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Quote Originally Posted by GetPaid25:

you fail. Calorie is calorie, all it matters is if you meet your macro for the day. Yes, you can eat WHATEVER as long as your under your daily macro for that day. and there has been studies eating 6-7 meals a day doesn't speed up your metabolism

Completely false.

So you're saying I can meet my daily macro of 2,500 to 3,000 calories at 11PM before sleeping? What if the entire meal is a bowl of guacamole dip?

Most people cannot and will not function effectively with the 'daily macro' model of eating even if they space out their meals to three a day (which virtually everyone does and just look outside to see the kind of shape people are in).

Because it is inefficient for people trying to lose weight, the two-hour meal model is MUCH more beneficial and it most certainly DOES stimulate your metabolism.
 
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Completely false.

So you're saying I can meet my daily macro of 2,500 to 3,000 calories at 11PM before sleeping? What if the entire meal is a bowl of guacamole dip?

Most people cannot and will not function effectively with the 'daily macro' model of eating even if they space out their meals to three a day (which virtually everyone does and just look outside to see the kind of shape people are in).

Because it is inefficient for people trying to lose weight, the two-hour meal model is MUCH more beneficial and it most certainly DOES stimulate your metabolism.
doesnt matter what time you eat as long as u meet your macro. Theres MANY bodybuilders, cutting up or bulking that eat at random times and it does not affect them. and there's been studies by smarter people then me and you that proved eating 6-7 meals a day stimulate metabolism. Please stop with your broscience
 
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this is really a food & fitness forum thread...

alot of good info there... although you see some of the respect posters there posting on this thread...
 
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Quote Originally Posted by GetPaid25:

doesnt matter what time you eat as long as u meet your macro. Theres MANY bodybuilders, cutting up or bulking that eat at random times and it does not affect them. and there's been studies by smarter people then me and you that proved eating 6-7 meals a day stimulate metabolism. Please stop with your broscience

OP, just dismiss this guy. He's misleading people and doesn't understand much, if anything, about fitness and nutrition.

Two hour meals of quality calories and you'll be on the right track. If it doesn't work, post it right in this thread as a rebuttal to the advice.
 
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I think people need to start citing sources before simply bashing each other...
 
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Quote Originally Posted by scalabrine:


You give good advice but you have it a little mixed up here.

It's the quality of calories (which you said) and when you consume them (which you disagree with). 

The when most certainly will not take care of itself, especially in an era of 7-7 working world (with commute) and long stretches throughout the day in which college and high school students do not eat because they are in class/lab. Add the additional everyday responsibilities (i.e. kids, girlfriends, laundry etc.)  and you'll find yourself gorging when you have a chance to grab a meal.

Eating small portions every two/three hours is a time-tested dietary schedule that has yielded desired results for millions who attempted to get in shape. 

It curbs hunger, puts your body on a schedule, helps avoid binge-eating, and also stimulates your metabolism. 

If you go long stretches without this schedule, your body will eventually go into starvation mode and conserve all the fat you are intending to burn (with the intention of eventually consuming it at a much later time which doesn't help in a modern world with plenty to eat at all times for many).  

i don't disagree with that.  i would definitely avoid going long periods of time without eating because it is far from the optimal way of eatng.  

my point, which i probably oversimplified, was that the idea that you just eat several small portions of whatever throughout the day is a good idea without an emphasis on what you are eating.  a better way to say it would be to eat quality calories whenever you are hungry which should be throughout the day and the exact timing shouldn't become a major issue.  

i don't doubt that eating quality calories every 2-3 hours is a good way to do it.  i prefer to just eat when i'm hungry, which turns out to be about the same thing and since i try to eat quality calories, it keeps me full and prevents me from eating a lot at any given time.  keeping nuts around helps because there's only so many of those you can eat before getting full (as opposed to a high carb snack) 


 
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Quote Originally Posted by boberts427:

how bad is diet soda? w/o it i think i would be 50lbs more

there's no reason to drink it if fitness/optimal performance is your goal.  a good rule of thumb, whether it is a diet soda or any food- read the ingredients.  if you read one or two things and don't know what the hell it is, don't eat/drink it.  it probably wasn't meant to go in your body.  water, tea, cocnonut water and even real fruit juice (although definitely limit this because of the sugar content), those are the things your body wants you to drink.    there's nothing your body wants to use in a diet soda.  
 
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That's fine but most people don't have a chance to eat when they are hungry because their environment/occupation limits them. That's why you need a schedule with pre-prepared meals.
 
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for anyone who can carry around a snack, here'a couple that are pretty good

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Quote Originally Posted by scalabrine:


OP, just dismiss this guy. He's misleading people and doesn't understand much, if anything, about fitness and nutrition.

Two hour meals of quality calories and you'll be on the right track. If it doesn't work, post it right in this thread as a rebuttal to the advice.
 dont know why im arguing with you but explain this to me. link if you say eat "quality" calories, how come this guy lost weight eating what he ate. calorie in = calorie out.
 
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Quote Originally Posted by GetPaid25:

 dont know why im arguing with you but explain this to me. link if you say eat "quality" calories, how come this guy lost weight eating what he ate. calorie in = calorie out.

i didn't read the entire article.  over what period of time did he do this experiment?  
 
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i didn't read the entire article.  over what period of time did he do this experiment?  
10 weeks. It does not matter what you eat because calorie is calorie. There is no such thing as good calorie and bad calorie. As long as you meet your macro for the day, your good. Ignore that ginger up there, he dont know shit about nutritions.
 
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Quote Originally Posted by GetPaid25:

10 weeks. It does not matter what you eat because calorie is calorie. There is no such thing as good calorie and bad calorie. As long as you meet your macro for the day, your good. Ignore that ginger up there, he dont know shit about nutritions.

sorry dude, i agree with the ginger.  

i dont believe all calories are created equally.  i think our bodies have evolved over many years to perform optimally on a certain diet that largely includes proteins and fats, not carbs, sugars and manufactured foods that were not around for the overwhelming majority of our existence.

as for the example in the article, i do think an abrupt adjustment in one's diet that reduces calories from the norm will result in weight loss over the short term.  however, i think if that guy kept that diet going for a considerable period of time, he would gain that weight back and have some other issues over time.  

i think if you read about your body's insulin response to a high carb/sugar diet, it's hard to reach the conclusion that x calories of twinkies are the same as x calories of a salad with an egg, sliced almonds, vegetables and avocados.  
 
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Quote Originally Posted by ClubDirt:


sorry dude, i agree with the ginger.  

i dont believe all calories are created equally.  i think our bodies have evolved over many years to perform optimally on a certain diet that largely includes proteins and fats, not carbs, sugars and manufactured foods that were not around for the overwhelming majority of our existence.

as for the example in the article, i do think an abrupt adjustment in one's diet that reduces calories from the norm will result in weight loss over the short term.  however, i think if that guy kept that diet going for a considerable period of time, he would gain that weight back and have some other issues over time.  

i think if you read about your body's insulin response to a high carb/sugar diet, it's hard to reach the conclusion that x calories of twinkies are the same as x calories of a salad with an egg, sliced almonds, vegetables and avocados.  
u know you can gain weight eating the healthiest food out there if you eat above your body maintenance? and no, that guy would not gain weight if he kept doing that cuz his eating under his maintenance 
 
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What would be an ideal calorie intake for me to tone and lose weight? (6'2" 195) Also what are some of the good fruits and vegtables and what are some bad ones? Thanks for all the good info guy.
 
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Quote Originally Posted by GetPaid25:

u know you can gain weight eating the healthiest food out there if you eat above your body maintenance? and no, that guy would not gain weight if he kept doing that cuz his eating under his maintenance 

it depends on what you mean by the healthiest foods.  i suppose you can gain weight by eating the healthiest foods, as i understand them, but it would be difficult.  the idea of eating the right foods is you are eating what your body wants and needs.  those foods will fill you up, unlike a bag of baked potato chips or twinkies like that guy.  if you are eating quality calroies in the amounts your body needs and uses, there shouldn't be any reason to eat more unless you have an eating disorder.

if you are eating crap and trying to stop at some artificially set number of calories, that's not sustainable. 

summer, fruit can be high in carbs which isn't ideal but fruit is still better than most foods that are high in carbs.  in other words, if you are going to eat carbs, fruits are better than a lot of carbs because they offer other benefits. 

that being said, i'd say just about any vegetable is good.  as for fruits, these are some of the better ones- all berries, apricots, grapefruit, kiwi, pruines, dates, guava. 

these are some of the ones you'd want to eat less of: bananas, pears, grapes, watermelon, mango, i.e. the sweeter ones.

i eat all fruit but if you really wanted a strict diet, some are better than others.

 
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Is Mcdonalds after working out healthy?
 
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GetPaid, don't bother arguing with that stupid fuck. He has zero clue what the fuck he is talking about.
 
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Quote Originally Posted by RickeM:

GetPaid, don't bother arguing with that stupid fuck. He has zero clue what the fuck he is talking about.

Hey, its the know nothing himself!!

 
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Quote Originally Posted by GetPaid25:

 dont know why im arguing with you but explain this to me. link if you say eat "quality" calories, how come this guy lost weight eating what he ate. calorie in = calorie out.


Not exactly.  You eat a lot of calories late at night -- well guess what, your metabolic rate slows down at night.  You are not breaking down the carbs and fats as much and well that stiff that is not broken down has to go somewhere.

Better to avoid eating later on at night.  That way you begin to break down the carbs during your evening activities and then continue to break down carbs / switch to breaking down fats (for your energy source) at night.

I tried to give this in lay terms.  let me know if you want more of the physiology

 
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Quote Originally Posted by GetPaid25:

10 weeks. It does not matter what you eat because calorie is calorie. There is no such thing as good calorie and bad calorie. As long as you meet your macro for the day, your good. Ignore that ginger up there, he dont know shit about nutritions.


Sorry but a calorie is not a calorie -- at least not in the way your body handles it.  Please do not tell people this is the case.
 
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Quote Originally Posted by GetPaid25:

u know you can gain weight eating the healthiest food out there if you eat above your body maintenance? and no, that guy would not gain weight if he kept doing that cuz his eating under his maintenance 


STOP POSTING.  YOUR INFO IS PHYSIOLOGICALLY INCORRECT.  STOP NOW.

Of course you can gain weight eating the healthiest food.  But as clubdirt stated  200 calories of twinkies are not the same as 200 calories of carrots.  There is more to cardiovascular health than calories.  Ask any diabetic and see what he / she says.
 
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take 'em to school, mattbrot  
 
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For over 3 yrs now i've been:

- cutting down on bad carbs,
- eating plenty fruits & vegetables,
- doing a lot of cardio,
- playing basketball several times a week and
- lifting weights.

whiles doing that i've been:

- having no carbs after 7pm
- consuming 0% whey protein
- taking creatine


Results have been great:

- lost weight
- gotten fitter
- got more cut (creatine helped me in getting even more cut)
- lost fat around the belly

Now, mine was a long term goal so it took quite a while for me to achieve this but that was my goal. To tweek my routine in order to shed even more belly fat in less time what i would change is:

- NO CARBS AFTER 1pm
- NO BOOZE!!!!!
- Up my cardio work out exercise targetting my abs (sits ups)


I was the cat who made that post a long time ago that recieved over 5 pages of replies about how to lose a beer gut:

https://www.covers.com/postingforum/post01/showmessage.aspx?spt=218&sub=100238811

I do stray away from being disciplined which is why results have been slower than what it should be so Discipline must also be your priority.
 
 
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- consuming 0% carb whey protein
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