Like i said before to you guys this is also my first year using these rules. When Uriss submitted his keepers to me he had Harper as a 4 year keeper and i told him to take it off and use his prospect contract. I too thought under these rules we could keep a minor leaguer under the prospect contract. If that is not the case it is my fault in the Harper case. Here are out choices.
A. Include minor leaguers
B. This is only would involve Uriss. If you guys say we should not include minor leaguers he could add Harper to his 4 year contract like he first wanted too and would have to decide which of his other players he would like to take a contract away from.
Its a prospect contract. I dont see why would should not include minor leaguers. I would just have to re write it to make everyone understand it better...
Like i said before to you guys this is also my first year using these rules. When Uriss submitted his keepers to me he had Harper as a 4 year keeper and i told him to take it off and use his prospect contract. I too thought under these rules we could keep a minor leaguer under the prospect contract. If that is not the case it is my fault in the Harper case. Here are out choices.
A. Include minor leaguers
B. This is only would involve Uriss. If you guys say we should not include minor leaguers he could add Harper to his 4 year contract like he first wanted too and would have to decide which of his other players he would like to take a contract away from.
Its a prospect contract. I dont see why would should not include minor leaguers. I would just have to re write it to make everyone understand it better...
You can't brake up those 2 words. If you do...that means you can give any player on your roster a 4-year contract because you stand out "ANY".
The player must be ELIGIBLE for the ROY award.
You can't brake up those 2 words. If you do...that means you can give any player on your roster a 4-year contract because you stand out "ANY".
The player must be ELIGIBLE for the ROY award.
Like i said before to you guys this is also my first year using these rules. When Uriss submitted his keepers to me he had Harper as a 4 year keeper and i told him to take it off and use his prospect contract. I too thought under these rules we could keep a minor leaguer under the prospect contract. If that is not the case it is my fault in the Harper case. Here are out choices.
A. Include minor leaguers
B. This is only would involve Uriss. If you guys say we should not include minor leaguers he could add Harper to his 4 year contract like he first wanted too and would have to decide which of his other players he would like to take a contract away from.
Its a prospect contract. I dont see why would should not include minor leaguers. I would just have to re write it to make everyone understand it better...
Alright...so you guys talked before this. He wanted Harper like STUBS has Strasburg.
I say go with option "B" because you already talked to him about this and he had the impression that he could give him the contract.
But to clear things up...the fact of the matter is...the name should be changed to a "rookie contract" and should only be given to rookies.
Also...nobody looks into THIS quote...
"It could also be a great tool to reserve a rookie prospect."
It's the final sentence on the "Franchise Tags" page. You can give your PROSPECT a franchise tag and then give him the rookie contract next year if he's worthy of it.
Like i said before to you guys this is also my first year using these rules. When Uriss submitted his keepers to me he had Harper as a 4 year keeper and i told him to take it off and use his prospect contract. I too thought under these rules we could keep a minor leaguer under the prospect contract. If that is not the case it is my fault in the Harper case. Here are out choices.
A. Include minor leaguers
B. This is only would involve Uriss. If you guys say we should not include minor leaguers he could add Harper to his 4 year contract like he first wanted too and would have to decide which of his other players he would like to take a contract away from.
Its a prospect contract. I dont see why would should not include minor leaguers. I would just have to re write it to make everyone understand it better...
Alright...so you guys talked before this. He wanted Harper like STUBS has Strasburg.
I say go with option "B" because you already talked to him about this and he had the impression that he could give him the contract.
But to clear things up...the fact of the matter is...the name should be changed to a "rookie contract" and should only be given to rookies.
Also...nobody looks into THIS quote...
"It could also be a great tool to reserve a rookie prospect."
It's the final sentence on the "Franchise Tags" page. You can give your PROSPECT a franchise tag and then give him the rookie contract next year if he's worthy of it.
Probably the way you should have started this discussion.
Because you're going by the NAME of the contract alone...not the rules behind it. I'm in no way "making shit up" since everything I said was coming DIRECTLY from the rules.
Probably the way you should have started this discussion.
Because you're going by the NAME of the contract alone...not the rules behind it. I'm in no way "making shit up" since everything I said was coming DIRECTLY from the rules.
Alright...so you guys talked before this. He wanted Harper like STUBS has Strasburg.
I say go with option "B" because you already talked to him about this and he had the impression that he could give him the contract.
But to clear things up...the fact of the matter is...the name should be changed to a "rookie contract" and should only be given to rookies.
Also...nobody looks into THIS quote...
"It could also be a great tool to reserve a rookie prospect."
It's the final sentence on the "Franchise Tags" page. You can give your PROSPECT a franchise tag and then give him the rookie contract next year if he's worthy of it.
Alright...so you guys talked before this. He wanted Harper like STUBS has Strasburg.
I say go with option "B" because you already talked to him about this and he had the impression that he could give him the contract.
But to clear things up...the fact of the matter is...the name should be changed to a "rookie contract" and should only be given to rookies.
Also...nobody looks into THIS quote...
"It could also be a great tool to reserve a rookie prospect."
It's the final sentence on the "Franchise Tags" page. You can give your PROSPECT a franchise tag and then give him the rookie contract next year if he's worthy of it.
The only reason you're so adamant on your side is because you were told SPECIFICALLY before the season started that you could keep him by the commish.
All I'm saying is that the rules are stated differently than what was told to you.
The only reason you're so adamant on your side is because you were told SPECIFICALLY before the season started that you could keep him by the commish.
All I'm saying is that the rules are stated differently than what was told to you.
I understood it the entire time...which was why I was trying so hard to get him from you. I was going to give him my Franchise Tag, which means I would have him next year, and then, at the end of NEXT YEAR, I would give him my prospect contract. Because that is 100% legal.
I won't lie...I was trying to be manipulative here to get Harper. But any time I talked about the rules...there was no lying involved. I don't know if you read the rules on the site...but it's not like philly and I are pulling them out of our asses.
I understood it the entire time...which was why I was trying so hard to get him from you. I was going to give him my Franchise Tag, which means I would have him next year, and then, at the end of NEXT YEAR, I would give him my prospect contract. Because that is 100% legal.
I won't lie...I was trying to be manipulative here to get Harper. But any time I talked about the rules...there was no lying involved. I don't know if you read the rules on the site...but it's not like philly and I are pulling them out of our asses.
So...with that said...can we have a new "prospect contract" every season? Or would we still have to bump our old prospect for a new one? I think we should have a discussion about that in the offseason.
Like I can't have Hosmer, Hellboy AND Britton...but I can have one for 4 years and get a guy like Montero next year...and he'll start HIS 4 years.
So...with that said...can we have a new "prospect contract" every season? Or would we still have to bump our old prospect for a new one? I think we should have a discussion about that in the offseason.
Like I can't have Hosmer, Hellboy AND Britton...but I can have one for 4 years and get a guy like Montero next year...and he'll start HIS 4 years.
I have not gone through and made any final decisions on the minor league roster for next year. When the time comes i will go through it. Im thinking if you draft a prospect and you activate him when he is called up you have him for 4 years. If 2 years you drafted Hosmer, Hellickson and Britton you would have them all for the following 4 years after they were called up.
I have not gone through and made any final decisions on the minor league roster for next year. When the time comes i will go through it. Im thinking if you draft a prospect and you activate him when he is called up you have him for 4 years. If 2 years you drafted Hosmer, Hellickson and Britton you would have them all for the following 4 years after they were called up.
Also at the end of the season, each team will be allowed one Prospect Contract. This contract can be used on any player who is on your roster and is also eligible for Major League’s Rookie of the Year award.
Looks like I have to post this AGAIN. Where does it say that you can give a minor leaguer a contract?
I'll break it down for you.
"This contract can be used on any player who is on your roster"
It doesn't specifically mean "ANY" player...because if it did...that means you can give Romero a 4-year contract just because he is "ANY" player.
"Also eligible for Major League's Rookie of the Year award"
A minor leaguer can't be eligible for the Major League Rookie of the Year award. Plain and simple.
The problem is how it was stated and what YOU were told. "AND" should be "WHO" and "PROSPECT CONTRACT" should be "ROOKIE CONTRACT"
I just don't appreciate being made a fool of because I read the rules properly.
Also at the end of the season, each team will be allowed one Prospect Contract. This contract can be used on any player who is on your roster and is also eligible for Major League’s Rookie of the Year award.
Looks like I have to post this AGAIN. Where does it say that you can give a minor leaguer a contract?
I'll break it down for you.
"This contract can be used on any player who is on your roster"
It doesn't specifically mean "ANY" player...because if it did...that means you can give Romero a 4-year contract just because he is "ANY" player.
"Also eligible for Major League's Rookie of the Year award"
A minor leaguer can't be eligible for the Major League Rookie of the Year award. Plain and simple.
The problem is how it was stated and what YOU were told. "AND" should be "WHO" and "PROSPECT CONTRACT" should be "ROOKIE CONTRACT"
I just don't appreciate being made a fool of because I read the rules properly.
Yes...the "franchise tag" rules. Not the "prospect contract" rules.
Yes...the "franchise tag" rules. Not the "prospect contract" rules.
If anything...this hurts URISS a little bit. If he gives a prospect contract to Harper...than he loses his rookie for next year.
If he picks up a hot rookie in July who is now eligible, he can give him the prospect contract, Harper the franchise tag (because he was picked in the final 10 rounds of the draft) and he'll have both next year. And lets say Harper breaks his leg like Kendry Morales (God forbid), then he has lost out on a top prospect and won't get that hot pickup in July back.
If anything...this hurts URISS a little bit. If he gives a prospect contract to Harper...than he loses his rookie for next year.
If he picks up a hot rookie in July who is now eligible, he can give him the prospect contract, Harper the franchise tag (because he was picked in the final 10 rounds of the draft) and he'll have both next year. And lets say Harper breaks his leg like Kendry Morales (God forbid), then he has lost out on a top prospect and won't get that hot pickup in July back.
Also at the end of the season, each team will be allowed one Prospect Contract. This contract can be used on any player who is on your roster and is also eligible for Major League’s Rookie of the Year award.
Looks like I have to post this AGAIN. Where does it say that you can give a minor leaguer a contract?
I'll break it down for you.
"This contract can be used on any player who is on your roster"
It doesn't specifically mean "ANY" player...because if it did...that means you can give Romero a 4-year contract just because he is "ANY" player.
"Also eligible for Major League's Rookie of the Year award"
A minor leaguer can't be eligible for the Major League Rookie of the Year award. Plain and simple.
The problem is how it was stated and what YOU were told. "AND" should be "WHO" and "PROSPECT CONTRACT" should be "ROOKIE CONTRACT"
I just don't appreciate being made a fool of because I read the rules properly.
Also at the end of the season, each team will be allowed one Prospect Contract. This contract can be used on any player who is on your roster and is also eligible for Major League’s Rookie of the Year award.
Looks like I have to post this AGAIN. Where does it say that you can give a minor leaguer a contract?
I'll break it down for you.
"This contract can be used on any player who is on your roster"
It doesn't specifically mean "ANY" player...because if it did...that means you can give Romero a 4-year contract just because he is "ANY" player.
"Also eligible for Major League's Rookie of the Year award"
A minor leaguer can't be eligible for the Major League Rookie of the Year award. Plain and simple.
The problem is how it was stated and what YOU were told. "AND" should be "WHO" and "PROSPECT CONTRACT" should be "ROOKIE CONTRACT"
I just don't appreciate being made a fool of because I read the rules properly.
Post #216...but I was a fool because URISS wasn't thinking down that path...and I was somehow wrong.
Post #216...but I was a fool because URISS wasn't thinking down that path...and I was somehow wrong.
The same place that it says the player MUST BE ELIGIBLE for the MAJOR LEAGUE (not Minor League) Rookie of the Year award.
I'm just saying...a minor leaguer can't be a MLB ROY...and that's the way I interpret it. I don't interpret it based on the fact that it's called a "prospect contract".
Does anyone else get fired up when they see this little shit. I don't know if it's just me...but it pisses me off when someone uses it. It's like saying, in a form of an emoticon, that you are a fucking moron and I am right. Am I the only one who gets this vibe?
The same place that it says the player MUST BE ELIGIBLE for the MAJOR LEAGUE (not Minor League) Rookie of the Year award.
I'm just saying...a minor leaguer can't be a MLB ROY...and that's the way I interpret it. I don't interpret it based on the fact that it's called a "prospect contract".
Does anyone else get fired up when they see this little shit. I don't know if it's just me...but it pisses me off when someone uses it. It's like saying, in a form of an emoticon, that you are a fucking moron and I am right. Am I the only one who gets this vibe?
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