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    Posted: Jun. 28, 2018 - 6:52 AM ET #351

    Quote Originally Posted by vanzack:

    Colombia -115 vs Senegal (4.1 to win 3.5) - predicted final score 3-1Poland PK +100 vs Japan (1.5 units to win 1.5) - predicted final score 1-0GL all

    Van, always appreciate your thoughts & value your input and angles. Hope you are doing well.  

    I'm surprised you are so heavily against Senegal - they have looked very good in my opinion and only need a draw to get through. Not saying they can park the bus and get a 0-0 scoreline but if they can keep it scoreless for long enough they could be dangerous on the counter if the game opens up. I actually see value on them outright. 

    Along those lines, also curious how in tune to the other game's scoreline teams are? If Poland is winning 3-0 does that mean Senegal doesn't push for the late equalizer? Depending on your answer, you may find value laying more goals with Colombia. 

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by vanzack:

    Colombia -115 vs Senegal (4.1 to win 3.5) - predicted final score 3-1Poland PK +100 vs Japan (1.5 units to win 1.5) - predicted final score 1-0GL all

    Van, always appreciate your thoughts & value your input and angles. Hope you are doing well.  

    I'm surprised you are so heavily against Senegal - they have looked very good in my opinion and only need a draw to get through. Not saying they can park the bus and get a 0-0 scoreline but if they can keep it scoreless for long enough they could be dangerous on the counter if the game opens up. I actually see value on them outright. 

    Along those lines, also curious how in tune to the other game's scoreline teams are? If Poland is winning 3-0 does that mean Senegal doesn't push for the late equalizer? Depending on your answer, you may find value laying more goals with Colombia. 

     

     
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    Posted: Jun. 28, 2018 - 8:12 AM ET #352

    Quote Originally Posted by arkadymo:

    Quote Originally Posted by vanzack:

    Colombia -115 vs Senegal (4.1 to win 3.5) - predicted final score 3-1Poland PK +100 vs Japan (1.5 units to win 1.5) - predicted final score 1-0GL all
    Van, always appreciate your thoughts & value your input and angles. Hope you are doing well.   I'm surprised you are so heavily against Senegal - they have looked very good in my opinion and only need a draw to get through. Not saying they can park the bus and get a 0-0 scoreline but if they can keep it scoreless for long enough they could be dangerous on the counter if the game opens up. I actually see value on them outright.  Along those lines, also curious how in tune to the other game's scoreline teams are? If Poland is winning 3-0 does that mean Senegal doesn't push for the late equalizer? Depending on your answer, you may find value laying more goals with Colombia.
    I initially picked COL and SEN to advance. But after the last match vs person I can see SEN  breaking down, losing a bit of composure and being out of position on the pitch. COL will cause fits for the SEN defense. I'm with Van on this one even the final score as Mané surely nets one.

     

    However for POL I'm on the other side and have been since December's draw. Not even sure how this team qualified let alone became FIFA ranked in the top 10. Fade #3 for me vs POL.

     

    Thanks for the insight as usual Van.

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by arkadymo:

    Quote Originally Posted by vanzack:

    Colombia -115 vs Senegal (4.1 to win 3.5) - predicted final score 3-1Poland PK +100 vs Japan (1.5 units to win 1.5) - predicted final score 1-0GL all
    Van, always appreciate your thoughts & value your input and angles. Hope you are doing well.   I'm surprised you are so heavily against Senegal - they have looked very good in my opinion and only need a draw to get through. Not saying they can park the bus and get a 0-0 scoreline but if they can keep it scoreless for long enough they could be dangerous on the counter if the game opens up. I actually see value on them outright.  Along those lines, also curious how in tune to the other game's scoreline teams are? If Poland is winning 3-0 does that mean Senegal doesn't push for the late equalizer? Depending on your answer, you may find value laying more goals with Colombia.
    I initially picked COL and SEN to advance. But after the last match vs person I can see SEN  breaking down, losing a bit of composure and being out of position on the pitch. COL will cause fits for the SEN defense. I'm with Van on this one even the final score as Mané surely nets one.

     

    However for POL I'm on the other side and have been since December's draw. Not even sure how this team qualified let alone became FIFA ranked in the top 10. Fade #3 for me vs POL.

     

    Thanks for the insight as usual Van.

     

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    Posted: Jun. 28, 2018 - 9:27 AM ET #353

    Quote Originally Posted by JOHNNY_ODAE:

    Quote Originally Posted by vanzack:

    Sweden play Switzerland in the next round.Most Americans will be very confused because they think this is the same country.
    Beer came thru my nose after reading this!!! Maybe it's a Canadian thing. World geography is learned by grade 7. Confusing the 2, priceless!!

    No....Canadians know the difference. See...we like hockey. Many good hockey players come from Sweden....mediocre ones come from Switzerland. It's a US thing.... I remember during WC qualifying a few years ago...it came down to the semifinals and the American media were confused...one reporter asked ' how can it be the semifinals, the US has to play two teams...Trinidad and Tobago....' 

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    Quote Originally Posted by JOHNNY_ODAE:

    Quote Originally Posted by vanzack:

    Sweden play Switzerland in the next round.Most Americans will be very confused because they think this is the same country.
    Beer came thru my nose after reading this!!! Maybe it's a Canadian thing. World geography is learned by grade 7. Confusing the 2, priceless!!

    No....Canadians know the difference. See...we like hockey. Many good hockey players come from Sweden....mediocre ones come from Switzerland. It's a US thing.... I remember during WC qualifying a few years ago...it came down to the semifinals and the American media were confused...one reporter asked ' how can it be the semifinals, the US has to play two teams...Trinidad and Tobago....' 

     
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    Posted: Jun. 28, 2018 - 9:56 AM ET #354

    Quote Originally Posted by vanzack:


    BB - not going to play monday morning QB here - but emotions and motivations are the hardest thing to predict IMO.  You can make an argument for any team in any situation.  Bounce back?  Or down and out?

    The "human factor" as you put it is totally intangible most of the time, and therefore way down on my list of things to consider when making a bet.

    You say that the Germany loss took something out of them, but what we saw today was a disciplined and organized and well drilled team executing a plan - void of the emotion you thought they would carry.  I understand your narrative, but emotions are just too unpredictable IMO.

    But to each his own.



    Vanz, thank you for responding. I was at work (I teach summer school) so did not see the games until later. I think you know that I am in no way, shape, or form a "hater," as someone may have claimed I was? I respect you and appreciate the analysis you offer everyone on this forum. For anyone who is a decent, compassionate person, it takes guts to give people gambling advice. In fact, I often feel so awful for giving out a losing pick that I will not hedge my bet, even when presented with the opportunity, choosing instead to go down with the people who trusted me with their money. I have done it many times. Perhaps it was stupid, but I also hope that it was also somehow admirable.

    Predicting human behavior is certainly a tricky business, as we saw today. The pressure of a deciding, winner-take-all-game finally forced Sweden to come out of its shell (this was certainly not the timid team we saw against Germany, hanging on for a tie by parking the car, even though they had a man advantage). They played like a pack of wolves, chasing their prey all over the field. And Germany played like a team (at least for the first 50 minutes) that had already gone through or qualified. In other words, it was they who had the letdown, after that draining win against Sweden, thinking, perhaps, that the worst was behind them. Of course you are right in that we never know exactly how a team will react to a loss or a win or a particular situation but that does not mean that it can't be done and/or there are no discernible psychological patterns. Hence the famous gambling terms and scenarios: "revenge game," "letdown spot," "star player out," etc, etc.

    I certainly can't say that I have made a living doing this as you have. But for two years I did win enough to pay my bills, buy groceries for myself and my family, etc...And I did it by betting on psychological angles for the most part (though there were obviously other factors as well). I resorted to capping and betting by using psychological angles and situations because I needed an edge. I do not have elaborate mathematical algorithms or data bases, nor can I dissect sports in terms of matchups, strategy, game plans, etc the way you can. I am a humanities guy (spending my days and nights reading, writing and thinking about human nature) who also loves sports. So I tried to combine my two passions by trying to predict the outcome of games/matches based on how human beings might react to a particular situation. Does it always work? Of course not. But if I did not win more often than I lost I would not be on here giving gambling advice to anybody.

    Congrats on the Sweden win! And I love the Columbia pick. I am very tempted to tail you but I cashed out today because this is too fun and I have a dissertation to finish. Best of luck as always.  

          
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    Quote Originally Posted by vanzack:


    BB - not going to play monday morning QB here - but emotions and motivations are the hardest thing to predict IMO.  You can make an argument for any team in any situation.  Bounce back?  Or down and out?

    The "human factor" as you put it is totally intangible most of the time, and therefore way down on my list of things to consider when making a bet.

    You say that the Germany loss took something out of them, but what we saw today was a disciplined and organized and well drilled team executing a plan - void of the emotion you thought they would carry.  I understand your narrative, but emotions are just too unpredictable IMO.

    But to each his own.



    Vanz, thank you for responding. I was at work (I teach summer school) so did not see the games until later. I think you know that I am in no way, shape, or form a "hater," as someone may have claimed I was? I respect you and appreciate the analysis you offer everyone on this forum. For anyone who is a decent, compassionate person, it takes guts to give people gambling advice. In fact, I often feel so awful for giving out a losing pick that I will not hedge my bet, even when presented with the opportunity, choosing instead to go down with the people who trusted me with their money. I have done it many times. Perhaps it was stupid, but I also hope that it was also somehow admirable.

    Predicting human behavior is certainly a tricky business, as we saw today. The pressure of a deciding, winner-take-all-game finally forced Sweden to come out of its shell (this was certainly not the timid team we saw against Germany, hanging on for a tie by parking the car, even though they had a man advantage). They played like a pack of wolves, chasing their prey all over the field. And Germany played like a team (at least for the first 50 minutes) that had already gone through or qualified. In other words, it was they who had the letdown, after that draining win against Sweden, thinking, perhaps, that the worst was behind them. Of course you are right in that we never know exactly how a team will react to a loss or a win or a particular situation but that does not mean that it can't be done and/or there are no discernible psychological patterns. Hence the famous gambling terms and scenarios: "revenge game," "letdown spot," "star player out," etc, etc.

    I certainly can't say that I have made a living doing this as you have. But for two years I did win enough to pay my bills, buy groceries for myself and my family, etc...And I did it by betting on psychological angles for the most part (though there were obviously other factors as well). I resorted to capping and betting by using psychological angles and situations because I needed an edge. I do not have elaborate mathematical algorithms or data bases, nor can I dissect sports in terms of matchups, strategy, game plans, etc the way you can. I am a humanities guy (spending my days and nights reading, writing and thinking about human nature) who also loves sports. So I tried to combine my two passions by trying to predict the outcome of games/matches based on how human beings might react to a particular situation. Does it always work? Of course not. But if I did not win more often than I lost I would not be on here giving gambling advice to anybody.

    Congrats on the Sweden win! And I love the Columbia pick. I am very tempted to tail you but I cashed out today because this is too fun and I have a dissertation to finish. Best of luck as always.  

          
     
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    Posted: Jun. 28, 2018 - 12:04 PM ET #356

    So lucky to win Colombia.  Finally won a game I didn't deserve to win, and on one of my biggest bets of the tournament.

    I also won a future on Senegal not to advance.

    Big day.

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    So lucky to win Colombia.  Finally won a game I didn't deserve to win, and on one of my biggest bets of the tournament.

    I also won a future on Senegal not to advance.

    Big day.

     
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    Posted: Jun. 28, 2018 - 12:09 PM ET #357

    Odd of Belgium vs England is 3,40+ and rising...
    The leader of the group will play against japan, vice leader Colombia. And in key 1 in quarters of finals will face Brazil (or Mexico), and key 2 Sweden or Switzerland

    Is good put money on Belgium? I like it

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    Odd of Belgium vs England is 3,40+ and rising...
    The leader of the group will play against japan, vice leader Colombia. And in key 1 in quarters of finals will face Brazil (or Mexico), and key 2 Sweden or Switzerland

    Is good put money on Belgium? I like it

     
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    Posted: Jun. 28, 2018 - 12:13 PM ET #358

    Updating Futures....  Everything is in except Spain to win.

    Future Bets:
    Up 3.17  Down 1.7
    Uruguay to win group A -130 (risk 1.3 units to win 1 unit) - WIN
    Russia to advance group A – no - +235 (risk .2 unit to win .47 unit) - LOSS
    Morocco to advance group B +325 (risk .5 unit to win 1.625 units) - LOSS
    Denmark win group C +500 (risk .5 unit to win 2.5 units) - LOSS
    Croatia win group D +240 (.2 unit to win .48) - WIN
    Sweden to advance Group F +130 (.3 unit to win .39) - WIN
    Korea Republic advance NO group F -525 (1.625 to win .3) - WIN
    Senegal to advance NO group G -140 (.7 to win .5) - WIN
    Win WC Spain +630 (.3 units to win 1.89) - OPEN
    Portugal under 5.5 points Group B -125 (.625 to win .5) - WIN
    Serbia over 3 points -115 (.575 to win .5) - PUSH
    Senegal under 3.5 points +110 (.5 to win .6) - LOSS
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    Updating Futures....  Everything is in except Spain to win.

    Future Bets:
    Up 3.17  Down 1.7
    Uruguay to win group A -130 (risk 1.3 units to win 1 unit) - WIN
    Russia to advance group A – no - +235 (risk .2 unit to win .47 unit) - LOSS
    Morocco to advance group B +325 (risk .5 unit to win 1.625 units) - LOSS
    Denmark win group C +500 (risk .5 unit to win 2.5 units) - LOSS
    Croatia win group D +240 (.2 unit to win .48) - WIN
    Sweden to advance Group F +130 (.3 unit to win .39) - WIN
    Korea Republic advance NO group F -525 (1.625 to win .3) - WIN
    Senegal to advance NO group G -140 (.7 to win .5) - WIN
    Win WC Spain +630 (.3 units to win 1.89) - OPEN
    Portugal under 5.5 points Group B -125 (.625 to win .5) - WIN
    Serbia over 3 points -115 (.575 to win .5) - PUSH
    Senegal under 3.5 points +110 (.5 to win .6) - LOSS
     
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    Posted: Jun. 28, 2018 - 12:14 PM ET #359

    thanks V for your analysis!!

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    thanks V for your analysis!!

     
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    Posted: Jun. 28, 2018 - 12:14 PM ET #360

    Quote Originally Posted by addison511:

    Van, what do you think about the over in Colombia Senegal of 2.5, guessing you might like the over given your predicted final score? seems like both teams will be trying hard to win although Senegal just needs a tie? 


    I did like the over.  I didn't have a chance to respond and hopefully that means you didn't bet it, but I expected a more open game than we got.
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    Van, what do you think about the over in Colombia Senegal of 2.5, guessing you might like the over given your predicted final score? seems like both teams will be trying hard to win although Senegal just needs a tie? 


    I did like the over.  I didn't have a chance to respond and hopefully that means you didn't bet it, but I expected a more open game than we got.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by DoubleUp4Life:

    Love reading your thoughts ...

    I expect England v Belgium to be weird ..lol...Woukd not bet on this with free play money....losing seems to be the best option ?

    BEST OF LUCK BROTHER 


    It is still strange.  Winner gets Colombia instead of Japan, but then gets placed on the tough side of the draw.  Not sure here.
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    Love reading your thoughts ...

    I expect England v Belgium to be weird ..lol...Woukd not bet on this with free play money....losing seems to be the best option ?

    BEST OF LUCK BROTHER 


    It is still strange.  Winner gets Colombia instead of Japan, but then gets placed on the tough side of the draw.  Not sure here.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by arkadymo:

    Van, always appreciate your thoughts & value your input and angles. Hope you are doing well.  

    I'm surprised you are so heavily against Senegal - they have looked very good in my opinion and only need a draw to get through. Not saying they can park the bus and get a 0-0 scoreline but if they can keep it scoreless for long enough they could be dangerous on the counter if the game opens up. I actually see value on them outright. 

    Along those lines, also curious how in tune to the other game's scoreline teams are? If Poland is winning 3-0 does that mean Senegal doesn't push for the late equalizer? Depending on your answer, you may find value laying more goals with Colombia. 

     


    Well, I think you were right with Senegal.  They were much better organized than I thought.  But their downfall is unfortunately common historically with African sides - they have defensive lapses that cost them.

    88 minutes of great defense isn't good enough if you play 2 horrible minutes.

    Senegal deserved more than they got.

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    Van, always appreciate your thoughts & value your input and angles. Hope you are doing well.  

    I'm surprised you are so heavily against Senegal - they have looked very good in my opinion and only need a draw to get through. Not saying they can park the bus and get a 0-0 scoreline but if they can keep it scoreless for long enough they could be dangerous on the counter if the game opens up. I actually see value on them outright. 

    Along those lines, also curious how in tune to the other game's scoreline teams are? If Poland is winning 3-0 does that mean Senegal doesn't push for the late equalizer? Depending on your answer, you may find value laying more goals with Colombia. 

     


    Well, I think you were right with Senegal.  They were much better organized than I thought.  But their downfall is unfortunately common historically with African sides - they have defensive lapses that cost them.

    88 minutes of great defense isn't good enough if you play 2 horrible minutes.

    Senegal deserved more than they got.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by vanzack:

    So lucky to win Colombia.  Finally won a game I didn't deserve to win, and on one of my biggest bets of the tournament.I also won a future on Senegal not to advance.Big day.
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    So lucky to win Colombia.  Finally won a game I didn't deserve to win, and on one of my biggest bets of the tournament.I also won a future on Senegal not to advance.Big day.
    THANK, THANK, Thank ,,,vanzack,, 

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by barneybeans:

    Van, always appreciate your thoughts & value your input and angles. Hope you are doing well.   I'm surprised you are so heavily against Senegal - they have looked very good in my opinion and only need a draw to get through. Not saying they can park the bus and get a 0-0 scoreline but if they can keep it scoreless for long enough they could be dangerous on the counter if the game opens up. I actually see value on them outright.  Along those lines, also curious how in tune to the other game's scoreline teams are? If Poland is winning 3-0 does that mean Senegal doesn't push for the late equalizer? Depending on your answer, you may find value laying more goals with Colombia.I initially picked COL and SEN to advance. But after the last match vs person I can see SEN  breaking down, losing a bit of composure and being out of position on the pitch. COL will cause fits for the SEN defense. I'm with Van on this one even the final score as Mané surely nets one.

     

    However for POL I'm on the other side and have been since December's draw. Not even sure how this team qualified let alone became FIFA ranked in the top 10. Fade #3 for me vs POL.

     

    Thanks for the insight as usual Van.

     

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    Poland were garbage, but a little less garbage than Japan.

    Japan is advancing because of a 3rd minute red card and less yellow cards than Senegal.

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    Van, always appreciate your thoughts & value your input and angles. Hope you are doing well.   I'm surprised you are so heavily against Senegal - they have looked very good in my opinion and only need a draw to get through. Not saying they can park the bus and get a 0-0 scoreline but if they can keep it scoreless for long enough they could be dangerous on the counter if the game opens up. I actually see value on them outright.  Along those lines, also curious how in tune to the other game's scoreline teams are? If Poland is winning 3-0 does that mean Senegal doesn't push for the late equalizer? Depending on your answer, you may find value laying more goals with Colombia.I initially picked COL and SEN to advance. But after the last match vs person I can see SEN  breaking down, losing a bit of composure and being out of position on the pitch. COL will cause fits for the SEN defense. I'm with Van on this one even the final score as Mané surely nets one.

     

    However for POL I'm on the other side and have been since December's draw. Not even sure how this team qualified let alone became FIFA ranked in the top 10. Fade #3 for me vs POL.

     

    Thanks for the insight as usual Van.

     

    GLTA soccerball


    Poland were garbage, but a little less garbage than Japan.

    Japan is advancing because of a 3rd minute red card and less yellow cards than Senegal.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by vanzack:


    Poland were garbage, but a little less garbage than Japan.

    Japan is advancing because of a 3rd minute red card and less yellow cards than Senegal.


    I personally will be looking at either Belgium or England to lay the wood against them in Rd16  Price depending of course but I would imagine you are in the same boat?
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    Poland were garbage, but a little less garbage than Japan.

    Japan is advancing because of a 3rd minute red card and less yellow cards than Senegal.


    I personally will be looking at either Belgium or England to lay the wood against them in Rd16  Price depending of course but I would imagine you are in the same boat?
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by begginerboy:



    Vanz, thank you for responding. I was at work (I teach summer school) so did not see the games until later. I think you know that I am in no way, shape, or form a "hater," as someone may have claimed I was? I respect you and appreciate the analysis you offer everyone on this forum. For anyone who is a decent, compassionate person, it takes guts to give people gambling advice. In fact, I often feel so awful for giving out a losing pick that I will not hedge my bet, even when presented with the opportunity, choosing instead to go down with the people who trusted me with their money. I have done it many times. Perhaps it was stupid, but I also hope that it was also somehow admirable.

    Predicting human behavior is certainly a tricky business, as we saw today. The pressure of a deciding, winner-take-all-game finally forced Sweden to come out of its shell (this was certainly not the timid team we saw against Germany, hanging on for a tie by parking the car, even though they had a man advantage). They played like a pack of wolves, chasing their prey all over the field. And Germany played like a team (at least for the first 50 minutes) that had already gone through or qualified. In other words, it was they who had the letdown, after that draining win against Sweden, thinking, perhaps, that the worst was behind them. Of course you are right in that we never know exactly how a team will react to a loss or a win or a particular situation but that does not mean that it can't be done and/or there are no discernible psychological patterns. Hence the famous gambling terms and scenarios: "revenge game," "letdown spot," "star player out," etc, etc.

    I certainly can't say that I have made a living doing this as you have. But for two years I did win enough to pay my bills, buy groceries for myself and my family, etc...And I did it by betting on psychological angles for the most part (though there were obviously other factors as well). I resorted to capping and betting by using psychological angles and situations because I needed an edge. I do not have elaborate mathematical algorithms or data bases, nor can I dissect sports in terms of matchups, strategy, game plans, etc the way you can. I am a humanities guy (spending my days and nights reading, writing and thinking about human nature) who also loves sports. So I tried to combine my two passions by trying to predict the outcome of games/matches based on how human beings might react to a particular situation. Does it always work? Of course not. But if I did not win more often than I lost I would not be on here giving gambling advice to anybody.

    Congrats on the Sweden win! And I love the Columbia pick. I am very tempted to tail you but I cashed out today because this is too fun and I have a dissertation to finish. Best of luck as always.  

          

    I feel exactly what you are saying.  There are times I am more worried about my stupid covers pick losing than when I am personally losing thousands.  So I get it - and TBH - that is a lot of the reason I don't post.  It is a no win situation most of the time.

    My post to you earlier was not to knock your method in any way.  I have always been a whatever works type of person when it comes to gambling.  And if it has been working for you - keep at it.

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    Vanz, thank you for responding. I was at work (I teach summer school) so did not see the games until later. I think you know that I am in no way, shape, or form a "hater," as someone may have claimed I was? I respect you and appreciate the analysis you offer everyone on this forum. For anyone who is a decent, compassionate person, it takes guts to give people gambling advice. In fact, I often feel so awful for giving out a losing pick that I will not hedge my bet, even when presented with the opportunity, choosing instead to go down with the people who trusted me with their money. I have done it many times. Perhaps it was stupid, but I also hope that it was also somehow admirable.

    Predicting human behavior is certainly a tricky business, as we saw today. The pressure of a deciding, winner-take-all-game finally forced Sweden to come out of its shell (this was certainly not the timid team we saw against Germany, hanging on for a tie by parking the car, even though they had a man advantage). They played like a pack of wolves, chasing their prey all over the field. And Germany played like a team (at least for the first 50 minutes) that had already gone through or qualified. In other words, it was they who had the letdown, after that draining win against Sweden, thinking, perhaps, that the worst was behind them. Of course you are right in that we never know exactly how a team will react to a loss or a win or a particular situation but that does not mean that it can't be done and/or there are no discernible psychological patterns. Hence the famous gambling terms and scenarios: "revenge game," "letdown spot," "star player out," etc, etc.

    I certainly can't say that I have made a living doing this as you have. But for two years I did win enough to pay my bills, buy groceries for myself and my family, etc...And I did it by betting on psychological angles for the most part (though there were obviously other factors as well). I resorted to capping and betting by using psychological angles and situations because I needed an edge. I do not have elaborate mathematical algorithms or data bases, nor can I dissect sports in terms of matchups, strategy, game plans, etc the way you can. I am a humanities guy (spending my days and nights reading, writing and thinking about human nature) who also loves sports. So I tried to combine my two passions by trying to predict the outcome of games/matches based on how human beings might react to a particular situation. Does it always work? Of course not. But if I did not win more often than I lost I would not be on here giving gambling advice to anybody.

    Congrats on the Sweden win! And I love the Columbia pick. I am very tempted to tail you but I cashed out today because this is too fun and I have a dissertation to finish. Best of luck as always.  

          

    I feel exactly what you are saying.  There are times I am more worried about my stupid covers pick losing than when I am personally losing thousands.  So I get it - and TBH - that is a lot of the reason I don't post.  It is a no win situation most of the time.

    My post to you earlier was not to knock your method in any way.  I have always been a whatever works type of person when it comes to gambling.  And if it has been working for you - keep at it.

    GL with the dissertation.  Much more important than this sh*t.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by vanzack:


    I feel exactly what you are saying.  There are times I am more worried about my stupid covers pick losing than when I am personally losing thousands.  So I get it - and TBH - that is a lot of the reason I don't post.  It is a no win situation most of the time.

    My post to you earlier was not to knock your method in any way.  I have always been a whatever works type of person when it comes to gambling.  And if it has been working for you - keep at it.

    GL with the dissertation.  Much more important than this sh*t.



    It is weird. Isn't it?

    Good luck to the rest of the WC

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    I feel exactly what you are saying.  There are times I am more worried about my stupid covers pick losing than when I am personally losing thousands.  So I get it - and TBH - that is a lot of the reason I don't post.  It is a no win situation most of the time.

    My post to you earlier was not to knock your method in any way.  I have always been a whatever works type of person when it comes to gambling.  And if it has been working for you - keep at it.

    GL with the dissertation.  Much more important than this sh*t.



    It is weird. Isn't it?

    Good luck to the rest of the WC

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by LucasPortela:

    Odd of Belgium vs England is 3,40+ and rising...
    The leader of the group will play against japan, vice leader Colombia. And in key 1 in quarters of finals will face Brazil (or Mexico), and key 2 Sweden or Switzerland

    Is good put money on Belgium? I like it


    I see the line move towards England.

    I will wait until lineups are announced, probably in about 10 minutes or so - but it will be a very small bet if anything for me.  Most likely going to skip it.


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    Odd of Belgium vs England is 3,40+ and rising...
    The leader of the group will play against japan, vice leader Colombia. And in key 1 in quarters of finals will face Brazil (or Mexico), and key 2 Sweden or Switzerland

    Is good put money on Belgium? I like it


    I see the line move towards England.

    I will wait until lineups are announced, probably in about 10 minutes or so - but it will be a very small bet if anything for me.  Most likely going to skip it.


     
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    Quote Originally Posted by freestlyin:


    I personally will be looking at either Belgium or England to lay the wood against them in Rd16  Price depending of course but I would imagine you are in the same boat?

    I think I will be much more enthusiastic to bet against England than Belgium.  But both are overrated right now.  

    But prices, spots, and opposition will determine.

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    I personally will be looking at either Belgium or England to lay the wood against them in Rd16  Price depending of course but I would imagine you are in the same boat?

    I think I will be much more enthusiastic to bet against England than Belgium.  But both are overrated right now.  

    But prices, spots, and opposition will determine.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by vanzack:


    I think I will be much more enthusiastic to bet against England than Belgium.  But both are overrated right now.  

    But prices, spots, and opposition will determine.


    I was referring to backing whichever side ends up against Japan...what I have seen from Japan has not impressed me at all personally.

    I completely agree that both England and Belgium are being inflated at the moment and are perhaps even playing above their normal ability and skill level. Both will come back to earth in the KO stage and I agree with fading England over Belgium
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    I think I will be much more enthusiastic to bet against England than Belgium.  But both are overrated right now.  

    But prices, spots, and opposition will determine.


    I was referring to backing whichever side ends up against Japan...what I have seen from Japan has not impressed me at all personally.

    I completely agree that both England and Belgium are being inflated at the moment and are perhaps even playing above their normal ability and skill level. Both will come back to earth in the KO stage and I agree with fading England over Belgium
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by freestlyin:


    I was referring to backing whichever side ends up against Japan...what I have seen from Japan has not impressed me at all personally.

    I completely agree that both England and Belgium are being inflated at the moment and are perhaps even playing above their normal ability and skill level. Both will come back to earth in the KO stage and I agree with fading England over Belgium

    Ahh....  Got ya.

    Either Belgium or England will deservedly be a big favorite against Japan.  And if England win the group today, they will beat Japan handily - and then they will face Brazil.

    And that might be a very interesting spot.
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    I was referring to backing whichever side ends up against Japan...what I have seen from Japan has not impressed me at all personally.

    I completely agree that both England and Belgium are being inflated at the moment and are perhaps even playing above their normal ability and skill level. Both will come back to earth in the KO stage and I agree with fading England over Belgium

    Ahh....  Got ya.

    Either Belgium or England will deservedly be a big favorite against Japan.  And if England win the group today, they will beat Japan handily - and then they will face Brazil.

    And that might be a very interesting spot.
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