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A&M-38 Pokes-27
 
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Oklahoma St - 31                     Texas A&M - 21

Cowboys -3                          under 67

I'm just looking at who they played so far this season and the Cowboy schedule is a little more impressive. This will be A&M's first game on the road and aside from Texas and Oklahoma no other Big 12 teams have had a lot of success traveling to Stillwater and coming out a winner. Until it happens I'll lose my money on the Cowboys.

Okla St - Under

 

 
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Over seems to be the "hot" pick but looking at both D's I see a little lower total.  Tex A&M hasn't played any good off but still respectable and OSU has played some decent off but gave up points.  I think D on both sides show up this week.  Leaning Under but will wait and see if I can get a better number by tomorrow.
 
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Quote Originally Posted by johnobvious:

Ok St was a 17 point chalk to Colorado on a Thursday night last year and barely won the game and looked like crap in the process.  Not a big trend but they may not get up for weekday home games.


OK St. starting qb was out that game
 
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does the -3 seem a little light to anyone? the cowboys look to be better than that. or is A&M D stellar or something what am i missing? or am i reading it correctly.

first instince cowboys n the over?

 
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Game is showing me a close matchup....Defense prevails over a somewhat "OK" offense.  Many will get on OK. St..... which will push me towards......

Texas A&M +3.5

 
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Quote Originally Posted by voldkoff:

does the -3 seem a little light to anyone? the cowboys look to be better than that. or is A&M D stellar or something what am i missing? or am i reading it correctly.

first instince cowboys n the over?

Of course there is something else.....I dont know it....and probably not too many do....

BUT....line opened up at Oklahoma State -3.5, and currently with 83% of public money on Oklahoma State.....line moved to -3.

This is not the way its supposed to move....

Take that for what its worth......or if you even care....but I pay attention to it....and it worked for me with GB/Bears, SMU/TCU, and Bama/Ark. to name 3 recent games. 

 
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A&M +3..... Look for this game to stay very close and low. I actually see the Aggies win this game in the 4th quarter. Lets not forget that OKST barely hung on two weeks ago to beat TROY 41-38.

A&M  27    OKST  26

 
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Under 66.5, OSU -3.0
 
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A&M QB so far  7 td's  / 4 itnt's

Okla. St. QB so far 11 td's  / 2 int's

Cowboys at home -3

 
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Quote Originally Posted by ejdav:

Of course there is something else.....I dont know it....and probably not too many do....

BUT....line opened up at Oklahoma State -3.5, and currently with 83% of public money on Oklahoma State.....line moved to -3.

This is not the way its supposed to move....

Take that for what its worth......or if you even care....but I pay attention to it....and it worked for me with GB/Bears, SMU/TCU, and Bama/Ark. to name 3 recent games. 


with you on this one as well BoL 
 
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Quote Originally Posted by tarheelball22:

Plus everyone is talking about their D...the O/U is 68, doesn't sound like a whole lot of D from anyone.


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  With a gun to my head!

OKLAHOMA STATE  -- 3  (2 units)

 
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Great insight both sides. Finally a thread that hopefully doesnt end in a pissing contest. No need for hate just all of us rooting for the green team that gives us the large. Good luck all!
 
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Quote Originally Posted by FoolTime:

Thursday night game... Public is on OSU. Line opens @ 3.5, then drops to 3. Why is this line so low...? This is thier first conference game and from what I can tell... Both teams have played level talent (or lack thereof). A&M has outgained OSU vs their opponents by 72 yards. Where OSU seems to have the edge in offense, A&M seems to have the edge in defense.

I am a big Jerrod Johnson fan... I think he has the kind of talent that only comes along every once in awhile. If he becomes more consistant this team will find themselves in the top 25. If this was a home game for A&M I would be on them large. Playing in Stillwater, I am more hesitant to pull the trigger on a particular side, rather I am interested in the under. I like looking at the history of the lines as a part of my decision. Normally a small part of my decision. But, Thursday night's decision will almost solely be based on the line being set at 3 and the average O/U between these two teams since 2001 being 55.8. I feel like the number is set high given the scoring both teams have been able to produce this year vs. less talented squads.

Since 2002, this game has gone over 6 of 8 times. The only two times this game went under the mark the O/U was @ 62 & 64 (I see a trend @ 66). In fact, the only time this game has gone over with the O/U being set in the 60's was in 2008 and the line was 61. Each other game ranged from 46.5-58.5.

In summary, 66 seems too high with both teams finally being tested. I feel this figure is almost definately driven by the average points scored (OSU-57/A&M-41). As for the little pattern and history of these over/under lines... Call it OCD. But, history tends to repeat itself and I can't tell you how may games I've played on the line history and won. Probably a coincidence, but it gives me confidence going into Thursday and that's all that matters.

    

Sorry for the bore gents... My final play is UNDER 66 (Large) & a very small play on A&M +3.

Good Luck to All...


66 sounds way too high on a Thursday night.  I think you may be partially right about some of the trends.  They do get noticed, and what the average person notices is that these two usually score a lot.  However the total number makes all the difference in world.  

I have a feeling the game will probably land in the mid 50's low 60's making this a winner.  I do like A&M on the ML as more of a chance to happen though.  I feel with games set up like this you can set yourself up for the OT to ruin the under.

These teams haven't played against anyone significant, usually when they come into conference play the games become a lot more competitive and lower scoring (the 1st game in general although it doesn't necessarily mean the game will likely be under, just low scoring).
 
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osu over seems way to easy!!! im taking a&m and under big!
 
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EJDAV.. About what you said on the "Line Movement" not correlating with the Public Perception. What are you basing that upon. According to my knowledge, Public Consensus is one thing, but that has no relation as to which side the Money is acctually flowing. My understanding is the Line is "Intended" to generate or to inflict equal action on both sides to create "Juice".  Basically creating a toss up. WIth this line opening at OK st -3.5 at most sites and are now at -3.0 would indicate heavier wadgering on TX A&M and not OK St. So, with the same logic, in this case, wouldn't the Pick be OK st -3 and not A&M? either way, BOL to Everyone, there is nothing I hate more than paying the book. OK ST-3 and Under 66 for the Game.  
 
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Quote Originally Posted by Vortechta00:

EJDAV.. About what you said on the "Line Movement" not correlating with the Public Perception. What are you basing that upon. According to my knowledge, Public Consensus is one thing, but that has no relation as to which side the Money is acctually flowing. My understanding is the Line is "Intended" to generate or to inflict equal action on both sides to create "Juice".  Basically creating a toss up. WIth this line opening at OK st -3.5 at most sites and are now at -3.0 would indicate heavier wadgering on TX A&M and not OK St. So, with the same logic, in this case, wouldn't the Pick be OK st -3 and not A&M? either way, BOL to Everyone, there is nothing I hate more than paying the book. OK ST-3 and Under 66 for the Game.  

public perception is based more on how many people bet on a side.. not the amount of money on a side.. personally, I use both the covers.com scoreboard, as well as the vegasinsider.com scoreboard when I look at where the public is at.. thus being said, if you have greater then 75% of the public placing the bet on one side, that will almost always cancel out the amount bet on the other, being Texas A&M.. So if more people bet on Oklahoma State and the line goes from 3.5 to 3, which if you like Oklahoma State is good, then the more money that will come in on OK State.. 
 
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Quote Originally Posted by phancard:

First though is OK St -3.5 and Over. Will be back with pick..

i think im going that route myself...not to sure on the side, but i see alot of fireworks...this game should be very high scoring

bol all
 
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Texas A&M:
  • Over is 14-4-1 in TXAM last 19 conference games.
  • Over is 26-10-1 in TXAM last 37 road games.
  • TXAM are 17-36-1 ATS in their last 54 road games.
Oklahoma State:
  • Over is 38-15 in OKLST last 53 home games.
 
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hmmmmm....trending id say!

LETS GAMBLE!!!!!  OK ST AND OVER LARGE!!!!!!
 
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Bottom line is, how do both these teams fare on Thursday nights, and even more, how does A&M do with conference games on the road?

Cant find the Thurs night stat yet, but it looks like A & M doesnt play as well on the road in the conference...However, the public is pounding OSU.

need to think

 

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TEXAS A&M - Recent ATS Trends
  Against the spread Over/Under Straight Up
  Current Last 3    Since 1992 Current Last 3    Since 1992 Current Last 3    Since 1992
Description W-L W-L W-L O-U O-U O-U W-L W-L W-L
TEXAS A&M - Recent ATS Trends
  Against the spread Over/Under Straight Up
  Current Last 3    Since 1992 Current Last 3    Since 1992 Current Last 3    Since 1992
Description W-L W-L W-L O-U O-U O-U W-L W-L W-L

on Don Best it shows A&M is much worse on Thursdays then OSU with A&M  7-7 SU & 4-9 ATS since '92 & over 9-3.

OSU since '92 is 3-2 ATS, 4-2 SU, & over 3-1

...look at Don Best for more stats, but i think i am leaning A&M or no play, even though the stats above say other wise.  A&M has a lot of experince in Thurs night games, and it is the 1st conference game of the yr, granted on the road.  They will be pumped up.  I also think their QB could be a clock killing problem for Oak st, and the public loves OSU.

If i was to make a move, probably take the points or the over, but might sit this one out.  Dont know enough about these teams, know more about the SEC.

GL

 
 
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