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    Posted: Feb. 8, 2012 - 12:10 PM ET #26

    1 ounce of refried beans from El Pollo Loco.............. 700 milligrams

    1 ounce?.... who only eats 1 ounce of refried beans?

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    1 ounce of refried beans from El Pollo Loco.............. 700 milligrams

    1 ounce?.... who only eats 1 ounce of refried beans?

     
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    Posted: Feb. 8, 2012 - 12:12 PM ET #27

    Bacon............ around 300 per slice.

    ONE SLICE OF BACON??????

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    Bacon............ around 300 per slice.

    ONE SLICE OF BACON??????

     
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    Posted: Feb. 8, 2012 - 12:14 PM ET #28

    Finally some good news............. couple ounces of cooked pork chop, pork shoulder only around 100 milligrams.

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    Finally some good news............. couple ounces of cooked pork chop, pork shoulder only around 100 milligrams.

     
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    Posted: Feb. 8, 2012 - 12:22 PM ET #29

    Browned Hamburger Meat 15% fat....... only around 20 milligrams per ounce.

    WTF are these fast food restaurants doing to the burgers man?

    Really... how do you go from 80 milligrams to over 1000?

    HOW?

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    Browned Hamburger Meat 15% fat....... only around 20 milligrams per ounce.

    WTF are these fast food restaurants doing to the burgers man?

    Really... how do you go from 80 milligrams to over 1000?

    HOW?

     
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    Posted: Feb. 8, 2012 - 12:30 PM ET #30

    I'll Dare anybody here to come under 2,400 milligrams of sodium a day for a week.

    Actually be shocked if anybody could do it for two days in a row.

    Can eat all the steak you want but can't drive through anywhere for a snack.

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    I'll Dare anybody here to come under 2,400 milligrams of sodium a day for a week.

    Actually be shocked if anybody could do it for two days in a row.

    Can eat all the steak you want but can't drive through anywhere for a snack.

     
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    Posted: Feb. 8, 2012 - 12:57 PM ET #31

    The analysis of data is from more than 167 studies of people with normal or high blood pressure. These people were randomly assigned to eat either low- or high-sodium diets. The study found that consuming less than 2,800 milligrams of sodium a day helped lower blood pressure though the reductions were very small.  The reductions were only an average of 1% for people who had normal blood pressure to begin with and 3.5% for people with high blood pressure. For example, if your BP is 140/90 then reducing salt will only bring it down to 138/89 which is insignificant and meaningless.  Another issue with the lower sodium diet is that it increased triglycerides by 7%, which is a unhealthy blood fat and when elevated increases risk of heart disease,  when compared with the people who were eating more than 3450mg of sodium which is about what the average American eats in a day.   
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    The analysis of data is from more than 167 studies of people with normal or high blood pressure. These people were randomly assigned to eat either low- or high-sodium diets. The study found that consuming less than 2,800 milligrams of sodium a day helped lower blood pressure though the reductions were very small.  The reductions were only an average of 1% for people who had normal blood pressure to begin with and 3.5% for people with high blood pressure. For example, if your BP is 140/90 then reducing salt will only bring it down to 138/89 which is insignificant and meaningless.  Another issue with the lower sodium diet is that it increased triglycerides by 7%, which is a unhealthy blood fat and when elevated increases risk of heart disease,  when compared with the people who were eating more than 3450mg of sodium which is about what the average American eats in a day.   
     
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    Posted: Feb. 8, 2012 - 1:33 PM ET #32

    Quote Originally Posted by sharpaction:

    The analysis of data is from more than 167 studies of people with normal or high blood pressure. These people were randomly assigned to eat either low- or high-sodium diets. The study found that consuming less than 2,800 milligrams of sodium a day helped lower blood pressure though the reductions were very small.  The reductions were only an average of 1% for people who had normal blood pressure to begin with and 3.5% for people with high blood pressure. For example, if your BP is 140/90 then reducing salt will only bring it down to 138/89 which is insignificant and meaningless.  Another issue with the lower sodium diet is that it increased triglycerides by 7%, which is a unhealthy blood fat and when elevated increases risk of heart disease,  when compared with the people who were eating more than 3450mg of sodium which is about what the average American eats in a day.   

    Good info

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    Quote Originally Posted by sharpaction:

    The analysis of data is from more than 167 studies of people with normal or high blood pressure. These people were randomly assigned to eat either low- or high-sodium diets. The study found that consuming less than 2,800 milligrams of sodium a day helped lower blood pressure though the reductions were very small.  The reductions were only an average of 1% for people who had normal blood pressure to begin with and 3.5% for people with high blood pressure. For example, if your BP is 140/90 then reducing salt will only bring it down to 138/89 which is insignificant and meaningless.  Another issue with the lower sodium diet is that it increased triglycerides by 7%, which is a unhealthy blood fat and when elevated increases risk of heart disease,  when compared with the people who were eating more than 3450mg of sodium which is about what the average American eats in a day.   

    Good info

     
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    Posted: Feb. 8, 2012 - 1:38 PM ET #33

    Here is an article just stumbled on........ fairly interesting

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    That article says we have a 100 grams of sodium in our bodies on average.

    Another interesting thing it says is that 5 grams of "salt" only equals 2 grams of "sodium" so don't have to freak at the salt shaker.

    My question would be...... if add an extra 2 grams of sodium and the body has 102 grams instead of 100...... Can't imagine that being too big a deal.

    In terms of the increase in blood pressure.  My next question would be simple math and hydraulics.  Assuming an average of 10 pints of blood in the body.  Can't imagine the aborption impact of 2 grams of salt to be that big of a factor? 

     

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    Here is an article just stumbled on........ fairly interesting

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    That article says we have a 100 grams of sodium in our bodies on average.

    Another interesting thing it says is that 5 grams of "salt" only equals 2 grams of "sodium" so don't have to freak at the salt shaker.

    My question would be...... if add an extra 2 grams of sodium and the body has 102 grams instead of 100...... Can't imagine that being too big a deal.

    In terms of the increase in blood pressure.  My next question would be simple math and hydraulics.  Assuming an average of 10 pints of blood in the body.  Can't imagine the aborption impact of 2 grams of salt to be that big of a factor? 

     

     
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    Posted: Feb. 8, 2012 - 1:40 PM ET #34

    It appears that it is univerally accepted that the ratio of potassium to sodium is important.

    It's actually not real easy to get high quantities of potassium in the diet tho.  Bananas are not enough.  One banana is only 10% of RDA potassium and if in the summer need lots more.

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    It appears that it is univerally accepted that the ratio of potassium to sodium is important.

    It's actually not real easy to get high quantities of potassium in the diet tho.  Bananas are not enough.  One banana is only 10% of RDA potassium and if in the summer need lots more.

     
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    Posted: Feb. 8, 2012 - 1:44 PM ET #35

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    Posted: Feb. 8, 2012 - 2:00 PM ET #36

    Green Olives 600-700 milligrams per ounce

    I think the black ones are less.

    Olives and cheese one of my favorite foods.... and for sho snackwise.

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    Green Olives 600-700 milligrams per ounce

    I think the black ones are less.

    Olives and cheese one of my favorite foods.... and for sho snackwise.

     
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    Posted: Feb. 8, 2012 - 2:03 PM ET #37

    Screw the RDA...... I just ate half an ounce of green olives and some sharp NY Cheddar.

    I think the RDA's are all screwed up anyway.  That whole fat and carb thing couldn't have been anymore assbackwards.

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    Screw the RDA...... I just ate half an ounce of green olives and some sharp NY Cheddar.

    I think the RDA's are all screwed up anyway.  That whole fat and carb thing couldn't have been anymore assbackwards.

     
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    Posted: Feb. 8, 2012 - 2:05 PM ET #38

    You guys havn't lived until spread on some cheap sliced green olives on your sandwiches.  An olive spread would be better but if don't have that around, just some cheap sliced green olives work.

    Like they do in New Orleans with the muffallettas.

    Olive go in everything !!!

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    You guys havn't lived until spread on some cheap sliced green olives on your sandwiches.  An olive spread would be better but if don't have that around, just some cheap sliced green olives work.

    Like they do in New Orleans with the muffallettas.

    Olive go in everything !!!

     
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    Posted: Feb. 8, 2012 - 2:15 PM ET #39

    Okay, I'll do it..... will log sodium today......... Havn't eaten lunch yet tho.  So far

    1/2 cup Raw Oats = 0 sodium
    1 cup whole wheat Kashi Granola = 150 milligrams
    1 cup 2% milk = 100 milligrams
    3/4 cup Orange Juice = 0 milligrams
    1 ounce green olives = 650 milligrams
    1 ounce sharp white cheddar - 170 milligrams

    Subtotal= 1070 milligrams

    I eat like a freaking science project and already halfway in sodium and havn't gotten near lunch or dinner yet.

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    Okay, I'll do it..... will log sodium today......... Havn't eaten lunch yet tho.  So far

    1/2 cup Raw Oats = 0 sodium
    1 cup whole wheat Kashi Granola = 150 milligrams
    1 cup 2% milk = 100 milligrams
    3/4 cup Orange Juice = 0 milligrams
    1 ounce green olives = 650 milligrams
    1 ounce sharp white cheddar - 170 milligrams

    Subtotal= 1070 milligrams

    I eat like a freaking science project and already halfway in sodium and havn't gotten near lunch or dinner yet.

     
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    Posted: Feb. 8, 2012 - 3:24 PM ET #40

    Quote Originally Posted by sharpaction:

    The analysis of data is from more than 167 studies of people with normal or high blood pressure. These people were randomly assigned to eat either low- or high-sodium diets. The study found that consuming less than 2,800 milligrams of sodium a day helped lower blood pressure though the reductions were very small.  The reductions were only an average of 1% for people who had normal blood pressure to begin with and 3.5% for people with high blood pressure. For example, if your BP is 140/90 then reducing salt will only bring it down to 138/89 which is insignificant and meaningless.  Another issue with the lower sodium diet is that it increased triglycerides by 7%, which is a unhealthy blood fat and when elevated increases risk of heart disease,  when compared with the people who were eating more than 3450mg of sodium which is about what the average American eats in a day.   


    this would seem to outweigh any minor benefit from a slightly lower blood pressure.
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    The analysis of data is from more than 167 studies of people with normal or high blood pressure. These people were randomly assigned to eat either low- or high-sodium diets. The study found that consuming less than 2,800 milligrams of sodium a day helped lower blood pressure though the reductions were very small.  The reductions were only an average of 1% for people who had normal blood pressure to begin with and 3.5% for people with high blood pressure. For example, if your BP is 140/90 then reducing salt will only bring it down to 138/89 which is insignificant and meaningless.  Another issue with the lower sodium diet is that it increased triglycerides by 7%, which is a unhealthy blood fat and when elevated increases risk of heart disease,  when compared with the people who were eating more than 3450mg of sodium which is about what the average American eats in a day.   


    this would seem to outweigh any minor benefit from a slightly lower blood pressure.
     
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    Posted: Feb. 8, 2012 - 3:50 PM ET #43

    Quote Originally Posted by FriedShrimp:

    Bacon............ around 300 per slice.

    ONE SLICE OF BACON??????




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    If i were to avoid a salt, it would be table salt.

    but bath salts do wonders for ones metabolism
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    Bacon............ around 300 per slice.

    ONE SLICE OF BACON??????




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    If i were to avoid a salt, it would be table salt.

    but bath salts do wonders for ones metabolism
     
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    Posted: Feb. 8, 2012 - 4:08 PM ET #44

    Look into framingham heart study, a skeptic organization ill get the exact name of later, and lipoproteins. Lipoproteins are important, their density, specifically.

    From what I gather:
    High density (HDL) ((thumbs up))
    Low density (LDL) ((thumbs down))
    Oxidization of LDL attacked by macrophages ((thumbs down)0
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    Look into framingham heart study, a skeptic organization ill get the exact name of later, and lipoproteins. Lipoproteins are important, their density, specifically.

    From what I gather:
    High density (HDL) ((thumbs up))
    Low density (LDL) ((thumbs down))
    Oxidization of LDL attacked by macrophages ((thumbs down)0
     
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    Posted: Feb. 8, 2012 - 5:25 PM ET #45

    "Cholesterol Skeptics" if you google that itll give u info on the organization. All kind of interrelated.
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    "Cholesterol Skeptics" if you google that itll give u info on the organization. All kind of interrelated.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by squinta1:

    "Cholesterol Skeptics" if you google that itll give u info on the organization. All kind of interrelated.

    I think I found your study.....

    Link

    It's long and only read the first page........ been saying this for years...... just cuz you eat it doesn't get it into your bloodstream.  Very few things actually get into the bloodstream other than alcohol.

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by squinta1:

    "Cholesterol Skeptics" if you google that itll give u info on the organization. All kind of interrelated.

    I think I found your study.....

    Link

    It's long and only read the first page........ been saying this for years...... just cuz you eat it doesn't get it into your bloodstream.  Very few things actually get into the bloodstream other than alcohol.

     

     
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    If i were to avoid a salt, it would be table salt.

    but bath salts do wonders for ones metabolism

    Table salt is the least concern..... at least you can see and measure it..... and it directly affects the tongue so is the most efficient.

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    If i were to avoid a salt, it would be table salt.

    but bath salts do wonders for ones metabolism

    Table salt is the least concern..... at least you can see and measure it..... and it directly affects the tongue so is the most efficient.

     
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    Posted: Feb. 8, 2012 - 5:50 PM ET #48

    Ever go into the kitchen of a Mexican restaurant?

    They empty BOXES of salt into beans, rice, almost everything.

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    Ever go into the kitchen of a Mexican restaurant?

    They empty BOXES of salt into beans, rice, almost everything.

     
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    Not "sprinkling" some table salt..... "pouring" boxes of salt in.
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    If you slam your digestive system and organs with anything...... good shit won't happen.

    That's why need a "balanced" diet.

    Yo Sleazy!!!!....... your zero carb thing may burn fat but I guarantee it's not good for you.

    The body wasn't designed to lose or gain weight that quickly anyway.

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    If you slam your digestive system and organs with anything...... good shit won't happen.

    That's why need a "balanced" diet.

    Yo Sleazy!!!!....... your zero carb thing may burn fat but I guarantee it's not good for you.

    The body wasn't designed to lose or gain weight that quickly anyway.

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