy both played Uconn, and they both won in about the same margin. You claim that Ok st's loss to Iowa st is legit, because of their SOS. Well look at the teams they played... A lot of big name teams, yes... But what happened in those games? They got dominated. So what good is having this SOS ranking, if you are just gonna lose every game. Vandy has a SOS ranking of 32, and a 6-6 record, but does that make Iowa st a better team than them? Obviously not, and they got dominated by Bama 34-0. I am sure if you look hard enough, you can see that the same goes for most of these so called high up SOS ranked teams that Ok st. has played.
because that is the way the system is set up.. In a heavywight boxing match, the leader of the match after twelve rounds isn't declared the winner just because he was slightly ahead, when he knows the signed up for a 15 round fight... When Bama lost to LSU, they didn't drop far because everyone who saw the game saw how the game played out, saw that Bama actually outplayed them, and squandered numerous opportunities that would have given them the victory.
Okie State, Oklahoma, Oregon, Stanford and Boise all had an opportinity, and guess what? they blew it big time, by losing to scrubs....
Agree 99%
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Quote Originally Posted by tideman:
because that is the way the system is set up.. In a heavywight boxing match, the leader of the match after twelve rounds isn't declared the winner just because he was slightly ahead, when he knows the signed up for a 15 round fight... When Bama lost to LSU, they didn't drop far because everyone who saw the game saw how the game played out, saw that Bama actually outplayed them, and squandered numerous opportunities that would have given them the victory.
Okie State, Oklahoma, Oregon, Stanford and Boise all had an opportinity, and guess what? they blew it big time, by losing to scrubs....
what about bama, they scored 6 pts at home to the #1 team and lost, not 1 td the entire game, including overtime...even kentucky and western kentucky scored more pts against lsu..
bottom line is u have to look at other stats besides okie st losing as a huge favorite because when u look closer they have every right (if they beat the sooners) to be the #2 team and play in the title game
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Quote Originally Posted by DoubleUp4Life:
Oklahoma St lost as a 4 TD Favorite
end of story
what about bama, they scored 6 pts at home to the #1 team and lost, not 1 td the entire game, including overtime...even kentucky and western kentucky scored more pts against lsu..
bottom line is u have to look at other stats besides okie st losing as a huge favorite because when u look closer they have every right (if they beat the sooners) to be the #2 team and play in the title game
what about bama, they scored 6 pts at home to the #1 team and lost, not 1 td the entire game, including overtime...even kentucky and western kentucky scored more pts against lsu..
bottom line is u have to look at other stats besides okie st losing as a huge favorite because when u look closer they have every right (if they beat the sooners) to be the #2 team and play in the title game
What a dumbass... When two defensive, evenly matched teams go into a hyped up game like that, especially in the SEC, it's always going to be a low scoring affair. Its called Defense, you should check it out sometime...
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Quote Originally Posted by raffchfd:
what about bama, they scored 6 pts at home to the #1 team and lost, not 1 td the entire game, including overtime...even kentucky and western kentucky scored more pts against lsu..
bottom line is u have to look at other stats besides okie st losing as a huge favorite because when u look closer they have every right (if they beat the sooners) to be the #2 team and play in the title game
What a dumbass... When two defensive, evenly matched teams go into a hyped up game like that, especially in the SEC, it's always going to be a low scoring affair. Its called Defense, you should check it out sometime...
The BCS love it or hate it has done a pretty good job for the most part of pairing the best two teams... even the people on this forum, who is lobbying for Ok State has admitted that they believe LSU and Bama are the two best teams... isn't that what its all about? As far as the people arguing that Bama shouldn't go because they didn't win their conference championship... there is nothing that says you have to... and for a good reason.... who says that the best two teams in America can't be in the same division of the same conference... they damn sure are this year... In my opinion none of this will matter anyway on Monday, once the Sooners win on Saturday... If Bama had lost to Vandy.. do you think they would be up for discussion for a shot at the Championship? of course not... so it is extremely silly that anyone thinks the Cowboys should be.
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The BCS love it or hate it has done a pretty good job for the most part of pairing the best two teams... even the people on this forum, who is lobbying for Ok State has admitted that they believe LSU and Bama are the two best teams... isn't that what its all about? As far as the people arguing that Bama shouldn't go because they didn't win their conference championship... there is nothing that says you have to... and for a good reason.... who says that the best two teams in America can't be in the same division of the same conference... they damn sure are this year... In my opinion none of this will matter anyway on Monday, once the Sooners win on Saturday... If Bama had lost to Vandy.. do you think they would be up for discussion for a shot at the Championship? of course not... so it is extremely silly that anyone thinks the Cowboys should be.
I also don't see why everyone thinks Ok st deserves all this credit, IF they beat Oklahoma. I was saying that if they beat them considerably that they should have a shot, but now I realize that Oklahoma is just as big of a joke when compared to Bama/Lsu as Ok st is. Oklahoma lost to Texas Tech, LMFAO! HAHAHAH!
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I also don't see why everyone thinks Ok st deserves all this credit, IF they beat Oklahoma. I was saying that if they beat them considerably that they should have a shot, but now I realize that Oklahoma is just as big of a joke when compared to Bama/Lsu as Ok st is. Oklahoma lost to Texas Tech, LMFAO! HAHAHAH!
what about bama, they scored 6 pts at home to the #1 team and lost, not 1 td the entire game, including overtime...even kentucky and western kentucky scored more pts against lsu..
bottom line is u have to look at other stats besides okie st losing as a huge favorite because when u look closer they have every right (if they beat the sooners) to be the #2 team and play in the title game
did LSU score a TD ??? vs Bama
Trust me , I would love to see Ok. St in the Champ game , having $100 at 33-1 on them
They just don't deserve to be there .....
Sorry I just can't get past the Loss as a HUGE 4 TD Favorite ....
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Quote Originally Posted by raffchfd:
what about bama, they scored 6 pts at home to the #1 team and lost, not 1 td the entire game, including overtime...even kentucky and western kentucky scored more pts against lsu..
bottom line is u have to look at other stats besides okie st losing as a huge favorite because when u look closer they have every right (if they beat the sooners) to be the #2 team and play in the title game
did LSU score a TD ??? vs Bama
Trust me , I would love to see Ok. St in the Champ game , having $100 at 33-1 on them
They just don't deserve to be there .....
Sorry I just can't get past the Loss as a HUGE 4 TD Favorite ....
what about bama, they scored 6 pts at home to the #1 team and lost, not 1 td the entire game, including overtime...even kentucky and western kentucky scored more pts against lsu..
bottom line is u have to look at other stats besides okie st losing as a huge favorite because when u look closer they have every right (if they beat the sooners) to be the #2 team and play in the title game
[/Quote this has to be the dumbest argument I've ever read... thats like saying Georgia Southern is better than LSU, because they scored more points on Bama than LSU did....
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[Quote: Originally Posted by raffchfd]
what about bama, they scored 6 pts at home to the #1 team and lost, not 1 td the entire game, including overtime...even kentucky and western kentucky scored more pts against lsu..
bottom line is u have to look at other stats besides okie st losing as a huge favorite because when u look closer they have every right (if they beat the sooners) to be the #2 team and play in the title game
[/Quote this has to be the dumbest argument I've ever read... thats like saying Georgia Southern is better than LSU, because they scored more points on Bama than LSU did....
Trust me , I would love to see Ok. St in the Champ game , having $100 at 33-1 on them
They just don't deserve to be there .....
double
i respect your opinion and enjoy reading your threads but can somebody please tell me y bama should have another chance against lsu after losing at home to the already this season??? like someone else said what was the prupose of the first game?? i would just like some reasonable responses, not some homer response like tappy continues to give
Sorry I just can't get past the Loss as a HUGE 4 TD Favorite ....
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Quote Originally Posted by DoubleUp4Life:
did LSU score a TD ??? vs Bama
Trust me , I would love to see Ok. St in the Champ game , having $100 at 33-1 on them
They just don't deserve to be there .....
double
i respect your opinion and enjoy reading your threads but can somebody please tell me y bama should have another chance against lsu after losing at home to the already this season??? like someone else said what was the prupose of the first game?? i would just like some reasonable responses, not some homer response like tappy continues to give
Sorry I just can't get past the Loss as a HUGE 4 TD Favorite ....
what about bama, they scored 6 pts at home to the #1 team and lost, not 1 td the entire game, including overtime...even kentucky and western kentucky scored more pts against lsu..
bottom line is u have to look at other stats besides okie st losing as a huge favorite because when u look closer they have every right (if they beat the sooners) to be the #2 team and play in the title game
[/Quote this has to be the dumbest argument I've ever read... thats like saying Georgia Southern is better than LSU, because they scored more points on Bama than LSU did....
A perfect example of typing before you think... It's a crime, and something needs to be done about it!
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Quote Originally Posted by tideman:
Quote Originally Posted by raffchfd:
what about bama, they scored 6 pts at home to the #1 team and lost, not 1 td the entire game, including overtime...even kentucky and western kentucky scored more pts against lsu..
bottom line is u have to look at other stats besides okie st losing as a huge favorite because when u look closer they have every right (if they beat the sooners) to be the #2 team and play in the title game
[/Quote this has to be the dumbest argument I've ever read... thats like saying Georgia Southern is better than LSU, because they scored more points on Bama than LSU did....
A perfect example of typing before you think... It's a crime, and something needs to be done about it!
He gave the same response I give, but because I'm from Alabama and you don't like it, it's a "homer" response, and has no claim.
As I have said, and as everyone else has said, the National Championship is about the two best teams in the nation playing against each other. Bama and LSU are the two best teams, obviously, so they should play. Who cares who lost where, and when, it was obvious in that game that Bama is the only team that can compete against LSU.
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Quote Originally Posted by raffchfd:
He gave the same response I give, but because I'm from Alabama and you don't like it, it's a "homer" response, and has no claim.
As I have said, and as everyone else has said, the National Championship is about the two best teams in the nation playing against each other. Bama and LSU are the two best teams, obviously, so they should play. Who cares who lost where, and when, it was obvious in that game that Bama is the only team that can compete against LSU.
2006 Ohio St vs Michigan. #1 vs #2. Game of the Year!! Ohio State wins 42-39. Michigan does not get to replay Ohio State for the National Championship.
Sorry Bama, you had the opportunity and you lost!
Bama fans should be the biggest advocates for a playoff cause that is the ONLY way they should get a second chance!
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2006 Ohio St vs Michigan. #1 vs #2. Game of the Year!! Ohio State wins 42-39. Michigan does not get to replay Ohio State for the National Championship.
Sorry Bama, you had the opportunity and you lost!
Bama fans should be the biggest advocates for a playoff cause that is the ONLY way they should get a second chance!
2006 Ohio St vs Michigan. #1 vs #2. Game of the Year!! Ohio State wins 42-39. Michigan does not get to replay Ohio State for the National Championship.
Sorry Bama, you had the opportunity and you lost!
Bama fans should be the biggest advocates for a playoff cause that is the ONLY way they should get a second chance!
I remember watching that Game and thinking how Overrated OSU and Michigan were ....
Did not see much defense that day .... Sloppy tackles and Angles
I hated on the BIG10 that year and it payed off in the NCG
Surely that Hate has cost me since then ,,,, I have tried to wise up ....
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Quote Originally Posted by DtotheP:
2006 Ohio St vs Michigan. #1 vs #2. Game of the Year!! Ohio State wins 42-39. Michigan does not get to replay Ohio State for the National Championship.
Sorry Bama, you had the opportunity and you lost!
Bama fans should be the biggest advocates for a playoff cause that is the ONLY way they should get a second chance!
I remember watching that Game and thinking how Overrated OSU and Michigan were ....
Did not see much defense that day .... Sloppy tackles and Angles
I hated on the BIG10 that year and it payed off in the NCG
Surely that Hate has cost me since then ,,,, I have tried to wise up ....
2006 Ohio St vs Michigan. #1 vs #2. Game of the Year!! Ohio State wins 42-39. Michigan does not get to replay Ohio State for the National Championship.
Sorry Bama, you had the opportunity and you lost!
Bama fans should be the biggest advocates for a playoff cause that is the ONLY way they should get a second chance!
Your pities don't matter really.... We are gonna be playing in the National Championship, so get used to it.
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Quote Originally Posted by DtotheP:
2006 Ohio St vs Michigan. #1 vs #2. Game of the Year!! Ohio State wins 42-39. Michigan does not get to replay Ohio State for the National Championship.
Sorry Bama, you had the opportunity and you lost!
Bama fans should be the biggest advocates for a playoff cause that is the ONLY way they should get a second chance!
Your pities don't matter really.... We are gonna be playing in the National Championship, so get used to it.
2006 Ohio St vs Michigan. #1 vs #2. Game of the Year!! Ohio State wins 42-39. Michigan does not get to replay Ohio State for the National Championship.
Sorry Bama, you had the opportunity and you lost!
Bama fans should be the biggest advocates for a playoff cause that is the ONLY way they should get a second chance!
could not agree more
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Quote Originally Posted by DtotheP:
2006 Ohio St vs Michigan. #1 vs #2. Game of the Year!! Ohio State wins 42-39. Michigan does not get to replay Ohio State for the National Championship.
Sorry Bama, you had the opportunity and you lost!
Bama fans should be the biggest advocates for a playoff cause that is the ONLY way they should get a second chance!
I remember watching that Game and thinking how Overrated OSU and Michigan were ....
Did not see much defense that day .... Sloppy tackles and Angles
I hated on the BIG10 that year and it payed off in the NCG
Surely that Hate has cost me since then ,,,, I have tried to wise up ....
Ohio State went into that NCG as a 14 point favorite and had to wait 51 days to play the game. If those teams were overrated you were just about the only one who thought so.
That's beside the point. The point is you don't get rewarded after losing! If any team deserved a second chance, that was probably the year. They didn't and they still don't.
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Quote Originally Posted by DoubleUp4Life:
I remember watching that Game and thinking how Overrated OSU and Michigan were ....
Did not see much defense that day .... Sloppy tackles and Angles
I hated on the BIG10 that year and it payed off in the NCG
Surely that Hate has cost me since then ,,,, I have tried to wise up ....
Ohio State went into that NCG as a 14 point favorite and had to wait 51 days to play the game. If those teams were overrated you were just about the only one who thought so.
That's beside the point. The point is you don't get rewarded after losing! If any team deserved a second chance, that was probably the year. They didn't and they still don't.
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